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70
48
Rock music Hip-Hop
Debate Score:118
Arguments:56
Total Votes:141
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 Rock music (28)
 
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Rock or hip hop?

which is better?

Rock music

Side Score: 70
VS.

Hip-Hop

Side Score: 48
5 points

Is this a trick question? Hip Hop sucks so of course it's Rock & Grohl! Next question? :))

Side: Rock music
3 points

Lol Dave Grohl is awesome.

Side: Rock music
3 points

Yes, he is totally Foo-bulous and almost Nirvana to listen to! :))

Side: Rock music
2 points

This is one of my faves of theirs I like the best... But you knew that, didn't you? Because after all, you're me, LOL

The Grohl Can't Help It :)
Side: Rock music
mrmonotone Disputed
1 point

you arent supporting rock at all youre just saying hip hop sucks, its actually your argument that sucks as your point is that hip hop sucks, not backing it up with any evidence of any sort.

Side: Hip-Hop

Why is everyone down voting this guy and up voting RavenLily? He's just saying the truth. Her argument is just her relative, subjective and probably biased opinion, with no evidence to back it up other than her personal preference.

Side: Hip-Hop
I-Am-Qwerty(12) Disputed
1 point

I like hip-hop, you like rock, this is a stupid debate because it's just an opinion.

Side: Hip-Hop
4 points

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In my opinion rock is better

Raping poetry is cool, but I'd rather hear a shredder.

the excellent rifts feel like magic in my ears

orgasmic electric sounds bring me to tears.

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Most hip-hop seems to be a bad influence

gets in teens minds and they become truant.

They start doin drugs and alcohol. It messes with their mind

Some end up stuck in a gutter, dropped out and left behind.

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A lot of it-makes women sound like tools

Do you see what's it done? you ignorant fools.

Hearing how people speak to women, it makes me all bitter.

I want to punch them in a face, then leave their body in a shitter.

Some of it sounds good, but for the most part

It's ridiculing women and fucking with young american hearts.

Word.

Side: Rock music
4 points

Rock. Sounds better and requires more talent.

Side: Rock music
mrmonotone Disputed
1 point

you didnt even specify how, there are also plenty of hip hop instrumentals that sample rock and incorporate it into their music

Side: Hip-Hop
thousandin1(1931) Clarified
1 point

Again clarifying to avoid casting a vote when my intent is to dispute.

Sounds better is entirely subjective, really.

As far as talent goes- I don't believe that rock requires more talent, it simply requires different talents.

In hip hop, the main emphasis is on the lyrics- there is a large amount of talent necessary in this field, and it is essentially the anchor that the instrumentals need to accomodate.

In rock, the vocals are really just another instrument. They need to work well with the instrumentals, which need to compliment one another as well.

I believe that individual talent is more important in hip hop, but chemistry and synergy are more important in rock. In some ways individual talent can never be replaced, but at the same time no amount of talent can create chemistry where there is none.

Side: Rock music
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
2 points

Not only does Rock require different talents, but it also requires more. Rapping is a vocal talent, instruments aren't required. Rock on the other hand is a combination of different instruments and vocals. Playing guitar is a separate talent than playing drums. Hip hop requires one, maybe two different talents. Sure, hip hop has some background beats... but most of the time, all of those beats are from a computer... making that just one other talent.

Side: Rock music
3 points

Bealtes/Rolling stones.

Further towards rock. I detest hip/hop!!

Side: Rock music
2 points

duh

Side: Rock music

Hip Hop/Rap is just fast talking to a beat .

Side: Rock music
The Phantom(453) Disputed
1 point

Hip-hop can incorporate pretty much any methods used in poetry or other musical genres, such as: metre, rhyme, alliteration, assonance, puns, kennings and pretty much any type of other word play or literary techniques. The only difference between hip-hop and rock is presentation, and whichever you prefer is purely subjective, but Hip-hop is definitely more than talking fast to a beat.

Side: Hip-Hop
1 point

I like both but prefer Rock and Hip Hop and Rock have a long cross over history

Side: Rock music
1 point

Don't like hip hop, love rock and anything that relates to rock, can't beat a bit of breaking benjamin (unless we're talking about 30 seconds to mars since they cannot be beaten!)

