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Should Marijuana be legalized?

Marijuana
"Informal conversation" on medical marijuana (seattletimes.nwsource.com)

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15 points

The medical evidence in support is very overwhelming, and Hemp is one of the most sustainable crops grown throughout history.

The government could earn billions in taxes, shut down a black market, regulate quality, we can make everything from textiles to paper to carbon fibre out of hemp.

"In 1916, USDA Bulletin No. 404, reported that one acre of cannabis hemp, in annual rotation over a 20-year period, would produce as much pulp for paper as 4.1 acres of trees being cut down over the same 20-year period. This process would use only 1/4 to 1/7 as much polluting sulfur-based acid chemicals to break down the glue-like lignin that binds the fibers of the pulp, or even none at all using soda ash. The problem of dioxin contamination of rivers is avoided in the hemp paper making process, which does not need to use chlorine bleach (as the wood pulp paper making process requires) but instead safely substitutes hydrogen peroxide in the bleaching process. ... If the new (1916) hemp pulp paper process were legal today, it would soon replace about 70% of all wood pulp paper, including computer printout paper, corrugated boxes and paper bags."

From http://www.jackherer.com/

$100,000 Challenge to Prove Us Wrong!

If all fossil fuels and their derivatives, as well as trees for paper and construction, were banned in order to save the planet, reverse the Greenhouse Effect and stop deforestation;

then there is only one known annually renewable natural resource that is capable of providing the overall majority of the world's paper and textiles; meet all of the world's transportation, industrial and home energy needs, while simultaneously reducing pollution, rebuilding the soil and cleaning the atmosphere all at the same time...

and that substance is the same one that has done it before . . CANNABIS HEMP!

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
14 points

It should be legalized. We need to strive for a rational legal code. In relation to tobacco and alcohol, two of the legal drugs, cannabis is hands down the least harmful. It does not have the physically addictive properties of either alcohol or tobacco, cannabis users can stop anytime with withdrawal symptoms on par with or less than that of caffeine withdrawal. More than that, tens of thousands of people die every year from lung cancer and alcohol related accidents and illnesses. If your an alcoholic you can die if you just stop drinking. No one to my knowledge has ever been killed from smoking or quiting cannabis. In addition, cannabis has not been shown to have the carcinogenic effects that tobacco has. Cannabis has even been shown to promote new brain cell development, and its users report wide ranging benefits. The Netherlands model shows that soft drugs can be legalized and it actually improves the society. We need to end the propaganda and misinformation campaign, bring more reason and fairness to our legal code, and legalize cannabis.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

I'm sold on your argument. One up vote for you. I need new brain cells! Just ask almost anyone on this site ;)

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
12 points

As the dutch example shows, legalizing marijuana doesn't come with any significant negative effects to society. Instead, the government has an additional source of income from taxes and saves significant amounts of money that is currently being spent on arresting, prosecution and locking up non violent marijuana users.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
4 points

that's cool, except the tax part. Why is government owed a tax for the growth or sale of this particular plant? We don't have special taxes for coffee, which is about the equivalent in overall social effect and harm-potential (that is, almost zero).

There's nothing that justifies that marijuana be subjected to anything other than standard sales taxes.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

I totally agree. In addition to this argument, marijuana should be legal for many reasons. It would be financially beneficial for farmers to grow marijuana in their fields in the U.S. Instead of relying on prescription drugs, marijuana helps with medical conditions concerning: Glaucoma, arthritis, cancer, pain, nausea, AIDS, Multiple Sclerosis, Brain Injury/Stroke, Anti-Tumor Effects, Asthma, Epilepsy, Schizophrenia, Migraine, and eating disorders. It also helps with increased intelligence and focused attention. Marijuana should have been legalized when alcohol was legalized.

3 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
8 points

i actually wrote a persuasive essay on this not too long ago for my English class and i got a perfect score on it so i thought I'd share it with you all.

The Decision is Ours

Marijuana is a THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) containing plant which is illegal and discriminated against in all but a handful of countries. A number of the common effects of this plant include a euphoric feeling, stress reduction, deep thinking, pain relief, increased appetite, and a few negative effects such as lightheadedness or confusion. It has been argued for years whether the cannabis plant is a drug or simply a natural herb like any other with stronger side effects, many people considering both herb and drug to be the most logical answer. The earliest it is recorded to be utilized, orally and smoked, is 2700 B.C. in China and India, having been outlawed in the United States in the early 1900’s. Uses such as religious purposes, medicines, and relaxation; should marijuana be legalized? My belief is that there would be no harm in this change of law, and the economy would prosper from it.

The First Amendment stated in the United States Constitution Bill of Rights reads:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Religious peoples, for example Rastafaris, Shintos, Hinus, Buddhists, Sufis, Zoroastrians, Bantus, and many other sects, have traditions that require ganja as a part of their lifestyles and sacred ceremonies. All of these customs had been established long before the banning of the plant. So when prohibiting marijuana is that not taking away their first amendment right of freedom to exercise their religion?

