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Pro Captivity Against whale captivity
Debate Score:210
Arguments:103
Total Votes:305
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SeaWorld Debate: Should SeaWorld be able to hold whales in captivity?

Should Seaworld continue to keep whales captive?  Consider their environments, life spans, and health, in the wild and in captivity.  

Pro Captivity

Side Score: 46
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Against whale captivity

Side Score: 164
2 points

Killer Whales have a special care and healthy life. "Animal Training techniques help veterinarians, animal care specialist trainers, and keepers to perform medical examinations more easily, and with less stress for the animals.

These animals get very well trained to present various parts of their body for examinations, measurements and blood sampling. They are trained to get on a scale, and even to urinate when sighned to do so. Most IMPORTANTLY, they are trained to hold still and remain calm through out any examinations. These are cute, good, awesome, caring, loving, wonderful, sea creatures!

Side: Pro Captivity
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Killer whales do NOT have special cares and a healthy life,

most times trainers don't have the knowledge to take care of these animals, and most times they are forced to train that way from captivity, and are starved until they do the training correctly.

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

whales do not know what to do while they go to Sea World because they are just baby's they do not know what to do. They are just like your mom trying to train to do something you don't know how to do it. They need to be trained more to know what they are doing while they are at Sea World doing shows.

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

i agree because they are like baby's they do not know what is going on

Side: Pro Captivity
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1 point

yeah but how would your mom feel if you where took away from her and treated horrible

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

whales are treated with love in Sea world but they intelligent animals they should how to listen what the trainers are saying to them i know they wild animals but they are treated with kindness and love they should not be eating people the trainers are not hurting the whales look at dolphins they are also intelligent animals and you don't see dolphins hurting people.

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

Whales should be in captivity because if they are in the wild a animal could try to hurt or kill it.They should be in captivity because if they are hungry the trainers can give them food instead of trying to look for it and keep looking for food.it would kinda hard for baby whales to look for food with their mother.they should be in captivity

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

Some of these whales because have been born in captivity so there actually probably used to it.

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

I PERSONALLY THINK that having KILLER WHALES IN THE POOL OF SEA WORLD is COOL and it would be GOOD for SHOWS!

Side: Pro Captivity

I'm Pro Captivity with some hard core changes to how they are kept now.

For one, if we continute to keep them in captivity, they need more space to explore and move around. They also need more stimulation and to be kept in their biological pods instead of being a money grub of "whereever the money is gets the whale"

Side: Pro Captivity
0 points

Whales should be captivated because they get treated with care. Also, with new technology, researchers are saying "they live longer being captivated than being out in the wild". It entertains the public of what whales can do, such as their tricks. It's a good in enviroment for whales and also they can socialize with other whales. Whales have special bonds with the trainers. Keeps whales from being harmed or hunted for by other animals. Educates the public about the beauty of orcas. They also get feed too. That why oras should be captivated.

Side: Pro Captivity
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4 points

Sea World shall not be kept in captivity. These poor animals have been in caged, and are depressed on what they had gone threw. Sea World has taken many babies from the mother, and has to blame the dead trainers about the whales killing their own whales

Side: Against whale captivity
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3 points

We need to free these caged animals. These whales aren't getting much food they need to survive, plus these animals are hurting each other, because Sea World has been punishing these whales, and putting other whale that don't speak their own same language/ and whales that don't know each other.

Side: Pro Captivity
2 points

i agree with 1300117288 because these poor animals have to stay in a big tank and sometimes get food.So its their fault that these poor animals are killing there trainers they should never took them away from the mother

Side: Against whale captivity
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1 point

These whales are very intelligent they know what they are doing,some whales are with there family's some aren't maybe they took the whale because the whale was in bad shape and needed care have y'all ever thought about that? These whales need care and how are they gonna get that in the wild???,Thank ya

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

They should just stop because it also means that the more killer whales that grow up in sea world and held in captivity just means there will be more dead trainers

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

u are right about the whales and when the trainer are teaching the whales a new trick and the whales don't do it right the whales get hungry and the trainer don't give them food so u can't expect to be okay with it of course they going to kill the trainer for not giving them food.

Side: Against whale captivity
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1 point

I highly disagree because they are in more danger than being captive.

