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SHOULD ISLAM BE BLAMED FOR THE ALL TERRORIST ATTACKS?
For any terror attack a muslim is blamed whether it is in The India OR it is the USA. Is this not raging fires in muslims. Souldn they be blamed for every attack. Is it not against the HUMANITY? I Think they shouldn't be blamed but always the proof is against them and I Believe in PROOFS. So whats your argument ................
Here's what's happening: There is a struggle within Islam between fundamentalists and moderates. The entire religion is split by those who want to live in the modern world (Where human rights exist) and the ancient world where they do not. The moderate Muslims, actually fear the actions of the fundamentalists, as would any civilized individual.
I choose the word fundamentalists to refer to Islamic terrorists. This is because they cling to the beliefs of an ancient world, where much more primitive social norms were accepted. Christianity made this shift over two thousand years ago. Had this not happened, Christians would still be stoning sinners in their streets. Until Islam is able to fully enter the modern world, we will all suffer at the hands of these misguided believers in a way of life that no longer fits in the modern world.
Our part in this struggle, is to align with and strengthen the moderate Muslim world in it's struggle to banish the fundamentalist fanatics.
Which translates to terrorism. Terrorism is essentially a subcategory of treason. Committing an act of terrorism within your own country would be seen as treason, which is why Mandela was wrongly imprisoned of treason.
HE was not terrorizing the whites he was just doing A PEACE MARCH like Gandhiji did in India. Terrorist act is somewhat like using live weapons like guns, bombs, grenades, etc. He was using weapon of NON VIOLENCE not the one the ISIS uses or any ISLAMIC TERRORISTS use.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I most certainly don't believe that he was committing terrorism. However, the government considered him a terrorist, that's what we're trying to say.
The religion can itself be blamed if that were isolated with it, but that also means extending the blame to all those Muslims who aren't terrorists.
We can blame Christianity for crusades, Hinduism for the rigid caste system, Sikhism for the terrorism (a few decades ago) and similarly other religions.
If you really want to blame a religion, then make it stronger.
Unless you're part of the group that hates Muslims already. Anything will work then.
You can blame the Christians for the Crusades? They were fighting for their right to exist. The Islamic empire was taking over that entire part of the world by force and conquest.
A person cannot blame all Muslims for Islamic extremism but at the same time claim that not all Christians are responsible for the acts of radical Christians.
Yes, Islamic terrorists follow Islam. Of course they do. Just like Christian terrorists follow Christianity.
However, that does not mean all followers of Islam are terrorists or that all followers of Christianity are terrorists. Are you starting to understand?
According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.
And...
Of the more than 300 American deaths from political violence and mass shootings since 9/11, only 33 have come at the hands of Muslim-Americans, according to the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security. The Muslim-American suspects or perpetrators in these or other attempted attacks fit no demographic profile—only 51 of more than 200 are of Arabic ethnicity. In 2012, all but one of the nine Muslim-American terrorism plots uncovered were halted in early stages. That one, an attempted bombing of a Social Security office in Arizona, caused no casualties.
You're delusional to say that ALL terrorist attacks in the last 16 years have been caused by Muslims. It's simply not true.
The only delusional one here is you ! If all your facts are true and you believe those facts then you must have missed alot ! Pulse Nightclub blows you whole manufactured theory out of the water !
So you're saying that the Pulse Nightclub terrorist attack proves that all Muslims are responsible for all terrorist attacks, regardless of whether or not a Muslim actually commits them?
I believe he's pointing out the ridiculousness of condemning all Muslims for the minimal deaths caused by Islamic extremism, but when yet another mass shooting/school shooting/public shooting happens you do not blame it on the fact that you allow any old idiot to carry automatic rifles around, you say it was a "lone wolf".
Using numbers from the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, from 2001 to 2013, 406,496 people died by firearms on U.S. soil.
According to the U.S. State Department, from 2001 to 2013 there were 3,030 people killed in domestic acts of terrorism.
I'm not disputing that what happened at the Pulse Nightclub is a tragedy. However, it is a fact that more people die from gun crime than from terrorism in the US. I used the phrase "minimal" because compared to overall gun crime, it IS minimal.
Stop bringing up the Pulse Nightclub tragedy as if it proves that all Muslims are terrorists. It doesn't. It just proves that a terrorist killed 50 people, and he happened to be Muslim.
Let's go back to what you stated are you ready ? "Of the more than 300 American deaths from political violence and mass shootings since 9/11, only 33 have come at the hands of Muslim-Americans."
Tell me how many innocent Americans died at the hand of a Muslim-American at the Pulse Nightclub in Florida
But why do I need to address it ? It was a horrendous act of barbarity what do you want me to do ?
