well we can't change it to "in gold we trust" now can we?
52 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Well, it's not that it SHOULD remain on American currency... it's more like it doesn't matter whether it's still on there or not. The only reason why I would prefer it to stay on is because it describes a major part of American History when we showed those Commie bastards that a Capitalist Democracy > Communist Dictatorship. So I would prefer it to stay on there. Or else the Commies win.
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
You got all that from "in god we trust"? Actually it had nothing to do with communism... I mean, did you think that was some kind of religious war? God I hope not! Here's what it's really all about link As you can see what is really going on is divergence from our founding principle of religious freedom. "In god we trust" actually began becoming popular as a motto during the Civil War It can be found on some state flags as well dating back to that period. However it was not until the 50's that the Christian cult began taking a strangle-hold and perverting the system of government. In 1956 a bunch of congressman pointed out that there was no "official" State motto, and being the typical hypocritical kiss-asses they were, decided they could get a few extra votes by invoking the name of an invisible dude in the sky. So in 1957 the hijacking of American money by the religious storm-troopers was complete, "E Plurabis Unam" - the very American idea of from many one, was replaced by the very unamerican "in god we trust" woohoo! Those heathen naysayers took it all the way to the Supreme Court, but the Court decided that the term had been so over-used, that it in no way constituted the "creation of a state religion" and was just a generic phrase... like "holy cow!" (Who's every really seen a holy cow) so no harm no foul basically. I agree, it's been rendered meaningless at this point. I just get annoyed when it's used by the ignorant as some kind of proof that we are a religious nation, and so would love it removed. Find the politician to open that floodgate though, good luck. We're stuck with it.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
Actually, the 50s was the time where everyone feared the bomb. That's when all of a sudden Americans feared the Soviet Union and Vice Versa. The Commies were Godless. Anyone who was religious was either put into a camp or executed. The Americans in the 50s used their enemies as a time to be proud of their religion and country. Eisenhower and Congress decided that it was time to show how much they differed from the Commies. While the Commies hated religion, America was mainly Religious and hated the Commies. So they put In God We Trust as the national motto and put God in the Pledge of Allegiance. So yes, IGWT and God in the Pledge all represent how we kicked the Commie's asses.
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Links please. I refuse to believe on your word that it was a "holy" war. Plus the link I provided said it wasn't.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
From your Link: A law was passed by the 84th United States Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956. President Dwight D. Eisenhower approved a joint resolution declaring In God We Trust the national motto of the United States.[2] The same Congress had required, in the previous year, that the words appear on all currency, as a Cold War measure: "In these days when imperialistic and materialistic Communism seeks to attack and destroy freedom, it is proper" to "remind all of us of this self-evident truth" that "as long as this country trusts in God, it will prevail." [10]
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
boo! I've lost all respect of Eisenhower. Oh well, guess it's only a matter of time then until we go the way of every other religious State in history. So bets on if we'll be saluting a Chinese flag, or some EU flag. I have 100 on China.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
I'm sure glad our God-fearing nation was never materialistic or imperialistic. We've always giving all our material possessions away, and only export hope and liberty to those poor countries that don't already have it.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
I feel your pain. I'm stuck with a lot of crap that I disagree with too. And there's a hell of a lot more crap that I disagree with that is coming down the pike ;)
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Simply because something is part of our past doesn't mean it should be commeroated on our currency. I also fail to see how belief in God helped us beat the Communists. Oh, and what's the ETA on God helping us beat the Chinese, who are also still sorta communist?
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
Yes, I don't want it removed. It would cost too much money. ;)
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Yes, I don't want it removed. It would cost too much money. ;) You'd be using less ink, so it would cost less money. Besides, the fed already redesigns bills every few years, just to stay ahead of counterfeiters.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
Oh well..., since you put it that way..., I chose to keep it on there ;)
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
who bothers to read their money? who think hey im going to buy some bread and milk, but hang on before i pay, i will read the money!