Side: Rock music
1 point

atleast you understand something in rock hp hop is too fast to understand :)

Side: Rock music
The Phantom(453) Clarified
2 points

Not always. .

Side: Rock music
mithoo19(806) Clarified
1 point

it mostly is ...

Side: Rock music
1 point

Hard to choose i like both with one you can feel like a moody rock star (getting down with the sickness, slicing you wrists and bleeding, or calling you mom a fuing B.. all distured btw... well and Eminem). with the other you can wake up in bugattis, F bad B@es, ( even if its all in most of our heads) or have millions of dollars for talking. I LOVE MUSIC!!!

Side: Rock music

Rock is one of my favourite genres. So of course I am for Rock. Hip Hop is okay but not my type of music.

Side: Rock music
3 points

Hip hop requires more lyrical ability, rock requires more musical ability.

Side: Hip-Hop
thousandin1(1931) Clarified
1 point

I chose clarify to avoid casting a vote to either side, by my intent is to dispute this point, specifically.

There is rock music that demonstrates incredible mastery of lyric, and there is rock that is lackluster in the music department.

Similarly, there is hip hop that has lyrical flow that is questionable at best, as well as hip hop that has masterful instrumentals.

Still, I see the overall point, as there is certainly more of an emphasis on the lyrics in hip hop- but in practice, I don't believe your statement is correct.

Edit: Passed over some of my words as the Department of Redundancy Department indicated a problem.

Side: Rock music
1 point

I agree with you but only to a certain extent, it all depends on the artist, not the genre their music is classified as.

Side: Hip-Hop
2 points

i like both rock and hip hop but i love some good hip hop. of course this is all relative though. it takes skill to make a really good hip hop song that can withstand the test of time.

Side: Hip-Hop
2 points

hip hop requires more lyrical skills which is harder to learn that skills needed for rock, in rock you need to learn instruments but that can be taught easily, lyricism can be more complex and allows the artist to be more creative

Side: Hip-Hop
1 point

Really valid point you brought up, but really this whole debate just boils down to which genre you like more so it's kinda pointless.

Side: Hip-Hop
2 points

rock is just one genre that follows the same pattern over and over, while hip hop has different aspects to it, can incorporate different kinds of sounds such as soul, jazz, electro, EVEN ROCK and doesnt just follow a set template of how songs go, hip hop is for the elevated minds, keep your third eyes sharp mofos

Side: Hip-Hop
2 points

I'll admit, alot of todays Hip-hop is pretty crappy, but if you look hard enough there are still a few good rappers out there. Good Hip-hop takes alot of skill, especially freestyling. Since when has anyone heard of a rock artist instantly coming up with, pretty much a song, right on the spot?

Side: Hip-Hop
thousandin1(1931) Clarified
1 point

It's mainly because the mediums are different.

Some rock musicians have come up with lyrics out of nowhere, and struggled to find music to fit it.

In hip hop, the lyrics are more central, and the style of music makes it easier to set music to the lyrics after the fact.

With hip hop, the instrumentals are all there to support the lyrics; with rock, the instrumentals have a much greater need to work with each other as well as the vocals; the vocals in rock are really just another instrument rather than the overall focus.

Individual skill is more important in hip hop, I think, but chemistry and the ability to work well together is more important in rock.

Side: Rock music
1 point

I grew up on this music, I do love hard rock but most of rock is just a shambles. Same shit, guitar solos all the same crap over and over. Rap and hip-hop is an extremely varied genre with people rapping about pussy and ass to people rapping about their childhood to people rapping about revolutionary ideas (rap is just hip-hop with a lot of voice on it).

Watksy
Side: Hip-Hop
Hellno(17753) Disputed
3 points

I grew up on this music

Haha VB! You haven't grown up yet so... yeah... (But I didn't DV ya, just sayin')

Side: Rock music
Depressed(355) Disputed
1 point

Do you seriously consider that a valid dispute considering that it's actually incorrect?

Side: Hip-Hop
1 point

I agree with you completely, Watsky is a very talented artist and even though this isn't my fav song by him it does show his capability to tell a great story through his music which many rap artists struggle to accomplish.

Side: Hip-Hop