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Yes of course it should be and to deny it is to deny a right a woman has over her own body , denial of this right is unjust and unfair
From HRO
Human Rights Watch believes that decisions about abortion belong to a pregnant woman without interference by the state or others.
The denial of a pregnant woman's right to make an independent decision regarding abortion violates or poses a threat to a wide range of human rights. Any restriction on abortion that unreasonably interferes with a woman's exercise of her full range of human rights is unacceptable.
Governments should take all necessary steps, both immediate and incremental, to ensure that women have informed and free access to safe and legal abortion services as an element of women's exercise of their reproductive and other human rights.
It's not the woman's body, it's the fetus' body. Why shouldn't the fetus have the right to live? It's not harming the mother at all. Denial of this right is unjust and unfair.
The denial of the pregnant woman's right doesn't affect other human rights. The only right that abortion threatens is the fetus' life.
1. I never said that the woman was living inside a fetus. Where in the world did you get that idea? I'm stating that the fetus is its own body, which the mother has no control over.
2. All your saying is that the fetus has zero rights, try actually giving me a full explanation of why a fetus is so different from a full grown person in terms of human rights to life.
3. Just because the mother doesn't want it, it doesn't mean that the fetus is physically harming the mother in any way.
4. What's your point? You can say that it's my opinion but it all comes down to the lives of humans and their rights. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's good.
5. So the fetus has no right to life? So should none of us have a right to life life then because we were fetuses at one point?
6. So you don't care about human lives? So are you ok with people dying, and murdering others?
7. Why should we let the woman choose? You act like the fetus is just property, like some lifeless piece of meat. What is this, slavery with fetuses?
1. Yes, that's exactly what I said. It's the fetus's body, and not the woman's. They are two separate entities. And also your mistaken, I don't work at a circus.
2. No, the woman doesn't have total control of the fetus, because that would be like slavery. The fetus isn't property.
3. Fetus=human. Humans have human rights. A fetus is not some object. It is a human life, and humans have rights, so in this case, the fetus has a right to life.
4. I give lots of arguments that are backed up with claims and evidence, and I've been doing that for a while. But do I get tired of it? No, so how about you quit whining, and actually give facts if you have any. This is a debate website after all.
5. So if there's someone bothering me I should just kill them because I don't like having them around? I think you should give a better argument than just saying, "Because I don't want it." Besides, there's a thing called adoption.
6. "Abortion is legal" What kind of argument is that?
7. Well there's a lot of Republicans that think abortion should be illegal. And no, abortion isn't something good. It's murder, and murder is immoral.
8. Again, all you say is that the fetus has no right to life, almost makes you sound evil. And again, I keep saying it does because the fetus is a human, and humans have rights. Maybe not to vote, but certainly to life.
9. So if you care about human lives, why don't you care about fetuses? They're human lives.
So if you don't agree with murder, why do you agree with murdering a fetus? Again, it's a human.
10. For the hundredth time, it's not her body. The fetus is not some extra limb, or some random object. It's its own body. It's not the property of the woman.
11. Well you pretty much do since you're saying the fetus has no right to life, the woman gets to decide what to do with it, and that it's not human.
1. Nonsense? How is it nonsense? It's the fetus' right to live, and I'm saying that the mother has no control over it. But just because abortion is legal, it doesn't mean that it's right. Tell me, do you believe that living beings should be killed? If not, why should killing a fetus be any different?
2. It's not true? Let me give you the facts. The fetus has its own genetic makeup, and genetic code, and its own bodily structure, that in no way is the exact same as the mother. But it does have similar DNA from its parents. It also has a mind, and can move a bit. The only thing that keeps the fetus and the mother attached is the umbilical cord. The umbilical cord is used to give the fetus nutrients, since the fetus can't be fed by hand, and no other food can be given to the fetus through the womb. The fetus isn't a body part like the ear, eye, arm, or leg. Our limbs don't have minds of their own, unlike the fetus. We have control over our limbs, but not the fetus, because the fetus is a separate entity. And if you say that the woman DOES control the fetus because abortion is legal, you're wrong, because the fetus has its own body with its genetic makeup, and has a mind, and DOES have its rights to life.
3. I wouldn't say that working in a circus is much of an opportunity. Also, there's a lot of other jobs out there that are a lot better than working at a circus. Besides, I don't work yet.
4. Again, the woman has no control of the fetus. I've stated this in my second paragraph.
5. It's practically like slavery, since you say the woman has total control over the fetus. That's what slavery is based on, having control over another person, in this case, the fetus, which is a human life, according to science.
6. In terms of science, and simple common sense, the fetus is a human. Why should the woman have the right to murder a human fetus? You better not say because abortion is legal, because that's not a good argument.
7. The fetus is still a fetus, but it's a HUMAN fetus, which in fact makes it a human life.
8. What exactly makes it a "potential" human life? It's already a human in terms of science. It shows human traits, which will make the fetus become a baby, but it's still a human. So it's not a potential human, just a potential new born.
9. Abortion may be legal, but it's the equivalent of making murder legal towards specific beings.
10. The fact that you fail to recognize the statistics and claims that I've made, makes you foolish and ignorant. You just act like that to make yourself look better, and make me seem like the one who is foolish.
11. You don't even know how long I've been debating, so you can't say anything about me. I've been debating way before I found this website.
12. I have to repeat myself several times because of the fact that you completely ignore everything I say. And I'm not saying "because I say so" all the time, in fact I've never even said it.
13. I don't whine about the fact that abortion is legal. I don't whine about things in general. But I choose to support the rights of fetuses. But you're the one who keeps talking about killing fetuses, and saying it's okay to do it.
14. Do I need the help of an adult? No, I'm fully capable of understanding your stupid statements. And again, you have no veracity in your statements at all. I actually give full in paragraphs filled with claims, evidence, and facts. But part of the time is me trying to correct you in your bad statements.
15. Yes , you’re on the wrong site
See, this is what I'm talking about, you have the most stupid statements, that have no basis. Why is it so hard for you to make an actually good argument, that doesn't include anything stupid?
16. I didn’t say that either
Well it's pretty much what you're saying. Because the woman doesn't want the fetus, she should kill it. That's what you're basically saying.
17. And a thing called ........abortion
And you think killing the fetus is better? Adoption actually saves the child instead of terminating it.
18. It’s not an argument it’s a statement of fact
It may be a fact that killing fetuses is legal, but it's just wrong to do that. Murder is illegal, therefore aborting a fetus is murder, and should be illegal.
19. So what ?
I could say the same thing about lawmakers agreeing with you. So what? They agree with you that murdering fetuses is ok.
20. Merely an appeal to emotion
Simple common sense can tell you that murdering fetuses is wrong.
21. It’s not , why aren’t women jailed for murder , bet you cannot answer .....again
You must be stupid to think that aborting a fetus isn't murder. To murder someone is to take their life, and in this case you're taking the life of a human fetus. The only thing keeping women from being jailed for murder is because abortion is legal. You thought I couldn't answer? Think again.
22. Don’t murder then
Exactly, so you should stop agreeing with the fact that murdering fetuses is a good thing. Or even better, how about we make abortion illegal.
23. That’s enough of an argument as it’s factually accurate
It's good enough of an argument if you actually back up your claims. But actually, what you say isn't factual, because fetuses are humans, and that's a scientific fact. And since it's human, it has rights to life.
24. Well , no it’s not
Well, yes it is according to science.
25. So it seems as women are allowed abort
Well fetuses have the right to life, which puts that over the woman's choice. The woman can't dictate the life of the fetus.
26. Certainly not
Why not?
27. The fetus is secondary to the woman
What makes the fetus less important than the woman?
28. Because it’s not murder
Let me give the definition of murder.
mur·der
ˈmərdər/Submit
noun
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
So tell me, how is it not murder?
29. Again it’s not
I've told you countless times already that it is a human.
30. It’s not and if it was I don’t care
Well it is. It's a separate body, it has its own brain and mind, it's own limbs, and it's own genetic code. So you don't care? How heartless are you?
31. Well it’s on her “ property “
What property does the woman have?
32. It has zero rights
It has its right to life.
33. Yep
Nope, the woman doesn't get to control the life of another human being.
34. That’s right remember ..... A potential human
What exactly make the fetus a potential human, and not just human?
What the hell is that supposed to mean? This is a debate website, not an emoji website. I asked questions that you still haven't answered yet. You asked me to give you evidence and claims, and I already did, and I'm still waiting for your claims. But if you can't debate me, and choose to fool around, that's your loss. Go find someone else to troll.
I'm mocking you because you're entirely mockworthy and like other individuals on this " debate " your only arguments are appeals to emotion as in you simply say a fetus has a right to life and it's murder because you say so
A fetus has zero rights and if so why is abortion legal ?
