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It seems that LGBT is a fact of life and in this context there would be a strong argument that pupils should be made aware of the full extent of the world they live in and how best to deal with those of a deviant sexual orientation. To be forewarned is to be forearmed.
If you don't care that you are on your way to Hell, and you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner, and you hate people like me who try to tell you that God loves you while He hates your sin.....hey, you might as well be as dirty as you wanna be as long as you can before you wake up in Hell.
Yes. Sex education helps people make good decisions and lowers teen pregnancy and the spread of STD's. There is no reason not to educate young adults on this topic.
You're another foul mouth pervert flattering yourself with your obnoxious pride feigning to be intelligent strength...just a fool with one foot in the grave and the other on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell. I'm not interested in the hot air you breathe against God bringing your own condemnation in Hell.
O: Uh-oh guys, I'm calling down the Wrath of God. You heard it here first folks; by supporting the education of children on potential risks and dangers of sex, I've condemned myself to hell.
In other news, SaintNow continues to be a jackass, hurling nonsense and seeing what will stick. The jury is still out on whether they are a troll, mentally challenged, a legit bigoted asswipe, or a 2edgy4u teenager killing time. A different jury is also still discussing whether any of those are actually worse than the others, or if they're all just terrible.
If you don't care that you are on your way to Hell, and you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner, and you hate people like me who try to tell you that God loves you while He hates your sin.....hey, you might as well be as dirty as you wanna be as long as you can before you wake up in Hell.
I don't really know what you mean by "over there," I call it health class. Regardless, that's reasonable, my position was more to the point that a new class shouldn't be made for it. But a section of health class I can support, although I don't really know what the curriculum would be past "gay relationships are legitimate too." I mean biologically speaking there isn't much to teach.
Oh yeah sorry I should explain, I'm from Australia, most of this site seems to be American. There'd be a decent amount to add to the curriculum really; gay sex tends to have different risks, and trans topics just aren't covered at all (at least, not in our sex ed).
Schools teaching LGBT agenda points should also be teaching something like this, and if the schools won't do it, individual parents most certainly should.
Animals are being animals, they were not made in the image of God. People are guilty of doing wrong, animals are excused as they are not people. When you are an animal, such as taught by evolutionists, there is nothing objectively wrong in anything you do. We are not animals, homosexuality is wrong. It is still against nature if animals do it or not. Animals being shown killing each other for dominance does not make it ok for people to do the same thing. Why don't you carry this animalistic argument to support somebody like Hitler who was only doing what his "inner great ape" told him to do?
Presenting homosexuality in animals as something that is supposed to end all counter arguments against sexual perversions outside of one man and one woman being united as one flesh in marriage is hypocritical if you do not apply the same kind of reasoning to support all kinds of evils among humans as "natural". Animals steal from each other, kill and maim each other, eat their own babies.......so these things should also be accepted as normal in people, and whichever person comes out on top in any endeavor should be loved and accepted while the loser can be lamented but there should be no punishments for any crime?
Homosexuality in people is criminal behavior if the law of the land enforces morals regarding the behavior or not....and don't go off saying you can't legislate morality. All laws are moral judgements of what is right and wrong behavior.
Animals are not held under criminal law until they do something like an alligator eating granny and then the alligator get targeted and killed.
Find it for yourself if you are not too mentally challenge to be able to find the passages yourself. There are many passages specifically saying homosexuality is wrong....that is, if you think doing abominable things is wrong. If you don't think it is wrong to do abominable things, then it won't matter to you what the Bible says, there is no point in your looking it up as if you had enough intelligence to do so, and there is no point in me giving you the scripture references.
I take it that you defile your body with lustful physical indulgences and think it's good to be dirty. That is not my problem, as long as you don't get too close to my loved ones.
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." -Deuteronomy 22:28-29
I've got a silver necklace, if I go and give it to some girls dad do I get to rape and marry her? Or perhaps that's something that needs to be re-examined in our modern world, because we know now that rape is an appalling crime, and that paying 50 silver pieces and marrying the victim shouldn't be the "punishment" we give perpetrators.
If it's okay to re-examine that, why isn't it okay to re-examine the LGBT lifestyle that your bible reportedly has strong opinions on?
Saintnow, I really hope one day you learn to get over this hate-boner you have going. I mean that sincerely.
That was old testament law given specifically by God for the Israelites after He brought them out of Egypt. I an not well studied in the matter, but it was God's law for a specific people and a specific purpose. It was justice, and if it was not followed exactly the penalty would be death....that much I know, Israelites who refused to obey the Law of God were to be put to death.
LGBT is a terrible evil. If you can't see that it is evil, there is something terribly corrupt in your motivations. Your apparent support of them indicates that you are dirty minded and probably a dirty pervert who defiles their body in who knows what perversions of fornication. You are exposing yourself, and it's repulsive.
SaintNow: Not well studied in the matters of biblical history, but more than willing to use vague gestures towards the bible to justify their disgusting hate-speech.
Perhaps SaintNow is talking about how I defile my body and expose myself because they've been repressing their really messed up kinky side for too long, and now it's manifesting itself in this sexually frustrated dribble they spew everywhere. Or maybe that's reading too much into it, and they're just an asshole.