Side: Pro Captivity
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3 points

whales should not get held in captivity cause whales are very big animal and i think they

should be to stay in the wild and live good life cause whales have fellings like us so why should seaworld capture whales from there family for just entertainment when all there doing is feeding them and helping them get there lives easier

Side: Against whale captivity
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1 point

I'm pro -captivity because they are feeding them and they are getting treated very well. Also, if whales were in the wild, they could get hurt or atten by other animals.

Side: Pro Captivity
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1 point

if whales are treated with care why are whales killing the trainers at sea world. Why are whales not getting food even when they do a trick wrong. Also they don't have an accurate information on killer whales they also twisted the information to make you think that its better to keep them in captivity. They would die if released to the wild because their use to being feed and taken care of.

Side: Against whale captivity
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0 points

The more whales that are held in captivity is the more aggressive killer whales can be and the more trainers that can be harmed or harmed to death

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

i agree whales are starting to hurt more and more people in captivity out in the they do not.

Side: Against whale captivity
0 points

Whales should be captivated because they get treated with care. Also, with new technology, researchers are saying "they live longer being captivated than being out in the wild". It entertains the public of what whales can do, such as their tricks. It's a good in enviroment for whales and also they can socialize with other whales. Whales have special bonds with the trainers. Keeps whales from being harmed or hunted for by other animals. Educates the public about the beauty of orcas. They also get feed too. That why oras should be captivated.

Side: Pro Captivity
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3 points

I disagree cause if they get treated with care then they wouldn't be killing trainers.the whales do know what they are doing they are smart they are just doing that on purpose cause being inside a tank is very annoying

Side: Against whale captivity
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1 point

I know whales are wild animals, but i disagree because whales shouldn't be in the wild. At seaworld, their entertaining the public and it makes the public want to visit seaworld even more.

Side: Pro Captivity
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1 point

If they actually took care then they would think more about the whales and their environment or how their living like if their tight with no space in a small take they should just think more into the whales and their care

Side: Against whale captivity
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0 points

most of the researcher's at sea world say they live longer so they look better to the pubic and they have more depression from not being with their family and they go in with other whales and say their family to the public

Side: Against whale captivity
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1 point

they will not live longer in captivity cause the way they treat them and they will not learn how to do stuff on their own they will think they get a treat every time in the wild they will learn how to do stuff on they own and they need to be social with whales of the same pod

Side: Pro Captivity
0 points

It states that Whales in the wild also die from humans from when you go on a cruise or a fishing trip there are oil spills that can kill these precious animals,You want whales to be set free?Some baby whales are born in captivity and you want them to be set free,if you set them free what are they gonna do when they don't what to do in the wild or it might be a grown Male or female killer whale born in captivity how are they gonna tell there baby where to go if they don't known what to do,either way the born captivity whales are treated a little better than the people in the wild

Side: Pro Captivity
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1 point

They shouldnt have taken away the mother baby's at first. Which causes the whales to cry and get annoyed, which they have to be loud and talk loud enough for their baby to hear their mother, plus we could also get annoyed and get sad are selves.

Side: Against whale captivity
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Yet, when they are killed its less likely to happen, due to where most whales live it has been banned,

When whales are set free, they take after their intelligence, and can learn themselves, being one of the smartest creatures along humans.

When they are born into captivity, they are forced to the un-natural living conditions they suffer through, as in starving them, giving them un-natural spaces for them, and letting them develop behavior issues.

Side: Against whale captivity
0 points

orcas should be in captivity because they are getting food to eat and if they are hurt they can come and get taken care of them and don't have to worry about hunting they prey hunting for them and don't have to run away. They well stay safe with no worries

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

I agree with you they are in a safer place and even though they are away from there families there are good taken care of. They are very good taken care of and if they get sick they can still take care of them while they are in there home pool, if they are in the sea and they get sick no one will be there to take care of them and they could die depending on the situation so I agree with you!

Side: Pro Captivity
evervaldes(15) Disputed
1 point

whales are getting bad food and that can killed whales and, whales attack other whales even if their in a huge cage whit other whales.

Side: Against whale captivity
haydenp21(4) Disputed
1 point

The frozen fish they feed the orcas is not part of their natural diet and the whales are raked by the other whales.

Side: Against whale captivity
0 points

I think that whales should be in captivity because the whales are being fed , getting sleep and are being treated well.