Why are women not jailed for murder ?
All you lot can do is wail " well they they should have rights and it's not murder " which are appeals to emotion making your " argument ridiculous and childish
I'm anti guns imagine if I said " well guns should not allowed in society because they're lethal weapons " I bet you would say well it's law and it's our right " so do you understand now why your argument is ridiculous and childish ?
This isn't a mocking website either. You asked for the facts, and I gave you them. Is that not enough for you? At this point you probably just don't have anything else to say, so you just twist my words, and say other random things. My arguments aren't just appeal to emotion. I actually gave scientific facts, combined with human rights, and morality. I never said "because I say so" because that wouldn't be much of an argument. All you're doing now, is just attacking me, mocking me, calling me names, not answering my questions, and ignoring the statements I've made.
The fetus does have its rights to live, and the only reason they can be aborted legally, is because of Roe v Wade, which made abortion legal.
The only reason women aren't jailed for murder is because the law protects them from being jailed. It's that simple.
And all you can do is mock me, call names, not answer my questions, and ignore the facts. That makes you childish. I actually gave my reasons, but you completely ignore them. Why is that?
" well guns should not allowed in society because they're lethal weapons "
Well knives are lethal weapons too, why aren't they banned? You know, if you do your research, you would find that diseases, and accidents kill way more people than guns. That's a fact. Guns are weapons, but their main purpose was to be used to protect us from tyranny. That's also a fact. Guns weren't made for murder and mass shootings. People kill people, not guns, or knives. When cops show up to the scene, do they arrest the shooter, or the gun? Obviously, they would arrest the shooter.
" I bet you would say well it's law and it's our right "
Did I say that? No, which makes you wrong.
so do you understand now why your argument is ridiculous and childish ?
No, I don't understand, because that wasn't my argument. I actually gave the facts. But as with you, you say "Abortion is legal, fetuses have no rights, it's the woman's body so it's her choice." You just state things with no basis. Unlike you, I actually give good reasons for my statements, and you don't, that's the difference.
At this point you probably just don't have anything else to say, so you just twist my words,
I don’t have to as you speak gibberish mainly
and say other random things.
Other random things .... just said it again 🙀
My arguments aren't just appeal to emotion.
They are , break out the violins
I actually gave scientific facts,
Not one so far
combined with human rights
No your “version “ of human rights
, and morality.
Yes you do moralise a bit
I never said "because I say so" because that wouldn't be much of an argument.
But yet you keep using it , bet you do it again
All you're doing now, is just attacking me, mocking me, calling me names, not answering my questions, and ignoring the statements I've made.
Nonsense
The fetus does have its rights to live,
Here we go , I told you it’s wrong because you say so , told you it’s your only argument
and the only reason they can be aborted legally, is because of Roe v Wade, which made abortion legal.
Yes it’s legal so stop whining
The only reason women aren't jailed for murder is because the law protects them from being jailed. It's that simple.
Yes because they’ve done nothing wrong
And all you can do is mock me, call names, not answer my questions, and ignore the facts.
Nonsense read above
That makes you childish. I actually gave my reasons, but you completely ignore them. Why is that?
Read above
Well knives are lethal weapons too, why aren't they banned? You know, if you do your research, you would find that diseases, and accidents kill way more people than guns. That's a fact. Guns are weapons, but their main purpose was to be used to protect us from tyranny. That's also a fact. Guns weren't made for murder and mass shootings. People kill people, not guns, or knives. When cops show up to the scene, do they arrest the shooter, or the gun? Obviously, they would arrest the shooter.
But I disagree with guns and because it’s legal doesn’t make it right because I say so .... using your exact argument
I say that? No, which makes you wrong
so do you understand now why your argument is ridiculous and childish ?
What are you babbbling about
. But as with you, you say "Abortion is legal, fetuses have no rights, it's the woman's body so it's her choice." You just state things with no basis.
But the law agrees with me making you wrong ....again
Unlike you, I actually give good reasons for my statements, and you don't, that's the difference
Oh yeah , it’s wrong because you don’t approve .... you guys need a new argument
What do you mean stop doing then? I never mocked you, not once. You were the one who claimed to mock me. What you're doing is being a hypocrite.
No you gave me your emotional opinion
Once again you have ignored the facts. I literally gave you scientific facts. I've stated that biologically the fetus is a human, since it has its own genetic makeup, and its own DNA. This isn't an emotional opinion, just a scientific fact.
Afraid not
Apparently facts don't matter to you.
I don’t have to as you speak gibberish mainly
Well you did, since you're saying that I said "because I say so." Also, I'm not speaking gibberish, not even close.
Other random things .... just said it again 🙀
🙀
They are , break out the violins
No they're not, I've actually stated scientific facts, and applied human rights to it.
Not one so far
I'm not one for calling names, but you are actually dumb for not seeing what I've said in my previous argument. I've actually stated a scientific fact, and also said that it was a scientific fact.
No your “version “ of human rights
I'm not making up my "version" of human rights. Since the fetus is considered a human by scientific definition, the fetus does have rights to life.
Yes you do moralise a bit
Ok, so what's your point?
But yet you keep using it , bet you do it again
But yet I keep telling you that I'm not. YOURE the one putting words into my mouth.
Nonsense
Nonsense? Do honestly think this is nonsense? At this point you're basically lying. You're the one who called me a jackass, a clown, said I had genetic stupidity, and mocked me. Those are the exact things you've said to me.
Here we go , I told you it’s wrong because you say so , told you it’s your only argument
I never said "because I said so." It's not the only argument I use. I said that the fetus is a human based on scientific definition. The Constitution says all men are created equal, and that we have the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. Since the fetus is human, it has these rights. Also, the fetus IS a separate entity since it has its own genetic makeup, and its own mind. Also, it's not the same as the mother, and since it is human, is its own body, and has the rights to life, the woman cannot dictate the life of the fetus.
Yes it’s legal so stop whining
It may be legal, but it's still bad since abortion is equal to murder. I'm not the one whining. Do you even know what whining is?
Yes because they’ve done nothing wrong
You think that wishing the death of another human isn't wrong?
Nonsense read above
What you're saying is nonsense. You've called me names, throwed insults and mocked me, which you've admitted to doing.
Read above
I asked you a question Dermot, now answer it instead of saying "nonsense."
But I disagree with guns and because it’s legal doesn’t make it right because I say so .... using your exact argument
That's not using my exact argument. I don't say, "because I say so." But guns are different than abortions. Owning a gun is legal because of the Constitution, and the reason behind it by the founding fathers. The sole purpose was to protect us from harm, not to cause mass shootings. A majority of gun owning citizens are law abiding. But there are those who are either mentally ill, those who steal by using guns and killing people, or ones who commit suicide. They're the ones in control of the guns, not the other way around. They just use guns because it's the most effective way to kill. But that's where the second amendment comes in and protects us. Those who are in danger can use their guns to protect themselves. And then you have the police who also use guns to protect us. Abortions have killed more innocent lives than guns. That's also a fact.
What are you babbbling about
I'm not babbling.
But the law agrees with me making you wrong ....again
Actually, you agree with the law, therefore you agree with murder. When have you made me wrong?
Oh yeah , it’s wrong because you don’t approve .... you guys need a new argument
Abortion is wrong because it's equal to murder. You are taking the life of a fetus. According to science, the fetus is a human. Therefore, you are taking the life of a human being, and taking the life of a human being is immoral, and can get you put in jail for that. The only reason doctors and mothers aren't put in jail is because of the fact that abortion was made legal in 1973. What other argument do you want? Again, I'm giving my arguements, and backing them up with claims and evidence. What other arguments am I supposed to give? I'm literally giving you the facts which you completely ignore. You're the one who needs a new argument instead of, "Nonsense, you're speaking gibberish, stop whining, I'm making you wrong.... again, you're still not giving me facts, the fetus has no rights, the law agrees with me," and calling me a jackass.
Oh dry up with your emotional caterwauling , here you go buddy .....
Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.
holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.
Do you get it now and do you know what a right is ?
Abortion is legal suck it up and get a new tune pity some of you Americans only recognise “ rights “ that allow you to carry a piece 👋👋👋👌☺️
Oh dry up with your emotional caterwauling , here you go buddy .....
Who said I was getting emotional?
The woman may have the right to abortion, but you still fail to realize that murdering a fetus is immoral, and that scientifically speaking, the fetus is a human, and that is a fact. And yes, I know what a right is, and it's the same thing that fetuses have. Also you seem to be ignoring scientific facts, which I thought you liked.
Abortion is legal suck it up and get a new tune pity some of you Americans only recognise “ rights “ that allow you to carry a piece 👋👋👋👌☺️
Fetuses are humans and they have rights, so stop saying that murdering fetuses is fine, because it's not.
