Stating that Michael J. Fox exaggerates his Parkinson's tremors, the perpetuation of the notion that anyone who's not on his side is socialist, the idea that he could derail Pres. Obama's campaign by asking his brainwashed minions to vote for Hillary, "Feminism was established as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.", that torture is somehow comparable to fraternity pranks, the insinuation that race was a factor in Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama for President....The idea, even for a second, that the term "Halfrican American" is in any way appropriate, or, much less, funny....

Off the top of my head.

Big deal

Yep. Grades in school aren't indicative of intelligence, mostly. More the ability to memorize and recite. We all know idiots with straight A's. At least I do.

Einstein didn't do very well in school either.

Not true. That misconception was probably spread by parents and teachers who wanted to spare the egos of their low-achieving kids.

He sure seems to be doing well for himself.

So does Madonna, but that doesn't make her any smarter than anyone else.

we logically see what the best "way" would be. that's actually how our minds work... by seeing what is most logical.

as i've pointed out already, law doesn't equate justice all the time. so following the law isn't always logical (if the law was to jump off your house, that certainly wouldn't be logical).

Justice is not easily definable. It can technically be logic itself. what works out the best for society. sometimes compassion can be used, but it can not be a SUBSTITUTE for justice. "feeling bad" doesn't excuse that justice must be served. Hitler was poor and lonely most of his young adult life. should we feel bad for him and decide that he shouldn't be executed (if we had had the chance) for his crimes? a compassionate person would often say so. compassion is derived from emotion. Justice is derived from logic.

really, when i see how people don't understand this, it makes me feel more and more for Plato's Republic.

Hm, you may be on to something.

I'm just working through this in my mind so let's see:

Well, if logic is the most beneficial choice to someone, whether an individual, or everyone, or a small group.

It would make sense that any group or individual would want to ensure that the people within their group adhere to the same social and legal rules as everyone else.

Since it's been shown pretty conclusively through our history, that we function best as a society, that being social is beneficial and therefore logical, then it would make sense, be logical, that we would have some device to ensure we can maintain the rules of society to allow its continuation.

Are the rules we have always good? Nope. Are they always right? Certainly not.

But it's more logical to have rules than to not have rules.

And the device we use to ensure that everyone follows these rules, we call "justice"

so, yeah, I think that justice is an issue of logic for any beings that have a society.

Justice would not be an issue of logic for anything that did not rely on a society for its betterment. In fact, it would be illogical for an individual with no rules to seek or want justice.

Good point though, I had never thought of it. I'll need to think about it some more.

which is exactly why I said that it depends on the situation jake. In that situation, it's dumb for the state to spend tens of thousands of dollars prosecuting an old lady who is only using a drug to ease her pain.

And while I realize this takes varying levels of complex thought, and I'm not altogether sure Rush has the wherewithal to manage it,

I'm pretty sure you are perfectly capable of seeing why, as I said, a society cannot base policies on ten second sound bites,

no matter how good they sound.

are just about all of you potheads? watsup with that?

dont try to limit my characters because you dont want any stupid jokes! just for that, I'm saying this:

knock knock.

whose there?

orange.

orange who?

orange you glad you opened the door?

ahahhahahahhahahha......

seriously, what if the joke was longer than 50 characters? what would you do then? please dont ban me. i was just joking.

"yes, people will go to jail for smoking pot. but that is not justice"

How is that not justice, because you disagree?(selfish)

"it would be almost impossible to legalize something if no one was breaking a certain ban on that substance."

1. Sure it is, but will probably never happen, as long as we have selfish people who disrespect the law.

2. That's why we have law enforcement.

"if you lived under Stalin, would you no longer practice your belief in Jesus Christ just because it was the law?"

No, because I don't respect Stalin. I respect the United States of America. Do you think that I obey the law because its there? That I'm just going with the flow obeying the rules no matter what?

I would never respect a government that didn't give me freedom.