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yes he should no he is a great president
Debate Score:58
Arguments:35
Total Votes:68
Ended:02/15/10
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Should Obama be impeached

Has Obama really done enough to continue being president or should impeach him?

yes he should

Side Score: 14
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no he is a great president

Side Score: 44
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1 point

ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID! HEALTH CARE IS DEAD! SPEECHES TO FOREIGN LEADERS DOES NOT MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT.

Side: yes he should
jessald(1915) Disputed
3 points

ON THE CONTRARY, MY GOOD MAN, HEALTH CARE IS NOT DEAD -- IT IS MERELY STRUGGLING!! REGARDLESS, GETTING OBSTRUCTED BY ASSHOLES IS NO GROUNDS FOR IMPEACHMENT!!

Side: no he is a great president
WB40(238) Disputed
0 points

True but neither does bowing to a foreign leader. Do you know any other president that has done that

Side: no he is a great president
hmicciche(660) Disputed
2 points

"True but neither does bowing to a foreign leader. Do you know any other president that has done that"

Yes, I do. Why don't you?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZEf6TUYdm_0/Sv9TVvDhVSI/AAAAAAAAACQ/ev3O1SFSG4s/s1600/AP5909020306(2).jpg

In fact, I can show you a photo of a President kissing the leader of a foreign country.

http://www.hermes-press.com/bush_kiss.jpg

I can show you a photo of a President kneeling before the leader of a foreign country.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg145/2tuff2006/BushPopeRatz-1.jpg

So, what's your point? That you don't know anything about diplomatic protocol? Well, then, I would have to agree!

Side: no he is a great president
1 point

Nixon to Hirohito ( http://bit.ly/cWWaHZ )

Eisenhower to DeGaulle ( http://i.imgur.com/ODtkJ.png )

And just for kicks, on an admittedly tangential point, there was Bush holding hands with Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia ( http://i.imgur.com/fIjMo.png ) which somehow didn't cause much of a ruckus at the time.

Side: No because there is no reason to do so
1 point

yes. and replace him with denis kucinich. i am definitely not in favour of a right wing guy like mcain coming in. we need a president with some humanity.

Side: yes he should
0 points

Yes but he has done nothing in his presidency so he should do something or get out of the oval office

Side: yes he should
hmicciche(660) Disputed
4 points

1. Health Care: The Obama White House cleared an important hurdle in the health care reform debate when it appropriated $19 billion in the stimulus package to help implement an electronic medical record system. The money is paltry compared to the hundreds of billions set aside for an overhaul of the health care system in the budget. But officials inside and out of the White House say its significance is hard to overstate.

"We need to have health IT so we have a better idea both of what works but also... so people can share information," Zeke Emanuel, Obama's health care adviser told the Huffington Post in mid-March. "We are on our way in a way that we have never committed ourselves before."

2. Communications: A presidential campaign built on innovative messaging and advanced technology has, naturally, become a White House defined by similar characteristics. As such, the reach of the administration's new media efforts - from hosting online question-and-answer sessions with the president to publishing the first White House blog - has been as expected as appreciated. It's unfortunate, said one tech savvy Democrat, because the new policies have had tangible impacts. "The White House streams every event with the president on its website, even press events," he said. "It's remarkable because, this Sunday they held a swine flu press conference that ordinary people [including many who may have been personally nervous about the topic] were able to watch online... Before you had to wait for a readout or hope that CSPAN would cover it. This is one of those things that people don't quite understand the significance of."

3. Transportation: Since the passage of the economic stimulus package in mid-February, the Obama Department of Transportation has approved 2,500 highway projects. The movement of stimulus money out the door has been as swift as it has been effective: $9.3 billion has been spent in all 50 states. Touting its impact, DOT officials say 260,000 jobs are expected from this investment. And with competition for contracts fierce, the department is set to approve even more projects than previously envisioned. "There will be more money for additional transportation projects," said the official.