Before its ban, marijuana was a major active ingredient in 40-50 percent of medicines. Nowadays it could be used to replace at least 10-20 percent of medicines. Marijuana has hundreds of proven uses from treating nausea, pain, multiple sclerosis (MS), glaucoma, and asthma to stress reduction and cancer therapy. If you have glaucoma, the third leading cause of blindness brought about by increased pressure in the eyeball, this herbs effects reduce pressure in the eyeballs and though other medications can be used for treatment they tend to lose efficiency over time. With MS the normal functioning of the nerves in the brain and spinal cord are disrupted, harsh debilitating attacks that come and go along with many uncomfortable symptoms that lead to eventual disability occur, the use of cannabis in this situation treats a number of the symptoms as well as delays the progression of the disease.

In the United States alone every 15 minutes someone is killed in an alcohol related accident, this is approximately 50 percent of all deadly car collisions. Just about half of industrial deaths and injuries can be linked to alcohol consumption. Along with those statistics four in ten criminals and three in four of domestic violence offenders have reported to have alcohol as the reason for their violent behavior. On an annual basis in the US alcohol kills about 80,000 people, as for marijuana - there has never been a recorded death due to marijuana, you are more likely to die from an overdose of asprin. In fact, as far as we know it is impossible to overdose on marijuana and contrary to the common belief it does not influence violence or crimes. Even all of the illegal drugs put together are responsible for a small percentage of deaths compared to tobacco, is it really fair that these more harmful and fatal substances are legal but marijuana is not?

During the rise of the Rastafaris in Jamaica a man named Leonard Howell owned a large amount of land he called Pinnacle. Pinnacle was designed as a place for Leonard and hundreds of his Ras Tafari followers to live separated from the accusing eyes of the public who viewed them as criminals and thought their ideologies to be absurd, most of his followers had been poor peasants but this all changed with the growth of their ganja plantation. They had grown and sold so much marijuana that they built shops and were able to care for themselves with plenty of extra money, the rest of the valley eventually depending on them for necessities such as food and the herb. In California marijuana is already the largest cash crop and the UN has estimated that 2.5 percent of the world’s population smokes cannabis, with cannabis legal and the government regulating it like every other product of America our economy would thrive.

To put it simply, the United States does not outlaw “junk” food and vending machines simply because it is bad for you, although they may be unhealthy it is the individuals choice on whether they want to consume them or not. It is the same with marijuana, though there are few minor health risks, it is the individuals’ responsibility to look at the pros and cons and make the decision they want. Should marijuana be legalized? My answer is yes, whether for religious uses, medical reasons, just recreational purposes, or merely because the government should not have the right to dictate the lives of their citizens if it is not harming society, the legalization of marijuana would produce no destruction to our social order and the economy would expand.

There are other reasons I think marijuana should be legalized, these are just the main ones. Hope you all enjoyed it =)

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
7 points

Face it, the real reason pot is illegal is so 1) cops have increased ability to harass minorities and lower class people, and 2) profits from alcohol and pharmacy are artifically protected. These reasons do not justify the loss of freedom of millions of Americans.

1 out of 3 Americans have tried marijuana (and that's just those who will admit it.) Should we really imprison a third of the country?

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
6 points

Marijuana should be legalized BECAUSE it is dangerous.

If 'dangerous' is the over-all term for anything that might shunt one from his formal, initial, eligible state of his body. An imaginary state of fully-functioning, flawless, ideal body. Structured by psychology, biology, culture and all kinds of institutions, to distinguish sanity from lunacy, health from illness, intelligence from ignorance. Though these are not the bad guys, of course, it's just that marijuana does change you, it does change your body, the way you think, thus the dangerous mark is understandable.

The 'high' effect is an abnormal state that will never fit it with the standards. in fact, it changes people so much they often consider upper spiritual intervention and skip their way to the bible, only to find (or intentionally reinterpret) juicy quotes of Jesus puffing away - THESE are the bad guys. These people underestimate the abyss between themselves and the machine that produced the metaphors they use to explain their experience.

The data field of it's effects is radically shaped by the method of learning it, thus a non-user and a do-user are both biased, the argument between the two always hides the law underneath it, which separates them even more. The point is that some day the do-user won't have the need of such self-deceit, just like most of us manage to live without defying the meaning of life.

Stigma dissolving is not necessary, maybe not even possible, the stigma is not a merit of either side of the coin, it is the coin itself, the need to justify and 'OK' stamping one's inevitable position on either side demands the improvisation of rational evidence of truth.

Once a full legalization is executed, there might be a radical separation and a birth-approval for new culture, new moral, new rationalism that neutralizes the holiness around such a nihilistic notion of 'reasonable behavior', new thought, new language, new engagement with whatever is or is not considered reality. While the non-user will embrace the whole coin to morph it into a monopoly of the whole opinion spectrum within the data field of marijuana study, and will create yet another standard, unifying abstainers as much as absence of activity can be conceivable as a common denominator.

'Users' will consider the activity as we all consider sugar, it just won't be considered at all.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
4 points

Very very good argument. Stav, you are favored and friended for this.

I still hold a conservative view towards it though. I don't mind the people doing it illegality, in fact the legality of it (or almost anything else for that matter) has little to do with my opinion.