Side: Pro Captivity
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1 point

It's good that their getting treatment, but they are KILLER WHALES which means they are HUGE so they can go and hunt for food. Just because they are in Sea World doesn't mean they get what they want and anyways they get torn away from their parents. :(

Side: Against whale captivity
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0 points

just because whales are being fed does not mean any thing many whales that are captive are dying because they are getting hurt by the metal bars surrounding the pool and they are dying because of diseases that are spreading around

Side: Against whale captivity
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1 point

I disagree because whales in the wild are dying more than whales being captive.

Side: Pro Captivity
-2 points
kimberly0311(5) Disputed
2 points

If they just use the whales for entertainment then that might be wrong because then they are just caring about more entertainment and not giving care to the whales

Side: Against whale captivity
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2 points

In a situation like this where orcas and people are dying it doesn't matter about entertainment because its not a funny or interesting to watch. I would be terrified.

Side: Against whale captivity
-3 points
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2 points

Yea sure there still training but that won't do nothing to the whale to make them nice because then that will get then mad and upset cause there wild animals they can't change who the whales are cause they then can kill some one at SeaWorld like the trainers cause they don't get that munch food like they do in the ocean and they don't have that much space for themselves cause there to big for some of the tanks.

Side: Against whale captivity
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1 point

you are wrong cause they are going like that cause they are locked up in a dark room with nothing to do if they stay like that they won't know how to fend for themselves and do certain stuff

Side: Pro Captivity
4 points

Whales Should Not Be Help In Captivity For Example Say A Captive Whale A Whale That's Been In Captivity For All Its Life Goes Into The Real World They Wouldn't Know What To Do. Doesn't Know How To Protect Its Self But A Whale That's Grown In The Wild Will Know The True Potential Of Being A Whales They Know How To Protect Themselves And Everything

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

if sea world release a whale that was in captivity it would not know its way around it would not know how to hunt for its food or it would not know how to hide from its prey.

Side: Against whale captivity
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If you put a captive born whale in the wild what is gonna do if it doesn't know anything,like saying a mom had a new born baby didn't want the baby so gave the child away then 14 years later the mom wants her child back the 14 year old kid doesn't know that person how is the 14 year old gonna act if they don't know that type of family

Side: Pro Captivity
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1 point

Well if you put a captive born whale back with it's mother then it would be happy with it's mother then it would like where it lives.So it doesn't really matter about have many years they are together .Well basically they will be together unless they take it away from it mother.

Side: Against whale captivity
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0 points

I think it is safer in the pool because now they are used to being in the pool and then they are safer than being in the wild where there is danger!

Side: Pro Captivity
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1 point

actuality no because they have there family like the other killer whales and and they can all work together to safe each other and or else because the female is way bigger than the male killer whale and female can defend her self because she is very big and the male is half of her size.

Side: Against whale captivity
4 points

When whales are taken from the wild they are taken away from their families and put in small tanks with other whales that don't even speak the same language.That's like being locked in a room with a bunch of strangers that don't speak your language.

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

Hayden your right we people don't speak whale we just don't know how smart and intelligent these whales are.

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

Hayden your right whales should not suppose to be in captivity

Side: Against whale captivity
0 points

I actually agree with you because some whales actually fight. The next morning , some whales are actually bleeding because the fight was so bad.

Side: Against whale captivity
4 points

sea world should not have whales in captivity because whales are getting aggressive. and whales are not having enough space to swim around.also male whales are getting attacked by the female whales because whales in the wild are not that close to the females

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

you are right about that cause they males can't understand whats wrong and why are they doing this to me what did I do WRONG

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

whales are smart they take care of their children and seaworld took them away from their babies

Side: Against whale captivity
3 points

I agree cause the whales are just killing trainers and killer whales doesn't kill anyone in the wild so the whales should be released in out of the tank.imagine being in a shower for years wont u be mad?

Side: Against whale captivity
3 points

killer whales also known as orcas have been in captivity since 1961 helpless victims of a blatantly commercial experiment whice has seen dozen of wild orcas plucked from their families and forced to live in artificial social groupings which bear scant resemblance to their natural order.

