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Debate Score:37
Arguments:31
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Should Creationism/Intelligent design be taught as a scientific alternative to evolution.

Yes

Side Score: 10
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No

Side Score: 27
2 points

Both are theories, contrary to popular belief neither has 100% infallible proof.

Side: Yes
2 points

Is this the absolute knowledge fallacy?

Creationism is not a theory in the scientific sense. It is a theory in the vernacular definition of the word; that is to say it is a mere conjecture, opinion, or speculation.

Evolution is a theory and a fact.

Supporting Evidence: "Evolution has not been proved" (www.talkorigins.org)
Side: No
sonya(20) Disputed
1 point

It is not be measured scientifically you mean, there is scientific evidence though.

Depends which type of evolution, I am not arguing about micro-evolution.

Side: Yes
sonya(20) Clarified
1 point

By both I mean creationism/intelligent design and evolution.

Side: Yes
FleshEaterUK(34) Disputed
1 point

1. I don't understand why you have voted for creationism if you think both are wrong

2. Evolution has proof. Try Googling it

Side: No
sonya(20) Disputed
1 point
Side: Yes
-1 points

yes, evolution is just a process and is still happening all around us, to teach us evolution is retarded, why not try to figure out why things evolve in the first place...

Homosapien is evolving! dun dun dun dudududundundun dududu- Homosapien stopped evolving! oh darn now we have to gain a few more levels.... unless anyone has... rare candies??

Side: Yes
1 point

Why do things evolve in the first place? Because there is a survival instinct in most/all living things.

Organisms that have this survival instinct, tend to live and reproduce, thereby passing on their genes.

Organisms that do not have this survival instinct, tend to die early and not reproduce, thereby becoming extinct.

What makes you think humans are no longer evolving?

Side: No
1 point

i wonder what the first cell evolved from, the first basic, molecular cell that started it all... man thats crazy, bacteria, where did this shit evolve from? NEW QUESTION: what came first the god or the cell LOL jk

What makes me think humans are not evolving anymore? We have lost our survival instinct, we focus too much on thriving, and not surviving, well at least MOST people arent focusing on surviving anymore, but then again in todays society the only thing to try and survive is another day in the streets... idk

Side: Yes
ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
1 point

yes, evolution is just a process and is still happening all around us, to teach us evolution is retarded,

So teaching people the accepted and proven model that explains the wide variety of life and complexity within is retarded?

why not try to figure out why things evolve in the first place...

Natural selection.

Homosapien is evolving! dun dun dun dudududundundun dududu- Homosapien stopped evolving!

WTF?

Side: No
FleshEaterUK(34) Clarified
1 point

I think what he means by:

Homosapien is evolving! dun dun dun dudududundundun dududu- Homosapien stopped evolving!

is that he think humans should be evolving noticeably decade by decade.

The guy who wrote it doesn't understand how long evolution actually takes

Side: Yes

NO. Creationism/Intelligent design is not a scientific alternative.

Scientific Theory definition: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.

Creationism/Intelligent design does not meet the definition for scientific theory.

There is no evidence to support creationism. I don't care if people believe it, but it does not belong in a science class as an alternative to the Theory of Evolution.

Side: No
1 point

It's not scientific.

Side: No

Sure, then we can teach flat Earth theory in geography lessons and astrology in physics lessons.

Religious beliefs should be taught as such, not as fact.

Oh, and I know creationists like to pretend there is a debate about the validity of evolution in science, there isn't. When observable reality contradicts your bronze age creation myths, you throw away the myths, not reality.

Side: No

I do find your last point ironic and so true. People would really believe stories from centuries ago, rather than theories that have been proved time and time again?

Side: No
1 point

Read this to understand why that is not possible:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_trial

Side: No
1 point

It can only be scientific if it has evidence proving it real.

Creationism and other bible nonsense has no evidence and never will. Because it is all made up.

I feel sorry for those who are taught that nonsense.

Side: No

Creationism should not be taught as an alternative to evolution. However, kids do need to be aware the creationism exists. I would not want children to be caught off-guard when the Bible-beaters come to "cleanse the land" with the "blood of Christ".

Side: No

For those who haven't seen QI, a theory is something that has actually been proven, using evidence and models. Intellegent design is not a theory because it has never been proven and there is no evidence to support it.

Side: No
1 point

No definitely not, because there is no science in scipture. Let me present you with a timeline- Xian scripture was written from around 2000 BC to about 200 years after Christ was 'alive' (supposedly). Modern science came around well after the scriptures were written with the emergence of such extraordinary figures like Kepler, Galileo and Newton etc. Therefore creationism cannot be and should not be taught as a scientific alternative to the theory of evolution because there is NO science in scripture.

Side: No
-1 points

No, it is purely religious. Neither it nor evolution have been observed nor can they be observed. Both sides are viewing the same evidence and both are making inferences to form conclusions. Therefore, they should both be taken out of schools because they are both faiths (because they both make inferences, which are assumption). Otherwise, we would have no separation of church and state and we would then be allowing the introduction of multiple forms of "creation" stories into the academic curriculum.

Side: No
2 points

Evolution has been observed.

Scientists do not "make inferences" to form conclusions. The evidence is available for all to see, and virtually all scientists have come to the same conclusion, making the possibility of all of them having the same exact "pre-conceived" notions unlikely to the point of near impossibility. The scientific community is overwhelmingly unified on the theory of evolution, it is not in doubt in the slightest.

Evolution is a faith? I'm not following your logic on this. Regardless, Evolution is not in any sense of the word, a faith or based on it in any way.

The Theory of Evolution is strictly science. Please refer to the definition of scientific theory.

You are clearly wrong on this issue.

Side: Yes
vandebater(444) Disputed
1 point

creationists... guys evolution is a fact. a FACT. don't deny it. A semi-intelligent thing to say would be god created the shit that evolved into us (even this is probably not true) but please don't just dismiss it for your fairy tale bullshit some guy in the desert made up probably while he was wiping his ass with a leaf, because thats how long ago this stuff was made up. we've come along way fucking act like it. If you dismiss years of research and close observation for some book made up before we had indoor plumbing then your holding humanity back.

Side: No