For those who are almost blindly opposing because of their fear of change or the likes, would find this post to be extremely helpful. I wish I could double vote you up.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

Could the same happen with the legalization of same sex marriage? I mean,

"Once a full legalization is executed, there might be a radical separation and a birth-approval for new culture, new moral, new rationalism that neutralizes the holiness around such a nihilistic notion of 'reasonable behavior', new thought, new language, new engagement with whatever is or is not considered reality."

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
3 points

A) It is already in process.

B) I wouldn't think about a gay revolution as passionately as I do with drugs and the freedom of thought because no one can stop you from picking your favorite hole to love, and marriage is over romanticized paper work, authorized love. So the real problem is elsewhere, I'd say jealousy, whatever that may be thought of as sacred in the whole marriage thing is the undergoing conversation with the hottest couple around Genesis.

And, you know, back then you needed a man and a woman, to make a baby.

Alternative ceremony should be considered, maybe some LSD.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
4 points

I mean, its not like its one of the ones that can kill you, any related deaths are from judgment impairment and thats no worse than alchohol.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

People have the right to do what they want in America, so long as they don't harm others. Furthermore, if they want to do that, there is punishment enough.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

Victimless crime. Marijuana has negative effects like any drug, but causal use is practically harmless. It's a matter of personal liberty.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
4 points

of course marijuana shoule be legalized. come on, reality check here. more people are gettin in trouble for using, so why not make it legal. we all gonna use it anyway

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
3 points

I still have yet to see a medical report declaring a man dead from an overdose of THC. Provide a link showing me that marijuana specifically killed a man and I'll leave quietly.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

Hellz ya! Share some bud, bro!

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
Bradf0rd(1422) Disputed
0 points

People like you.

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
3 points

Yes. Prohibition doesn't work. The most effective way to make something irresistible is to forbid it.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
3 points

Marijuana being illegal is part of the reason why people do it. It is a stupid reason, but a reason nonetheless. Legalizing marijuana, could potentially lower the number of users. The thrill of the chance of being caught gives them a high that's intensified by the drug. It outta just be legalized, and the government can tax the hell out of it like with cigarettes. It's your choice if you're going to do it or not.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
3 points

It shouldnt have been outlawed in the first place. Its not the goverments job to tell me what natural and organic items I can put in my body.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
3 points

Prohibition has been unsuccessful many times in history, just look at what happened during alcohol prohibition. It causes crime to go up because of the fact that it is illegal. The black market profits go way up because you can't legally obtain it, which causes violent crime to increase because of the existence of the black market. Prohibiting drugs also makes it "forbidden fruit" and taboo, which is a big reason a high number of teenagers and young adults use drugs.

Doing drugs is a victimless crime and it should be a person's choice what they put in their own body, not the government's choice.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
3 points

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh come on guys then the government could make millions of dollars n it...

And people who need it for medicinal purposes could actually feel better...

Don't you see the irony of it all???

Pot is not a gateway drug.

Sharon

~The Baby Boomer Queen~

babyboomeradvisorclub.com

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

I totally agree with you!!!! Marijuana is NOT a gateway drug. Personally, I think, our economy would improve drastically if marijuana is legalized.

3 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

i believe marijuana should be legalised becuase then people can make there mistakes and realise why it was not legalised in the first place. making it i have two sides for this. should be legalised for people who just need to relax

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

"The only problems I've ever had with drugs are from the people who try to keep me from using them" -Dr. Thompson

I personally perform a job everyday that requires my full attention at all times for other's safety, and statistics show that my job is twice as life threatening as a police officer's. And somehow every day I'm able to do this without incident. Imagine that.

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

Did you forget to say you do it on weed?

Did you forget because of weed?

Do you have any weed?

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

yes because native Americans used it as a medicine in the days.

Amsterdam you can smoke pot there why not Australia?

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

yes - the demonization of weed needs to stop. i know conservatives really aren't ready for it - they'd rather have society as a bunch of alcoholics...

reefer madness

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

Does anybody know how much the American economy would grow if Marijuana was legalized? Listen, it's not the government's problem if people are irresponsible and mess up their lives with Marijuana, right? The government would make an enormous amount of many off of all the Marijuana sales, and we would be on our way back up, and I sincerely hope that President Obama decides to legalize it once he takes care of the war. (By the way, I still can't get over the fact that I can call him President Obama now. Yes!)

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

The Legalization of marijuana would lower are crime rates in the United States of America by at least 15 to 20%. A lot of the US citizens have either used, grew, or sold Marijuana and have gotten caught by the police if we legalized Marijuana we could put restrictions on the use growth and sells of marijuana so that he people who sell grow and use it can sell grow and use it just under certain restrictions.

4 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

Yeah...................If the president says so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

After 720 days and countless of arguments (most of which I have not read) to the contrary, I still think like, yeah man ;)

4 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

Yes because it is a plant not a drug but if you set it on fire there are sidefects.

3 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

yes, for one simple reason.

free country. if people wanna fuck up their lives with drugs, let them. hell, maybe they won't die or lose their job. the point is, not our fuckin' business on how someone decides to take the edge off.

making drugs an illegal business just gets more people killed anyway. imagine what would happen to the drug lords if corporations took over the drug market.

basically: "got a problem? fix it with capitalism"

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

Are people still responding to this?