If fetuses don't have rights to life, why were some of us even born? Shouldn't the rest of us have been killed off since we never did have a right to life in the first place?
Oh dry up with your emotional caterwauling , why not get a good law degree and go change the law you dislike so much and maybe introduce a ..... crybaby law for people like you 😿😿😿
.....
Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.
holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.
Do you get it now and do you know what a right is ?
Abortion is legal suck it up and get a new tune pity some of you Americans only recognise “ rights “ that allow you carry a “piece “
Oh dry up with your emotional caterwauling , why not get a good law degree and go change the law you dislike so much and maybe introduce a ..... crybaby law for people like you 😿😿😿
Again, I'm not crying. Why do you always assume that I cry anyway? Getting a law degree isn't of my interests. I'm not a crybaby, so quit it with the name calling, it's getting old.
Why are you repeating the same thing again? All you're saying is what happened in the court case. Yes I know what a right is, I already told you.
Oh dry up with your emotional caterwauling , why not get a good law degree and go change the law you dislike so much and maybe introduce a ..... crybaby law for people like you 😿😿😿
.....
Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.
holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.
Do you get it now and do you know what a right is ?
Abortion is legal suck it up and get a new tune pity some of you Americans only recognise “ rights “ when it’s comes to guns
Just as I thought, you're a troll that can't give any good arguments, and always dismisses the facts I give you. Still yet, you haven't answered my question as to why the rest of us were able to become babies and be born, if we don't have the right to life.
You're a prize idiot and a pathetic troll , you ask
I'm no prize idiot or troll.
I couldn't care less if the mother wants to keep the fetus or abort it all I care about is her body , her choice but you idiots still don't get it
Ok, now I'm getting annoyed by your stupidity. It's not her choice to determine the life of the fetus, because the fetus has its right to live. Why don't you understand that the fetus is a human being, and that abortion is equal to murder? It's the fetuses body, not the woman's you idiot. The only thing keeping them attached is the umbilical cord, and that's it. I'm surprised you still don't get it, no matter how many facts I've given. But I forgot, you're just a liberal snowflake, that lacks logic and simple common sense.
It's her right to choose you idiot
No it's not you idiot, the fetus isn't property, and the woman doesn't dictate the fetuses life. The fetus is a human based on science, so that means it has a right to life, which puts it over the woman's choice.
Do you work at being stupid or does it come naturally?
No I don't work at being stupid, or whatever you say. If anything, you're the one being stupid. I'm the one giving evidence and claims, and you're not, so how on Earth can you say that I'm being stupid? All that you have said, is complete nonsense and cancer.
You are an idiot but I'm guessing you cannot help it as you were born with the intelligence of a pot plant , you certainly are a troll also
Ok, now I'm getting annoyed by your stupidity.
Says the all American dummy
It's not her choice to determine the life of the
fetus
It is you dummy / idiot /clown /troll /redneck
idiot otherwise why is she allowed do it ?
Because it's her right you clown that's why
because the fetus has its right to live
Prove it ? The fetus has zero rights you dummy why not study American law ?
. Why don't you understand that the fetus is a human being,
Look up the term human being you stupid troll
and that abortion is equal to murder?
Well get the police go down to an abotrtion clinic and tell the cops to arrest everyone , then watch as they haul you off to the looney bin
It's the fetuses body, not the woman's you idiot.
Look up the term body you clown and even if I agreed so what ?
The only thing keeping them attached is the umbilical cord, and that's it.
So what ?
I'm surprised you still don't get it, no matter how many facts I've given.
What facts dummy ? I get it you're against women having rights , the land of the "free" my ass
But I forgot, you're just a liberal snowflake, that lacks logic and simple common sense.
I'm not American you retard , bet you're from a family of gun toting rednecks who believe the earth is flat and don't trust those city slicker types 👋👋😂
No it's not you idiot,
Get an adult from an educated family to explain to you why she's allowed abort then you troll , because it's her right in Law
the fetus isn't property, and the woman doesn't dictate the fetuses life
Why is she allowed abort then ?
. The fetus is a human based on science, so that means it has a right to life,
You better change the law to bring in the new law you just passed
which puts it over the woman's choice.
Nope , that's why she can abort you dolt because the fetus has zero rights ..,, still
No I don't work at being stupid,
Ah it's genetic so
If anything, you're the one being stupid. I'm the one giving evidence and claims, and you're not,
Everyone of them purely of your own invention and your still crying😭😭😭
so how on Earth can you say that I'm being stupid? All that you have said, is complete nonsense and cancer.
You and madfly and J hiv should all form a crybaby group get together and march on Washington to explain your new version of American law , if that fails get your folks KKK flaming torchs and burn down the White House or maybe have a lynching or two ,🙀🙀🙀
You are an idiot but I'm guessing you cannot help it as you were born with the intelligence of a pot plant , you certainly are a troll also
Lmao you really don't have any idea what you're saying because no one is born with the intelligence of a pot plant dumbass. Im not a troll, how about you look up the definition for it.
Says the all American dummy
Even though I've provided you with facts you still call me a dummy, what a sad life you have.
It is you dummy / idiot /clown /troll /redneck
idiot otherwise why is she allowed do it ?
Because it's her right you clown that's why
No it's not, just because the law says so doesn't mean it's right. I'm not a clown, I don't work at a circus. Also what's the point of calling me all those names at once?
Prove it ? The fetus has zero rights you dummy why not study American law ?
Prove it? I just did. I said that since the fetus is a human based on scientific fact, it has rights. How many times do I have to repeat myself. I did study the law, but is it really a good law? No, because it kills human fetuses. Why the hell don't you understand?
Look up the term human being you stupid troll
Ok then.
hu·man
ˈ(h)yo͞omən/Submit
adjective
1.
relating to or characteristic of people or human beings.
a human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien.
synonyms: person, human being, personage, mortal, member of the human race;
So if you say that the fetus isn't a human, what is it then, an alien?
Well get the police go down to an abotrtion clinic and tell the cops to arrest everyone , then watch as they haul you off to the looney bin
I don't even know what you're trying to say. I'm trying to get you to understand that abortion is equal to murder, because you are taking the life of someone else, in this case the fetus. The only reason that it's not classified as murder is because of the stupid law.
What facts dummy ? I get it you're against women having rights , the land of the "free" my ass
What facts? Really, you don't remember the scientific facts I gave you in the arguments I've given? How blind are you? I said that the fetus is a human by scientific definition. It has its own body, with its own DNA and genetic makeup, so that makes it a seperate entity. And since it is human it has rights which should put it over the women's choice. I'm not against women having rights, I'm against the killing of fetuses. There's a difference. Abortion may be classified as a right, but it's wrong.
I'm not American you retard , bet you're from a family of gun toting rednecks who believe the earth is flat and don't trust those city slicker types 👋👋😂
I don't care if you're American dumbass, it's you're policies that make you a snowflake. I don't believe the Earth is flat stupid, but you probably do.
Get an adult from an educated family to explain to you why she's allowed abort then you troll , because it's her right in Law
I don't need an adult, I already know why she's able to abort. It's because of the stupid law that grants women the right to murder fetuses. And you think that's ok?
Why is she allowed abort then ?
First of all, work on your grammar. Second, it's because of the law that grants her that right, which she shouldn't have.
You better change the law to bring in the new law you just passed
I didn't pass a law, wtf are you talking about. I just stated a fact.
Nope , that's why she can abort you dolt because the fetus has zero rights ..,, still
She can abort because of the law, not because the fetus has no rights. Do you still not understand that a fetus is a human in scientific terms?
Ah it's genetic so
It's not, so quit assuming that it's genetic. I wasn't born as a retard.
Everyone of them purely of your own invention and your still crying😭😭😭
My own invention? Wrong again, I've stated facts from science to back up my claims, and I got them from websites, and I've done my research. And I'm not crying, do you even know what crying is?
You and madfly and J hiv should all form a crybaby group get together and march on Washington to explain your new version of American law , if that fails get your folks KKK flaming torchs and burn down the White House or maybe have a lynching or two ,🙀🙀🙀
Haha funny joke, and I'm still not crying, and never will. It's not a new version of American Law, simply just fact that you choose to ignore.
Is it not embarrassing for a redneck like you that a European has to educate you in things a child over here knows ?
No, it's not. I'm not even a redneck, I don't know why you keep saying false things. But you're not educating me in anything. The only thing I learned from you is how stupid you are. Honestly, I don't think children over there know that many things about America, maybe some things, but not a lot.
Run along ask your dad to get your colouring book and crayons and write all this down and read it twice a day until " the penny drops "
Hey I'm not that young. Little kids use coloring books, not me.
I've corrected your stupidity previously on Evolution and you never thanked me so here you go yet again
What did you correct me on in the evolution debate? And why would I thank you? You don't seem like a nice person, maybe that's an Italian thing.