Either way, I'm gonna go right ahead and continue supporting the LGBT community until you give me a valid reason to believe what you're saying. Explain to me why you think the LGBT community is so morally corrupt.
Well enough studied to understand that the Law given to the Israelites was the law for them. You are the one who needs to study the Bible you are trying to use as a discredit to the Bible.
It is you who is the hater. You hate God for His word which is against sin and condemns it to the prison of Hell, because you are proud and think you can defy God and remain outside of Hell. You hate me for saying the truth about your sin, which is that your sin is evil, dirty, corrupt, and taking you to Hell.
Your hatred is obvious when you curse me, it is obvious when you argue against God. You are a hater. If you were standing here in my house talking to me the way you talk, cursing from the dirt inside you, you would be quickly leaving willfully or you would be leaving with bruises and maybe swallowing your teeth. I do hate evil, and you are full of it. Until you are able to speak civilly and refrain your rude inclinations to curse me, all I have to say to you is that you are a punk who is not man enough to listen to and discuss the truth, and God loves you....and it's a good thing for you that He has more patience than me.
I can honestly say I love you and show that love by telling you the truth. At the same time, I can see that you hate me and when it is in my rights, it would not bother me in the least to throw you out of my house ASAP by any means necessary.
You go ahead and support perverts, and tell them it's good to mutilate their bodies if they feel like their "inner opposite gender" needs help to be revealed, and when you or anybody you love gets AIDS or any other debilitating disease, thank yourself for supporting LTGB
I could use that same argument ("the law given to the Israelites was the law for them") to refute any biblical passage that denounces homosexuality.
You say you love me, but also say you'd leave me bruised and swallowing my own teeth. You don't love me; you don't even love your God. What you love is feeling emotionally superior, and jerking off to your sense of masculine entitlement.
Awww, vague directionless threats against my family and friends! How adorable.
I guess you have no morals so there is not such thing as corruption, and being a pervert to you means whatever you feel like doing is good. You're a pervert and you know it, you don't need me to tell you what is morally wrong with perversions.
Find it for yourself if you are not too mentally challenge to be able to find the passages yourself. There are many passages specifically saying homosexuality is wrong....that is, if you think doing abominable things is wrong. If you don't think it is wrong to do abominable things, then it won't matter to you what the Bible says, there is no point in your looking it up as if you had enough intelligence to do so, and there is no point in me giving you the scripture references.
Haha Mr. high and mighty. "No I wont share the Bible with you. Of course people like me are not tempted by sin and you should all be like me and not have to look at the Bible to know whats right and wrong." The Bible is the word of God. You should share and NO ONE is above sin.
Defend lazy brains, then resort to insults....excellent discussion tactic there, good way to get people thinking.
When people ask a stupid question such as "show me the Bible passage" when that passage is well known and easy to find if the questioner actually does not know exactly where to find it without looking it up, they do not care what the Bible says. They are asking the stupid question as part of their hypothetical argument in which they make themselves their own moral god in order to excuse their sin. Then a clown like you gets all up in the air about it with an big "HAHA!!! GOT YA!!!
Mike, take a hike, and get some fresh air and maybe after your brain clears a little, you will have the clarity to carry on a conversation with me.
Admiral Bacon appears to me to be a homosexual, though he denies it. He supports homosexuals rabidly, so I'm sure he knows the most famous and most hated passage in the Bible which refers to homosexuality as an abomination, a sexual sin placed in a level of higher despicability than some other sexual sins, though all are called abominable directly or indirectly in the Bible. This is common knowledge among homosexuals, and I'm sure the Admiral of Wavy Bacon who holds hands with homos in every post he comments about them knows it well. Idiots like the homophobic Bacon and full blown butt buddies want to outlaw the Bible as "hate speech", mostly because it says sexual sin is evil, particularly homosexual sin being called "abomination", and secondly because it says God's hates evil and sinners who die in their pride defying God will end up in the Lake of Fire suffering torment as eternally frying rotted sausage.
I'm above bending over for somebody who wants to be my butt buddy. Are you a faggot? Why is it so important for you to insist it's ok to be somebody's butt buddy?
Are you kidding? You must be a sodomite dog. Why don't you come out and admit that you abuse your body in sexual indulgences with other perverts?
The Bible calls homosexuals "dogs", sodomites, whoremongers......they are all perverts and your support of them shows you are perverted as well....and I'm guessing you are a faggot since you always want to hold their hands in support
I am not opposed to it in principal, although I believe that the money for those classes could be better spent in other programs. Perhaps this topic could be integrated into Psychology/Sociology classes?
If you don't care that you are on your way to Hell, and you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner, and you hate people like me who try to tell you that God loves you while He hates your sin.....hey, you might as well be as dirty as you wanna be as long as you can before you wake up in Hell.
You declared yourself to be my enemy, I think that's a pretty good sign that you hate me.
If you end up in Hell, it's because you love your sin more than life, and you are too proud to admit you are guilty and deserve to die and need God's mercy. God is giving you time trying to draw you in to reason with Him, to agree with Him, to find His mercy. He paid your price in death for you when He became a man and died in your place so you can be pardoned and not have to suffer eternal death in Hell but can have eternal life, forgiveness, in Him in His resurrection. Jesus is the Living God, death could not keep Him in the ground like it will keep you if you don't care that He loves you so much that He died for you to pay your price so you can be forgiven.
