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No they shouldn't Yes they should!
Debate Score:46
Arguments:24
Total Votes:59
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School Officials Should not be allowed to search students.

No they shouldn't

Side Score: 30
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Yes they should!

Side Score: 16
4 points

its just not right. schools shouldnt even have the right to TOUCH students unless they present a danger to others. unless school officials see some present danger on students they shouldnt even bother them

Side: No they shouldn't
MisterGuy(1) Disputed
5 points

I think that's the point. When kids are bringing in drugs & weapons into schools, they "present a danger to others".

Side: Yes they should!

While I recognize that students do not have the same rights as adults, or even as minors out of school, officials are not trained in the law or in systems of searching. If a student needs to be searched, involve the police.

Side: No they shouldn't
4 points

Of course, you want your schools to be safe. And the only way to secure this is to search students. Because we don't want drugs and alcohol and weapons in our schools, right? School officials have every legal right to search a student under REASONABLE SUSPICION.

Unless you're a student who has been searched before, I wouldn't expect you to know how many school officials ABUSE and TAKE ADVANTAGE OF that legal right.

Students, though most are minors, deserve more legal rights for search & seizure and school officials shouldn't have free range to frisk and bother students without concrete evidence.

Side: No they shouldn't
3 points

I am a student and it is a violation of the 4 amendment to search with out a warnnt you all talk about laws when you do even follow them your self. You need to think how this makes us as students feel. This would make us feel like we are delincuents as we arnt when you search with out cause.

Side: No they shouldn't
2 points

yeah it is we have the right to our personal privicy as americans

Side: No they shouldn't
2 points

im a female student and i think its such an invasion of our privacy because some of us are innocent and wouldnt think of bringing something bad to school so why should we have to be searched? its not fair to the good people. and i keep tampons and pads in my locker in a bag and we got searched once and all my tampons fell out of the bad and everyone laughed at me they are still calling me names! i was so humiliated! boys keep asking me if im on my period again and when i get mad they say im "moody"

Side: No they shouldn't
2 points

why do the good ones have to be scearched? just because of some stupid kids trying to get attention. they wont be happy when EVERYONE gets the attention also! then wat will they do?

Side: No they shouldn't
2 points

if they get a tip off that someone has a gun or something they would have had to have seen a specific person with it so y dont they just check that one person?

Side: No they shouldn't
2 points

we have equal rights just like the school officials do they wouldnt want there personal stuff messed with for everyone to see why do we have to put up with it?

Side: No they shouldn't
2 points

It is ridiculous that students are forced to surrender their rights when going to school. Indeed schools must protect their students from harm and at times a search is warranted. However, they're abusing social media as a means of finding so called, "probable cause" to drug test, frisk etc. Probable cause should be developed based on concrete evidence. Once this is done and only then, should they invade a students social media.

Side: No they shouldn't

Only if a parent has been notified and the parent gives permission to search.

Side: No they shouldn't
1 point

No schools should not be allowed to search lockers because it ur own privacy and it ur own stuff and if they take it without ask can we take this it is stealing because they didn't ask you and plus you didn't open the locker and say yes you can take that,then they are stealing mabey something important from your grandpa who died in the army maybe because of a sniper.

Side: No they shouldn't
1 point

For the people that are innocent, they would not be pleased with being searched. But it is better being safe than in danger.

Side: Yes they should!
1 point

Lockers should absolutely get searched. It is not invasion of privacy because the lockers are the property of a public school. Therefore, the lockers belong to the school and students should be smart enough to only put books and deodorant in them. The consequences should be decided in accordance with what they are caught in possession of. Obviously, the consequences for a gun versus drugs ought to be different.

Side: Yes they should!
1 point

They aren't violating the 4th amendment. The courts made it legal for schools to search students. By searching students, that doesnt mean for just drugs. When students might present reasonable danger to the atmosphere of a school, schools have the right to search and make the environment safe for EVERYONE. Searching of your lockers is totally logical. It is property of a public, government funded school. School is meant to be a safe, educational environment. Not where you can store your pot and weapons. They obviously have to have reasonable suspicion for the search. Could be as simple as acting weird, glossy eyes, stuff like that. It isnt a violation of anyone's rights. They aren't doing it just to "kill your vibe".

It's about keeping everyone safe. That's the point of The Declaration, The Constitution, The Emancipation. To keep YOU safe.

Side: Yes they should!
1 point

It depends. It would be acceptable:

1) If parents all had to sign a waiver before enrollment agreeing to it.

2) If an immediate threat to life was perceived. (If gunshots were heard on school grounds and they thought the gun was hidden in a student's pants)

3) If there was probable cause to believe the student had stolen (such as if a teacher's personal cell phone was stolen and they had every reason to believe it was the last student alone with that teacher)

4) If the student were found unconscious and they were looking for urgent lifesaving information (like if there is evidence of a drug overdose, or signs of physical injury).

But you know when it should NOT be allowed. It should not be allowed for just any random school official to on their own initiative start searching individuals just because they think that's in their authority as an adult working for the school. No. School is not a frat with hazing. Adults don't automatically have the same rights as parents or police simply because they're the only adult in the room at that moment.

But I voted on this side because I think more than half the time if officials are searching a student it's because they think they have little other choice in the spur of the moment. To those of you students who simply say no, they should never have the right, just imagine if you were scared because something bad was going down in your school and the administration was essentially powerless to do anything because legally they had to be hands off at all times?

Side: Yes they should!
1 point

If there is a genuine suspicion that the student may have an item or substance that would bring danger to either themselves or others, then yes, the school officials should be allowed to search them. Students are in a public area run by the school, as such they are subject to the guidelines set forth.

Side: Yes they should!
0 points

Children do not have the same rights as adults in USA. Heck, even adults get searched & patted down whenever they try & get on a plane or go somewhere that might house a lot of people (like a stadium, etc.).

I personally don't have a problem with children being searched, scanned, or wanded for their own safety. I also don't have a problem with random locker searches by school officials or specific locker searches that the police want to conduct. It is a sad state of affairs that are schools aren't safe enough these days though.

Side: Yes they should!
0 points

If school officials didn't search students, the student in possession of anything illegal would be able to keep what they have and pose a threat to the education of their peers and their lives. And if they were thought to have an illegal item on them, by the time they actually got someone who has permission to search them, the student could've hid the item somewhere. I agree with searching as long as the school official has had a background check and no 'unique' activities (such as being too friendly toward a student).

Side: Yes they should!
0 points

Students would say it is their privacy to avoid being searched, but that is false. It is the school property and they are aloud to search students whenever they want. A reason is that students could be holding drugs at school. Or weapons, or other illegal substances. Searching students will prevent future addiction, gang violence, and improve the safety of the community and city other than the school.

Side: Yes they should!
-1 points

If a student is suspected to have something dangerous, officials have the right to check them, and that is the way it should be.

Side: Yes they should!
-1 points

If that student had drugs or weapons, then they should be allowed to search them. They wouldn't allow dangerous teenagers running wild and causing havoc here and there.Its just safe for other people.

Side: Yes they should!
-1 points

Yes they should be patted down because if contreband or weapons are suspected they should be patted down. Pat downs should be done in a private area with 2 people of the same gender in the room and the pat down should be documented. As far as strip searches those should be done only by lar enforcerment.

Side: Yes they should!