Here's your childish crybaby argument below ,
The only reason that it's not classified as murder is because of the stupid law.
That's your whole dumb argument the law is stupid
making you a big crybaby who because he is a dummy cannot accept a right guaranteed under law
First of all work on you're grammar. You keep saying how you're better than me in everything yet you can't even spell correctly. Second, I was stating why abortion wasn't considered murder. It wasn't my entire argument for this debate. That was the first time I said that the law was stupid, I never used it as a proper argument you idiot. How exactly does that make me a crybaby? Who even says that anymore? I'm saying that I don't agree with abortion because it is equal to murder, and murder is wrong. Why don't you understand that? I already know that abortion is a law, but it's still bad.
Evolution is accepted as fact
So? Who cares if it's a fact or not, it doesn't have anything to do with abortion.
Women have a right to abort
You say they shouldn't because you say so
So what, lawmakers said that women have a right to abort because "they say so?" I actually gave my claims to support my arguments.
Abortion is legal
You say it shouldn't be because you say so
I say it shouldn't because abortion is murder (I gave my evidence). Also same question as the one above.
Congratulations you're now a fully paid up member of the knuckle dragging half- wit mob
I have no idea what kind of imaginary group you just made up, but I'm certainly not part of it. Good luck on getting other members though.
13 year old kids over here know more about American law than you idiotic rednecks
Are you sure? Like, 100% sure? Because I don't think that foreigners know everything about America. I'm really not convinced, unless you can provide evidence, and then I'll believe you.
Still crying I see 😭😭😭😭😭 Why don't you and your fellow rednecks March up to Washington and tell them "
I don't know how old you are, but you still don't know what crying is, because you just keep saying that as a bad insult. I'm not even crying, you can't see through the screen.
City slicker type fellers "you don't like your constitution because it's wrong because you say so ?
When did I say because I say so? Tell me, when did I say that. I'm against the abortion law because it's equal to murder, and murder is wrong, therefore it should be illegal. Why don't you get it?
Evolution is accepted as fact
So if evolution is accepted as fact then why can't fetuses being considered humans be accepted as fact too?
I don't know how old you are, but you still don't know what crying is, because you just keep saying that as a bad insult. I'm not even crying, you can't see through the screen.
But my I pad is floating in your redneck tears
When did I say because I say so?
Wait , let’s see .....
Tell me, when did I say that.
Wait ......
I'm against the abortion law because it's equal to murder, and murder is wrong, therefore it should be illegal
😂😂😂 There you go you dumb redneck and in your own words , unless you deny it ?
. Why don't you get it?
I do , I just pointed out again how dense you are
So if evolution is accepted as fact then why can't fetuses being considered humans be accepted as fact too?
Because it’s not a fact unless you can prove conclusively otherwise ........ schooled again buddy ...... hey , have another cry in with your redneck buddies 😢😢😢
😂😂😂 There you go you dumb redneck and in your own words , unless you deny it ?
What are you talking about? I can easily say you're argument is bad because of you saying "It has no rights because the lawmakers said so." Also im not a redneck.
I do , I just pointed out again how dense you are
Clearly you don't since you still believe that murdering fetuses is still ok.
Because it’s not a fact unless you can prove conclusively otherwise ........ schooled again buddy ...... hey , have another cry in with your redneck buddies 😢😢😢
It is fact that science says that fetuses are human. I've done my research, and I've looked it up. But I mean, it should be simple common sense to say that fetuses are humans. They resemble us, in which thy have eyes, arms, legs, fingers, toes, and brains. They look almost like us, and they also come from humans, so I can't see why you wouldn't consider a fetus human. If it's not human as you put, then what is it, an alien?
What are you talking about? I can easily say you're argument is bad because of you saying "It has no rights because the lawmakers said so."
Yes , just like I can say that the right to carry a gun is a bad argument because lawmakers say so
Clearly you don't since you still believe that murdering fetuses is still ok.
If s woman is " murdering " why do the police not charge her ? Bet you won't answer again
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It is fact that science says that fetuses are human.
I've done my research, and I've looked it up. But I mean, it should be simple common sense to say that fetuses are humans. They resemble us, in which thy have eyes, arms, legs, fingers, toes, and brains. They look almost like us, and they also come from humans, so I can't see why you wouldn't consider a fetus human.
Say if I even agreed with your assessment, so what ?
If it's not human as you put, then what is it, an alien?
Yes , just like I can say that the right to carry a gun is a bad argument because lawmakers say so
Saying that the right to carry a gun is a fact, but not much of an argument. Our founding fathers decided to have the second amendment because it would help the people, in which it would protect us from those who try to harm us.
If s woman is " murdering " why do the police not charge her ? Bet you won't answer again
I'm not going to bother answering this question again because I already answered it. But you have to realize that it's technically murder, even though there is a law that says you can abort fetuses.
Say if I even agreed with your assessment, so what ?
Then you would realize that murdering fetuses is wrong. They're humans, just like us, so technically murdering a fetus is wrong, just like murdering an adult is wrong.
Saying that the right to carry a gun is a fact, but not much of an argument. Our founding fathers decided to have the second amendment because it would help the people, in which it would protect us from those who try to harm us.
Actually it was a misinterpretation of the second that allows you to carry guns , and so what either way slavery was allowed under your constitution
I'm not going to bother answering this question again because I already answered it.
No you haven’t
But you have to realize that it's technically murder, even though there is a law that says you can abort fetuses.
“Technically” it’s not
Then you would realize that murdering fetuses is wrong
No murder going on and saying it’s wrong because you say so is a pretty poor argument
. They're humans, just like us, so technically murdering a fetus is wrong, just like murdering an adult is wrong.
Actually it was a misinterpretation of the second that allows you to carry guns , and so what either way slavery was allowed under your constitution
But having slavery isn't right. In the North, slavery was banned, but in the South it was legal, and that was one reason the Civil War started. But take a look at society now. There is no slavery.
No you haven’t
Yes I have. How about you look back at the arguments we had, and you can see that you asked that same question, and I answered it. But if you want it again, fine. It's because the law keeps women from being charged with murder, since abortion is legal.
“Technically” it’s not
Oh really? Explain to why it's not murder. But leave aside the fact that abortion is legal, because that's the only argument you use. I want you to explain why it's not murder if you're taking the life of a fetus.
“ Technically “ it’s still not
So really, you think that the difference between murdering a fetus and an adult is just age difference. Because apparently you think the older the human, the more rights it has. So tell me, what's the big difference between murdering a fetus and a human? Why is it ok to kill one but not the other? Why is age so important in this matter?
But having slavery isn't right. In the North, slavery was banned, but in the South it was legal, and that was one reason the Civil War started. But take a look at society now. There is no slavery.
Yes , what’s your point ?
Yes I have.
No you haven’t .
How about you look back at the arguments we had, and you can see that you asked that same question, and I answered it. But if you want it again, fine.
Good
It's because the law keeps women from being charged with murder, since abortion is legal.
Yes and you disagree with the law except when it suits you
Oh really?
Yes
Explain to why it's not murder.
Because a fetus has zero rights to life , it’s granted life or not by the mother who’s body it is using by permission
But leave aside the fact that abortion is legal, because that's the only argument you use.
It’s not your failure to acknowledge that is a continuing problem for you
I want you to explain why it's not murder if you're taking the life of a fetus.
Read above , or yet again ...... Any supposed “rights “ a fetus has should always be secondary to a woman’s rights when it comes to abortion , why do you grant the fetus a right over a woman’s right to choice ?
So really, you think that the difference between murdering a fetus and an adult is just age difference.
Read above
Because apparently you think the older the human, the more rights it has.
Never once said that read above
So tell me, what's the big difference between murdering a fetus and a human?
Again read above
Why is it ok to kill one but not the other?
Still read above
Why is age so important in this matter?
How do you fail to answer the one question time and time again and not attempt one answer to what I keep asking you regards the rights of a woman in the matter ?
I was just telling you that slavery is bad even though it was a law back then, which you also said that it was a law back then.
Yes and you disagree with the law except when it suits you
How exactly does it suit me?
Because a fetus has zero rights to life , it’s granted life or not by the mother who’s body it is using by permission
So despite the fact that it is a life, you still think that murdering it is ok? Explain to me why the fetus doesn't have a right to life?
It’s not your failure to acknowledge that is a continuing problem for you
Then who's is it then? What I tried to say is for you to answer differently since the only thing you say is, "because it's the law."
Read above , or yet again ...... Any supposed “rights “ a fetus has should always be secondary to a woman’s rights when it comes to abortion , why do you grant the fetus a right over a woman’s right to choice ?
