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Russia collusion story was written in 2007

Report: Russia 'Dossier' Based on 10-Year-Old Wall Street Journal Articles


the history of the “Steele dossier” doesn’t begin with Christopher Steele or Nellie Ohr in the summer of 2016; it begins with a story that Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby co-wrote for The Wall Street Journal dated April 17, 2007. “How Lobbyists Help Ex-Soviets Woo Washington” details how prominent Republicans, including the 1996 Republican presidential candidate Robert Dole could collude with Russians...

It uses the exact same names, the exact same bank, and the exact same story...

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Russia collusion story was written in 2007

Hello bront:

So, what's your point?? That because Russians have been meddling in our elections for over 10 years, we should let 'em continue???

DUDE!

excon

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Bronto(451) Disputed
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The point is, it's the exact same story, except Bob Dole was small potatoes to them, so they recycled it 10 years later to the T, and replaced Dole with Trump, thinking Clinton would win, and it would never surface or matter.

Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele worked for the exact man who wrote the exact same story a decade earlier, Glenn Simpson.

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Let's begin with research on the researcher. Simpson is an investigative journalist turned — something. In 2009, he left the Wall Street Journal and, after one entrepreneurial false start, hung out a shingle for Fusion GPS. According to Simpson, its stock in trade is "business intelligence."

A close reading of Glenn Simpson's Trump-Russia testimony

By VIRGINIA HEFFERNAN

JAN 14, 2018 | 4:00 AM

A close reading of Glenn Simpson's Trump-Russia testimony

Former Wall Street Journal journalist and co-founder of the research firm Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson arrives to testify before a closed House Intelligence Committee hearing on Capitol Hill on Nov. 14. (Pablo Martinez Monsivais / Associated Press)

Glenn Simpson's testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, released this week, is a tale of two research projects. One is about the financier turned criminal-justice crusader William F. Browder. The other is about the American president, Donald J. Trump. Taken together, they shed light on some of the darkest corners of l'Affaire Russe. But what Simpson's testimony most starkly reveals are the hazards that journalists and politicians alike encounter when they stop working for the public — and start working for clients with tendentious personal agendas.

Let's begin with research on the researcher. Simpson is an investigative journalist turned — something. In 2009, he left the Wall Street Journal and, after one entrepreneurial false start, hung out a shingle for Fusion GPS. According to Simpson, its stock in trade is "business intelligence."

Simpson insists he's still an investigative reporter, in quest of nothing but the facts. At Fusion GPS, however, he works for corporations, individual billionaires and governments — figures who, unlike newspapers, pay real money. For the first time, there is one entity Simpson is not working for: readers.

In his testimony, Simpson comes off as a mercenary for hire by anyone with fat stacks of bitcoin.

-LA Times

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-heffernan-simpson-russia-testimony-20180114-story.html?outputType=amp

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Hello again, bront:

Look.. I've heard every single iteration of "it's a witch hunt" that you guys put out.. NONE of them have born fruit.. This crap will fall by the wayside too..

Nahhh.. It's NOT cause I know about this story.. It's cause I'm thinking Mueller has better things to do than to perpetrate a hoax..

excon

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Bronto(451) Disputed
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So, let's simplify.

1)The exact story about Trump was written years ealier by Glenn Simpson

2)Glenn Simpson is a political hitman for hire to do opposition research who gets paid for info on opponents.

3)Glenn Simpson was the overseer of the fake Trump dossier, and was hired by the Clinton team

4)The fake dossier was the given reason for the Trump investigation.

5)The fake dossier parrots to the T, info from a story decades old.

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excon(8005) Disputed
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So, let's simplify.

Hello bront:

Let's!

You think Mueller is a dunce.. I don't.

excon

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