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Richard Dawkins goes insane

He did go insane

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He did not

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He also claims that the Universe exists because of gravity. Which is rather funny, since gravity cannot exist without matter. So, what was the source of this gravity, when the universe, and matter, did not exist?

Science has its place. Origins theory is not one of them. Why?

It's simple. Science it the pursuit of knowledge, through observation and experimentation. As far as origins are concerned, there is nothing to observe, or be experimented upon. So, in effect, it's not really science. Is it?

Side: He did go insane
seanB(754) Disputed
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Spacetime curvature isn't dependent on matter. See the Riemann tensor.

Side: He did not
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That doesn't even qualify as a theory. There is no way to test it.

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Antrim(1297) Clarified
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No scientist, nor group of scientists have ever offered a clear and indisputable explanation for the birth/existence of the universe.

However, that is not to say that the explanations offered by the various man made religions are any more credible than such fanciful notions as the big bang theory which asks us to believe that something can, and indeed has, come from nothing.

Like religion, the big bang theory relies on people accepting what they are told with a child like blind faith.

My personal opinion is that no one, including the clever theologians and the brainy scientists, has the remotest idea from where the immense and ever expanding cosmos originated.

Side: He did go insane
Mr_Bombastic(132) Clarified
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My problem with Science is that it is too easily politicized. There are many cases where scientists, and university professors, have suffered professionally for questioning Uncle Darwin. That's not science. It's dogma, backed up by threats.

Side: He did go insane
sylynn(626) Disputed
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when the universe, and matter, did not exist?

Who says they didn't exist? We know that the universe - as we know it - came to be 13.8 billion years ago, but prior to this we simply don't know.

Side: He did not
Antrim(1297) Clarified
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In the absence of any other irrefutable rationalization it may be worth considering the highly unlikely possibility that the universe has existed forever and, in a somewhat different form will continue to exist for eternity.

The problem with propounding such a thesis is that we all, scientists, theologians, uncle Tom Cobbly and all, find it nigh impossible to perceive the concept of something with has existed forever, something without any beginning nor ending.

I feel if I dwelt too long trying to grasp and reason out that abstraction I would go mad.

I have my own theory about how, someday mankind will be able to discover the truth which will once and for all explain the existence of the universe.

Haven't the time to do so just now but I will soon and present it for your appraisal.

Side: He did go insane
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No one knows how the universe came into being. No one witnessed the event. All we can do is speculate. The math they used to figure out the big bang breaks down when they try to take it back to the actual event. I repeat. No one knows. It's nothing but a matter of faith...for BOTH sides.

Side: He did go insane
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While amusing, he was proving that we are related to apes.

Side: He did not
dadman(1691) Disputed
2 points

PROVING ?? .... omG !! PROVING ??? .... lol only to the degree we have a common environment ... Apes are not created in the image of God .... sorry :) God created each species after its own kind .... try having sex w/ an ape (not that you haven't already tried) and producing offspring .... ain't gonna happen ... sorry :(

Side: He did go insane
PhoenixHero(54) Disputed
2 points

Lol. You do realize that one of the first things you learn in science class is that science cant prove anything?

Side: He did go insane
dadman(1691) Disputed
0 points

Science proves a lot .. ie when a new Human life begins (in procreation) ....

Science just has no ability to prove the origin of life ...

because the origin of life was initiated from outside the parameter of time / space and matter

Side: He did not
dadman(1691) Disputed
2 points

he was proving that we are related to apes. .. PS, according to "evolution" (lol) we're related to EVERYTHING ...

Evolution was created because the thought of something higher than man was unbearable .. God forbid

Side: He did go insane
Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
2 points

No, that's why religion was created.

Side: He did not
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We are? Then why can't we create offspring with them? And why do we have completely different inner bodily systems?

Side: He did go insane
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Besides, we've seen Dawkins try to mate chimps and humans. It didn't work. I have video proof too.

https://youtu.be/0SwFrumDwCU

Side: He did go insane