Why should it be secondary to the woman's? Oh let me guess, age difference... The fetus should have a right over the woman's because life should be a right for anyone. Wishing the death of a human is wrong. Why do you think it's right to dictate the life of someone?
Never once said that read above
Well it's pretty much what you're implying since you think that fetuses don't have a right to life because they're still unborn, young, and developing.
How do you fail to answer the one question time and time again and not attempt one answer to what I keep asking you regards the rights of a woman in the matter ?
How do you fail to realize that a fetus is a human, that it has rights to life, and that murdering it is wrong. I've never seen you ask me this question, but I've already answered all your other questions.
The thing is that life is so important, we have laws that prohibit murder, even though people still do it. But when the murderer gets caught, justice gets served. Anything from murdering a baby, to an elderly, is considered immoral and wrong. Even animal abuse is considered wrong. Everyone starts out in life as a sperm cell, which then grows, becomes a fetus, then all the way till its born. But apparently we have laws that say it's ok to kill a fetus. I'm not sure why this is a thing, since murdering humans is illegal and wrong. Fetuses are humans, they're the same species as us. If they weren't, what else would they be? It's important to realize that abortion is wrong and always has been. You can say that a fetus doesn't have rights, but when you really look at it, can you really say, "Yea it's fine, it's just a human fetus, it doesn't have any purpose, yea it's ok to kill it because it doesn't mean anything since the parents don't want it." Fetuses are humans like the rest of us, just younger. Don't you think that all human life is important?
I was just telling you that slavery is bad even though it was a law back then, which you also said that it was a law back then.
But most thought it just fine back then so it wasn’t bad to them was it ?
Yes and you disagree with the law except when it suits you
How exactly does it suit me?
Because you keep sayin abortion is murder the law disagrees with you if it didn’t it would suit you
So despite the fact that it is a life,
A potential life
you still think that murdering it is ok?
It’s still not murder
Explain to me why the fetus doesn't have a right to life?
Whatever right you think it has why would it’s supposed right supercede that of a woman ?
I’ve asked this question of you and others several hundred times now and not one of yous will answer , why’s that ?
Then who's is it then? What I tried to say is for you to answer differently since the only thing you say is, "because it's the law."
There you go again avoiding my question I’m asking you why the fetus should have a right to life but the woman has zero rights in her choice , bet you won’t answer again?
Why should it be secondary to the woman's?
Oh let me guess, age difference...
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The fetus should have a right over the woman's because life should be a right for anyone
So the “rights “ of a fetus are more important than a woman’s rights ?
. Wishing the death of a human is wrong.
Denying women rights over their ow;body is wrong
Why do you think it's right to dictate the life of someone?
But that’s exactly what you’re doing as in telling a woman what to do , I’ve never once said it was my decision what a woman should do , I do not care if she aborts or not , but you still keep bleating on as you haven’t understood a thing I’ve said as you’re too emotional
Well it's pretty much what you're implying since you think that fetuses don't have a right to life because they're still unborn, young, and developing.
I said which yet again you keep ignoring it’s not my choice to make
How do you fail to realize that a fetus is a human, that it has rights to life, and that murdering it is wrong.
Call it what you want for the 50 th time I say “ it’s still not my choice to make it’s up to each individual woman to make that choice “ bet you will still fail to comprehend what that means
I've never seen you ask me this question, but I've already answered all your other questions.
I know like above you keep ignoring it
The thing is that life is so important,
No it’s not , what you mean is only human life is important
we have laws that prohibit murder, even though people still do it.
I know
But when the murderer gets caught, justice gets served. Anything from murdering a baby, to an elderly, is considered immoral and wrong
I know
. Even animal abuse is considered wrong.
No it’s not , you say that yet devour burgers and steaks and products from animals that are slaughtered for your pleasure
Everyone starts out in life as a sperm cell, which then grows, becomes a fetus, then all the way till its born
Yes and you and others use contraception to prevent a potential life coming to be just like abortion
. But apparently we have laws that say it's ok to kill a fetus.
“Apparently “ ?
I'm not sure why this is a thing, since murdering humans is illegal and wrong.
Not when they get the death sentence in the U S or are sent as soldiers by the U S government to slaughter others
Fetuses are humans, they're the same species as us. If they weren't, what else would they be?
So what ?
It's important to realize that abortion is wrong and always has been.
The law and I disagree with you
You can say that a fetus doesn't have rights,
Yes , zero rights
but when you really look at it, can you really say, "Yea it's fine, it's just a human fetus,
I don’t say that , I keep telling you I couldn’t give a fuck either way , but you keep ignoring
it doesn't have any purpose, yea it's ok to kill it because it doesn't mean anything since the parents don't want it.
Yawn
" Fetuses are humans like the rest of us, just younger. Don't you think that all human life is important?
Still yet, you haven't answered my question as to why the rest of us were able to become babies and be born, if we don't have the right to life.
The US Supreme Court has declared abortion to be a "fundamental right" guaranteed by the US Constitution
I answered this 9 times you dumb troll it's because your mother wanted you for some reason , bet she regrets that now
A woman has a right to abort a fetus has zero rights proving yet again your only " argument "is the crybaby argument as in you don't aagee with women's rights so what do you do ? Cry 😭
The US Supreme Court has declared abortion to be a "fundamental right" guaranteed by the US Constitution
Tell me American dummy how come all those brave American women were allowed abort if they haven't a right to do so ?
Beaten again you troll you're still crying because women have rights , but isn't that the way you rednecks are ?
The US Supreme Court has declared abortion to be a "fundamental right" guaranteed by the US Constitution
Oh really? When was this "fundamental right", as you put it, given to women?
Tell me American dummy
I'd make a joke about your nationality, but I'm not sure you would comprehend my wording.
brave American women
Oh, so we're calling murderers brave now? Just like how we're calling mentally ill people heroes?
if they haven't a right to do so ?
Because it's legal. I can't see any "gotchya" here.
The US Supreme Court has declared abortion to be a "fundamental right" guaranteed by the US Constitution
That decision was based on the Fourteenth Amendment. The Fourteenth Amendment states "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws". The Fourteenth Amendment effectively makes it both legal and unconstitutional to receive an abortion.
When was this fundamental right", as you put it, given to women?
Why not do a bit of research you dummy ?
I have explained your law to you and your fellow rednecks and you keep asking for it to be explained yet again proving one cannot educate pork
It’s appaling how ignorant you rednecks are about your own constitution
I'd make a joke about your nationality, but I'm not sure you would comprehend my wording.
But you’re a retard so yes I accept you have difficulty typing a sensible sentence
Oh, so we're calling murderers brave now?
Why where’s the police if murders are taking place ?
Just like how we're calling mentally ill people heroes?
What this means is beyond me and I never said your illness made you a hero
Because it's legal. I can't see any "gotchya" here.
Just proving you’re a crybaby 😢😢😢.....again
That decision was based on the Fourteenth Amendment. The Fourteenth Amendment states "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws". The Fourteenth Amendment effectively makes it both legal and unconstitutional to receive an abortion.
😴😴😴 Abortion is perfectly legal in the U S you crybaby 😢😢😢 Seeing as everyone is wrong except you why not take a case against your government and point out where the judges and legislators are going wrong ?
We know why you won’t don't we ? It’s because you’re full of horse shit 🐎 💩💩
Abortion isn't a fundamental right, at least not in the U.S. You've not explained American law, you've used parts of it to fit your narrative. You don't seem to be understanding my view: Abortion is basically legalized murder, in my view. You may disagree, and if you can form an intelligent argument then I'm willing to debate with you.
I agree with this statement cause of the fact that it is being misunderstood some may not understand where you are going. But, I do and the only thing I have to say if a women is raped then they should have some leeway on whether or not they should have an abortion. I hate hearing the fact that they can kill an innocent baby like that but most women that are raped are either too young, not ready for a child yet, or can't afford to handle a child. So then I give them leeway, but if you have sex (and are not raped) then you have to stand up and handle the consequences.
Abortion is murder, and I can prove it....................................................................................................................................
It does deny a Constitutional right of a woman to preside over her own body. She the woman forfeit that right upon the self-incrimination made to the public. Pregnancy abortion is a self-incrimination of murder made in the public. Human rights Watch has not provided one woman with Maranda for their own protection. Can they explain how officially stopping life is not a confession to murder? Can any woman? All we get is alibi.
Is Female Specific Amputation giving the same admission?
The United States has nothing but Constitutional right to end Pregnancy Abortion by an introduction of united State being placed upon all woman. It is one of my greatest sorrows to carry this effort out having seen firsthand the detriment to the United States Constitution and to woman of this fraud.
I am afraid you have this backward a woman had a constitutional obligation to the general welfare of all woman by her natural ability to produce a citizen of a United State.
