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Debate Score:68
Arguments:37
Total Votes:85
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Should God be worshipped and respected?

God seems too powerful, inconsistent, and uninvolved.  So should we really respect and worship such a being?

No

Side Score: 38
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Yes

Side Score: 30
4 points

How can I worship and respect something that does not exist?

Side: No
2 points

Its right God is just an imagination figure created by the humans..................

sooooooooooooo y should we worship and respect a thing which does not exist..

Side: No
3 points

Well, I feel compelled to vote on this side as I don't believe any god exists but the ones we make for ourselves.

But I do not like one of the arguments on this side in particular, so here goes:

1. There is nothing wrong with respecting a god if you think one is out there somewhere. There's nothing wrong with looking to something you believe in to help you through your own personal dilemmas so long as you are thinking and putting honest effort into figuring something out.

2. It is wrong if you are not thinking at all, but just looking for kind of the cliff notes of life. They don't exist, and that so many of the flock think they do, is one of the major problems people like myself has with religion.

3. It is wrong if you start applying your belief system to others who may or may not share in it.

4. Worship is evil. It does not matter how good one thinks what is being worshiped is. No truly good god would desire worship, any god who demanded it is not good at all. Worship is basically an ass-kissing fest. If there is a god, he already knows how cool he is, and he already knows what you do or don't think of him.

Side: No

Well said. Especially number four. But one question. You say in argument number one that people who believe look to god for advice. If the being gives advice usually people are then considered insane. How does that work out? But anyway, good arguments. I agree completely that a good god would desire worship, for that defeats the purpose of being a good god.

Side: No
2 points

Yeah, that's tricky huh? How can one who thinks they're talking to an invisible person be considered sane?

I think though that most who pray to some god for an answer would admit that they never really get an answer. Of course some insist they do get an answer, and that I believe is insanity.

But I think what's going on with sane people when they pray, is it likely helps them get their priorities in order, and free themselves of distractions,

Much in the same way meditation would, or simply sitting down, closing your eyes and really thinking something through.

Is a god necessary for this to take place? Of course not, I and I'm sure you decide things in this manner all the time without asking some god. But I don't suppose it hurts for those comfortable with prayer.

As I said though I think, a lot of the time, this prayer, or looking for an answer, has 0 to do with actually making an effort to figure something out.

All too often it's just empty postulation, and all that is being figured is how to further guard their own mind against any descent or free thought,

which is a terrible thing to do to oneself, and terrible for society as a whole, and one of the problems I, and I imagine many, have with religion.

Side: No

I do not believe that their is an intelligent god. If there is, he does not deserve my respect or adoration. He would be no better than the devil, only God's sin is his inaction. You can say he sent jesus, but what about the modern age? Only people have helped out, not some divine loser. I am sorry, but the god described in holy books does not deserve anything, not even to be god.

Side: No
MKIced(2511) Disputed
1 point

If God always interfered in our lives, we would not feel the free will that we have to the fullest extent. We have free will and we can choose to do good or evil and we must accept the consequences. If God always interfered, we would never have a choice in the matter.

Think of it like a raising a child. Which is better for the child once he/she grows up into the adult world?.... (1) The parents cover up his mistakes, help him in every single problem, and basically baby him. Or (2) The parents occasionally fix his problems, but on the whole he must learn from his mistakes and the mistakes of others, he must grow intellectually to distinguish between good and bad.

Which is better? You tell me.

Side: yes
2 points

Yes it is better for parents not to get involved in everything. But occasionally they do get involved and at least give advice. I do not see a god ever giving even a tad bit of notice to people in the modern age. Anyone notice that everyone says "talk to god," but if god ever talks back then you are insane? For all we know, Moses and Jesus could have just been high or something. Main point being that god himself is a contradictory being, and perhaps a new god should be made that lacks these issues.

Side: No

Tell me this. If we as humans could not think, would god exist? Does a dog respect god? No. A dog does not think in the same capacity that we do. Therefore, it is logical not to waste the energy respecting something that is likely a myth.

Side: No
1 point

is a god that allows evil worth worship?

i don't think so

Side: No
1 point

doesnt exist than there is no reason to worship it. its all the imagination that there is a god. there is no proof that he is real so as far as i am concerned he is not and even if they did find proof i dont need to believe in something bigger than me

Side: No
1 point

So far I've yet to find evidence or proof that god exist. Life is so mysterious that our minds enslaves us to the point where we create our own gods. So without any further evidence for now we are our own god.

Until new/concrete info presents itself, god only exist in our imaginations that we use for comfort.