Again, if you don't care what God did for you so you can be pardoned of your guilt and be forgiven, saved from Hell, then you might as well be as dirty as you wanna be as long as you can because there won't be any pleasure in Hell. Going against God is dirty, it's dirt on you......dirt of your own grave pulling you down to Hell if you wont' repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ in His resurrection and receive Him by faith personally as your Savior before it's too late and your time is over.
Ok, so you don't hate me, you are a nice enemy. I very much appreciate that you can express yourself and argue without resorting to cursing and insults.
You call yourself an atheist, correct? An atheist is a person who believes they have mentally murdered God. Atheism is hatred against God no matter how innocent an atheist makes his face look when he (or she) says things like "I don't hate god, I see no evidence that any god exists. They almost always refuse to spell God's name properly the way they spell their own name, and call Him a god, or god, like He is not who He is, God. Atheism is a relentless insult, attack, and hatred against God. True, some atheists have numbed themselves so much that they can at times appear emotionless as they put on an innocent look and say "I have no god-belief". They don't take it well when I say they are being dishonest and I can see how that might sound like an insult, but it's the truth. When an atheist says there is no God, they know exactly who they are denying is there. They know they are denying God, then they say they have no god-belief because the idea of God is imaginary.....they can't stop imagining God and they try to murder Him, make Him go away, by saying He is not there. All they are doing is sealing their destiny in Hell where they will see nothing good which indicates God is good, like sunshine and rain and warm breezes on cool days......God will give them the no-good idea of God they want, but that can only be known without being able to believe differently in the fire of Hell. In Hell, nobody will be able to believe God is good. Atheists could believe it now, but most of them won't and they will get what they are asking for....eternity void of any evidence of God being good. Every good thing comes from God. In Hell there is nothing good, so there will be no evidence in Hell that God is good...that is what atheists want, proof that God is not good. They were wrong, they are wrong, and they will be wrong forever in Hell saying God is not good. God is good all of the time; All of the time, God is good.
God can't stop you from going to Hell if you wont' stop going against Him and will not concede that He is righteous and you are unrighteous. God reluctantly, as a loving Father, will give you what you want if you want a reality void of being able to know He is good (the atheistic delusion). The only place void of any sign that God is good and He loves you is the fire of Hell. If you want to be strong in your pride and enjoy yourself without God's mercy, He is giving you time to do it now because He loves you and gives you what you want. If you want eternal life in His Kingdom of Heaven with all of His blessings and no evil to disrupt or harm anybody, then you have to come to Him for mercy and find that mercy through the blood of His Son.
I appreciate your good manners and not cussing. If you will listen, I'll do my best to help you understand the proof of God's love for you.
No, LGBTQ is just a set of genders and sexualities. The closest I can see being done is putting it in a section of health. But not an entirely separate class.
If you don't care that you are on your way to Hell, and you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner, and you hate people like me who try to tell you that God loves you while He hates your sin.....hey, you might as well be as dirty as you wanna be as long as you can before you wake up in Hell.
In the entirety of the time I've spent debating you, you have not once ever provided an argument that could be considered coherent by anyone outside of an insane asylum. Your default answer to everything is "God says so" and that you're going to Hell. You don't listen to reason, and you blatantly ignore logic.
You are a hateful, belligerent, stubborn and frankly idiotic person and I don't even know why you even bother coming here seeing as you don't know how to debate.
I have yet to see an argument against being LGBTQ that isn't embedded in bullshit religious rhetoric, and you're no exception here. If you have a logical argument that makes sense (doubtful that you do) then share it, if not seriously fuck off.
You have not spent much time debating me, because I don't read much of what you say so I'm not responding to your arguments. I try to tell you that as a sinner you do not have the right to exist outside of Hell and can be saved from it through Jesus Christ, and then you go on and on and on debating against God as if you can prove He does not have the right to rule over or against you.
Why are you leaving out Beastiality? Some people have to let there inner monkey out and do it with animals because they were born that way, not really perverts or queers or abominable butt buddies, they just don't like the normal way of a man and woman becoming one flesh in marriage and they like to make hamburger with animals....so it should be "LBGT&crittersex;and Q"
A lady at the grocery store knew I was a Christian, and started hating on me....saying how wrong I was, and how her nice butt buddy friends would be better parents than the married man and woman she knows who fight often. She said she would prefer to leave her children with the stink stickers if something happened to her. I said, "your only choice is between a couple of homos and a couple who fights all the time". Hoping she would get the message that she needs to make some new and better friends, I said "well, you have a wish in one hand and a pile of dirt in the other". She wanted to kill me of course, nice butt buddy supporter that she is.
There's no rational reason - homosexuality offers no benefit to society.
Nor is there any harm to it, at all. Although arguably homosexual marriages are more beneficial seeing as we're having an increasingly worrying overpopulation problem. Additionally, what is the benefit of television to society? I can think of plenty of reasons why that should be banned. What about recreational hunting? Or binge eating?
Why are you leaving out Beastiality?
