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SUPERBOWL 50

Who's going to win? What's going to be the best matchup? What is the most one-sided matchup?

Who's going to be league MVP? Who's going to be superbowl MVP? Will Peyton manning retire? Shoot opinions at me and I'll dispute them!
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Who's going to win? The New England Patriots

What's going to be the best matchup? Cardinals vs. Patriots

What is the most one-sided matchup? Panthers vs. Broncos

Who's going to be league MVP? Tom Brady (or Cam Newton if Roger Goodell if he has his way)

Who's going to be superbowl MVP? Tom Brady or Gronk if he does bad.

Will Peyton manning retire? Yes he is old and bad.

SlapShot(2607) Clarified
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Who's going to win??

Arizona 33....New England 20

Super Bowl MVP?

Larry Fitzgerald

League MVP?

Cam Newton

Will Manning retire?

Eventually, yes, but not now. He will play for one more season after this.

He is neither old nor bad. He is still in the Top Five to seven QBs in the NFL. When he's healthy, of course. BTW, that list looks like this...--in no particular order----.Aaron Rodgers; Carson Palmer; Cam Newton; Kirk Cousins; Tony Romo (when healthy); Peyton Manning; and the very underrated Ryan Fitzpatrick of the Jets. (Yeah, you heard me right: put him on any of the playoff teams and see what he would do. See what he would do with Brady or Palmer or Cam's Offensive line. He would throw for over 4000 yards and 30 TDs, that's what! LOL)

Next years's biggest Bounce Back Teams....The Cowboys, who might win it all if Romo stays healthy. And the Lions, who will go to the NFL finals. The Raiders will be the AFC Surprise, going 11-5 and making it to the AFC finals.

Remember where ya heard all this!

LOL

shaash(435) Disputed
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See what he would do with Brady or Palmer or Cam's Offensive line

Brady is the best quarterback in the league. There can not be a dispute. His offensive line sucks. He doesn't throw picks. He is a good leader. He expects greatness from himself and all around him, elevating the play of his teammates. He isn't afraid of taking hits. He doesn't take stupid risks.

And the stats show it all.

You can't argue that the fact that he had good teammates made him good. You could say Belichick made him good. But he has been consistently number one, even when he had horrible receivers.

Everyone else you named is pretty good, but some of them are just slingers and often get lucky:

-Tony Romo

-Aaron Rodgers

-Ryan Fitzpatrick

Others have recently had better stats due to having good receivers:

-Carson Palmer

-Ryan Fitzpatrick

-Kirk Cousins

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I respect Peyton Manning, but he just isn't good anymore. He is the best mentally (arguably behind brady), but physically he is too weak and old. He threw 17 interceptions. They weren't ill advised passes like almost everyone you named throws. He just didn't release them with the correct power.

Find me a stat that shows he is currently better than Blake Bortles, Tom Brady, or even his brother right now.

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Cynical(1946) Disputed
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He is neither old nor bad. He is still in the Top Five QBs in the NFL. When he's healthy, of course.

Did you and I watch the same season? He's old, long past his prime. He's just lost his touch. I wouldn't expect him to play for another season; he's smart enough to know that would hurt the team.

Top 5 QBs, IMO, are:

1) Tom Brady

2) Cam Newton

3) Big Ben (incredibly underrated, too)

4) Carson Palmer

5) Andy Dalton

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You hit basically everything on the head, perfectly.

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Listen to me. IT WILL be Patriots vs Panthers (90%) or Broncos vs Panthers. IF the Patriots make it I put my money on them winning the whole thing. ask me how I know ;)

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I wouldn't underestimate the cardinals, the panthers didn't do so good last game. Except if it was rigged to be that close.

Anyways, do tell how you know the Patriots will win ;)

JalenSmith(183) Disputed
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I don't care how this sounds do you but sports, the NFL at least are rigged for the most part. I know a guy who's been calling games for years now. IK this probably sounds silly and unreal and honestly I don't care if you dont believe me, we will just have to see if his predictions come true. His website: http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/ He also has a 4 part video series(Would be one big one but youtube restricted his time limit) here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr6rRSjxpuMzTq5IaL12PAg his most recent videos IF you watch enough you'll see these are no coincidences. if you dont know what gematria is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria if you think its a bunch of BS thats ok we'll let his work prove itself.