Side: No
1 point

There is not much difference between Nazi-style submission to authority and total, eternal submission to the invisible universal dictator.

The truth is what you're told.

Religion was meant to supplement states man, aside from armed forces, as means of control. By having established a fervently god-fearing population, deterrence are in effect, people will self-correct/ self-censor them self and less policing effort required to advance people to your means.

Tell them to march to death, and they'll likely conspire against you, but instruct them from childhood that it is the will of god, who reward them virgins in their after life, then they'll ready to do anything for you.

There aren't much moral for mental slavery.

Side: No
2 points

If you believe in Him then yes. If you're atheist or agnostic, then nobody is forcing you to worship Him. If you're polytheistic, then worship your many gods. It's all fine to me.

Side: yes

Well said Mick, I agree totally. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Side: yes
1 point

::sigh:: I think somebody decided to downvote all "yes" arguments. Mine went down and so did yours.... All fixed now. :)

Side: yes
1 point

He created the universe. If He deserves anything, it's respect.

Side: yes
PungSviti(552) Disputed
1 point

How do you know

a) because the bible tells you so

b) because daddy tells you so

c) because so many people say so so it couldn't be untrue

d) because you have "any" subjective evidence (please do not use the whole universe as subjective evidence - no absurdities please)

Side: No
deepishm(359) Disputed
1 point

dear frnd just think sensibly, god is just imagination................. it is science that created the universe......

Side: No
1 point

The Lord God should be worshipped and feared for He is the one that created you.

Side: yes
4 points

I respect the universe. I was created because my parents wanted kids, not because god said "boom! you are born!" The universe for all we know was an accident. We could be an accident of evolution. Do animals worship god? No. Why? They lack the capacity to even think of something like it. So why waste the energy? Oh, and if I have to fear god, then he is not all loving and all nice now is he? I bow down to none, especially not what is most likely a myth.

Side: No
1 point

IF God exists then it would be foolish to not respect him. And it would not be wise to not worship him.

At the end of the day if he exists he would have to be omnipotent, omniscience and worthy of all respect. Otherwise God wouldn't be God.

Side: yes
1 point

The traits you list both contradict each other. If you can show them not to contradict, then maybe I will change my mind.

Side: No
1 point

Absolutely! Even scientists know that there is a limit to what they can prove since men are finite beings.

Side: yes
1 point

But science always searches for more knowledge. The limits are only because we lack technology or the people interested for certain subjects.

Side: No

Give praise where praise is due, so, God should be worshipped and respected.

Side: Yes
-3 points
MKIced(2511) Disputed
5 points

"Why don't monkeys turn into people now a days?!"

Are you serious? Please tell me that's a joke.... You're giving a bad name to religious people!!!!!!

I am a religious person and I believe in evolution because there is evidence of it! Species evolve over many many many different generations. It took billions of years for life to evolve from single celled organisms to multi-cellular organisms. 4.6 Billion years ago, the planet was born. 3.8-3.5 billion years ago, life began in the form of single celled chemoatutotrophic organisms. Another billion years later, photoautotrophs (means they can photosynthesize) evolve and begin producing oxygen in the oceans and the atmosphere. This oxygen made it possible for the first eukaryotes (single celled organisms, but the same cell structure as all animals, plants, and fungi) to evolve about 2.1 billion years ago. Finally, 1.3 billion years ago, single celled organisms (which had begun forming small colonies of only a few cells shortly before) began evolving into multi-cellular organisms in the sea, starting with sponges, jellies, etc.

As a summary, life has been around for at least 3.5 billion years, 2 billion of which were spent with only prokaryotic forms of life (these are the cells that are not similar to our own) and life has been aquatic for about 3 billion years. That's a lot of time just to get to land!

Supporting Evidence: evidence (campus.udayton.edu)
Side: yes
1 point

Clearly you and I said something to make this person downvote us.... Oh yeah, now I remember. We gave facts and evidence! How rude.

Side: yes
Mattnicho(11) Disputed
1 point

people who reference to wikipedia are quite blatently ignorant fools

Side: yes
PungSviti(552) Disputed
1 point

Some of them are getting to be smarter than you and most of the population of the bible belt - Give them time

Side: No
MKIced(2511) Disputed
1 point

So that's how you react? You downvote a legitimate source from somebody else and FACTS and a source from me?!?!? That's not how this site is run!

Side: yes

Not to worry, my friend. You're up again. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Side: yes
1 point

You are uneducated. Evolution is slow and takes hundreds or thousands of years for a species to change into a new one. Humans were an accident.

Side: No