Because bestiality can legitimately hurt both the person and the animal involved. Stop asking stupid questions.
A lady at the grocery store knew I was a Christian, and started hating on me
Well I'm sorry to hear that (although knowing you that's probably not the entire story.) Reading further you do nothing more than use the extremely offensive term "butt buddy" liberally in an attempt at making a point that only really comes around to nothing more than you being a dick.
So it's ok to tear your partners rectum to shreds by being a butt buddy, but it's not ok to do the same thing to animals? Please explain your hypocritical morality. Is it because AIDS is believed to have originated from people being butt buddies with monkeys when they ware letting their inner ape come out?
You always sound hateful toward God, and always sound hateful toward me because I won't say sin is ok or good or normal. Your tone is murderous, and sometimes your words are clearly full of hate. I hate sin, I hate evil, and you hate me for telling the truth about the evils of sin.
I'm not hateful towards God - its illogical to hate a fictional character. I do however hate what he represents, "God's word" has been used and is being used to justify some of the worst atrocities there has ever been, it encourages bigotry (you're a great example), ignorance, and prevents people from asking questions.
I don't really understand your insistence that I want to murder you, and seeing as you've never heard my voice you can't really use my tone as an explanation.
It's funny that you talk about hate so much though considering the amount of bigotry and hostility you have for LGBTQ people. How can you in any way advocate as being against hate when you are simultaneously spouting it?
You're a liar, you hate God, in your mind you have murdered Him. You can't really convince yourself that you have succeeded in freeing yourself from God, so you go on and on saying stupid things against God. All you are doing is heaping up more of His wrath, insisting you will not believe He can rule against you when you are not burning in Hell, and He is going to run out of patience with you and give you the Godless world you want in the fire of Hell and you deserve it...and you know it. You just hate to admit the truth because you want God to be gone and you can't make Him be gone.
Again, I don't, in the same way that I don't hate Darth Vader, they're both equally real.
The rest of your "argument" is just talking about how I deserve to go to Hell. I really don't need to answer this considering for it to be a valid point you first need to prove that God is real, then you need to prove that Hell is real, then you need to prove that our all loving, knowing, forgiving, and powerful God will send anyone to eternal torture for using the curiosity and skepticism that HE GAVE THEM.
No. LGBT are just ways that you feel about another gender. What's there to teach about in schools if it's just feelings? I think LGBT is not a natural response to the human society because we are part of the animal kingdom and there are no other living species that do this. Plus, LGBT can't reproduce so you can't teach that in family life. That's just my opinion. XD
Schools teaching LGBT agenda points should also be teaching something like this, and if the schools won't do it, individual parents most certainly should.
Animals are being animals, they were not made in the image of God. People are guilty of doing wrong, animals are excused as they are not people. When you are an animal, such as taught by evolutionists, there is nothing objectively wrong in anything you do. We are not animals, homosexuality is wrong. It is still against nature if animals do it or not. Animals being shown killing each other for dominance does not make it ok for people to do the same thing. Why don't you carry this animalistic argument to support somebody like Hitler who was only doing what his "inner great ape" told him to do?
Presenting homosexuality in animals as something that is supposed to end all counter arguments against sexual perversions outside of one man and one woman being united as one flesh in marriage is hypocritical if you do not apply the same kind of reasoning to support all kinds of evils among humans as "natural". Animals steal from each other, kill and maim each other, eat their own babies.......so these things should also be accepted as normal in people, and whichever person comes out on top in any endeavor should be loved and accepted while the loser can be lamented but there should be no punishments for any crime?
Homosexuality in people is criminal behavior if the law of the land enforces morals regarding the behavior or not....and don't go off saying you can't legislate morality. All laws are moral judgements of what is right and wrong behavior.
Animals are not held under criminal law until they do something like an alligator eating granny and then the alligator get targeted and killed.
People are animals. How could you say that animals are not made in the image of God?! What if God doesn't exist? What does "people are guilty of doing wrong" mean? We do the same as animals. After I read your statement, I'm not really sure what side you're on.
You are not a monkey's nephew. You are more than an animal. Animals do not have the powers of reason, imagination, communication, and domination as we do. We are made in God's image. If you deny it, you are only degrading yourself to be a monkey. God made you to be a man (or woman), not a monkey. It's silly to monkey around. Don't go bananas.
If you look like a dog or a monkey, I can understand if you believe you are an animal...but you are not, you are made in the image of God. I can tell. Even though you act like a devil, you still were made in the image of God.
If you look like a dog or a monkey or a walrus (I knew a guy who actually looked like Wally the Walrus.......and worked with a guy who looked very much like a chimpanzee in the face with a small monkey-type head), I can understand if you believe you are an animal...but you are not, you are made in the image of God. I can tell. Even though you act like a devil, you still were made in the image of God.
Just because people sang on your birthday:
Happy birthday to you,
You live in a zoo.
You look like a monkey,
And act like one too...........
Just because everybody agreed on that, it does not prove you are an animal. You can't always believe the majority opinion. If you are not saved from Hell now, you are lost and on your way to the fire.
Animals do not have the capacity to rule the world. Man does have that capacity, and in modern times we show it by our ability to destroy every living thing on earth with nuclear explosives.