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

I'm definitely for the legalization of marijuana, but there's something people need to realize.

Just like with Tobacco, when Cannabis is legalized and FDA regulated, I can promise you the commercialized Marijuana product will be just as laden with polutants, chemicals and pure garbage as cigarettes are. It will become more expensive because there will be a tax on it, just as there is with tobacco and alcohol. It will become another government controlled commodity.

That's why it's not legal.

People die from drinking home made alcohol/moonshine. That has to be regulated, period. Tobacco isn't addictive and isn't as satisfying or nerve calming without all the additives, hence it's alteration from natural form.

Marijuana is grown in backyards all over the world and needs no alteration from government entities for it to be popular or effective. There's no logical way for the United States government to intervene, control and PROFIT (key words here) from the potential Marijuana industry.

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

When it comes to my point of view on the legalization of Marijuana I believe that there is no reason what so ever for it to remain illegal.

I'm not going to go into detail explaining what many have already said, about the medical uses, stress relief, etc, but when it comes to the profit that could be made this way, an enormous amount of opportunities open up.

First thing that comes to mind with the legal sale of Marijuana is tax. Why have a tax other then sales tax? Hell, why not? Are you not willing to pay that extra amount to be able to legally smoke? Is that extra tax not worth being able to sit in clear view and toke it up without worrying about going to jail if you're caught? Of course it is!

Realistically, we could add the Cigarette tax from each state onto a package of Joints. 4 average rolled joints at $10 + tax. Sure, you're getting slightly less than a dime's worth, but again, that extra amount is more than worth it.

If marijuana was to be considered for legalization, and lets say they were to use Texas as the Beta-State, a package of 4 joints would cost $11.41 after tax. Lets say Joe goes through the average dime in about 2 days. That's 178 dime bags in a year. As of now that would cost him $1780, and it would cost $2030.98 if it was legalized and taxed. That is $250.98 more than he would normally pay for a slightly less amount of weed. About .1 gram per package to be exact, on average.

That is $250.98 in profit to the government, in 1 year, from 1 man. That means slightly under 4000 people (3985) would allow the government to make a profit of one million dollars.

Did I mention that is in addition to the money saved yearly on arrest and court costs? Imagine this... 6458 (adjusted for the California cigarette tax) people in California smoke marijuana once it has become legalized. That's $1 million in profit, in addition to saving the $100 million that it is estimated to spend yearly on arrest and court costs. I'm failing to see the problem with this idea.

On a large scale, I think I read somewhere about 10% of the American population admitted to smoking marijuana. The last estimated count was about 303.8 million people in the US, so 30.38 million have admitted to regular use. The average tax on cigarettes around the US is about $.53 per pack, at even just 1 dime per week, equals to an average profit of $837.27 million dollars annually.

This estimate does not include the millions of Americans who did not admit to their regular use, nor to the hundreds of millions that would be saved on arrest and court costs.

In addition, think of all the new job openings of adding several large scale marijuana plantations. Hundreds of job possibilities open up, allowing the percentage of jobless adults to decrease. Hell, make a few new college courses about Marijuana History, Growing Marijuana, the Cultivation of Marijuana. Easily opening up new job opportunities for people to strive for. Sure, it's not the perfect job, but if you can convince people to go to school for it, and make a college degree required to work on the plantation, I bet it would convince hundreds of students to return to school with their career choice in mind.

All of these are just estimates and I have no way of knowing any exacts. But as my estimates are reasonable, and pretty close to being exact with the information I've researched, even if it didn't provide an adequate source to replace paper products, or medical uses, or any of the other dozen + things that marijuana is useful for, the profit in taxes and the annual savings in court costs and the job opportunities more than justify the legalization of marijuana.

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

Not only would we make all that money in tax revenue but people would be so high that they wouldn't care about the economy anymore ;)

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

The legalization of marigunana will come with pros and cons. At the end of the day whether it is legal or not people have the choice to have marijuana. They should legalize it and control it how they have alchohol established.

2 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

Good things if we legalized it (in the U.S.):

If it was legal the government could regulate it and it could be dispensed safely. This would stop people from dying when their drugs have been modified in an unhealthy way. Second, we could tax the heck out of it. It's not the best solution, but it would help curb the government's budget problems. What about Industrial Hemp? That would help create a billion dollar industry, hence more jobs, and more money if the US exports and or imports it to different countries.

Hemp is good for as a alternative fuel, food, clothing, paper, etc. That would help our environment greatly. Why cut down trees that takes over 80 years to fully grow while you can use hemp that fully grows per season?What about the waste of tax payers money called the war on drugs? It's a completely useless program that helps create more chaos by making drug cartels being stinking rich, do you really want the drug cartels to have such power?