It only denies the woman the right to incriminate others in an admission to murder. Gender Specific Amputation is not pregnancy abortion.
1. It's the woman's or parent's right to decide if they want to bring a life to earth or not.The right to make these decisions should lie in the hands of the “mother” to make decisions concerning their own to make decisions concerning their own bodies.
2. It would be beneficial in terms of population control.
3. Regarding the rights of the baby, a fetus cannot think or do anything, so it basically do not have any right.
4. Prohibiting abortions doesn't stop abortions, women would simply seek abortions via illegal means which are unsafe & illegal, so it is better to provide woman with safe & legal ways to do an abortion.
5. In terms of humanity, abortion is way better for a child than being alive with no love, care and value. The child may also feel suicidal which will result in ultimate ending and the child may also face abuse by his/her own parents which might depress him/her.
they should'nt do abortion just because they don't want the baby.
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2. It would be beneficial in terms of population control.
5.child may also feel suicidal and also face abuse by his/her own parents
Abortion is not the solution for these issues
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3. Regarding the rights of the baby, a fetus cannot think or do anything, so it basically do not have any right.
""This country has just ended discrimination based on race. Are we now going to start discrimination on the basis of age? Saying:"I'm older than you, I'm bigger than you, I have a voice - therefore I can kill you." -Jawkins20
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4. provide woman with safe & legal ways to do an abortion.
Yeah, safe but not neccesary.
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5.alive with no love, care and value.
No one experience this.
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Credits to the incredible man named Jawkins20 check out his amusing answer on this link
The problem is the question does not address the issue of crime. The debate claims that Pregnancy abortion is murder when in fact pregnancy abortion is only the confession, admission, or acknowledgement that officially ending life is murder. This is why the alibi of when life begins is used as response to the acknowledgment.
So when you say or ask should admission to murder be legal, the response is yes it should be legal. Issue this term Abortion when used with pregnancy is not America nor was it part of the United States of America it came from outside the nation.
How Pregnancy abortion is addressed as the confession, admission, or Acknowledgment is by fact what is at the core of debate. First due to the fact it is a transferable self-incrimination to a felony crime being admitted, this is saying the criminal is convicting themselves without trial and is providing an alibi to evade punishment by basic principle.
So the second major issue is the self-incrimination is saying all woman must admit to the same crime. Yet clearly we know not all woman are in fact guilty of the crime. It is this hidden action of crime which creates the greatest damage as it is promoting a hidden fraud inside contradiction in medical treatment.
No it is not already legal a proclamation has been placed in law and that law can be tested every day it remains in writing. The crime to be charged does not have to be limited to only the criminal made with the confession used.
1. How does instantly admitting to a felony help any woman? Does she believe she is wrong?
2. You are wrong there is no reason other than if the woman believe she is committing the crime that the confession describes should she openly and publicly admit to that crime. Ever!
3. If there is even a question of her belief held in her mind that she is not guilty, her statement to a public should address that fact. Not openly contradict it.
4. truth of law does not insure it was used legally.
Yes abortion should 100� legal. A woman should have a right to decide what happens to her own body and I believe that no one else should get a say in that. I find it disgusting that it's 2018 and yet so many countries still deny women the right to an abortion, there are so many situations in which sometimes abortion is the best option and women should never be shamed for what they choose to do with their body.
A woman should have a right to decide what happens to her own body and I believe that no one else should get a say in that.
The fetus isn't part of the woman like a limb. The only thing that keeps them attached is the umbilical cord, but that's because the fetus needs it to live, and develop.
I find it disgusting that it's 2018 and yet so many countries still deny women the right to an abortion,
I find it disgusting that it's 2018 and people think that it's ok to kill a fetus, and deny them the right to life.
there are so many situations in which sometimes abortion is the best option
What are those situations that are "so important" that makes murdering the fetus "the best option?"
and women should never be shamed for what they choose to do with their body.
Why doesn't the fetus have a say in the matter? The fetus has its own body, so it's not "her" body.
1. It's the woman's or parent's right to decide if they want to bring a life to earth or not.The right to make these decisions should lie in the hands of the “mother” to make decisions concerning their own to make decisions concerning their own bodies.
2. It would be beneficial in terms of population control.
3. Regarding the rights of the baby, a fetus cannot think or do anything, so it basically do not have any right.
4. Prohibiting abortions doesn't stop abortions, women would simply seek abortions via illegal means which are unsafe & illegal, so it is better to provide woman with safe & legal ways to do an abortion.
5. In terms of humanity, abortion is way better for a child than being alive with no love, care and value. The child may also feel suicidal which will result in ultimate ending and the child may also face abuse by his/her own parents which might depress him/her.
1. It's the woman's or parent's right to decide if they want to bring a life to earth or not.The right to make these decisions should lie in the hands of the “mother” to make decisions concerning their own to make decisions concerning their own bodies.
So what, are they being dictators towards the fetus? The fetus is a human with rights to life. Since it's human, it's also murder.
2. It would be beneficial in terms of population control.
Why can't we figure out a way to expand?
3. Regarding the rights of the baby, a fetus cannot think or do anything, so it basically do not have any right.
But that's how all humans start out in life. Babies are young and helpless, that's why they need the care of the parents to teach them to think, and learn. Ive done my research, and found that babies actually do think, just not in the same way kids or adults do. Just because it can't survive on its own doesn't mean that it doesn't have any rights.
4. Prohibiting abortions doesn't stop abortions, women would simply seek abortions via illegal means which are unsafe & illegal, so it is better to provide woman with safe & legal ways to do an abortion.
There are already ways to get safe and legal abortions. The law allows them to abort fetuses legally. If abortion was illegal, then the woman can't go to a doctor and aks for an abortion, because it would already be illegal, and plus the doctor would probably say something about it. But if it was illegal, then women would be charged for it.
5. In terms of humanity, abortion is way better for a child than being alive with no love, care and value.
But they could put the baby up for adoption. Adoption doesn't always happen, but it's better than being dead. Why would you think that death is better than not being loved? There's people who have lost families, their homes, friends, jobs, and sometimes limbs, but do they kill themselves? If they're too depressed, then maybe, but part of the time they still become successful. I would say it's better to be alive than to be dead.
Yes, but only until around 3-4 months (12-16wks), when the foetus is exhibiting voluntary movement, a heart beat, brain signals, reactions to stimuli and more (Source 1). To claim that a 3 month old baby is merely a bundle of cells is only correct insofar as fully developed humans can also be described as bundles of cells.
foetus is exhibiting voluntary movement, a heart beat, brain signals, reactions to stimuli and more
Even people with comatose can be considered living even if they can't move because of their beating heart, for heart is the core of a being.
but only until around 3-4 months (12-16wks),
Let's lower the days since heart starts to beat at 21 days after conception and abortionist shouldn't be the cause of why the fetus' heart will not beat.
Can't dispute that, not all embryo has heartbeat in that week.
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; it's still a mere blastocyst
Can't argue with that, inner blastocyst cells still exist on embryo on 3 weeks.
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This sounds a lot like an argument for abortion to be illegal from day one, which I disagree with.
Hey WinstonC Why do you disagree with it?
My opinion is It should be legal only when there's a pregnancy complication but should not be a choice for parents because we value human zygote for we came from it.
My opinion is It should be legal only when there's a pregnancy complication but should not be a choice for parents because we value human zygote for we came from it."
For one, because those having abortions are disproportionately likely to be poor and/or single mothers who cannot provide a good environment for the child to grow up in. Both single motherhood and poverty are associated with poor outcomes for the child, including increased criminality later in life (Source 1). As such, painlessly killing the embryo early appears to me the lesser of two evils.
YES! Abortions are women's choices. Pro choice is giving the woman to decide to keep the child or abort it. Also, lets say a child got raped. A 11 yr old, you're telling me they have to go through the pain at 11 to give birth? Cruel.
No, abortion shouldn't be legal. It's pretty much a way of brutality murdering babies, which are innocent lives. They're humans, like us, and we should give them the chance to live in the outside world, and experience things for themselves. Liberals try to ban guns, but they allow abortion to made legal, which is stupid. Abortion kills more innocent lives than murders by guns, or other firearms.
Conservatives, republicans, and pretty much all right wingers agree with me.
Okay, so it might not be called a baby, but it's a fetus, and your still murdering it.
Yes they are, they have done literally nothing wrong.
"They're potential lives"
How are they potential lives when they are clearly living?
They're not human because they look different? So is a baby not a human because it's different from a full grown person? They are human, just because they look different doesn't mean they aren't human. The only difference is that one is at a different stage than the other.
Yes there are those amount of deaths, but diseases and accidents and abortions kill WAY more people than guns do, and there are statistics for that.
We have the unalienable right to own guns, but when it comes to abortions, the fetus apparently doesn't have any rights, and apparently not even to be born and live a life, why's that? We all have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, so why shouldn't the fetus?