God dominates nature, and He made us like Himself with that ability. When He made us, He gave us dominion over the world. He did not give dominion to any animal because He did not make them in His image. They can only be what they are, they have no choice in that. We, by choice, can be like devils when God made us to be like Him. God loves us so much that He took on a body like a man, to die in man's place, so He can be just in execution eternal punishment of Hell fire against those who will not believe that He gave His life's blood to pay for their sins so they can be forgiven in His resurrection, and His name is Jesus Christ.
Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. As many as received Him, to them gave He the power to become the sons of God, even to as many as believed on His name. For with the heart, man believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation....that if thou wilt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus Christ, and believe in thine heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Get real with God believing on His Son and you will know Him in reality. Talk to God.
What a beautiful sermon, SaintNow. I'm sure your God would be super proud of you. You're absolutely doing that right thing here, by spreading His word.
Your faith must be so strong! To be able to see insults where none were given, make seemingly nonsensical arguments, and spew vile hate speech day after day on thread after thread. I honestly wouldn't be able to do it myself, I guess I'm too weak, but your faith in your God gives you such strength!
God must be so proud of you, SaintNow. Why, are any of his other servants willing to provide unprompted mini sermons online in the hope that it will inspire others to join you in your arbitrarily targeted hatred? I think not! Even more proof that, when you pass from this world, God will greet you at the pearly gates himself with open arms.
Yep, you're definitely doing what that good old Catholic God wanted people to do.
What a bunch of cry babies. You want to act like idiots, then cry when you get banned and can't respond in the debate you misbehaved in. If I get banned, I just shrug and move on.
Awwwwww, boo hooo, it's not fair that you are facing suffering in death, poor thing.
Is that really the message you want to support?
Now you have proof that God loves you.
No. Still don't have any.
If God really loved you, why do you have to feel pain?. It's soooooo sad that you feel unloved by God.
It is amazing how you don't understand the massive conflict in your own words.
It seems so unfair, you don't deserve to die, do you, you're as good or better than God, right?
If existing makes you better then I suppose I am.
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Catholics are not Christians, they are pagan idolator who use Christian names and some Christian concepts but they follow and obey the Poop and Catholic dogma while Christians are to follow and obey only Jesus Christ and His word, the Bible.
I did read the first two or three words of your post, and most of the last sentence..something about Catholics implying you think I am like them...I am not the least bit Catholic. Are you a sodomite?
You need to stick to your single sentence stupidities, because I won't read more than one sentence ....and usually a lot less that than....when it's obviously going to be stupid stuff from a guy who is probably a butt buddy of sodomites
Presenting homosexuality in animals as something that is supposed to end all counter arguments against sexual perversions outside of one man and one woman being united as one flesh in marriage is hypocritical if you do not apply the same kind of reasoning to support all kinds of evils among humans as "natural". Animals steal from each other, kill and maim each other, eat their own babies.......so these things should also be accepted as normal in people, and whichever person comes out on top in any endeavor should be loved and accepted while the loser can be lamented but there should be no punishments for any crime?
Good point. Something existing or not existing in the natural world does not define if it is right or wrong. Calling something "unnatural" or "natural" is an invalid argument.
But without that argument, why is homosexuality wrong?
All sex outside of a man and woman being united as one flesh in marriage is wrong...it's a perversion. If you won't look at it correctly, that's your problem and not mine.
All sex outside of a man and woman being united as one flesh in marriage is wrong...it's a perversion. If you won't look at it correctly, that's your problem and not mine.
Can you explain why this is true? This is not obviously true to me, but it seems to be for you, and since this is a debate site, I'd love to hear why you are so confident in this.
Have you ever heard of AIDS? Why do you think AIDS remains as it always has been from when it was first recognized as GRID (Gay Related Immune Deficiency); a disease carried predominantly by homosexuals? I'll give you a clue.....certain tissues in human bodies are more porous than other tissues, allowing for easier penetration by disease organisms. Certain tissues were designed for certain things. If you think there is nothing wrong with doing things to your body which carry great risk of infection, and nothing wrong with encouraging others to do such things, then I have to conclude you are dirty minded pervert probably carrying at least two STDs which may or may not be displaying symptoms but can still be transmitted.
Gay men are not the only people who engage in anal sex.
Also, this debate is on topics that also include gay women, and more importantly, homosexual attraction, not just acts.
AIDS is not only spread through gay sex.
Handling money puts your body at great risk for infection. And yet, I am certain that you both handle money often and encourage others to do the same. Does that mean that you are a dirty minded pervert probably carrying at least two STDs which may or may not be displaying symptoms but can still be transmitted?
AIDS always has been and always will be predominately a homosexual disease due to the rampant promiscuity of homosexuals, and the simple fact that some tissues are designed to be porous while other tissues are designed to be protective. If you want to choose to be a pervert, and disregard God's design of a man and a woman becoming one flesh in marriage, any STD you get is exactly what you deserve....homosexual, heterosexual, pedophile, beastialist, whatever.
You compare handling money to having sex? You must be the super slut of the world.
How do animals in the animal kingdom procreate if they are homo ? Surely they must be on the endangered species list ! Show me the homo animals that are the endangered species list if you will !
