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Debate Score:83
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Should Trans Kids Be Allowed To Use Their Preferred Bathrooms?

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Side Score: 41
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Side Score: 42
3 points

I wonder how many people who say "well of course not because then rapists and child molesters can go in" are the same people who say "No there shouldn't be gun control, criminals will have guns anyways!"

Do you seriously.....seriously think that a symbol on the door will deter a person who is looking to prey on a child? Really?

Those kids just want to go to the bathroom in peace, why is it that some people are almost "too" interested in who goes where to defecate?

Side: Agree
outlaw60(8861) Disputed
1 point

If i am not mistaken you have made claim to have a daughter so in your mind you don't have any problem with a confused Transgender that has entered the same restroom as your daughter.

Side: Disagree
Mint_tea(2313) Disputed
1 point

Well, based off the question you posed, with very little additional information.

Nope. That transgender, or "confused transgender" as you said, is just trying to go to the bathroom. Or are you trying to suggest that all transgender's are up to something nefarious?

Let me be clear for you. If I had even the slightest suspicion that someone, male or female was up to something, I'd be right there standing by the sink while my child was in the stalls.

Side: Agree
1 point

Because, only liberal nations have a problem with it. Other cultures that don't baby and encourage minority oppression olympics have none of these bs issues. Quit teaching those with male chromosomes that they have female chromosomes, when they don't. If you have male chromosomes, hit the male bathroom. It's not that people oppose it that is disturbing, but that people support it. Will we have trans-species next? How about tran-object. I'm a squid. I'm a lamp. Give me squid-lamp rights as a persecuted minority... Give me a break. Someone has to bring the left back to sanity.

Side: Disagree
1 point

There are a lot of arguments saying that perverts will use this as an opportunity, but what about trans women who have to go into a male bathroom? They are much more likely to be preyed on.

Side: Agree
1 point

How about just using the correct bathroom so no one has to worry about it, just like it has been for thousands of years successfully.

Side: Disagree
Person123(28) Disputed
1 point

Thousands of year ago, we all used holes in the ground. If you are uncomfortable with the bathroom situation, you're welcome to revert to doing that.

Side: Agree

Nope. If you were a 115 pound female, you should consider something.. For example? A 6'8" person who was born male and is straight goes in the bathroom with you, fully intending to rape you. You catch him in there and report him, but... he claims gender confusion, and is let go out of "tolerance". He then goes in at a later date, and no one can say anything... and he rapes your daughter.

Side: Disagree
NicolasCage(362) Disputed
5 points

If a man rapes someone they're not going to be let off because they're transgender. That's the most idiotic thing I've heard all day.

If you're worried about people's safety, try this one: a biological man who is a transgender woman is not allowed into the female toilet. She goes into the male toilet. She gets brutally beaten and probably raped herself for being a "freak".

You can't claim "oh, I'm looking out for people's safety!" when you're ignoring one of the fundamental reasons why people need these bathrooms.

Side: Agree
2 points

Sure, sure. And what happens when he claims gender rape confusion and species confusion. Do we charge him as a mentally deficient squid? And what if he's a minority AND a squid.... Oh my god....

Side: Disagree
1 point

Liberals are so far gone in the modern era, that we aren't sure that it actually is ridiculous. We used to say that tran males playing female sports would never happen and laughed. Well guess what...

Side: Disagree
1 point

Rape is still illegal. The bathroom bills don't legalize assault. Do you even know what a trans person is?

Side: Agree
-Yuri-(284) Disputed
1 point

His point is not that rape is legal. His point is a man could walk into a womens restroom molest her etc and there is no proof of it. could just say he was there for gender confusion and the women has no proof of molestation

Side: Disagree

Point? If you were born with the chromosomes of a man, you shouldn't need me to tell you which bathroom is yours. It's the "Men's". And if you can't figure that much out, I hope you don't vote or raise children. In reality, we don't care if your gay, tran, etc etc. Just go to your designated bathroom like a civilized human being in a country with laws and rules. Why? Because if you push this issue, you simply give pedophiles and rapists a loophole around the system to enter the bathroom with your daughter and molest or rape her.

http://louderwithcrowder.com/man-drops-pants-in-womens-bathroom/

http://www.youngcons.com/liberal-mom-finally-understands-bathroom-debate-when-huge-man-comes-in-womens-bathroom/

http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/the-big-list-of-bathroom-attacks/

http://conservativepost.com/muslim-immigrant-yells-allahu-akbar-and- rapes-woman-in-public-bathroom/

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/high-school-girl-raped-by-two-classmates-in-bathroom

Side: Disagree
LittleMisfit(1705) Clarified
4 points

"If you were born with the chromosomes of a man, you shouldn't need me to tell you which bathroom is yours. "

Which chromosomes make you a man? It it just people with an XY chromosome?

What about people who have XY chromosomes, but have complete androgen insensitivity syndrome, which means their bodies don’t respond at all to male hormones, so they are born with female bodies and usually live their lives as females.

What about people who have XX chromosomes, but have congenital adrenal hyperplasia, which causes an unusually high level of virilizing hormones in utero, causing them to develop masculine sexual characteristics, including masculinized genitals.

What about women with Turner syndrome who only have one X chromosome? They have less-developed female sexual characteristics than other women.

What about people who have XX chromosomes in some cells, and XY in others? People with more than 90% XY (male) genetic material have given birth.

What about people with Klinefelter syndrome, which causes them to have extra X chromosomes, like XXY, XXXY, or XXXXY. They have low levels of testosterone, causing them to have less-developed masculine sexual characteristics and more-developed feminine characteristics.

What about people with extra Y chromosomes?

So tell me, which ones of those are male and which ones are female, and what criteria did you use to make that determination?