Bad things:

Marijuana is proven to cause depression and change brain patterns in odd ways among other things. But there are many worse drugs. However if Marijuana was legalized there would be a push to legalize other drugs. Things like Meth and Estacy could be legalized, then we could say goodbye to civilization as we know it. Even if other drugs werent legalized after, Marijuana its still a gateway to a high feeling. And many, too many, will want to move on to larger highs, to drugs which have undoubtedly negative effects, to drugs which will annihilate your ability to think and function.

So, in the end, my thoughts are not to legalize it, but to decriminalize it. It could be decriminalized for say, a personal amount. If you're caught over that amount you receive a fine. Charging and convicting people for personal amounts is a waste of tax money and court time. Nobody has ever died directly related to marijuana. Nor does is it cause much society problems unlike alcohol and hard drugs.

2 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

Do not be fooled by the multi-party politricks system which is often tied to selfish gain and short term ends. Which like the ancient kingdom of babylon seeks to impose its views by force at the expense of the majority to benefit the minority. Many of those in position of power to regulate laws are often helped along the way financially by the fat pockets of alcohol and tobacco lobbyists, whose industry continues to thrive because of their economic dominance which is being used to suppress the tree of life (marijuana), which if became legal would affect the corruption drastically on alcohol and tobacco which have been proven by medical research to pose a far greater threat to the health and well being of the population in comparison to the the healing herb of cannabis. So no I will not drink the cup of devils, but will continue to partake of the healing herb of marijuana which makes life pleasant even in the most trying conditions, for the life experience itself has manifested my legal right protected through the Charter of the United Nations which upholds the noblest aspirations of man without any distinction of race, sex , language and religion. My right is my right, just as a man has a right to drink wine or beer, which consequently is often brewed with Humulus lupulus (the hop plant) which only it and cannabis are of the same herbaceous plant group of Cannabaceae.

'Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise' Proverbs 20:1

"Since in the scale of creation all men are born equal, it is imperitive that all laws should be equitable in their application, for what is the foundation of freedom and the reasons that men cherish it, if they are not equal before the law. The answer is clear to all of you." HIM Haile Selassie I

2 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

Everyonethinks we are hippies 4 doin it....no how many ppl go and shoot up a block or rob whenthey smoke marijuana.....not a dame soul!!!!

2 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

i know i have different view on different things, and many people dont agree but it is my personal belief and if i cared enough i would quit. Really wish people would get over this whole "marijuana thing" because its already legalized in three states and soon it will be nationally legalized, If you dont think alchohol is a bad then get over marijuana, read the good actual facts not the one sided short facts and you will find there our many good things from the plant and some bad things, but same things where in alchohol it only damages your liver and makes you feel good untill the next day PLEASE GET THE FACTS

1 year ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

Marijuana= Zero Deaths: Illegal

Cigarettes = Number 1 death in America: Legal

Look at the facts

1 year ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

Marijuana,is good,Mkay?It'll make you an out of the box thinker and calm you downnn Mkay?Now lets talk about calmin down.if ur calmin down,ur some high mkay?-Mr.Mackey

1 year ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

I've never smoked Marijuana before, nor any other drug. It should most definitely be legalized, and not just because, I'd feel more like doing it... I probably still wouldn't. It's because we need to stop imprisoning people for just smoking something that is naturally grown! Smoking pot is a victimless crime and prohibition doesn't work, it's time to move on.

1 year ago | Side: Like, yeah man

Marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol, which as we all know is legal, even though i don't smoke pot, i should have the right if I wanted to

301 days ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

POSITIVALLY HELL YEAH please do man i bet u life would be alot happier if we can smoke in PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

97 days ago | Side: Like, yeah man
-2 points
unknown91(131) Disputed
4 points

people who use, wish to not be labeled as a "pot head" thanks joe

5 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
sparsely(495) Disputed
-2 points
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2 points

also with my argument for yes. but this time i say marijuana shouldnt be legalised becasuse then people will just get more and more of it because people will be abusing it

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!

I'm not that concerned with Marijuana. I'd never use it, and I don't let my boyfriend either. I think it is a cop-out and a rather stupid thing to get into.

I don't mind it being legalized, though I'd rather it not. I'd even go so far as to say alcohol shouldn't be legal either.

I don't, however, like the way these things are prosecuted. I'd rather see users treated like those in need of medical and psychological attention. There shouldn't be anything on their permanent records, they shouldn't go to jail or prison, and they shouldn't be stigmatized.

Users should be sent through rehabilitative structures and helped to find better ways to spend their time and money. Educating themselves, expanding their minds, getting good jobs, having fun in more productive ways. Users should be helped towards a better, happier life without the need for mind altering chemicals.

Pushers, however, are a different matter. Small-timer pusher and pushers of less dangerous drugs should go through the same services. But people selling deadly, horribly destructive drugs to people are partially responsible for their downward spiral. They should be punished, with jail time and prison time (depending on what they did and how they did it) followed by rehabilitation and job training/higher education.

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
5 points

You cannot say that because you'd rather not, it shouldn't be legalized. I agree though, for some odd reason (and I've put way more thought into the issue than I apparently should have) don't like the idea of legalization. Then again, I do know that once someone covets something, the first thing I want to do is keep it from them because I believe anything that is "coveted" cannot be a good thing for them...