How do animals in the animal kingdom procreate if they are homo ?
Homosexuality works the same way in animals as it does humans. Some are gay, but the majority are not. The majority that aren't gay procreate.
Surely they must be on the endangered species list ! Show me the homo animals that are the endangered species list if you will !
Moving the goalposts I see. You want me to demonstrate how animals in the wild are like humans. It makes no sense to present an endangered species since humans aren't endangered.
You know i went to buy a bird the other day and they were all out do to bird homosexuality. Dogs and cats were going to be the next to fall according to the authorities at the pet store ROTFFLMMFAO !
You lied. Just because it is possible that someone said something to you doesn't mean you weren't lying. And, no pet store owner would have told you that.
Your link said birds are homo so there is becoming a shortage of birds not only in pet stores but in the wild as well. Duck hunters are now seeing a shortage of ducks due to duck homosexuality !
Schools teaching LGBT agenda points should also be teaching something like this, and if the schools won't do it, individual parents most certainly should.
Animals are being animals, they were not made in the image of God. People are guilty of doing wrong, animals are excused as they are not people. When you are an animal, such as taught by evolutionists, there is nothing objectively wrong in anything you do. We are not animals, homosexuality is wrong. It is still against nature if animals do it or not. Animals being shown killing each other for dominance does not make it ok for people to do the same thing. Why don't you carry this animalistic argument to support somebody like Hitler who was only doing what his "inner great ape" told him to do?
Presenting homosexuality in animals as something that is supposed to end all counter arguments against sexual perversions outside of one man and one woman being united as one flesh in marriage is hypocritical if you do not apply the same kind of reasoning to support all kinds of evils among humans as "natural". Animals steal from each other, kill and maim each other, eat their own babies.......so these things should also be accepted as normal in people, and whichever person comes out on top in any endeavor should be loved and accepted while the loser can be lamented but there should be no punishments for any crime?
Homosexuality in people is criminal behavior if the law of the land enforces morals regarding the behavior or not....and don't go off saying you can't legislate morality. All laws are moral judgements of what is right and wrong behavior.
Animals are not held under criminal law until they do something like an alligator eating granny and then the alligator get targeted and killed.
If you look like a dog or a monkey or a walrus (I knew a guy who actually looked like Wally the Walrus.......and worked with a guy who looked very much like a chimpanzee in the face with a small monkey-type head), I can understand if you believe you are an animal...but you are not, you are made in the image of God. I can tell. Even though you act like a devil, you still were made in the image of God.
Just because people sang on your birthday:
How old are you?
You live in a zoo.
You look like a monkey,
And act like one too...........
Just because everybody agreed on that, it does not prove you are an animal. You can't always believe the majority opinion. If you are not saved from Hell now, you are lost and on your way to the fire.
No. You can't coddle everyone's way of life, or inclinations. Otherwise you will have to hold optional classes on polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia etc.
If you don't care that you are on your way to Hell, and you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner, and you hate people like me who try to tell you that God loves you while He hates your sin.....hey, you might as well be as dirty as you wanna be as long as you can before you wake up in Hell.
If you don't care that you are on your way to Hell, and you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner, and you hate people like me who try to tell you that God loves you while He hates your sin.....hey, you might as well be as dirty as you wanna be as long as you can before you wake up in Hell.
Sorry, I am not bearing false witness against my neighbor. I'm making fun of some people, including you, in a effort to get you to see that you need to be saved from Hell. You and several others probably will always believe you have the right to exist outside of the fire of Hell, even when you are in the flames and can't get out and it's sad you can't be reached with the truth to be saved.
I'm confused about why you replied to my argument months later and why you replied with an irrelevant comment. You continue to violate one of the 10 Commandments. Also, you love your sin more than life and it's taking you to Hell.
what's really weird is how I thought you were a bit of a jokester until I realized you are serious about warping your brain with weed as you try to get your "inner opposite gender" to reveal itself to the world. That's weird....especially if you are mutilating your body to try to make it look or feel like it actually is the opposite gender.
Well, the baloney boppin' Bishop bellyaches; have you run out of children to molest? Repent now and God may put you on flash-burn instead of slow-roast to put you out of your misery sooner.
Well, any time I see your name I know you are going to display your firm belief that you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner. You will be that way until your time is finalized, won't you? And after reading some of your vulgarity, do you think I'm going to read your posts any more? Are you as stupid as you sound?
People are a mirror of you; nastiness begets nastiness, pedophile priest. Have you not figured that out, or are you as dumb as I think you are, perhaps even more so.
God will be most disappointed in your errant behavior. You have not been a good ambassador for Christianity with all your nastiness. He will now put you back on slow roast instead of flash burn to prolong your agony. Repent now and save you hide. Otherwise, you will be medium to well done for eternity.
You don't know God, so why do you use His name as if you know Him?
You can know Him personally, as your Father, and know you are His child and heaven is your home. He made the way for you in Jesus Christ. Repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved from Hell. I don't like seeing you dying and going to Hell. I hope you trust the Lord and get saved.
Schools teaching LGBT agenda points should also be teaching something like this, and if the schools won't do it, individual parents most certainly should.