"Oh stop , bring out the violins and let’s have a weep in"
That's not an argument either.
Well first of all I never said they were going to be innocent lives, but a majority might be, but they are still innocent lives since they haven't done anything, and are still fetuses, mind you.
No, it's not okay for gun deaths to happen, and no one said that, but people like you think that it's okay to murder an unborn fetus, what's up with that?
Merely your opinion and lawmakers and legislators disagree with you
Yeah, except for lawmakers and legislators in 41 states who've created limits on abortion, as well as Mississippi's governor and the Ohio GOP introducing full-on abortion bans.
They're not , they're potential lives
But they're alive. If they aren't, why do they need nutrients?
They're not maybe you should try and look at images of a fetus and a fully formed human and attempt to spot the difference
What about 12-week and 18-week old fetuses? They look pretty similar to babies. Maybe not fully formed adults, but they look like smaller versions of newborns.
Ridiculous isn't it ?
Yes, we finally agree on something.
33, 000 gun deaths a year and 18, 000 injuries
For one, shut up Linguini. You aren't American. For two, that number accounts for gang crime (who can obtain guns illegally), suicides (which can occur through various other means), and self-defense.
why’s that ?
Because the right to own a gun is given to the people by the U.S. Constitution, abortion isn't, Mr. American Law.
That's not an argument
And neither is that.
How do you know their potential lives are going to be innocent ?
No one said they would be innocent of crimes. Fetuses have done nothing to justify their deaths.
So it’s cool for gun deaths to happen but not to abort a fetus
Who said the number of gun deaths wouldn't just move to another platform, like knives or baseball bats? And, no one said the number of gun deaths is acceptable.
Yeah, except for lawmakers and legislators in 41 states who’ e created limits on abortion, as well as Mississippi's governor and the Ohio GOP introducing full-on abortion bans.
Yeah , except for it’s legal in the U S so stop whining , also there are other countries outside the U S are you aware of this ?
But they’re alive
Really ? When does life begin
if they aren't, why do they need nutrients?
They are supplied with nutrients that have no legal right to
What about 12-week and 18-week old fetuses? They look pretty similar to babies. Maybe not fully formed adults, but they look like smaller versions of newborns.
So what ?
Yes we finally agree in something
Yes and sarcasm is way over your head
For one, shut up Linguini.
So you’re calling me a pasta dish oookay
You aren't American
What do you base that assertion on ? And as an ultra conservative American knuckle dragger you think only American opinions count on such matters
. For two, that number accounts for gang crime (who can obtain guns illegally), suicides (which can occur through various other means), and self-defense.
Yawn , I’ve heard it all before it’s bullshit
Because the right to own a gun is given to the people by the U.S. Constitution,
Yes but you don’t understand the wording of your constitution
abortion isn't, Mr. American Law.
Abortion is legal in the U S crybaby
And neither is that.
It is
No one said they would be innocent of crimes. Fetuses have done nothing to justify their deaths.
They’ve done nothing to justify their lives
Who said the number of gun deaths wouldn't just move to another platform, like knives or baseball bats?
You mean like school killings with baseball bats ? 😂
Or drive by killings with bat wielding thugs ? 😂
And no one said the number=of gun deaths are acceptable
Yeah , except for it's legal in the U S so stop whining
I'm not the one whining about how abortion should be legal.
Really ? When does life begin
When they're conceived. Life in a woman's womb can be defined the same as life on another planet; a single-celled organism.
They are supplied with nutrients
Which they need to live.
that have no legal right to
Why?
So what ?
So you said to look up a picture of a fetus and an adult. I'm saying try to find differences between a baby and a fetus other than size.
Yes and sarcasm is way over your head
Oh, really?
What do you base that assertion on ?
On the fact that you in your About Me, you stated that your country is Italy.
And as an ultra conservative American knuckle dragger you think only American opinions count on such matters
My country, my opinion.
Yawn , I've heard it all before it's bullshit
That's not an argument.
Yes but you don't understand the wording of your constitution
Yes, I do. I know full well what the 2nd Amendment states.
Abortion is legal in the U S crybaby
Again, I'm not crying. It's leftists as well as people like you who are whining about how terrible it will be when abortion is made illegal. Meanwhile, conservatives and Republicans are waiting.
It is
Saying "That's not an argument" doesn't make it an argument.
They've done nothing to justify their lives
And neither have you, Luigi. Babies haven't done much of worth either, so, does that make infanticide fine?
You mean like school killing with baseball bats ? 😂
"School killings"?
Knives and baseball bats are way more accessible than guns. So, I'll ask and then answer a question: why don't criminals just use knives and bats instead of guns? Simply put, it's because they want to cause the most damage. If guns were made unconstitutionally illegal, I wouldn't put it past someone to use knives, bats, cars, bombs, etc. to cause more damage.
So what are you justifying it ? 🙀🙀🙀
What's up with all the emotes?
No, I'm not justifying it, Spaghetti. I said that no one has claimed that the gun crime rate is acceptable.
I'm not the one whining about how abortion should be legal.
I know you’re whining it should be ..... illegal 👌☺️
When they're conceived. Life in a woman's womb can be defined the same as life on another planet; a single-celled organism.
So what , I don’t give a fuck either way
Which they need to live.
Yes I know , so what ?
Why
Because abortion is legal
So you said to look up a picture of a fetus and an adult. I'm saying try to find differences between a baby and a fetus other than size.
So what ? Abortion is legal
Oh, really?
Yes really
On the fact that you in your About Me, you stated that your country is Italy.
So I couldn’t have dual citizenship, interesting
My country, my opinion.
Mine too
That's not an argument.
Neither is your conservative bullshit
Yes, I do. I know full well what the 2nd Amendment states.
Yes but not what it means
Again, I'm not crying
You are
. It's leftists as well as people like you who are whining about how terrible it will be when abortion is made illegal.
Hilarious , as you’re the one whining incessantly saying it should be illegal
I couldn’t give a fuck about knuckle dragging Republicans
Saying "That's not an argument" doesn't make it an argument
???????
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And neither have you, Luigi.
Really ? I’m pretty well to do as I’ve done something you never have as in work you lazy sod
Babies haven't done much of worth either, so, does that make infanticide fine?
You want to kill babies go ahead I’m not judging
"School killings"?
Yeah , yous lead the world in them and gun crime well done buddy
Knives and baseball bats are way more accessible than guns. So, I'll ask and then answer a question: why don't criminals just use knives and bats instead of guns? Simply put, it's because they want to cause the most damage. If guns were made unconstitutionally illegal, I wouldn't put it past someone to use knives, bats, cars, bombs, etc. to cause more damage.
Baseball bats used drive by baseball attacks or maybe another Columbine with ...... bats 👌😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What's up with all the emotes?
Because you’re pure comedy
No, I'm not justifying it, Spaghetti.
You are Mr Workshy
I said that no one has claimed that the gun rate is acceptable
Your point is ridiculous and at this point has been debunked more times than the Russian collusion claims. Then again you wouldn't know anything about that, would you Ravioli?
I didn't need to be educated in American law, I've studied it myself. I can read my Constitution just fine, suffice it to say I didn't need you of all people to try and explain anything. As for being "workshy", all I've got to say is you don't waste any time responding either, apart from spacing before and after question marks.
You call yourself superior? Lmfao you're not even close. You're more close to stupid than anything else. And you've educated no one in anything. All you do is spout nonsense about how a fetus apparently has no right to life and how you act like a know it all when if fact you just create random sentences to get around good arguments which you can't even fight against.
Terrible grammar and nonsensical arguments do not combat arguments. You calling something gibberish, stupid, etc. doesn't combat the argument. Try making actual arguments.
Again, Ravioli, you're repeating the same things over and over again. Which part of American law would you like me to learn about? I guarantee you know less than me considering you're not American. As for my Constitution, what do I need to know about from there? You're talking in very broad terms here.
Again, @workshy you're repeating the same things over and over again. The part of American law would I would like you to learn about is basically the lot from start to finish . I guarantee you know less than me considering you're an American hick . As for your Constitution, you need to study it with an adult at your special needs centre .
Your not superior to anyone. When it comes to debates, you certainly aren't the best at it. Now you're calling me a jackass? That's new. No, I don't remember because I'm not a jackass. How about you read the definition for it?
Actually, you just fail at attempting to educate people, because you never give any good arguments. I don't have genetic stupidity, I'm not retarded, and I have smart parents.
Just because it's legal, it doesn't mean the fetus doesn't have any rights to life. Jackass again? Dude you need to chill out a bit.
No your not right. Think that fetuses have no rights, aren't human, and that murdering them is fine, is completely wrong and immoral. And you've never made me wrong, if you did I would've accepted my defeat long ago.
