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Should a parent who plans on spanking their child be allowed to have foster children?

I saw a video about a recent case on this topic. The video lays out a clear opinion and is centered around religion, which is the argument made by those in the case, but there is no need to include religion in your answer. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sdDYgf8eDg

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Side Score: 88
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I imagine that foster children will require a greater amount of discipline than the average child. Spankings may or may not help idk. All I do know is that I like people who were spanked as a child more than those who weren't. Maybe that is because only neglectful parents don't spank their children here in the South and neglect is the true cause of loathsome persons. Regardless, I am not fundamentally opposed to spankings.

Side: Yes

It is only a parent who does NOT love their children that don't spank them. I know many families that don't spank their children and those families because of it are run by the children, they run around and act like they own wherever they go and have absuletely no respect for others. Then there are the families that do spank their children and they are very well behaved and respectful, but when needed can be fun to be around. I fully support spanking.

Side: Yes

Well said.......................................................................................................

Side: Yes
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It is only a parent who does NOT love their children that don't spank them.

So if a parent doesn't beat their child, they don't love them? If they don't resort to physical violence in order to raise their child, they don't love them? I am sorry, but what the fk are you talking about?

I know many families that don't spank their children and those families because of it are run by the children, they run around and act like they own wherever they go and have absuletely no respect for others.

Pointing to a few families who fail at parenting does not prove the efficacy or legitimacy of child abuse.

Side: No
2 points

I don't believe in beating a child, beating like that would be done in anger or frustration. But one or two smacks on the butt isn't violent or abusive. Please tell me when I said that if you beat your children you love your children.

Well, than please do explain why it is all families that don't spank their children that have the kids run the family versus all families that do spank their children have well behaved children.

Side: Yes

LOL, what a shock, a Liberal trying to force us all to raise our children the way he wants us to. You controlling fanatics.

Spanking is a wonderful tool for caring parents who love their children enough to teach them right from wrong. My parents spanked me & I'm so glad they did. Guess what, I grew up with a knowledge of right and wrong. I did not grow up to be an abuser of children.

I spanked my child one time when he was 4 years old and guess what? I never had to spank him again! He was a fast learner. He always had love and respect for me and my spouse and our authority. It works wonders!

These mindless Liberals would have a child take time out! LOL you can not make up this kind of stupidity. If time out works, then fine do it. If it does not work, spank the child and teach him respect for his elders.

Why do you think we have lost control in our schools and our homes? Spanking is a wonderful tool to teach our children quick lessons that someday might save their lives.

Spanking on the rear does no harm to the child but sends a very clear message that there are consequences to bad behavior.

Now these Liberal liars will say they are talking about beating a child. LOL, look at the title!

Side: Yes
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Ah yes, trying to prevent people from physically harming a child. Such control freaks. How funny from the person who decries liberals harming children.

Spanking is a wonderful tool for caring parents who love their children enough to teach them right from wrong.

If you are incapable of teaching a child right from wrong without physically violence, you are clearly not fit to be a parent.

My parents spanked me & I'm so glad they did. Guess what, I grew up with a knowledge of right and wrong. I did not grow up to be an abuser of children.

Actually you did, based on your next line.

My parents spanked me & I'm so glad they did. Guess what, I grew up with a knowledge of right and wrong. I did not grow up to be an abuser of children.

Ah yes, the classic "Let me tell you what people I don't like think so that I can attack it". You really are the best at creating straw men.

Why do you think we have lost control in our schools and our homes? Spanking is a wonderful tool to teach our children quick lessons that someday might save their lives.

Because parents aren't spending as much time actually raising their children.

Spanking on the rear does no harm to the child but sends a very clear message that there are consequences to bad behavior.

Actually it does. Harm is, after all, synonymous with pain. That is the entire point of it.

Now these Liberal liars will say they are talking about beating a child. LOL, look at the title!

Beating: A punishment in which the victim is hit repeatedly. Spanking is simply beating a child on a particular spot.

You really have no authority to decry anyone harming children.

Side: No
TheCapConKid(293) Clarified
1 point

Lol very good point on the first statement XD

Side: Yes
1 point

Can you explain how spanking a child differs from beating them? Just curious on how it is different in your mind.

Side: No
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
1 point

Well, yes I can explain how spanking is different from beatng. The average intellect understands the difference but alas no one ever accused Liberals as being of average intellect.

A spanking is done with an open hand on a cushioned rear. If you actually think that does physical harm then what can I say, you are an extremist Liberal trying to force your hypocritical views on the world.

Does a spanking smart a little bit? Yes it does, thats why we do it. It quickly tells a 5 year old not to run out in front of cars because if he does he will get spanked. Do you think a tme out will send a clear message never ever to run out in the road? A spanking sends the message how serious we are.