Animals are being animals, they were not made in the image of God. People are guilty of doing wrong, animals are excused as they are not people. When you are an animal, such as taught by evolutionists, there is nothing objectively wrong in anything you do. We are not animals, homosexuality is wrong. It is still against nature if animals do it or not. Animals being shown killing each other for dominance does not make it ok for people to do the same thing. Why don't you carry this animalistic argument to support somebody like Hitler who was only doing what his "inner great ape" told him to do?
Presenting homosexuality in animals as something that is supposed to end all counter arguments against sexual perversions outside of one man and one woman being united as one flesh in marriage is hypocritical if you do not apply the same kind of reasoning to support all kinds of evils among humans as "natural". Animals steal from each other, kill and maim each other, eat their own babies.......so these things should also be accepted as normal in people, and whichever person comes out on top in any endeavor should be loved and accepted while the loser can be lamented but there should be no punishments for any crime?
Homosexuality in people is criminal behavior if the law of the land enforces morals regarding the behavior or not....and don't go off saying you can't legislate morality. All laws are moral judgements of what is right and wrong behavior.
Animals are not held under criminal law until they do something like an alligator eating granny and then the alligator get targeted and killed.
You are a homosexual, or you are not, or you take the middle ground supporting their dirty butt buddy behavior as a homophobe who is afraid to say what they do is wrong and is afraid to bend over and be their butt buddy for real instead of pretending like you support them.
Which is it:
A) A real life butt buddy of sodomite dogs
B) Opposed to homosexuality and all sexual indulgences outside of a man and woman who become one flesh in marriage
c) A homophobe who is afraid to bend over and be a real butt buddy while in fear of the faggots cannot stand up like a man and say what they do is perverted; wrong.
My guess is that you fall under "A", and that is why you represent yourself as a faggot-fashion cartoon character.
You need to stick to your single sentence stupidities, because I won't read more than one sentence ....and usually a lot less that than....when it's obviously going to be stupid stuff from a guy who is probably a butt buddy of sodomites
Homosexuality only seems to be making inroads in western societies, where there's already a negative population growth due to low birthrates, so it wouldn't help alleviate your mythical world overpopulation anyways.
Because if there's no benefit, then it's a waste of valuable class time. Can you think of a reason why something that offers no benefit should be taught?
That's your opinion - mine is that there is no benefit to society in teaching homosexuality. Since you're taking me to task on my opinion, I'd think you could do a bit better than simply playing the contrarian without backing it up with why.
Homosexuality is a topic which many children know very little about, let alone other forms of sexuality. Children should be taught sexuality in general in their Sex Ed classes to that they can be knowledgeable on the topic (Again, like how classes are supposed to work). Without said education, they will be responding to situations from a position of ignorance, be it homosexual individuals not using protection, or heterosexual people assuming that homosexuals are child rapists (as an unfortunately large number do think), etc.
Simply being educated on what it is would go a long way to alleviating the bigotry that exists in my part of this country. I'm not talking about having the teacher go on a "Gay is OK" lecture, by the way.
Fine, if preventing disease is your concern (ie unprotected homosexual sex), then simply have schools discourage homosexuality all together. Since homosexuality does absolutely nothing for the gene pool, from a cost/benefit perspective anyways, there's no logical reason to discuss it in a positive light. If schools are to reference it at all, they should approach it as something to be avoided.
To say they should be taught something, SO THAT they can be knowledgeable on that thing, is merely begging the question. Why ought children be knowledgeable on homosexuality?
Fine, if preventing disease is your concern (ie unprotected homosexual sex), then simply have schools discourage homosexuality all together. Since homosexuality does absolutely nothing for the gene pool, from a cost/benefit perspective anyways, there's no logical reason to discuss it in a positive light. If schools are to reference it at all, they should approach it as something to be avoided.
Which makes no sense for the purposes of education on a subject such as this. It seems, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you are under the impression that homosexuality (and sexual orientations in general) are something that is chosen. Am I correct?
No you're incorrect, I believe sexual inclination is not necessarily always something that is chosen. The sexual acts themselves, however, are most definitely a choice. So if anything has to be taught on this matter, it is that these acts are unnatural and deviant and should be overcome.
You've put yourself into a corner. You are saying that one doesn't choose the sexual orientation, which is a good start. You then say they do choose the acts (makes sense, considering most acts are indeed chosen). But you finish it up by saying the acts are unnatural, despite the fact that homosexual acts are done by dozens upon dozens of species (and the "deviancy" really is irrelevant).
So your main argument left is that it is "deviant" (aka statistically abnormal). If we refused to teach anything that was statistically abnormal, we would truly be failing our children.
Well I don't know all those homos, trannies and bisexuals that you do, so your argument amounts to nothing more than your own relative feelings. Sounds more like they could've benefited from a visit to a shrink instead.
No, but your comments re: how they needed to be taught how their "sexuality would express itself" or "thinking they were monsters and broken" or how "confused" they were, really does sound more like a professional is needed, rather than a gov't educator.
Those thoughts are what happens when people aren't educated properly on sexuality. Not including LGBT things in sex education causes these things.
Edit: To make my point clear, you said "There's no rational reason - homosexuality offers no benefit to society."