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
There's nothing wrong with keeping it there. I know our forefathers meant the conventional Christian God but it's not written that way on the currency. In God we trust...any God is implied!
49 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Hey this is a good topic to come up with. As i can see, there is a bee hive out there to argue "BUZZ_BUZZ_BUZZ" in this one. first my hearty thanks and congrats to you JC coming to the point, this is true that we trust in god, atleast in some or the other form. then, why to hold back the truth? be daring enough to be grateful to the one who gave you the money to you. writing te saying above is not completely enough, you must have the inner thanks to the one who gave the money to you in time( after all it is none other than god, who is our father! then what is wrong to hide your feelings?)
47 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Most of the citizens ARE Christian! Duh! And it is tradition way older than any of you so yea keep it.
43 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Although it does say church and state are separate in the constitution, I believe we should keep it on our money even though not everyone is a church goer. It should stay on because it is a big part of our history.
41 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Yes it should, cause of the simple fact that the United States was founded by Christians and denying their religion would be like denying there beliefs.
41 days ago | Tagged As: yes
you know what, ..... A lot of the people that don't like the "In God We Trust" thing, sure don't mind printing it over and over and over again. (;
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
sure don't mind printing it over and over and over again. The same can be said of church coffers.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
Church coffers? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Yes; It's proper grammer; the spelling is all correct. What's the issue here? X)
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
The question should be: does God or the Supreme Being(s) have anything to do with how we conduct our economies when in reality no one really knows who he or she is? Perhaps if we took ownership of our own affairs, a more courageous motto would be "In US we Trust!"
50 days ago | Tagged As: No
Although what you're saying makes absolute sense, the motto you are proposing sounds too much like ebonics ;)
49 days ago | Tagged As: yes
As long as it bothers atheist, I'm in favor of it being there. Have you ever met an atheist that didn't play a god? Ironic they always have an answer for everything, like they are all-knowing. It just keeps them in their place and that's good enough for me.
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
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I don't think so. Not everybody in America is so faithful to God anymore, it's as simple as that.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
The country was still founded by christians. The founding fathers placed their trust in GOD. Just because its not EVERY american's belief, does not make it justifiable to remove it from their currency.
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
"The country was still founded by christians. The founding fathers placed their trust in GOD." Wrong. Do you know what Article 11 of the The Treaty of Tripoli is? No? Well, check it out.
46 days ago | Tagged As: No
The previous motto was "E pluribus unum", or "Out of many one". It has a much more inclusive feel to it.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
What image/s is found on the currency of the US? The image of a man! And so it would seem that the words: "In God We Trust" must be replaced by "In Man We Trust"
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
No,why should it? The constitution says this is a Religous-Free country. So why put "In God we trust"??? Not everyone beleives in god so why should we have to recite it as a pledge and pay our bills with a peice of paper that too me speaks crap!
50 days ago | Tagged As: No
Friend, saying some thing like that will not mean that you are religious. god is soem one who has no religion adn he is the father of all. the question now is if big bang created the present universe, then who created BIg bang? God himself!
47 days ago | Tagged As: yes
"Friend, saying some thing like that will not mean that you are religious.god is soem one who has no religion adn he is the father of all." Not everyone beleives in the supernatural and a higher being, this god thing is part of religion,the root of religion the cause of religion! "the question now is if big bang created the present universe, then who created BIg bang? God himself!" 1. No one knows for sure what created the universe,the big bang theory is a THEORY. 2.Even if the big bang did create the universe it doesnt mean that some god created it,there is no proof of that. You know who beleives in god/Gods Godesss?? Chrisitans,Catholics,Wiccans,Protistants,Mormons,ETC. and what are those things that i just named called??.... RELIGIONS!!!! SO I ASK WHY??WHY?? Why do I have to recite a pledge that says "under god" when I dont beleive in god???? Why is it that I work very hard for my money and i work very hard to pay my bills and at the end of the day i have to pay it with a REDICULOUS PEACE OF PAPER THAT SAYS "IN GOD WE TRUST" WHEN I DONT F BELEIVE IN GOD????? WE DONT ALL BELEIVE IN GOD! Honestly it annoys the fuck out of me that this is supposed to be a "religous" free country yet the spread this crap around! America is theocracy in disguise.
