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Debate Score:56
Arguments:52
Total Votes:64
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Should Islam as a faith be banned in the UK in an effort to reduce terrorist threats?

Due to the growing issue in being able to identify a Muslim from a Muslim extremist and the 'wolf in sheep's clothing' philosophy many talk of. Would it not be safer to simply ban a religion which has no desire to integrate in modern society or drop its Sharia Law in favour of the Law of the Land the UK has. If we ban the ideology completely then would we not have to wheedle out extremists?

Ban it

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Don't ban it

Side Score: 35
4 points

Islam should be, and one day will be, completely purged from the face of the Earth. It was founded by a serial killer/mass murdering, habitual offending robber and spread by force and oppression and has never changed. It's goal is world domination and it's desire is a world wide blood bath which must come before it's murderous Messiah returns to force Jews and Christians to convert to Islam or be killed.

Islam is nothing but politicized organized crime and should be outlawed in the free world and the free world should eradicate Islam from the entire world......but that is not going to happen, Jesus Christ Himself will rule the world from Mt. Zion and Islam will be forever subdued and purged from creation and confined in the fire of Hell where it came from.

Amen.

Side: Ban it
zale(46) Disputed
1 point

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. It is far from being abolished.

Side: Don't ban it
Kalamazoo(333) Disputed
1 point

Your assertion about the uncontrolled spread of Islam is irrelevant as FromWithin was suggesting that whilst the faith which spawns so many barbaric atrocities throughout the world in the name of it's God is free to outgrow and/or eclipse all other religions, ''BUT NOT IN THE UNITED KINGDOM''.

Side: Ban it
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

Islam will be eradicated one day, Jesus Christ will rule the world from Mt. Zion, and Islam will be confined in Hell where it came from.

Side: Ban it
darkmagician(2) Disputed
1 point

when you say, "Islam is nothing but politicized organized crime and should be outlawed in the free world and the free world should eradicate Islam from the entire world" do you realize that that same statement of yours is applicable to most of the other religions. Consider Christianity: today it is a politicized institution which wishes the world to follow its steps. Consider Hinduism: They want the people to behave according to their beliefs and are ever ready to strike back violently if spoken against. The problem here is not religion, thus Islam has nothing to do with the term "TERRORISM". It's about a group of people who have misunderstood the beliefs of a religion. Banning Islam will just aggrandize the situation.

Side: Don't ban it
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

You don't know what you are talking about. I suggest you read the four gospels in the Bible and get yourself an education about Jesus Christ and stop talking like a parrot which was trained by puppets.

Side: Ban it
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

Islam has nothing to do with the term "TERRORISM"? Hahahaha........you don't know anything about the Krayon's teachings of jihad, do you? Are you another one of these clowns who bury their head in the sand with their opinion showing out the back end while they talk out the back end completely ignorant of reality and bound and determined to remain head down under the sand?

Side: Ban it
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

Catholicism is not Christianity, Catholicism is a politicized organization with world dominance intentions. Catholicism is a pagan religion masking itself as Christian. The only time I have sympathy for Catholicism is when Muslims and/or Hindus are killing them because they call themselves Christian. In that, the Catholics are invoking the name of my Savior and the Muslims and Hindus hate them for it, so that while the Catholics who are pagans are being persecuted for the name of Christ, because of His name I respect them for that. Catholicism has always persecuted real Christians who would not bow to it's pagan dictates. It has a bloody history, Islam roots are Catholic and when Islam revolted it is a good thing that the Crusaders stomped them enough to prevent them from conquering Europe....but now they are back, infiltrating Europe as "refugees", and soon coming to a place near you. The whole earth will be filled with violence exactly as the Bible foretold in the end times, and your spoiled tail will be singing a different tune when the Moozies get their claws on you.

Islam should be completely outlawed in the United States, it's unholy leader's unholy book teaches subjugation and murder, it is an incitement to violence to gain power by oppression, and like other organized crime factions such as Mafia and outlaw motorcycle clubs they should be completely shut down, all mosques in America should be torn down and their grounds sprayed with pig blood.

Side: Ban it
NowASaint(1380) Clarified
1 point

Any gatherings which support the Crayon book of Islamic jihad written by the murderer, robber, child molester iiar evil bastard Mohammed should be considered treasonous against the United States based on the fact that their guidebook teaches oppression, murder, and subjugation by any means necessary and terrorism is taught as the way to gain the best rewards......it's just plain evil, always has been and always will be and one day it will be confined in the fire of Hell where it came from and it will never again disturb the living.