4. Education: Maligned for its handling of the financial and banking crises, the Obama Treasury Department has nevertheless implemented policies with real qualitative and quantitative impact on debt-burdened families. Chief among those was a $2,500 tax credit to help offset the cost of tuition (among other expenses) for those seeking a college education. Nearly five million families are expected to save $9 billion, according to Treasury officials.

5. Cars: The automobile industry at the White House and Congress's behest has undergone seismic structural changes, managerial reorganization, and massive cuts in employment. But for all the tough love, the president has put in place the framework for an industry recovery. Perhaps the most significant of steps was to allocate $2 billion in stimulus cash for advanced batteries systems. One high-ranking Hill aide called battery technology "the next big frontier" in the automotive world, adding that if the U.S. could dominate this market it would reclaim its perch as the world's premier car manufacturer.

6. Pakistan: Cognizant of a destabilizing situation in Pakistan, the administration's diplomatic team, with a major assist from Japan, secured $5 billion in aid commitments "to bolster the country's economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism" within the country. The money, as Pakistan observers -- notably Senate Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry - note, will prove instrumental in bringing the nation away from the brink of failure and increased Taliban control.

7. Cities: More than any prior president, Obama has put a spotlight on America's struggling cities, even creating an office of Urban Policy in the White House. It is the Justice Department, however, that lays claim to one of the most consequential of urban affairs achievements. Through the Recovery Act, DOJ secured $2 billion for Byrne Grants, which funds anti-gang and anti-gun task forces. The money, cut during the Bush years, is expected to have massive ramifications on inner-city crime and violence.

8. Engaging the Muslim World: While certainly discussed, foreign affairs experts insist that Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been at once remarkable and under-appreciated. From the first interview with Al Arabiya to his Nowruz address to the Iranian people, to his proclamation that "American is not at war with Islam" during an appearance in Turkey, seasoned observers have been routinely impressed. "Through these [statements and interviews]," said one Democratic foreign policy hand, "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region."

9. Forests: Since taking office, the White House has put under federal protection more than two million acres of wilderness, thousands of miles of river and a host of national trails and parks. The conservation effort - the largest in the last 15 years - came with the stroke of a pen when Obama signed the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009 in late March.

10. Tone: Leaving a meeting at the White House on Tuesday a progressive member of the House of Representatives commented to the Huffington Post just how impressed she was with the president's manner. "He is so calm," said the member, "and has a great ability to make you feel like you're being respected and listened to."

It is not, necessarily, a unique observation. But among many Democrats and even casual observers, Obama's tone is cited as one of the chief catalysts for his outstanding early poll numbers. "Despite record job loss," said one Democratic aide, "there's still hope in America." Indeed, from the beginning of his presidency the percentage of people who believe the nation is headed in the right direction has risen from 19 percent to 42 percent, according to a recent ABC News-Washington Post Poll. Minus that calming influence, these numbers don't exist and neither does the Obama agenda as we know it.

Supporting Evidence: 10 Achievements You Didn't Know About (www.huffingtonpost.com)
Side: no he is a great president
WB40(238) Disputed
1 point

Wear is that 19 billion dollars gunna come from? increased taxes? the current economy makes it hard for Americans to pay money for a $19,000,000 stimulus package

Side: yes he should
Swryght(161) Disputed
1 point

That seems very hasty to me. First, he has done plenty. Second, he has still done nothing to warrant impeachment. You seem to be expressing frustration, perhaps either because the economic downturn is hurting you as it is all Americans, or because you are opposed to his ideology. If you think about it I think you'll agree that neither of those is sufficient cause to impeach a president.

Side: no he is a great president
1 point

FOR WHAT CAUSE WOULD OBAMA BE IMPEACHED!!! HE HAS NOT COMMITTED A CRIME. READ THE CONSTITUTION.

Only treason, bribe, high crimes and misdemeanors are impeachable.

Side: no he is a great president
WB40(238) Disputed
1 point

I HAVE READ THE CONSTITUTION alright PrayerFails so dont say i havent

Side: yes he should
3 points

You can't just impeach a president because you don't like what he has or hasn't done in office. He has to break the law or lie about something. Nixon was going to be impeached (but resigned) because he cheated through the Watergate scandal. And Clinton had rumors of impeachment because of his possible sexcapades with Monica Lewinski. What has Obama done to get impeached?