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You Leftist support a contact sport ? What would you say if the Redskins were in the Bowl of Super ?

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In think you might fail a Turing test.

FuckleBery(20) Disputed
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The redskins don't deserve to be in the NFL, yet alone the super so your argument is something the world will never have to worry about

Panthers V Cardinals. Panthers win 34-14 .

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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I will bet you any amount of money that the Panthers will not beat the Cardinals in the Superbowl.

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Peyton Manning is one of the best QB's of all time. He holds ten times more records than Tom Brady. Peyton Manning only threw 17 interceptions because he was recovering from several previous injuries.The Broncos also have a much better defense than the Patriots. Not to mention that the Broncos BEAT the Patriots the last time they played. While Patriots fans may argue this was because of the absence of Edelman, the Broncos were missing Peyton Manning and many players on the defense including but not exclusive to Chris Harris Jr. and Von Miller. It is for these reasons that I believe the Broncos will at least make it to the Super Bowl.

shaash(435) Disputed
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We were missing EVERYONE, not just edelman. We only had brady to lead us on offense; that too without an o-line.

Peyton Manning's injury was because of his age and his inability to play through injury.

It is true, Manning is one of the GOATs. But TB12 is THE GOAT.

And Peyton Manning is done. He's old and tired and broken. Osweiler is currently better than him physically, he just needs to learn how to read a defense.

the pats offense and especially O-line and recievers are completely rejuvenated and ready to beat the Broncos

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PEYTON MANNING:

5x NFL MVP (2003 (shared with Steve McNair), 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)[259]

2x NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2004, 2013)[259]

Best NFL Player ESPY Award(2004,[34] 2005[260])

14× Pro Bowl (1999–2000, 2002–2010, 2012–2014)[45]

7× First-team All-Pro (2003–2005, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013)[84][101][108]

3× Second-team All-Pro (1999, 2000, 2006)[57][65][121]

2× Bert Bell Award (2003, 2004)[261]

8× AFC Offensive Player of the Year Awards (1999, 2003–2005, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013)

1998 NFL All-Rookie First Team[45]

2004 Fedex Express Player of the Year[262]

Best Record-Breaking Performance ESPY Award(2005,[260] 2014)[263]

2005 Walter Payton Man of the Year Award[261]

2005 Byron "Whizzer" White Humanitarian Award[45]

2005 Pro Bowl MVP[83]

2007 Super Bowl MVP[118]

2007 Best Championship Performance ESPY Award[120]

2012 NFL Comeback Player of the Year

27× AFC Offensive Player Of The Week[264]

Super Bowl champion (XLI)

Super Bowl MVP (XLI)

14× Pro Bowl (1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014)

7× First-team All-Pro (2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013)

3× Second-team All-Pro (1999, 2000, 2006)

5× AP NFL MVP (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)

2× AP NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2004, 2013)

AP NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2012)

4× NFL passing touchdown leader (2000, 2004, 2006, 2013)

3x NFL passing yards leader (2000, 2003, 2013)

Pro Bowl MVP (2005)

Indianapolis Colts all-time leader (career wins, passing touchdowns, pass attempts, pass completions, passing yards)

NFL all-time leader in career touchdown passes and passing yards

NFL 2000s All-Decade Team

Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (2013)

Regular season

Most career touchdown passes: 539

Most career wins as starting quarter back: 186 (shared with Brett Favre)

Most touchdown passes, season: 55 (2013)

Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 14 (1999–2004, 2006–2010, 2012–2014)[267]

Most passing yards, season: 5,477 (2013)

Most games with 40+ pass attempts in a season: 10 (2010)[268]

Most consecutive seasons with at least 20 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010)[45]

Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010)[267]

Most games with a perfect passer rating, career: 4 (includes 1 playoff game)[98]

Most consecutive games started to open a career: 208[45][269]

Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)[270]

Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes: 5 (games 7–11, 2004)[271]

Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, season: 8 (2013)[271]

Most regular season games with at least 4 touchdown passes, career: 25[272][273]

Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes, career: 8 (includes 1 playoff game)[274]

Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 5

Only QB with at least 6 touchdown passes in three games[275]

Only QB with at least 6 touchdown passes and no interceptions in three games

One of only eight QBs with at least 7 touchdown passes, game (tied with Sid Luckman, Adrian Burk, George Blanda, Y.A. Tittle, Joe Kapp, Nick Foles and Drew Brees)

One of only three QBs with at least 7 touchdown passes and no interceptions, game (tied with Y.A. Tittle and Nick Foles)

Most regular season games with at least 300 passing yards: 84

Most regular and postseason games with at least 300 passing yards: 93

Most games with at least 400 yards passing: 17

Most games with at least 400 yards passing and no interceptions: 6

Most career touchdown passes in Thursday games: 32[276]

Most touchdown passes on a Thursday game: 7

Largest career TD-INT differential: 272

Highest career passing TDs/game average (min. 150 TD passes): 2.046 TDs/game[45]

Second-Highest career passing yards/game average: 263.6 (Drew Brees, 263.7)

Second-Highest career completions/game average (min. 100 games played): 22.5 (Drew Brees, 23.4)

Highest completion percentage by a QB in one month in NFL history (min. 75 attempts): 81.8% (December 2008)[45]

Most career games with a completion percentage of 70% or higher (min. 10 attempts): 66[277]

Most consecutive regular season wins as a starter: 23 (2008–2009)

Most seasons with 10+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 14 (1999–2000, 2002–2010, 2012–2014)

Most seasons with 12+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 11 (1999, 2003–2009, 2012-2014)

Only QB with seven straight seasons of 12+ wins as a starter(2003–2009)[278]

Only QB with nine straight seasons of 10+ wins as a starter (2002–2010)[45]

Only QB to lead five consecutive 4th quarter comeback wins (games 7–11, 2009)[279]

Most fourth quarter comeback wins in one season: 7 (2009)[280]

First QB to defeat the other 31 teams in the regular season (Tom Brady did this later the same day, and Brett Favre did it the following week)[281]

Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular season only: 115 (2000s)[282]

Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular & postseason: 124 (2000s)

Most AP NFL MVP Awards: 5 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)

Most Touchdown Passes in a decade: 314 (2000–2009)

Most Passing Yards in a decade: 42,254 (2000–2009)

Most Completions in a decade: 3,575 (2000–2009)

Playoff records

Most 300+ yard passing games: 8[283]

Most yards passing, 1st half of game: 360 vs. Denver Broncos, 1/9/05[284]

Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (18 pts), 1/21/07 vs. New England[285]

One of only four QBs to post a perfect 158.3 passer rating in a game (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)[286]

Most games with 20+ completions: 14[287] (surpassed by Tom Brady in 2011)

Most games with 30+ completions: 4[288] (surpassed by Drew Brees in 2011)

Most games with 30+ attempts: 17[289]

Most games with 40+ attempts: 8[290] (tied by Tom Brady in 2011)

Most completions and attempts in a single postseason: 97/153 (2006)[291]

One of only 2 quarterbacks to complete 80% of his passes in two playoff games (tied with Kurt Warner)[292]

Most consecutive postseasons with at least one start: 9 (2002–2010)

Most postseason losses by a quarterback: 13

Most first-round postseason losses by a quarterback: 9

Rookie records

Most touchdown passes: 26[271] (tied by Russell Wilson in 2012)

Most interceptions thrown: 28

Most consecutive games with a touchdown pass (games 4–16): 13[293]

Most games with at least one touchdown pass: 15[45]

Most games with 300+ yards passing: 4[45]

With Marvin Harrison

Manning and former Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison hold a number of QB-WR tandem records:

Most completions/receptions (career): 953[294]

Most passing/receiving yards (career): 12,756[294]

Most passing/receiving touchdowns (career): 112[45][294]

Most completions/receptions in a season, QB-to-WR duo: 143 (2002)

