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40
Duh Nah
Debate Score:65
Arguments:62
Total Votes:70
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Should Islam reform to stop people abusing it?

Duh

Side Score: 25
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Nah

Side Score: 40
1 point

As long as we have religions we'll have wars. Yes, Islam needs to reform more than most, apparently. I am not well informed about Islam but it seems to be stuck in the Dark Ages more than some. The three Abrahamic religions will NEVER see eye to eye, never have peace between them. A shame. Time to turn to science/ drop the wars of mythology!

Side: Duh
2 points

As long as we have religions we'll have wars.

Most wars and almost all genocides of one's own people have been started by people who mocked religion. Pol Pot, Stalin, and Mao's atheism didn't seem to be the magic cure to your scenario. As a matter of fact, it seemed to escalate the problem. I know you have a very strong cognitive dissonance, but that doesn't change reality or facts.

Side: Nah
Atrag(5193) Disputed
1 point

I've noticed you keep telling people they suffer cognitive dissonance... from the context it seems like you don't really know what it means

Side: Duh
1 point

People will always find reasons to rage wars and religion is one of the least cited reasons for conflict.

However, whilst Christianity preaches a peace which it has never achieved, Islam comes unashamedly with sword in hand preaching a doctrine of intolerance and contempt for all non-believers, the infidels.

Yes, Islam needs to at least find a way of rewording some of the more aggressive passages of it's scriptures.

Side: Duh
excon(4376) Disputed
1 point

Hello C:

I tried to read the bible once.. But, I couldn't get past all the smiting going on.. Maybe you Christians should temper that BEFORE you call for other religions to temper theirs..

excon

Side: Nah
Cocopops Disputed
1 point

The thread was on Islam.

Why did you introduce Christianity.

Why did you not make reference to, or comparisons with, the other popular faiths?

Who said I was a Christian?

As it happens I am not.

If you or anyone else raises a topic on a specific religion and I feel motivated to express my opinion I will do so, but I shall restrict my comments to the specified religious denomination.

Side: Duh
1 point

Yes. God should use his beam of light to write an update to it. And one of the martyrs should come back long enough to say the 77 virgins are ugly and smell like old fish.

Meanwhile he also should update the Bible, and he should state that it literally is not to be taken literally. For proof he'll have it written down through a legless Cherokee veteran with a robotic arm. People will get the hint very quickly that you have to take it with a big grain of salt.

Side: Duh
2 points

Firstly, the practice of Islam is based upon the Quran which is a sacred book, so you can't just change what's in it and expect people to follow the new rules you have set for them. Hence it doesn't seem possible to reform Islam, it's just absurd.

Secondly, I think the fact that people are abusing Islam has not much to do with the religion itself, but rather with the people themselves, who need something to legitimate their beliefs and who are given the opportunity to use a religion to rebel against society and let out their anger.

Therefore, I think reforming Islam to stop the abuse is not the solution, because the main values of Islam-or of any other religion-have nothing to do with the awful things that people are doing in its name.

Side: Nah
2 points

Reform to stop people abusing it ? Who is abusing it ?

Members of ISIS and other such hard line followers of Islam are actually following the direct teachings of Islam as written , people such as this are not abusing Islam but are followers of what the hate filled Quran commands them to do in Allahs name .

Side: Nah
1 point

If they do then those who reform will be called infidels and the real Muslims will actually kill those who reform, so it won't happen.

Side: Nah
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

If they do then those who reform will be called infidels and the real Muslims will actually kill those who reform, so it won't happen.

Anybody who believes Islam teaches people to kill has absolutely no understanding of Islam.

Side: Duh
Srom(12156) Disputed
3 points

There are many references to the Quran which says otherwise. Going off their book.

Side: Nah
1 point

Anybody who believes Islam teaches people to kill has absolutely no understanding of Islam.

You don't know the first thing about Islam. STFU.

Side: Nah
-1 points

Hello L:

There are 1.5 BILLION Muslims on the planet.. If they were abusing it, we'd be dead.

excon

Side: Nah
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
3 points

2ND largest religion and you Leftist continue to show that you support religion but somehow you seem opposed to religion so how does that work ?

Side: Duh
Antrim(999) Disputed
3 points

It should be recognized that the cockeyed, irrational blustering from the anti American, pro Muslim terrorism communist is nothing more than futile wishful thinking.

Note of caution there Abdul;- 'you should be careful what you wish for', as in the most unlikely and undesirable event of a Muslim vs West confrontation the head hacking back shooting Muslims would be annihilated on their homeground and, along with their fleas and clanging pots and pans expelled from the western nations which they currently infest.

Side: Duh
1 point

The only reason we aren't dead is that we created the nukes and got the technology first. Without them or if they ever get them, we ARE all going to be dead.

Side: Duh