45 days ago | Tagged As: No
Oooh, you are so going to that naughty place down under, and I don't mean Australia ;) Anyways, no worries, if the economy keeps on getting worse the money wont be worth anything and you'll have to buy everything with gold ;)
45 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Technically no, 1. It wasn't put on there until the 50's 2. The Constitution is pretty clear about where this country is supposed to stand as far as religions go link and since it doesn't say "in god/allah/buddah/krsna/zeus/no one/etc we trust" it would seem to be taking a pretty firm stand on the Judea/Christian side of religion. 3. I don't remember anything in any religious text that would suggest god is a huge fan of money anyway... I mean all the religious people tended to just give it away in those things. So not sure what the point even is. 4. It's just another blatant example of how the religious try to shove their beliefs down everyones' throat, and it's annoying. Doesn't work, buy annoying none the less. All that said though, I use debit, ironically unless I'm in a strip club, I'm sure that's what god meant for his money to be used for after all ._.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
Allah is the Islamic God. Buddha was not worshiped. He was looked up to for his philosophical wisdom. Krsna is a Hindu God. Zeus is a Greek God. So... saying God covers all worship (unless you worship Satan or someone not considered God... which is hardly the case). And if you worship no one... it doesn't matter.
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
"And if you worship no one... it doesn't matter." What?!?! If you worship no one, it definitely matters! If you didn't believe in God, why would you want your money to state otherwise? Based on your past arguments, and your position in this debate, I'm going to assume you're a Christian. From that, is it fair to imply that you wouldn't want the currency changed to say "In Allah We Trust"? Of course it wouldn't be ok, since that wouldn't be inclusive to your religion. So please don't try and justify shoving your religion down my throat because you think I don't care.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
I know I don't insult people on this website and actually look down on it, but you are probably one of the biggest morons on this site. I have NEVER said anything that would imply that I'm religious in any way, shape or form. I have, in fact, attacked religion many times. just because I sometimes like to defend people because I feel that they are being treated unfairly doesn't mean I HAVE to be that person. I guess it was weird for Abolitionist to be white... I mean, why defend blacks if you're not a black? Nice one, dumb ass.
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
I know I don't insult people on this website and actually look down on it, but you are probably one of the biggest morons on this site. Yeah, how dare I assume you're religious just because you support religious phrases on our currency. Stay classy asshole.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
Its not just YOUR currency. It is the country's currency. Which is 70% CHRISTIAN. For the record, I am not a christian.
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Saying God clearly indicates a monotheistic religion, and there's no way you can worm around that fact. Regardless of any of the arguments used to back it up, such as it being used to differentiate from Communists (which is a poor excuse to pass unconstitutional law) or that it actually encompasses all beliefs (which it doesn't), it is clearly the acceptance of a monotheistic God (namely, the Christian god) in complete and utter contempt for the first amendment. "And if you worship no one... it doesn't matter." Well, people disagree with you, so it clearly does matter. It matters that the constitution can be so clearly contravened with such little opposition, and that the tyranny of the majority is so prevalent and has such sway. But God forbid if anyone has the balls to try and curtail the ability to freely buy weapons on the naive thought that civilians could rise up against a highly trained and well funded military, but actually use on each other leading to one of the world's highest firearms death rates. Now THAT'S clearly unconstitutional.