Er, you can see my arguments... they aren't pretty :^/.

I don't know, I get the idea that this somehow has to do with morals or ethics, but it's only a feeling and when it comes down to it, my "practical" side says that it should be legalized, but still, I don't like people doing it... which is not the case with drinking.

So why do you think that people shouldn't?

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!

The reason I don't like marijuana, alcohol, hard drugs, and certain kinds of prescription medications is rather simple: I don't think people should sacrifice who they are, in some cases their free will or their humanity.

When someone gives up their free will by becoming a slave to a hard drug or prescription mood and personality altering chemicals it is time for society to step in and give them back control.

Marijuana may be a petty offender, much less of an offender than alcohol, tobacco, meth, cocaine..etc.., but it is still a means of giving up who you are or keeping yourself in a state of non-growth.

We, as human beings, have a duty to ourselves to grow, change, improve, but always in the context of who we are. Drugs are a way to retard this development, deny who we are, and cope with a world that rejects us. It is an escape; an escape which noone deserves.

I don't mind people escaping in other ways: video games, reading, television, camping..etc, at least they are still thinking, at least their self is still intact and operating.

When people do drugs they stop being people and start being Mr. or Ms. X+meth, or X+Marijuana, or X+alcohol. It isn't helpful; it's downright harmful in the long-run.

Governments and societies are meant to protect us; usually from dangers outside. This danger, this threat is unique in its internal, self-inflicted nature.

Again, Marijuana is only a petty offender in this case; which is why I am not adamant about its status as an illegal narcotic. There are far worse legal drugs which I am much more concerned with.

Does that help in explaining my objection to its use? I am still forming my opinion on this one so I know my logic is abit choppy and in some cases exaggerated.

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
KilluminatI Disputed
1 point

well i do see how you could perceive cannabis use as a "cop-out" or a way to escape life, but with me it only motivates me to go to work, in high school it made study more, and generally just gives me that drive to enjoy life. How can this be bad, honestly... the only derogatory thing it does to me is a bit of coughing, proven time and time again to be less harmful than any form of smoking tobacco(pipes, cigarettes, cigars, etc.). You said yourself you've never tried it, this may be a bit blunt for you...but how can you make any judgment on the subject without any experience in it whatsoever?!?

3 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

Look at how absurd things get once Marijuana is legalized.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,559030,00.html

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
Tonberry Disputed
1 point

I don't see the problem here. Holland is banning the smoking of tobacco within all public places, an action most of the USA has already taken. Cigarette smoking bans are mostly irrelevant to the legalization of marijuana, only affecting the fact that people won't be able to smoke marijuana in bars, clubs, etc., if it IS legalized..

1 year ago | Side: Like, yeah man

What's the point of smoking buds with your buds if you can't smoke buds with your buds in a bar that serves Bud? ;)

1 year ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

Marijuana is a drug that can lead to other drugs. Not for everyone, but it does afford everyone the opportunity to find other drugs. Legalized marijuana would continue the downfall of our society in the United States. There are many people who don't smoke pot because it is illegal. These same people would totally deplete the nations supply of potato chips and ice cream. Madness.

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!

So I guess legalized LSD is out of the question. ;)

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
Spoonerism(825) Disputed
1 point

If I could type an emoticon of eyes rolling, I would. Consider my eyes rolled. If you want to talk about gateway drugs, let's talk about alcohol and tobacco, the two legal, harmful drugs that lead people to try other ones.

"There are many people who don't smoke pot because it is illegal"--This is an argument for the efficacy of prohibition, which, if we're being honest, is fairly ineffective. I could just as easily argue there are many people who smoke pot in spite of it being illegal. Does either argument address whether or not it ought to be legalized? No.

Marijuana has no business being illegal when it is less harmful than alcohol, a drug that is not only legal but used by a large portion of the population. Alcohol poisoning kills people every year, as does drunk driving. Marijuana cannot be overdosed on, nor does it make people over-confident or belligerent.

The latest marijuana ads have been more accurate than in years past. "We didn't shoot anybody. We just sat on Pete's couch". Granted, the point is made, marijuana users are less likely to be active. Then again, we could make the same argument about cable television watchers, couldn't we?

5 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
zxcthebeast(2) Disputed
1 point

NO!!!!! All the government would have to do is tax it and legalize it economy will shoot up!!!!!

2 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

The same thing could be said about alcholal, but that is legal.

1 year ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

Drugs are really really really reallly really really really BAD.

4 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
2 points

So is smoking tabaco and drinking alcohol.

and those are legal...

so, why not marijuana?

4 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
1 point

No....... this is going to increase the level of teenagers smoking....

4 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
1 point

Although I consider myself liberal, this is one issue that I strongly oppose! Marijuana, like tobacco, causes cancer as it contains carcinogens. Marijuana is also highly addictive. The tetrahydrocannabinol in it is what causes the addiction which make people crave it. Studies have also shown that uses of marijuana usually lead to more dangerous drugs such as meth and cocaine. If you believe that marijuana does not kill people, try telling that to the relatives of the 30,000 people in Mexico that died due to drug violence. Yes, marijuana is not the only drug that cartels produce and sell, but it is one of them. The only form it should be legal in is a medical form but should be used with intense care.

