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Creationism is not a theory in the scientific sense. It is a theory in the vernacular definition of the word; that is to say it is a mere conjecture, opinion, or speculation.
Creationism is not to be measured scientifically? But yet it has scientific evidence? That sounds contradictory. May I see this evidence?
As far as I am aware, there is no known evidence for creationism. If anyone can prove me wrong, I encourage it.
There is plenty of evidence for both macro and micro evolution. All you need to do is educate yourself on the subject, for it is clear you have not. If you would like, I can post some links to websites.
Also, you can post some links to websites that you think debunks macro evolution as well.
yes, evolution is just a process and is still happening all around us, to teach us evolution is retarded, why not try to figure out why things evolve in the first place...
Homosapien is evolving! dun dun dun dudududundundun dududu- Homosapien stopped evolving! oh darn now we have to gain a few more levels.... unless anyone has... rare candies??
i wonder what the first cell evolved from, the first basic, molecular cell that started it all... man thats crazy, bacteria, where did this shit evolve from? NEW QUESTION: what came first the god or the cell LOL jk
What makes me think humans are not evolving anymore? We have lost our survival instinct, we focus too much on thriving, and not surviving, well at least MOST people arent focusing on surviving anymore, but then again in todays society the only thing to try and survive is another day in the streets... idk
This is from an old debate I posted in, I didn't see the point retyping it.
If you think about what codes life contains, it all boils down to genetic material, i.e. Nucleic acids, DNA and RNA, it is the latter that is the most interesting, RNA, comes in several forms, and for the purpose of this argument the first most important RNA is cRNA, it is catalytic, in that it can catalyze it's own synthesisand also carry a code. There doesn't need to be life to have reproduction.
Now think about the way, lipids aggregate in an aqueous environment, i.e. they form micelles, and bi-layer lipids form liposomes, again, non living, but freely observable, as above.
In a primordial soup or some other harsher chemical environment, a liposome surrounded a cRNA, then you have a rudimentary cell, this cRNA will have a much better chance of survival than others, as it is kept safer from things that can denature it. So starts the explosive work of natural selection.
Now we can talk about other RNA, such as tRNA and rRNA, both of these still serve functions in every living thing on this planet. Say for example you have high presence of amino acids in our early environment, there is nothing stopping the joining of amino acids to RNA molecules, there would be myriad forms of RNA in this world, what if in a catalytic RNA generation the wrong nucleotides were placed, this happens all the time, with DNA, whose synthesis is much more strict, so it's no stretch of the logic. These amino acid holding RNA and some ribosomal RNA could begin synthesis of short rudimentary but functioning peptides, from here it's quite obvious that those that make the most functional peptides will survive. These will eventually create the multitudinous proteins we see today and probably in the same place that makes their bilayer coats, this is your first cell.
That would be abiogenesis, not the theory of evolution.
Science isn't certain how the first cell came about, all science knows is that it did happen, because here we are today.
As for humans not evolving, your argument doesn't make sense. So because humans focus on thriving, instead of surviving, we are going to stop evolving...? I'm sorry, but that's a non sequitur.
NO. Creationism/Intelligent design is not a scientific alternative.
Scientific Theory definition: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.
Creationism/Intelligent design does not meet the definition for scientific theory.
There is no evidence to support creationism. I don't care if people believe it, but it does not belong in a science class as an alternative to the Theory of Evolution.
Sure, then we can teach flat Earth theory in geography lessons and astrology in physics lessons.
Religious beliefs should be taught as such, not as fact.
Oh, and I know creationists like to pretend there is a debate about the validity of evolution in science, there isn't. When observable reality contradicts your bronze age creation myths, you throw away the myths, not reality.
I do find your last point ironic and so true. People would really believe stories from centuries ago, rather than theories that have been proved time and time again?
Creationism should not be taught as an alternative to evolution. However, kids do need to be aware the creationism exists. I would not want children to be caught off-guard when the Bible-beaters come to "cleanse the land" with the "blood of Christ".
For those who haven't seen QI, a theory is something that has actually been proven, using evidence and models. Intellegent design is not a theory because it has never been proven and there is no evidence to support it.
No definitely not, because there is no science in scipture. Let me present you with a timeline- Xian scripture was written from around 2000 BC to about 200 years after Christ was 'alive' (supposedly). Modern science came around well after the scriptures were written with the emergence of such extraordinary figures like Kepler, Galileo and Newton etc. Therefore creationism cannot be and should not be taught as a scientific alternative to the theory of evolution because there is NO science in scripture.
No, it is purely religious. Neither it nor evolution have been observed nor can they be observed. Both sides are viewing the same evidence and both are making inferences to form conclusions. Therefore, they should both be taken out of schools because they are both faiths (because they both make inferences, which are assumption). Otherwise, we would have no separation of church and state and we would then be allowing the introduction of multiple forms of "creation" stories into the academic curriculum.
Scientists do not "make inferences" to form conclusions. The evidence is available for all to see, and virtually all scientists have come to the same conclusion, making the possibility of all of them having the same exact "pre-conceived" notions unlikely to the point of near impossibility. The scientific community is overwhelmingly unified on the theory of evolution, it is not in doubt in the slightest.
Evolution is a faith? I'm not following your logic on this. Regardless, Evolution is not in any sense of the word, a faith or based on it in any way.
The Theory of Evolution is strictly science. Please refer to the definition of scientific theory.
creationists... guys evolution is a fact. a FACT. don't deny it. A semi-intelligent thing to say would be god created the shit that evolved into us (even this is probably not true) but please don't just dismiss it for your fairy tale bullshit some guy in the desert made up probably while he was wiping his ass with a leaf, because thats how long ago this stuff was made up. we've come along way fucking act like it. If you dismiss years of research and close observation for some book made up before we had indoor plumbing then your holding humanity back.
Ummm, show me where it says evolution is 100% fact. In fact, both creationism and evolution have evidence, none have proof. If it was a fact why is there so much contradiction.
Bro, even a quick google search of why evolution is not right will make you question your argument, i promise c;
P.S I'm talking about macro-evolution, not micro-evolution. Every rational theist can agree that there are minor changes in same species through out time, that has been observed . We contradict that our genes constantly changed till we humans were formed and we see no other species now that are changing into other completely new species, which has not been observed.
Scientific Fact: an observation that has been confirmed repeatedly and is accepted as true (although its truth is never final).
The Theory of Evolution fits this definition quite well.
The reason why there is so much contradiction is because creationists tend to think that evolution disproves christianity or the bible, due to some quote in the bible saying God made all the animals "according to their kinds".
I can assure you, there is no controversy over evolution among the scientific community. Virtually the entire community supports it.
I have googled why evolution is false, the arguments do not make sense. At least, the ones I looked at make zero sense. I am more than willing to look at your sources though.