Side: Against whale captivity
3 points

To Begin,the whales should not held captive because their meant to be wild and sea world takes the baby orcas from their family's and that's not good because killer whales make their own language with their family so if they keep taking baby's from different family's they won't live because they are very social animals so if they can't understand all of these different languages they will not be able to socialize

Side: Against whale captivity
3 points

Whales have no history of hurting people out in the wild. in captivity whales are killing people around the world.

Side: Against whale captivity
3 points

since 1961 whales have kept in captivity, when people capture whales for captivity their been separated from their family. at least 156 whales have been capture in captivity since 1961 and, 129 out of 156 are now dead. whales can live longer in the wild than in captivity,in the wild whales can live into 90 years and in captivity the longest whale alive is only 53 years old when he died.

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

I agree, when whales are in the wild the males live to a max of 60 to 70 years old and females live to a max of 80 to over a hundred years old.However in captivity the whales that live at seaworld usually live to 13 years of age.

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

Unsuitable Living Conditions

Animals at SeaWorld are often housed either in isolation or in incompatible groups. They are frequently shipped to and from various parks or aquariums and relocated to different tanks. These inconsistent and unnatural housing situations can result in injuries and stress. One example of this is the story of Nanuq, a beluga whale who was held captive at SeaWorld

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

No because captivity is the reason why some whales can be very aggressive and can harm trainers and other who get near them

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

I disagree because "There are currently a total of 60 orcas held in captivity (27 wild-captured plus 33 captive-born)" These animals were taken from their families and in SeaLand they were put into a small space which was "12 foot deep -- that was barely large enough for him to turn around in" one article said and this was towards Tilikum imgaine all the other whales or orcas.

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

YES WE SHOULD STOP CATCHING BABY KILLER WHALE BECAUSE THE KILLER WHALES IN SEA WORLD THEY ATTACK THE TRAINER AND THERE IS NO HISTORY OF A WILD KILLER WHALE ATTACKING AND TILIKUM STORY IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE HUMAN HAS ALL THE FOUGHT AND THE VICTIMS OF TILIKUM

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

I agree of what you said cause killer whales are really social animals you can go of where they live and they wont attack you or anything

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

whales are wild animals if you keep them in a cage with other whales they don,t know its like putting a bunch of people in a room from different country's that don,t speak the same language and keeping them their is going to drive them mental cause they don't know what their saying so they can't social with them and they wont know how to get their own food its like spoiling a kid for all his or her life they wont know how to do things themselves

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

I am against whale captivity for a reason this reason is that whales live longer when not in captivity.The whales have a better view of than captive whales.The captivity whales stay in the same spots for year and have no experience like the other whales do.And to top it off the captive whales have been killing people do you know why because there wild animals captivity is not good for the whales.

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

I am against whale captivity for a reason this reason is that whales live longer when not in captivity.The whales have a better view of than captive whales.The captivity whales stay in the same spots for year and have no experience like the other whales do.And to top it off the captive whales have been killing people do you know why because there wild animals captivity is not good for the whales.

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

i am against whale captivity because whales are get hurt by other whale. whales are mad because they are not usual to the thing that they do at seaworld. Captivity related stress can also lead to aggressive behavior that may endanger professionals as well as visitors. Releasing to the wild is not always a successful alternative.Animals may suffer from captivity related stresses that lower their resistance and make them more susceptible to disease, making lifespans in captivity significantly lower than in the wild.. Big animals, especially orcas, are way too big to be confined to a tank — when in the wild they would have the “run” of the ocean or their habitate.

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

I agree with you cause they get hurt and don't know why they get attacked so they don't know whats going on

Side: Against whale captivity
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1 point

they are treated with kindness and love they are intelligent animals they should know

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

I agree with you because of how they are treated. Like the tilikum case, where they were bullied and forced to do tricks as well as other skills, when they did not do them correctly, they'd starve them. And yes, they can not escape from their habitat, and mostly don't know how to defend themselves because they are never trained to.

Side: Against whale captivity
2 points

I'm against whale captivity because whales are being seppurated from their whale enviorment and if they are seperatted from their whale enviorment they are not going to get used to their surroundings and they will just be stuck with other whales that won't understand each other

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

Whales should not be hold captivity because SeaWorld does not treat them good. And they don't feed them right because when a whale does something wrong then all of the whales that are with that whales they don't get to get food and that's not good, because in the wild they can catch there own food and the amount they want. Also the tanks are like bathtubs for them and they normally live in the wild and are used to having a lot of space.