Pro Bowl records

Most Pro Bowl selections (tied with Tony Gonzalez, Bruce Matthews, and Merlin Olsen): 14

Most Pro Bowl selections for a QB: 14

Most consecutive Pro Bowl selections for a QB: 9 (during the 2002–2010 seasons)

Most passing attempts (career): 150[109]

Most passing attempts (game): 41 (2004)[295]

Most completions (career): 92[109]

Most completions (game): 22 (2004)[295]

Most passing yards (career): 1,278[109]

Most passing yards (game): 342 (2004)[295]

Most passing touchdowns (career): 13[109]

Colts franchise records

Most passing attempts (career): 7,210[44]

Most passing attempts (season): 679 (2010)[44]

Most 40+ passing attempt games (career): 56[44]

Most completions (career): 4,682[44]

Most completions (season): 450 (2010)[44]

Most completions (game): 40 (09/12/10 at Houston)[44]

Most consecutive completions: 23 (12/14/08-12/18/08 vs. Detroit/Jacksonville)[45]

Most games with 20+ completions (career): 140[44]

Most consecutive games with 20+ completions: 14 (games 1–14, 2010)[44]

Most games with 30+ completions (career): 23[296]

Highest completion percentage (career): 64.9%[44]

Highest completion percentage (season): 68.8% (2009)[44]

Highest completion percentage (rookie season): 56.7%[44]

Highest completion percentage (game): 87.5% (14/16 for 95 yards, 12/30/07 vs. Tennessee)[45]

Most passing yards (career): 54,828[297]

Most passing yards (game): 472 (10/31/04 vs. Kansas City)[44]

Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 63[44]

Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards : 11 (1999–2004, 2006–2010)[267]

Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards (1999–2004): 6[2]

Most touchdown passes (career): 399[298]

Most touchdown passes (season): 49 (2004)[44]

Most touchdown passes (rookie season): 26[44]

Most touchdown passes (game): 6 (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans and 11/25/04 vs. Detroit)[44]

Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (career): 22[299]

Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (season, 2004): 6[271]

Most games with at least 3 touchdown passes (career): 64[44]

Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (season): 15 (5 times)[44]

Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 15 (1998)[44]

Most consecutive uninterrupted games with at least 1 touchdown pass: 27

Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes (games 7–11, 2004): 5 (2004)[271]

Most consecutive games with at least 3 touchdown passes: 8 (games 5–12, 2004)[300]

Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)[44]

Most consecutive games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 13 (games 4–16)[44]

Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010)[267]

Highest touchdown percentage (career): 5.66%[44]

Highest touchdown percentage (season): 9.86% (2004)[44]

Highest touchdown percentage (game): 24.00% (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans)[44]

Most interceptions thrown (game): 6 (11/11/07 vs. San Diego)[44]

Most interceptions thrown (season): 28 (1998)[44]

Highest passer rating (career): 94.9[44]

Highest passer rating (season): 121.1 (2004)[44]

Most games with a perfect passer rating (career): 4 (includes 1 playoff game)[98]

Most consecutive games started to open a career by a quarterback: 208 (current)[301]

Most consecutive games started, franchise history: 208 (current)[301]

Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (career): 35 (includes one playoff game)[44]

Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (season): 7 (2009)[44]

Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (career): 46 (includes one playoff game)[44]

Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (season): 7 (1999, 2008, 2009)[44]

Broncos franchise records

Highest completion percentage (season): 68.6% (2012)

Most completions (season): 450 (2013)

Most pass attempts (season): 679 (2013)

Most passing yards (season): 5,477 (2013)

Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 12 (2013)

Most 400+ passing yard games (season): 3 (2013)

Most touchdown passes (game): 7 (September 5, 2013 vs. Baltimore Ravens)

Most touchdown passes (season): 55 (2013)

Highest passer rating (season): 115.1 (2013)

Most seasons with 100+ passer rating: 3 (2012-2014)

Most touchdown passes without an interception (game): 7 (September 5, 2013 vs. Baltimore Ravens)

Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards : 3 (2012-2014)[267]

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Most losses in the post season is not a good record to have.