2 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!

So..., medicinal marijuana is OK...? I'm feeling a little ill ;)

2 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
imrigone(767) Disputed
1 point

Marijuana, like tobacco, causes cancer as it contains carcinogens.

In the quest to investigate the link between cancer and marijuana, research can be roughly divided into two categories: lab research and investigation of long term users outside of the lab. Yes, as an unfortunate amount of lab animal deaths can attest, cannabis does contain carcinogenic molecules. However, research involving actual users paints a rather different picture.

http://scienceblog.com/10660/study-finds-no-link-between-marijuana-use-and-lung-cancer/

http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health/story/2012-01-10/Marijuana-doesnt-harm-lung-function-study-says/52483604/1

There is some controversy regarding the efficacy of these findings. Because marijuana is illegal, it is difficult to find users to participate in these studies, particularly finding heavy long-term users. It has been argued that if it were legalized, it would be much easier to find participants from a wider range of the population, and the information gathered could prove to be more accurate. Still, working with what we've got, it appears that marijuana use not only does not have anywhere near the effect that cigarette smoking does in terms of carcinogenic properties, it even seems to lower rates of certain types of cancer.

Marijuana is also highly addictive.

Not highly. It is significantly less addicting than tobacco or alcohol, about on the same level as caffeine, but usually with less severe withdrawal symptoms. Pretty much anything that stimulates the reward centers of the brain will have some addictive qualities among a large enough sampling of users. But marijuana is very low on the totem pole compared to many legal and even non-regulated substances.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201012/is-marijuana-addictive

http://health.ezinemark.com/the-addictiveness-of-marijuana-or-cannabis-31e84cc7129.html

Studies have also shown that uses of marijuana usually lead to more dangerous drugs such as meth and cocaine.

Studies have also shown that most marijuana users drank alcohol before smoking pot. But alcohol is not considered a gateway drug. Why? Lower incidence of illegal drug use. But lets think about this for a second. As long as marijuana is illegal the people who use it can be classified as "people who are willing to break at least one law." Among adults, alcohol drinkers aren't classified that way. Some might be willing to, and those who are may end up using illegal drugs. Others will be totally law abiding, and since that is the majority of them, alcohol does not get considered a gateway drug. The only way to fairly compare the two would be to put them on the same legal standing and do studies at that point. Further, people who buy marijuana illegally have a greater exposure to other illegal drugs than those who don't since many dealers deal in multiple drugs. I suspect that the legal status of marijuana plays more of a role in its status as a gateway drug than any actual medical reason.

If you believe that marijuana does not kill people, try telling that to the relatives of the 30,000 people in Mexico that died due to drug violence.

The War On Drugs is at least partially to blame here. First, the strategy behind the WOD is to increase the cost. But since most drugs, marijuana included, are highly elastic commodities, this doesn't much reduce the demand. Instead it makes for wealthier drug lords, and competition between them leads to violence. The harder we crack down, the worse the situation gets. Also, we would make it less profitable for the drug lords by opening a legal channel of distribution and cultivation. Having marijuana as a legitimate source of retail would seriously reduce the number of people obtaining it illegally. It could also be regulated for quality and purity this way, which is currently not possible.

2 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

I think it could have dangerous effects on people but other drugs are legal, like alcohol that harm people.

1 year ago | Side: Absolutely not!
0 points

I've already argued in favor of the legalization of marijuana, but there's one thing I forgot about. I watched "Severance" the other day, it's about a group of a European sales division of Palisade Defense are on a bus to a team-building weekend at a "luxury lodge" in the Mátra Mountains of Hungary. The team-building activities don't really work out till the they realize some wacko soviet soldiers are waiting in the woods to kill them one by one, only then they manage to form some sort of a group working together, helping each other, the survival of each is dependent on the survival of the team.

I figured that it might be a bit loose, but there is something about getting into drugs that brings back something that was lost during the arms race in the name of nape security. To illustrate - A few years ago I wrote a story about an alien civilization acting as if they were about to exterminate all humans, the aliens announced it on the news so a global panic was achieved, and nothing really happened, only that a feeling of survivalism boiled up everywhere, there was a greater power threatening from above, one intention over everyone, seeing all human kind as unified, ignoring our differences and difficulties with each other.

Later they said that the whole trick was to teach humanity a lesson about individualistic racing.

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!

I once wrote a story called, "Lake Sky Dome." About this kid that finds another universe in his closet called, "Lake Sky Dome". The name may sound silly but the acronym was fitting ;)

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
0 points

Although some people may say the marijuana gives you a "great time" and "picks you up off of your feet" when you are feeling glum, legalize it and we will have the same problem that we are currently having with alcohol!

Alcohol is legal in the U.S. for those who are over the age of 21, but then again, even those who are proclaimed "mature" enough to handle drinking still abuse that privilage! The same will be if we legalize marijuana! And for all those hippies who think that we should make it legal I have one thing to say to you: "GO DOWN TO MEXICO! I MEAN, MARIJUANA IS PRACTICALLY LEGAL DOWN THERE AND ITS WORKING OUT JUST FINE! ¡Aquí venimos THIRD WORLD COUNTRY!" So go FUCK yourselves hippies! I don't know about the rest of you, but I do NOT want to live in a country like Mexico! That's why I live in the USA baby!