Side: Ban it
3 points

One things for sure, and that is if you are, or contemplating being, a criminal go to the United Kingdom'

An ever increasing percentage of the police budget is being diverted towards 'counter-terrorism' activities with the ensuing reduction in mainstream law enforcement.

Think, or as most of you dummies don't think, I will rephrase and say, try to consider the worldwide cost of anti-terrorist measures.

All the travel disruption, the long snaking queues at airports with the 10s of 1000s of security police could be dramatically reduced if there was an embargo on all travel of Muslims throughout western countries.

The U.K. anti-terrorist budget is programmed to be increased by 30% between now and 2020.

What this equates to in pounds sterling I don't know, but what I do know is that it represents the cost of a lot of doctors, nurses and hospital beds.

All thanks to our Muslim brothers and our white livered politicians.

Side: Ban it
2 points

My attitude would be to ban it as I find it has no place in the UK and given almost any country which is predominantly Muslim has incredible issues preventing them from becoming a civilised, well rounded society as well as having a complete clash of principles with western ideologies in terms of homosexuality and equality.

Side: Ban it
2 points

MAFIA DON'S OFFER TO DEAL WITH TERRORISTS .

Former Mob Boss makes an offer for terrorists
Side: Ban it

I personally believe that it shouldnt be banned but there should be restrictions for them or there will be as the people in the UK are growing fearful of them .

Side: Ban it
5 points

You could never ban any religion from a nation unless you are a dictatorship.

The UK is living the nightmare of what Americans warned of. Their socialistic bleeding heart open borders has led to so many Muslims in their nation.

Trump is trying to prevent that from happening in America but Democrats keep trying to stop him. They see future votes.

I would suggest that every Government should shut down any Mosque that teaches to hate and kill non Islamic people.

They shoud kick out of their nation any person who is not willing to accept the West's beliefs, Christian beliefs, Atheist beliefs, etc.

No person deserves to live in a nation if they refuse to live peaceably with all the people, no matter their beliefs.

The Left in America refuse to hold people accountable for their actions, just as in the UK. Democrats have no problem with illegal immigrants and are weak when it comes to vetting possible terrorist refugees.

Side: Don't ban it
Antrim(1287) Clarified
5 points

Not only the U.K., but all the citizens of the liberal European countries will have to bear the nightmarish hell of living under the constant threat of imported Muslim terrorism.

The E.U., Mafioso ( the Brussels Parliament) are preparing to impose heavy financial fines on those member states which do not accept their allocated number of Muslim immigrants.

The terrible truth is that Muslim terrorism has become a way of life for most Europeans and it's going to increase in frequency and severity.

The Muslims exist in most European countries in their millions and they've established a significant and irreversible presence which will ensure bloody and destructive civil unrest for the foreseeable future.

Side: Ban it
2 points

Although I would not phrase it the way you did or take it the ramifications as far as in your post I do generally agree with your concept that "no person deserves to live in a nation if they refuse to live peaceably with all the people, no matter their beliefs."

Side: Don't ban it
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

You were doing SO WELL until the last two lines! So you believe everyone should accept the beliefs of others ... unless they are liberal beliefs?

The "left" is trying to stop Trump from insuring HATE from a "YUGE" world religion, not get future votes! The way HE'LL get future votes is by letting his Education Secretary muck up the education system, make it impossible for people to get a good education, because, people with no college education are the ones that put this idiot in office! Definitely NOT "immigrants"! "Birds of a feather......"

Side: Ban it
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
1 point

I wish I could say you ever do well, but you don't! You keep acting the Liberal fool like over in Europe, and then scratch your heads why things are so screwed up.

Side: Ban it
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

Crazy AL Muslims are a terrorist threat can you just not grasp that reality ?????????

Side: Ban it
3 points

If one bans any ideology, no matter how odious, they are accepting that government has a right to tell it's citizens how and what to think. A government with the power to decide what is and isn't appropriate to think and believe is the most totalitarian state one can conceive of.

To make a pragmatic argument, though, this would simply radicalize moderate Muslims as they would view their faith as under attack by the U.K. By outlawing their religion, we would have made ourselves a clear enemy of Islam as an ideology. This would result in more terrorist attacks, not less.

Side: Don't ban it

You don't ban the religion. You quit taking in people from culturally problematic countries. We know which countries most terrorists come from. Quit taking people from those countries. Don't let them into your country in the first place.