Side: No because there is no reason to do so

Can't we just impeach him for doing nothing at all for one year? ;)

Side: no he is a great president
1 point

Nope. Because was WB40 said is not true.

This is:

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Side: no he is a great president

Just to correct a minor factual error, Clinton actually was impeached by the House, but was acquitted by the Senate. But otherwise, I think you're spot on.

Supporting Evidence: Impeachment of Bill Clinton (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: no he is a great president
1 point

Of course not. He is a first-term president in his second year who has done nothing illegal as far as we know. Impeachment can only happen when a president has done something wrong. The calls for impeachment are laughable.

Side: no he is a great president
1 point

But,but, but...birth certificate, birth certificate, birth certificate!

Side: no he is a great president
1 point

You're confusing folks, Hade, they don't know you like we do.

Side: yes he should

FOR WHAT CAUSE WOULD OBAMA BE IMPEACHED!!! HE HAS NOT COMMITTED A CRIME. READ THE CONSTITUTION.

Only treason, bribe, high crimes and misdemeanors are impeachable.

Side: no he is a great president

What has he done wrong? I think that he is far from being a good president, but that is no reason to impeach him. That is, unless you think that he was born in Kenya?

Side: no he is a great president
1 point

Why is it that the tag on this side says "no he is a great president" !?

Impeachment has nothing to do with how "great" they are doing in office. Is has to do with law.

I'm sick of people who say the president should be impeached just because they don't like them.

Do I think President Obama is doing a great job? No. Do I think he should be impeached? No.

Great.. another poor example of somebody against Obama. Just what we need.

Side: No because there is no reason to do so

On what grounds? Sorry, but that's just plain asinine. It's a shame that the Republicans trivialized impeachement to the point where this question can even be asked in this situation.

Side: no he is a great president
1 point

Well I don't like him at all he is an idiot.

He says he believes in less government but, he wants national health care which is TOTAL government.

His input on Russia invading Georgia was that he wanted the United Nations to vote on whether to take action on it or not.

OK here is the part where he is an IDIOT for this Russian issue.

It takes ONE veto for something to not pass on the UN board RUSSIA IS on the UN Board!

You think that Russia is going to go ahead and vote for the UN to take action against themselves?!

He is a complete idiot!

His grades from Harvard haven't even been exposed to the public probably because he was a C student and weaseled his way out of School.

He is a hack.

The press is protecting him and I think everyone knows it.

He claims he is not Muslim LIE

He started printing Muslim post stamps! Someone who just supports a religion is NOT going to print god damn stamps for them.

Side: He is not Great
0 points

WHAT THE HELL WOULD YOU IMPEACH HIM FOR?!! HIS SKIN?! You guys are just racist conservatives who didn't get their pudding for desert.

Side: no he is a great president
Sulith(508) Disputed
1 point

"You guys are just racist conservatives who didn't get their pudding for desert."

Your calling us Racist?!

The only reason I think for getting him impeached for is for being a Liar but all presidents have lied therefore it would not be right.

Also, I always see the leftist making a huge moral issue about his skin color when MOST of the Right is not. MOST

Side: He is not Great
2 points

What are you talking about? The right wing media used every racial / xenophobic tactic against Obama during his campaign... and to this day!... for that matter.

What has Obama done to make you think he is a liar? Obama's administration has been surprisingly consistent with his campaign. He is doing exactly what he said he was going to do with regard to the economy, the war in Iraq/Afghanistan, the environment, social issues, and on and on.

Jump off the band wagon and look at the facts.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122620185

(While you're examining this source, keep in mind that he has only been in office for one year...)

By the way... he can only do what Congress will let him do... some of his intentions have either been weakened... or stagnated by Congress... such as his promise to purge the gov. of lobbyist influence... which is transparent for obvious reasons. Many of his campaign promises have been stalled because of Congress directly... not him.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ promises/

Side: no he is a great president