Look, I totally get your concern, and agree with it to a certain point. If a person is not living their life as the gender they claim to be, then they have no business going into the bathroom of the gender they don't live as. IMO, if you look like a male, then use the male bathroom, and if you look like a female, use the female bathroom. Gender is a very tricky issue, both genetically and psychologically. It's definitely not as black and white as you seem to think.

Side: Agree
LichPotato(362) Clarified
1 point

What percentage of the population do you suppose people with those illnesses make up?

Side: Agree
1 point

Less developed doesn't make you a man. It makes you still a woman.

Side: Agree
1 point

which means their bodies don’t respond at all to male hormones, so they are born with female bodies and usually live their lives as females

Women's restroom

Side: Agree
1 point

What about women with Turner syndrome who only have one X chromosome? They have less-developed female sexual characteristics than other women.

Women's restroom

Side: Agree
1 point

What about people who have XX chromosomes, but have congenital adrenal hyperplasia, which causes an unusually high level of virilizing hormones in utero, causing them to develop masculine sexual characteristics, including masculinized genitals

Men's restroom

Side: Agree
1 point

What about people who have XX chromosomes in some cells, and XY in others? People with more than 90% XY (male) genetic material have given birth

That would mean they were gotten pregnant by a male and had a baby. Women's restroom.

Side: Agree
1 point

Gender is a very tricky issue, both genetically and psychologically. It's definitely not as black and white as you seem to think.

Nobody is 50/50. If you have a weenie men's restroom. You have a vagina women's bathroom. If you somehow had both, rid yourself of one, and whatever is left go there.

Side: Agree
1 point

the percentage of people you are referring too is so astoundingly low that I don't think it can be used in this argument. this argument is directed towards trans gendered people. in my opinion if they have gone through the transition and then have no a penis or vagina depending on the person. I don't care, do what you must. but if you are a fully grown man with a penis and testicles that just wears a dress then no you shouldn't be able to walk in wherever you so please. and even people in the trans community vs the amount of non trans peoples is astonishingly low. so low to a point that you are putting the majority of people at a disadvantage just to please a VERY small minority

Side: Disagree
Atrag(5123) Disputed
1 point

So without transexual laws allowing men to go into womens toilets, a pervert has to simply go in a flash a woman and promptly get arrested. With transexual laws a pervert has to dress as a woman go into the toilet flash a woman and promptly get arrested. Am I missing something?

Side: Agree
2 points

Trans kids? Those words are a complete Progressive joke!

There is no child in this world mature enough to understnd Transgender feelings or any other feelings. HE'S A CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's so sickening about these Progressive Democrats is that they do not care about our children. They care bout gettng votes from the LGBTQXYZABC lobby. It's all about money and votes and our daughters are their guinea pigs!

Side: Disagree
Person123(28) Disputed
2 points

How would you know what a child can understand. If you expect a child to make a decision about their career forever when they are 18, how can you not expect them to understand gender two years earlier? Also, you are making blatant claims with no evidence. Please state evidence for your claims that people for this only care about money and votes.

Side: Agree
FromWithin(5248) Disputed
1 point

When a person is 18 he has graduated from high school and is gaining the maturity to start making decisions concerning his life. We don't evern allow people to drink until they are 21 yet the Progressive Left thinks kids in schools are mature enough to determine they are not the sex they were born with.

GET REAL!

I have followed Politics for many years now, and understand that Politicians have one priority..... GETTING REELECTED! It takes big money from their base to do so and we all know that the base of this new age Democrat Party is very Liberal and very involved with the LGBTQXYZABC agendas.

If money and votes are not the motive for the Democrat Party's fixation with forcing every public school to allow boys in our dughter's bathrooms, then you tell me what it is.

With all the serious problems in this nation concerning our children.... failed schools, broken homes, fatherless children, kids joining gangs, education grades falling to the world, etc. etc., why on earth is there so little effort addressing these problems?

The only effort I hear about from Democrats concerning our failing grades is blocking Republican's efforts to allow school choice. Republicans are actually trying to improve our children's education rather than being fixated on LGBT agendas.

What we have is an ideological activist Democrat Party fixating on the plight of a very few so called Transgender children? These children who were born a Boy have been going into boys bathrooms since their birth and it is not an inconvienence to keep doing so. It's amazing the Democrat'a party's fixation on such minor issues ESPECIALLY when they know it is very controversial to MILLIONS of parents who want no dysfunctional boys going in their daulghter's bathrooms.

Democrats are constantly trying to push through new laws in the supreme court, that would force EVERY public school to allow boys in our daughter's bathrooms, just as they forced through new laws mandating that every State change their marriage laws?

This Democrat Party has been taken over by Liberal activists and you are truly blind not to see it. If you are not blind to what is going on, then you are one of these arrogant activists trying to force your political correct ideology onto all Americans.

Side: Disagree
1 point

Also, you are making blatant claims with no evidence

Show evidence that it's nature, and not nurture.

Side: Disagree
1 point

There is no child in this world mature enough to understnd Transgender feelings or any other feelings. HE'S A CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You think kids can't understand their gender? Wouldn't that mean that we shouldn't assign kids to be any gender until they're "mature" enough to understand it for themselves?

And before you pull out the genetailia argument, what do you suggest for intersex children?

Side: Agree
FromWithin(5248) Disputed
1 point

You just lost any chance of respect for any of your psitions on these issues.

To even suggest we should not assign the OBVIOUS gender of our children makes you someone I will not waste time debating.

Talk about dysfunctional insecurities! If you can't just be secure with who you say you are without forcing everyone else to embrace it, then what can I say. You are going to have a long hard life worrying what everyone else thinks.

Side: Disagree