You actually have the nerve to talk about the harm of spanking and say nothing while 177 Democrats refused to pass a bill that would protect a healthy late term baby after being born alive because of a botched abortion. They allow the Baby to starve to death! Less than 10 Democrats supported the Bill to save the Baby. It's called infanticide!

Can you extremists be any more out of touch with humanity? You worry about something as small a spanking a child but you vote to elect leaders who would not stop the killing of Babies after birth?

This is why I ban people. It's impossible to believe you are that deranged.

Are you Liberals on this site putting me on? Is this a joke or are you truly that brainwashed by the Left.

Side: Yes
Atrag(5666) Disputed
1 point

Spanking is a wonderful tool

Do you get some sort of sick thrill out of it? Wonderful is completely the wrong word. Necessary evil? Maybe.

Side: No
1 point

Maybe it will be sexually pleasing for all and since they are not blood relatives it isn't legally considered incest if they make a baby together. :)

Side: Yes
1 point

What is wrong with spanking a child ? And how does this tie into foster children ? Is spanking against law ?

Did you ever get swats when you were in school ? I did and it didn't have any lasting effects on me at all.

Side: Yes

Well, you obviously were spanked because you grew up to be a decent person with common sense inteligence. It takes much more than spanking to raise a child. Without love, few children will grow up without some problems in life.

When there is love, a child will understand why he was spanked. Without love, a child only sees discipline and does not understand the core reason for the discipline.

Side: Yes
Cuaroc(8829) Clarified
4 points

It's cute that you have to talk to yourself to find someone that agrees with you.

Side: Yes
Prodigee1(6) Disputed
1 point

Seriously dude? You have mistakenly posted FromWithins messages on Outlaws account before. You are clearly the same guy. Schooled by the Prodigee. Fool!

Side: No
1 point

That is just sad, and very much illegal. Acting as a different identity is quite illegal and could land you in prison.

Side: No
pirateelfdog(2655) Clarified
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So if someone beats their child out of love, it is justified?

Side: Yes
1 point

A child needs a spank every now and then when they've done wrong. It's how they learn the proper way. Britain was basically born from mothers spanking their devilish children and look at us. We've got a bit of a knob as prime minister, a knob as every other member of parliament (except a few, of course), yet we've got everyone trying to get in to our country for something. We must've done something right.

Side: Yes
1 point

Let me qualify that. If s/he "plans" to do it, probably not, but if s/he feels, "I will if it's necessary." Then s/he - they - should be considered over those who wouldn't! I got it with whatever was handy, belt, razor strop, switch, 2x4, hammer handle, etc. I don't recommend, nor have I followed that example, but, DAMN, I've seen a few who sorely (no pun intended), needed a "reasonable" facsimile thereof!

Side: Yes
1 point

A parent who plans on spanking their children should not be allowed to have children at all...

Side: No
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
1 point

How old are you? You can't be that stupid can you? A parent who does not plan on spanking their children is a simple minded tool who allows these PC Liberal extremists to tell them how to raise their children. We have been spanking our kids for thousands of years with great results and all of a sudden after fools start swallowing Liberal indoctrination, our kids are all messed up, joning gangs, sexually active, taking drugs, dropping out of schools, horrible test scores compared to the world. Would you have done your homework if the punishment was time out? LOL,can Liberals be any more stupid.

Side: Yes
3 points

How old are you? You can't be that stupid can you?

Being against child abuse is not stupid.

A parent who does not plan on spanking their children is a simple minded tool who allows these PC Liberal extremists to tell them how to raise their children.

Nope, they are just a parent who doesn't have to resort to beating their child in order to raise them. It's called good parenting.

We have been spanking our kids for thousands of years with great results and all of a sudden after fools start swallowing Liberal indoctrination,

Not only is that an appeal to history logical fallacy, but it is a bad one at that. We have been beating our children far worse than spanking for thousands of years, so do you want to bring that back? We have been selling our daughters as little more than slaves for thousands of years, do you want to bring that back?

our kids are all messed up, joning gangs, sexually active, taking drugs, dropping out of schools, horrible test scores compared to the world.

Not only have you been provided with real statistics disputing this trend you have touted before, but you have not once provided any evidence to back up this claim.

Would you have done your homework if the punishment was time out? LOL,can Liberals be any more stupid.

If you do not know how to discipline a child without beating them, you should not be questioning the intelligence of others.

Side: No
3 points

A parent who does not plan on spanking their children is a simple minded tool who allows these PC Liberal extremists to tell them how to raise their children.

Um, isn't that you telling others how to raise children?

If it's wrong to tell someone to not spank their child, is it wrong to tell them not to beat their child? (Assuming you don't count spanking as beating.) Is it wrong to tell them not to starve their child?

Side: No
Iulmi(252) Disputed
1 point

Our kids are all messed up, joning gangs, sexually active (ahem ?), taking drugs, dropping out of schools (universities), horrible test scores compared to the world.

That sounds just like many adults are doing too... why don't we beat them also?

Side: No