47 days ago | Tagged As: No
Yeah, you know, everyone is a victim. Everyone's rights are being trampled on. In this it is the atheists whose rights are being trampled, in the gun control issue it is the pacifists (or whatever you want to label them). I guess you can either chose to be a victim as often as possible by subscribing to the views held by every activist trying to change the world or chose not to be a victim by siding with the status quo. I prefer the later ;)
47 days ago | Tagged As: No
"Yeah, you know, everyone is a victim. Everyone's rights are being trampled on. In this it is the atheists whose rights are being trampled, in the gun control issue it is the pacifists (or whatever you want to label them)." Well, more specifically it's everyone who doesn't adhere to a monotheistic religion, which is about 20%. Actually, it's everyone's rights, whether they know it or not. America was set up to escape the religious persecution occurring at the time, and your constitution was set up to protect the rights of the people. "I guess you can either chose to be a victim as often as possible by subscribing to the views held by every activist trying to change the world or chose not to be a victim by siding with the status quo." My point was that people cherry pick which parts of the constitution they want to uphold and protect based on their biases and personal beliefs. America is very religious, and will find excuses and poor justifications for why, in this instance, it is okay to go against the constitution's very clear message regarding religion. Yet, because they also really love their guns, the constitution suddenly becomes water-tight with absolutely no leeway. If you're happy picking which bits you like and which you don't then fine; go ahead. Just spare a thought for all of the history that preceded and shaped the document that became the constitution. As a Brit, I admire the spirit and ideals of your constitution, and by allowing one part of it to be so clearly violated, you open yourself up to the parts of it you do like being next to go.
46 days ago | Tagged As: No
It's just another blatant example of how (enter annoying group here) try to shove their beliefs down everyone's throat, and it's annoying. All I can say is, Welcome to the club. There are a lot of people out there that are fed up with those groups on both ends of the bell curve who are trying to shove their beliefs, ideals, whatever, down the throats of those in the middle of the bell curve ;)
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
So you disputed his argument because you're apparently in favor of shoving unconstitutional beliefs down throats?
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Huh? I didn't dispute anyone. What unconstitutional beliefs am I shoving down throats? What are you talking about?
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
The first ammendment to the constitution states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" "Trusting in God" is by definition respecting the establishment of religion. It is therefore unconstitutional and should be removed. And to anyone claiming the founders added it, please read a history book. It was added by Congress in 1955, when racial and political fear mongering was at a peak. They had to rally everyone against the evil baby-eating communists, and stamping God on everything didn't seem to hurt. Of course, since 70% of the population is Christian, adherence to the law will be fudged to suite their preference.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
Actually, what they meant was, the churches will not dictate law. For example, if the church was to declare war on someone, would not mean the government will.
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
I think they meant respecting any one specific religion. Besides, it was just an amendment so we can just amend it back :)
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
there are 3 reasons why: It would make it harder for new forgers to copy the design. It would save just a bit more on printing the dollar, however if it saved just .0005 of a cent on printing, That would average out to be a lot of money over just 5 years. It would make it look bigger.
32 days ago | Tagged As: No
NO! This is a free religion country. FREE ! to put IN GOD WE TRUST on the money that I make, would be just as offensive to religious people if we put IN GOD WE DONT TRUST Separation of church and state should have a major role into this subject
27 days ago | Tagged As: No
Is the phrases, 'In God we trust', really put there with sincerity? I don't think so, or else there wouldn't be homeless people. Because they would believe in the Word of God which says, ( ST. Luke 6:30) "Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again." Or how about this verse, (ST. Luke 6:38) "Give and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again." If you look at that verse it says, "Shall men give into your bosom?" You must give and not horde it to a class or group of people. Then maybe everyone would be happy. Most of all God.
26 days ago | Tagged As: No
Hmmm...., Then maybe we should just let the churches handle charity (not the government).
26 days ago | Tagged As: yes
I think the statement "In God We Trust" is out of date and needs to be updated ASAP. It's just so black and white and old fashioned. Believe it or not, not all Americans are Christians. Yes, it's shocking I know. I think that our currency needs to eliminate that quote. It's not like us non religious people are out to get you Christians, the concept is just getting a little old. More and more people are questioning their religion. Why should something they don't even have faith in be on the money they spend and earn. I say it needs to be taken care of.
8 days ago | Tagged As: No
It's not really even true for most Americans any more. From what I can see, anyway.
41 days ago | Tagged As: No
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