What baffles me about you and others like you is ,when yet another barbaric act of violence is carried out by some nut job in the US people like you beat your chest and cry crocodile tears and yet hours later all sing the same tired bullshit from the same hymn sheet ... " guns don't kill people , people kill people "
It's an appalling double standard don't you think ?
Yes Isis is a radical Islam movement that fell like terrorism is the way to go but the Muslim holy book codems violence, the only reason this argument exists is because the religion of Christianity tries to cover up all their past terrorism related incidences. If you think about it the last 10 years there have been more non Muslim terrorist attacks. There are more individuals that are not representatives of the religion that they say they stand for. This argument pisses me off.
Thoughts like this are why immigrant Americans are so commonly discriminated against. People who love america. Muslims are just people. Americans are just people. Shouldn't people get along with people? People = people after-all.
yes, in theory. The problem is that Muslims are commanded to not coexist with non-Muslims in the Quran. Islamic terrorists in mass aren't just some strange manifestation of bad luck. No, they are doing exactly what Muhammad commanded them to do, thus people are beheaded, set on fire, drowned in cages, etc, and Muslims are cutting themselves and their children with swords, and women are caged in burkas like animals. Nevermind the cutting off hands, fingers, and stonings for "being and adulterer"...
Well, I'd like to remind us all that there are non-extremist, normal families living in America who are afraid of the backlash against the Muslim community. There is modern Islam and fundamentalist Islam; while Islam isn't my favorite, it is their 1st amendment right to practice any religion, and I support them. I do not like fundamental Islam, which can easily become radical due to the social requirement to swear by the fundamentalist way. Kind of like how extremely religious parents will force said religion onto the children. Very easy to be corrupted and lose the human element of other beings in the world.
I believe this fundamental Islam practice needs to die out in order to forge future relationships in Islamic countries. It also doesn't help when ISIS, Al Queda, etc. come up and deface the Muslim community here in the US.
No. We should put the blame on the terrorists. There are more peaceful Muslims than there are terrorists and blaming all Muslims for the actions of extremists is incredibly lazy and ignorant. There are very few religions that haven't had issues with extremist factions bringing terror and death to others.
Islam is not to blame for terrorist attacks, radicalism is. Any of the Christian, Jewish or Islamic religions can be twisted radically, (and HAVE been many times). Today all three are being twisted to different levels. Radicalism of any religion usually gets deadly. The quote: "Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions." (Blaise Pascal), has been true for centuries. You can't blame just one religion, they seem to take turns. Sure, Islam has a LOT of unacceptable "laws" that would be illegal in America. Christianity has "modernized" somewhat ....IT could not exist in America if it hadn't, Islam has too ... in America, the rest of the Islamic world must catch up to be accepted here. The terrorists take the worst of the ancient "teachings", the lines of "control" and use them (twist them) to their best advantage. That's what ALL radicals do. You can't blame all Christians for the death that some have caused, you can't blame all Muslims for the death that some have caused.
Obama accepts this, he doesn't blame ALL Muslims for the actions of radicals. He gave about a hundred of them a "piece of his mind" this week! If King Donald keeps us as safe as Obama has, I will thank him.
please can you give me examples with the proof on this statement. Is there any proof that any Hindu, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, etc. are in terrorist groups.
I believe there is also the saffron terrorists (Hindu terrorism).
The only reason we only hear about Muslim terrorists is because they attacked on our ground. I will remind you that these Muslim terrorists kill a LOT MORE Muslims than non-Muslims.
It's a false equivalency. It's like going to Africa and saying "there are white people in Africa". Sure, it's technically true, but most Africans are black. Point? For every Christian or Atheist that does something violent there are swarms of Islamic attacks. There were 452 suicide attacks in 2015. Guess how many were Islamic.
I say: "Maybe they are but when I meet a white person it is stupid of me to assume that he is not African."
All I am saying is that, you can't say ALL terrorists are Muslim. That is an incorrect statement that I proved with a counterexample. You can't even say most terrorists are Muslims.
Being Muslim and being a terrorist has NO theoretical or empirical connection whatsoever. NO EQUIVALENCE and NO IMPLICATION. I promise to admit I am wrong if you can show me either an implication or equivalence.
To assume that when you meet a Muslim that he is a terrorist or meet a terrorist and think he is Muslim is a judgement based on insufficient information.
what is terrorist?terrorist can defined as a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
Terrorism does not equal to Islam.Every religion including Islam is a religion of peace . We should not stereotype Islam just because idiotic act of ISIS.
Terrorism can be committed in various form and by various group . It does not necessary attached only to Islam.
Islam is reason for terrorist attacks across the world but Progressives are blind to that reality. Truth and Reality is not a world the Progressives can exist in.