Side: Don't ban it
2 points

Hello:

If my government told me that what I KNOW is dangerous and illegal, I'd want to KNOW MORE..

But, that's just me. You can stay home, though.. I'll fight for your rights FOR you..

excon

Side: Don't ban it
2 points

It would be a mistake to oppress the Islamic faith. Islam is not a religion that encourages terrorism, nor does it tolerate it. True Islamist followers do not believe in terrorism as a solution, but as a problem, like most of the world does. Another common problem I see in arguments such as this is the inability for people to say why their religion is more pure or blameless than other beliefs, such as the Islamic belief. You can not disregard someone's belief because of what other people who claim to be a part of it have done. The Catholic church did some horrible things back in the day, but banning it is not a debate, because nobody would support that. Regardless of the flaws of other people's faith, people still try to say that Islam is evil. Try and find a religion with a large following that has never been linked to some horrible scandal. You will not be able to.

Side: Don't ban it
1 point

How would it reduce terrorist attacks ? It would actually increase terrorist attacks as Muslims would take to the streets if a ban was implemented.

Even if a ban was implemented it wouldn't work as people would still practice their faith privately because one does not give up their religion because of some government ban .

Side: Don't ban it
1 point

When we talk about faith, it is something that every person has a right to chose. Whether you have faith in Christianity, in Islam or something else, faith has nothing to do with terrorism.Its not the faith which is to be pointed at, but it is the polluted minds.

Consider a city of people of the same faith,where one person murders a handful of people, so this act can also be termed as terrorism.

This guy is a terrorist and deserves to be punished, but not the whole community, who has faith in the same God, has to be punished.One cannot punish the whole community for the wrong doings of just some polluted minds.

God has made all of us to be united, but just if some people are evil, doesn't mean that all are like that.

I believe that many terrorist attacks where done by the people who had faith in Islam, but not everyone, who has faith in Islam, is a terrorists. In fact the ones who promoted terrorism were unaccepted in Muslim Society.

And its just not USA, or UK getting terrorist attacks, but every single part of the world, every country is getting attacked by some other country.So we cannot conclude that just the people belonging to a particular religion are terrorists.If only we could be open minded and open our arms for people of every faith, we would never even know if we were of different religion, we would live in harmony, we would live united. Every religion teaches us to love mankind.There is no verse in the Quran that promotes terrorism, not even in any other religious scriptures. It's only the minds of some handful people, which are polluted, not everyone.

No religion promotes rape, but yet people do it. No religion promotes hatred, but yet people do it. No religion promotes adultery, but yet people do it. So what is it that is to be blamed? People with polluted minds!

I have seen many Christians with Muslim friends, but were those Muslims terrorists? No they weren't.

The action that a country should make is not to eliminate every person having faith in Islam, but to solve every issue with talks.

Actually we are all the victims of democracy and politics.It is not the common people who created hatred, but the people who rule the countries. And only the common people have to suffer, be it not only the ones who were killed in it, the ones who lost their loved ones, but also the ones who had no link with terrorism;the Muslim community.

Side: Don't ban it
1 point

Banning Islam will only anger extremists even more, which will motivate them into doing more terrorist attacks. We shouldn't allow the fear of terrorism to affect our laws but there already many Muslims in the UK anyway and banning their faith will not make them give it up, especially if they are extremists. We can take the step of banning Muslims from entering the country but as of now I think that is all that will be effective unless someone can come up with a really whack idea (let's pray they do).

Side: Don't ban it
1 point

That's EXACTLY what the Islamic radicals (terrorists) would like! They would turn it to a "hate move" against ALL Muslims .... like Trumps travel ban ... and use it on their recruitment posts. Smart! (At least smarter than those stupid enough to blame a whole world wide religion for the sins of a few!) Like ALL wars, it takes TWO. (And TWO religions will work VERY well, as they have for centuries!)

Side: Don't ban it
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

Crazy AL you just stated Muslims are terrorist and are you to stupid to understand your own words ?

Side: Ban it
1 point

This won't help anything, at all.

Side: Don't ban it
1 point

Islam is a belief. Banning Islam as a faith just makes people practice the belief in privacy. The problem at core is not to abolish the belief but some of its factors which persuade a part of the society to behave in a negative manner. You cannot expect 99.999% of the population to give up their beliefs because of the other 0.001% of the population. The selected population who practices illegal activities does so because they've misunderstood Islam as a religion. If you ban the practice of their beliefs, then they will come out more powerful next time because they will have nothing to lose.

Side: Don't ban it