Side: Against whale captivity
6 points

I agree because these wales are in a small area with multiple other whales that they do not know who they are and they grow up to 32 feet and In sea world tanks are 50 there is about 3 or 4 whales in there. they don't know who they are don't know there language.

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

Yeah and they can harm each other by scratching and making each other bleed

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

I agree because SeaWorlds tanks are sort of not that big for the whales cause they do grow very long so some can't really go in the tanks.

Side: Against whale captivity
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to begin some of these whales are hurt so they take them in so they can live to sea another day because they may be very big animals but their is always something either bigger or tougher or and if they are hurt they won't be able to take care of or defend their self so they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart they just might not be doing it the right way that's all

Side: Pro Captivity
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i think killer whales should be in captivity because these majestic animals get a chance to meet and be friends with humans and get a chance to be happy. altho i know that orca babys are taken from their mothers, but they get fed without hunting for it. and last but not least, they also have friends to communicate with when they have time to. overall i support whales should stay in captivity

Side: Pro Captivity
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I disagree because they feed the whales and treat them very very well.

Side: Pro Captivity
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They should be in captivity because in the wild it is hard trying to look for food.The trainers would give them food instead of them trying to hunt for the food them self it would be hard for them to do that.They should be in captivtiy

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

Whales shouldn't be hold in captivity because they haven't been in the wild. So if they release them they probably wouldn't survive a day in wild because their use to being feed And taken care. So if released they would die

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

the reason i am against because orca's stay with their familys their whole life in the wild and when they are in captivity they are with different whales and orca's from all over the world have a different way to speak to one a other

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

I agree cause the whales need a lot of space to fit in the tank. the wales are like 21to25 feet long so wales should be in the wild. imagine being kidnapped by people and they just threw you in a room full of random people wouldn't you be sad

Side: Against whale captivity
0 points

yes i agree they do not live in tight spaces like a tank they swim around in the sea

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

no whales should not be held in captivity cause i think they could live a better life and these animal are the type that would always stick together and and from something i saw the are working together and love each other.

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

whales should not be held in captivity cause cause staying in the same tank for years and some whales make hurt and fight each other and that could make you go crazy

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

I believe that whales should not be held in captivity because of how dangerous it is to work as a Seaworld trainer. About 100 cases and more have been proven to be aggression from orcas, The trainers at Seaworld are just trainers mostly do NOT know how to care for an orca. Due to most treatment at Seaworld, Orcas tend to show aggressive behaviors because of how they are treated, and most aggression is from captivity, feeding, or behavioral issues.

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

Whales are wild and they should not be in captivity imagine how big is the ocean and compare it to the tanks they are put in very little space.Did you know that Orcas dorsal fin are tip over because they have no room.You rarely see Orcas dorsal fin bent in the wild.My point is that Orccas need freedom and need space no wonder why their are reported accident of Orcas eating people and hurting others.

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

Well at sea world whales should be release because 165 whales had died at sea world including 30 miscarried or still-born calve.So then those whales should be release to where they came from to go back with there parents.But sea world still holds 22 in it's different parks in the united states. So sea world should release there whales to be free.But at sea world 48 whales had died there. At sea world the whales are in a 600 feet pool and they stay there night and day.

Side: Against whale captivity
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They are way more safer in a pool that they were born in and that they know more than the wild where there are dangerous animals that can hurt it. I think they are way mire safer at SeaWorld than in the wild at the sea were there are horrible animals!

Side: Pro Captivity
1 point

whales should not be held captive cause they need to be social with whales of the same kind cause each whale speaks a different language so not all whales speak the same language its been proven

Side: Against whale captivity
1 point

I feel like this is like this is the proper side to be on because How will you like it if you where taken from your family and put in a whole new home of people you did not know. how would you feel

Side: Against whale captivity
0 points

i am against the captivity of killer whales because they should have space to roam around just like they were when they were wild and free. Because of the cramped spaces they develop violent behavior and may even become psychotic, Which is another reason why captivity is bad. The orcas fight with each other because of the size of the pool from sea world. When orcas fight, it could get so bad to the point where they either have an injury or might even die. The tight space causes anxiety and tension and many more. The small space in the pool also makes their dorsal fin collapse and the dorsal fin is supposed to be 6 feet in the air.

Side: Against whale captivity