They should be blamed why not. I do have reasons also: 1) All leaders of terrorists group are Muslims, isn't it then give examples. 2) When in Paris the journalists wrote a controversial joke on ISLAM AS TERRORIST the all ISLAMIC REPUBLIC COUNTRIES came to know about it after the TERRORIST group attacked and kill many terrorists so aren't the terrorists by doing this act for ISLAM giving us clue for their being of ISLAMIC. 3) PAKISTAN a Islam following country is the LEADING PRODUCER of the terrorists or the Jihadis and they call themselves JIHADIS which is related to the Muslims only.
Any religion which can spawn such vile murderous scumbags must be fundamentally evil.
In modern times followers of Islam have been responsible for the most atrocious crimes in the history of mankind and have found justification for their acts of inhuman barbarity in the teachings of the Koran.
Where are the Muslim peace marches?
Where are the open condemnations of the Islamic terrorists by Muslim Church leaders?
There are two great evils in the world today, terrorism and cockeyed religion. Islam represents both of these, and indeed they're both one of the same.
The sanctimonious 'do-gooders'' are as much a threat to all the civilizations of the world as the Muslim terrorists themselves.
They're everywhere. There's one example. But even if there wasn't, it is not the responsibility of Muslim citizens worldwide to specific that they don't support mass genocide. Do you really have such little respect for your fellow human beings you don't think they understand that terrorism is bad?
I don't even know why I engage with shitheads like you, it's only a waste of my time, but know this.
The I.R.A, represented a tiny percentage of the nationalist/republican community in Northern Ireland, yet with all they caused carnage and destruction on an industrial scale.
During this 30 year period of human slaughter and the systemic destruction of the province's commercial life we had mass peace rallies led by brave people like Maraid Corrigan and Betty Williams.
These numerous demonstrations by the two aforementioned ''peace people'' along with the 10s of 1000s of protesters had to ''run the gauntlet'' after every peace rally and return to their homes which were in the heartland of the I.R.A, terrorists.
The current state of relative peace in Northern Ireland can be attributed in no small way to the brave actions of the demonstrators and their two courageous leaders.
The onus is on the Muslim communities of all the nations which they have adopted as home to illustrate to those who are committing these ongoing terrorist atrocities and to the world that they are against the terrorists and their inhuman barbarity is not being carried out in their name.
Throughout Europe the opposite is happening.
The Muslim communities are giving succor to the Islamic terrorists, ( as the French authorities discovered after three major incidents when 100s were murdered) and ''appropriating'' large tracts of European towns and cities where they have established their own barbaric Sharia law including the genital mutilation of young girls.
Apart from one or two pitiful token comments from an imam or two there are no protests from the Muslims against those who are killing and destroying the communities in which they live.
It's sanctimonious filth such as you who, through their shortsighted liberalism are assisting the terrorists in their 'war on the west' and prolonging their eventual defeat.
By the way you scum sucking pig, your own countrymen and women through an organization called 'Noraid' supported the I.R.A, and raised millions of dollars for their campaign of murder and destruction against the legitimate forces of law and order and the long suffering people of the Province of Ulster.
Senior American politicians such as Tip O'Neill and Senator Edward kennedy gave their verbal backing to the Irish terrorists.
Islam the religion followed in any countries has terrorist in it (here terrorist means who disrupts the world peace). Man have given proofs and we do have ISIS in SYRIA AND IRAQ, AL- QAEDA in PAKISTAN, TEHRIK - E- TALIBAN in PAKISTAN, LASHKAR - E - TAIBA in PAKISTAN, AL - SHAABAB in SOMALIA, HEZBOLLAH in LEABANON, BOKO HARAM in WEST AFRICA, TALIBAN in AFGHANISTAN. These all groups have Islamic leaders. They are:
ISIS- ABU BAKR AL-BAGDAD
AL-QAEDA- AYMAN AL-ZAWAHIRI
TEHRIK E TALIBAN- MULLAH FAZULLAH (MAYBE killed in airstrike says many news reports)
LASHKAR E TAIBA - HAFIZ SAEED
AL SHAABAB- AHMED ABDI GODANE
HEZBOLLAH - HASSAN NASHRALLAH
BOKO HARAM- ABUBAKAR SHEKAU
TALIBAN- MAWLAWI HAIBATULLAH AKHUNDZADA
so you can see that all main terrorist groups do have thier leaders as MUSLIMS.
Many Muslims are peaceful but the ones that are purists try to kill all people that are not muslims. Osama Bin Laden was Islamic and look what he did. He tried to destroy America and kill the president. I know that most of them have changed and are peaceful, but the purists groups like ISIS are still out there.
Do you think Christians, atheists, Greeks, and other religions attack and bomb everybody? Some countries do that because they are trying to defend themselves. Islam does it so they can kill off people.