I'm arguing that teaching kids about the different kinds of sexuality is of great benefit to society, because it stops the sort of emotional angst I mentioned earlier.
You're assuming homosexuality isn't immoral, thus you claim people aren't educated "properly". I think it is immoral though, thus there's no benefit to society to teach immorality to kids. Do you think my comments on homosexuality are immoral?
I think you are sorely mistaken, and that homosexuality isn't remotely immoral. There is no reason to think that. They're not hurting anyone, it's consensual sex between willing adults, so why would it be immoral?
A man marrying his dog doesn't hurt anybody either. Do you oppose that? If so, on what basis?
Whose standard are we using for morality? I'm using God's standard, thus homosexuality is immoral. What moral authority are you appealing to, in order to claim that it isn't immoral?
Ok, so now I know why you're using that argument, but tell me why anyone else should have to adhere to it? What authority do you have to impose the idea that whatever is "safe, sane and consensual" is somehow okay? If someone disagrees with your moral code, who is right? Ultimately you're arguing for subjective morality.
Leviticus 18:22 (and elsewhere) refers to homosexuality as an abomination to God.
True, but by restricting things like LGBT lessons you too are imposing your personal moral code on others. The difference is, my moral code allows people to make their own decision (there's nothing in "safe, sane and consensual" that forces you to be homosexual), whereas refusing access to classes like this simply because they disagree with your personal beliefs causes real tangible harm to people (I made this point elsewhere on this board, but I've known a few people who thought they were broken, or monsters somehow, because they didn't know it was okay to be gay/bi/trans)
Leviticus is of the Old Testament, and that has sections that demand I be stoned to death for working on a Sunday, and its opinions on rape are frankly horrific. Why is it okay for me to wear clothes of mixed fabric (which somewhere in Deuteronomy states I'm not allowed to), but unacceptable for me to love another man?
You're approaching this as if it's "ok" to be homosexual. You presuppose that homosexuality is normal and moral - but on what basis I wonder? From a naturalistic point of view, homosexuality is abnormal and not beneficial to our species. From a moral perspective, without God there can be no objective morality, only subjective opinions, so one can't really say that it's right or wrong.
Without an objective authority, how do you claim it's "moral"?
Aside from the fact that holding up Leviticus makes you cupable for condoning murder of many, many people, who are you to tell anyone something is morally wrong if it isn't hurting anyone and is consensual?
Ultimately, you are arguing for subjective morality as well. You just don't see it as such :P
Same as you I guess, since you get to tell people that something is morally right just because it meets your arbitrary standards of being consensual and not hurtful. That's fine if you want to live that way, but why do you get to impose those standards on others?
It's actually not my subjective opinion, I'm merely a messenger reporting God's message. He's the One who decides what is and is not moral. I'm arguing for His objective morality.
That's fine if you want to live that way, but why do you get to impose those standards on others?
We are discussing an optional class on LGBT matters. That isn't imposing anything. If nobody wants the class, nobody will attend it.
It's actually not my subjective opinion, I'm merely a messenger reporting God's message.
Other people who also follow your Gods message disagree with your interpretation of it. Furthermore, there are other religions out there. Why should your chosen religion, and your chosen interpretation of said religion, dictate choices can and can not be provided to others?
No, I get to tell people that I find something to be morally right. I can also argue with people as to why the Harm Principle is, in my opinion, the most legitimate standard. As for imposition, it's the only standard that can be legitimately applied, particularly in societies predicated upon Post-Enlightenment Liberalism such as Europe and the United States. Anything beyond it is an undue infringement upon negative freedom.
And yes, it is subjective, you just don't think it is :P. You still "chose" (I hate that word as it relates to religion) your particular belief system, and your morals are still uniquely your own within that given belief system as well. So it is definitely still subjective.
Dogs are incapable of consent, either sexually (meaning that what is involved is rape and thus harming it) or legally, which means one can not marry it.
Additionally, you are using your opinion on what God's standard is; an important distinction.
Since you can not prove your morality, and nobody else can really prove their morality, why not just accept the Harm Principle and move the f--k on (I mean that for everyone, not you)?
Seriously, you can hold that it is immoral, but people still need to understand the basics of what is actually involved simple for the sake of being educated.
NO. Where does it stop? We are already seeing some bullshit about a man who swears he is a 6 year old girl. And people who are supporting pedophilia. And Bestiality. This is why my kids won't be going to a public indoctrination center before they are old enough to think for themselves. "OMG he is comparing Pedophilia to gay rights!" Yeah, so what. Every reason gays give for being gay can be used for pedophilia. If they can use those reasons why wouldn't Pedos? "Because its wrong" wasn't being gay at one point "wrong"? Where does it stop? I am all for gay rights but the LGBT cult is too far.
heterosexual sex uses the same arguments as homosexual sex. The difference between them and pedophilia or beastiality is consent. A child or animal can give no consent, and so pedophilia and beastiality are reprehensible.
"I am all for gay rights" that's a funny thing for someome who just compared gay rights to pedophilia to say
Waste of time and money what could there to teach really that one doesn't already learn in sex ed about safe sex anyway, and all the relationship material you learn can be applied to all relationships.