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
3 points

I have to disagree with your comparison of marijuana to alcohol in some respects. Although it is true that being high is kind of similar to being drunk there are some significant differences; marijuana makes things feel, for lack of a better term, sillier. Alcohol on the other hand, when used in excess can lead to blacking out, vomiting and not remembering what happened. In this way alcohol is significantly more dangerous. Whereas you can die from alcohol intoxication, too much marijuana really can't hurt you. Also, most of the negative feelings associated with alcohol, such as guilt and regret, are typically not experienced when using marijuana. We have also seen what happens when you make alcohol illegal: organized crime grew significantly in major cities because they were able to make an absurd amount of money selling bootleg liquor. Comparing alcohol to marijuana in this context would be accurate. The selling of marijuana by gangs is very profitable. You say that we should go down to Mexico to smoke but I live in Delaware and if I want to smoke with my friends going to Mexico for a weekend isn't a viable option. Instead I would have to find a drug dealer. This puts money in the hands of bad people. Legalization would put a stop to this.

Finally, for someone who claims to love the USA so much you seem to be okay with suppressing freedoms. The reason Mexico is different from the US is because they are relatively poor, their government is corrupt, and crime is rampant. Keeping marijuana illegal only helps criminals, so if you want the US to not be like Mexico then you should encourage the legalization of marijuana.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
2 points

What about paranoia? This is a negative feeling caused by marijuana.... wait a minute.... it's a negative feeling because it is illegal. If it were legal, then you wouldn't be paranoid. Hang on, I think I heard the police at my door.... nope, must have been the wind. Anyway... what was I saying? Oh yeah, marijuana is harmful to your memory, that's a negative feeling / side effect. Does this make any sense?

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!

OK, so are you for making alcohol illegal?

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
2 points

I'd say so. [;

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
zxcthebeast(2) Disputed
1 point

OK for 1) We would not abuse the privilge.....watabout us tht useit for medical purposes?....Cancer or enfisema or eating disorders or cant sleep

2 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
-2 points
2 points

I don't think the stigma will change before it is legalized.

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If it was, everybody could see that is is less dangerous than alcohol for sure.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
-2 points
-2 points
-2 points

I really don't care one way or another. I mean, it's not like a mess with it. As far as the kids, it's a parent's responsibility to instill the ability to make good choices on their children. I have two daughters. I wouldn't expect the government to make having sex illegal just so that my girls don't end up pregnant. It's my responsibility to teach them, keep them from getting pregnant and deal with the aftermath if I fail in my responsibility.

6 years ago | Side: Absolutely not!
1 point

Although in a lot of cases things that are "taken or done 'too much'" end up having negative effects, this generalization is not something to base an argument on. Also you assume that marijuana is addictive when in fact it is not. Some people do have addictive personalities, but these people are just as likely to become addicted to cake as they are to marijuana. Marijuana certainly does not lead to death, and as for crime, legalization would take care of that (if you want an explanation look at the argument higher on this page by me). In addition I would like to see the study you are talking about because from what I've read marijuana is actually has positive health affects (see links). The study you quote says there's more toxins yet smoking tobacco increases you chances of getting lung cancer by 20 times and smoking marijuana leads to a slight decrease your chance of getting lung cancer. I hope that next time you post an argument you will cite your sources and not rely on broad generalizations.

Supporting Evidence: Study finds no cancer marijuana connection (www.washingtonpost.com)
6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
-6 points
-7 points
-7 points
Diluck(51) Disputed
9 points

That point of view is very scary. You think the government should be able to control your personal life even when your minding your own business and hurting no one. And yet also allow big corporations to push substances more deadly than marijuana on consumers (Alcohol, Tobacco, Prescription Drugs).

Legalization is about the fact that a person should have the right to privacy and the choice to live their lives how they see fit as long as they hurt no one else. Consider the fact that prescription drugs have become the number one killer in these recent years. People are going to get high off what is available; why restrict them to things that are more dangerous. And why criminalize people who choose to use natural herbs instead of stuff created in laboratories.

Last I checked America was a country of liberty and freedom; but I guess that doesn't mean the same thing in this last century. The founding fathers didn't want to have some central government dictating the citizen's daily lives. It is supposed to be a government by the people and for the people. And most importantly under the law of the constitution. People don't want anything they don't deserve; they only want the one thing supposedly guaranteed in this country; Freedom.

Now if you think its mindless self indulgence to want freedom than you must be a fascist or a communist or maybe just confused and controlled; regardless I pity you.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man

At the risk of pissing off the person you oppose, I like your argument and I voted you up. But I personally would have left the last two sentences out. It detracts from your argument by making you seem like you're name calling. But that's just me.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man
Bradf0rd(1422) Disputed
-2 points
Paul-ish(77) Disputed
3 points

In this case, you want my liberty. Well, you can't always get what you want.

6 years ago | Side: Like, yeah man


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