Yea, I know, abortion is legal. But guess what, abortion is evil 🤗
(Hey that rhymes)
Yea I make good arguments. Glad to know that you think I'm funny too.
Oh yea? Show me those arguments that you won, buddy
1. You really have no veracity in your statements. All you say is that the fetus has no rights, which it does, actually, and you say that abortion is legal. And just because it's legal to abort a fetus, it doesn't mean that it's right.
2. That statement doesn't even make any sense... My ass didn't get canned, I'm still arguing and debating you.
3. What were the things I said that made me a jackass? I've just stated the facts. Also, you should stop name calling, this is a debate website, not a roast session.
4. I'm just referring to he fact that you just start name calling.
5. Well that's your opinion, which doesn't even matter because I'm not a jackass. I'm not stupid. Now stop spewing out words that aren't true.
6. Jackass - A stupid person. I'm afraid your wrong again, I'm no where near stupid, or I wouldn't even be on his website, or have passing grades. Also, stop with the insults, it's getting old.
7. I know it's true. I'm not a liar. But if you think it's not true, then give me an actually good, well thought argument, with solid evidence. Because so far, you haven't even done that.
8. Are you sure you know what genetic stupidity is? Apparently not since you just blurt out words anyway. If you're stupid, then you're pretty much retarded, and I'm not retarded. Now stop name calling.
9. Wow, that was a really bad guess. I wasn't switched at birth, pretty much no one does that, except when it comes to adoption. You don't know anything about my past, and family, so shut your mouth.
10. I don't care that the law agrees with you, it's still bad, and it's still considered murder. The fetus is a human, and humans have rights, which means the fetus has a right to life. This is all based on science mind you. Go look it up if you want.
11. I admitted it? When did I say that I admitted it? All I did is ask a question. Admitting something is when you give a statement and tell the truth that you are, or said something, that doesn't involve asking questions.
12. Calling me a clown, jackass, or saying that I have genetic stupidity, isn't a good argument either.
13. They do have rights. And it's still murder, since you're taking the life of a living being, a human, in this case. And making me wrong? Stop trying to say that you're winning the argument, because clearly you're not.
14. Nonsense? Really? Can you explain to me why satating that abortion is immoral and wrong?
15. Can you actually stop with the jackass thing? It's actually getting old. But apart from that, I do give good arguments. I back them up with logic, and clear evidence and statistics. If you don't see that, I guess you're blind.
16. Who cares if you're laughing at me or with me? If I do something and you laugh, I'm doing something funny. But in all seriousness, we're talking about abortion, so this is not the time for jokes.
17. All I see is arguments, but no clear wins. I guess you're seeing something else, because those aren't wins at all.
When you actually lay a proper argument out I shall correct any misconceptions you have and talk you through the flaws in your thinking , the only argument you and your bleeding heart buddies are making and constantly whining about is “ well it’s wrong because we say so “
Ravioli, you're getting old. You haven't laid out a single argument and even if you had, it would be hidden under all the name calling and false accusations.
No, it's not wrong because we say so. It's wrong because it's immoral and technically illegal, even though abortion clinics aren't charged with 1st Degree murder. Your snowflake friends and you are the ones complaining that abortion should be legal, even though it is.
I'm not a redneck, and it's not a greeting. It's a joke, and you can just ignore it.
You should stop doing it then ... maybe?
I do call you names, but at least I'm presenting a point. You haven't done that in the slightest since we started this "conversation".
Told you , all because you say so
Wrong, Spaghetti. Stop trying to write arguments while you eat. If you had read my argument, you'd understand what I had said.
stop crying
I'm not crying, and even if I were my tears wouldn't type letters. I can't say the same for you, though.
it's wrong because you say so
And you say you schooled me in American law. Abortion is murder. Murder is illegal. Abortion is murder.
Because it's legal you cry baby
Who's crying?
Like I said, it is legal but all I can only chalk that up to a loophole, for lack of a better term.
My friends are made of ......snow
Snowflakes are fragile, just like your arguments.
Had you a fall on your head or something
Wow, Luigi. I'm surprised you can use Google Translate. And no, I didn't "have a fall on my head". You seem to be confused. You, like your liberal friends, complain about Republicans trying to make abortion illegal even though the bill would never pass.
Abortion is murder. Murder is illegal. Abortion is legal?
The problem is the last sentence, that abortion is legal but murder isn't.
Roe v. Wade is ridiculous as an argument because of the context behind it, namely substantive due process of law; the idea that the due process clause of the 14th decides what rights can be revoked at all.
Roe v. Wade didn't give anyone the right to have an abortion, it made abortion bans unconstitutional. That doesn't give you the right to have an abortion, and abortion is a privilege if anything.
That doesn't give you the right to have an abortion
It sure does buddy and women do it legally in the U S
Also you do realize American law does not apply in Europe , have you heard of Europe?
Ouch
Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.
holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.
Double ouch see that buddy ...a right 👋👋👋🙀👏👏👏👏
Bravo , Bravo , Encore , you may politely applause my brilliance again , anything else you need to know on American law “old pal “ ?
That doesn't give you the right to have an abortion
It sure does buddy and women do it legally in the U S
Also you do realize American law does not apply in Europe , have you heard of Europe?
Ouch
Later, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the Court rejected Roe's trimester framework while affirming its central holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.
holding that a woman has a right to abortion until fetal viability.
Double ouch see that buddy ...a right 👋👋👋🙀👏👏👏👏
Bravo , Bravo , Encore , you may politely applause my brilliance again , anything else you need to know on American law
I did have proper arguments, I'm still not sure why you can't see that yet. And not once did I say that abortion is wrong because "we say so." Abortion includes taking the life of a human fetus. That right there is murder, I don't have to say anything else. But, since it's a human fetus, it has its right to life, and I don't see why it shouldn't. It is not part of the woman, since the fetus is its own body, with its own genetic makeup, and design, which makes it a separate entity. It's connected to the mother because of the umbilical cord, but that's because the fetus needs it to live. Apart from that, the fetus doesn't belong to anyone, it isn't property, just a human being, with its rights to live.
And not once did I say that abortion is wrong because "we say so."
I’m afraid you did , bet you will do it again
Abortion includes taking the life of a human fetus.
Incorrect , abortion is termination of an embryo or fetus from the uterus before it is sufficiently developed to survive independently
That right there is murder,
No it’s not , why are women not charged with murder then betvyou cannot answer , also I told you your whole argument is the pathetic “ because I said so “ argument
I don't have to say anything else.
I agree as it’s exactly as predicted
But, since it's a human fetus, it has its right to life,
It hasn’t the law agrees with me , making me right ...again
and I don't see why it shouldn't.
I know because you think the law should accept your “ special pleading “
it is not part of the woman, since the fetus is its own body, with its own genetic makeup, and design, which makes it a separate entity.
Why’s it in the woman then ?
It's connected to the mother because of the umbilical cord, but that's because the fetus needs it to live
Are you serious !! Wow , what an insight
. Apart from that, the fetus doesn't belong to anyone, it isn't property, just a human being, with its rights to live.
Still hasn’t got those rights buddy...... anything else?
How about you look in the previous arguments I've made, then you'll see them.
I’m afraid you did , bet you will do it again
I did? When? Where?
Incorrect , abortion is termination of an embryo or fetus from the uterus before it is sufficiently developed to survive independently
How am I incorrect? You practically said the same thing as I did, except I didn't say that last part. If you look up the definition for termination, it says "the action of bringing something or coming to an end." So in this case, you're brining the life of the fetus to an end.
No it’s not , why are women not charged with murder then betvyou cannot answer , also I told you your whole argument is the pathetic “ because I said so “ argument
Yes it is. You're killing a fetus. The fetus isn't something lifeless, as it is clearly living. The reason women aren't charged for murder is because of the law. I never said because I said so, not once.
I agree as it’s exactly as predicted
Oh so you agree with my statements then?
It hasn’t the law agrees with me , making me right ...again
It does, and the law doesn't agree with you, you agree with the law (for some reason) which tells me that you agree with murder.
Why’s it in the woman then ?
Because that's where babies come from.
Are you serious !! Wow , what an insight
Yes, I'm serious.
Still hasn’t got those rights buddy...... anything else?
The law says it doesn't have rights, but really the fetus does have rights to life, since it's human. "Still hasn't," so does that mean that it will happen, since it still hasn't yet?
It’s not , why are you calling a fetus a “ baby “ ?
The fetus has its own genetic code, brain, eyes, nerves, hand and foot brints, sometimes is a boy, it is a person with the right to live. It is rude to say someone's mother coulda shoulda woulda had the right to kill them. Even you have the right to live. Birth is just a change in location.
You can't draw a line on where an embryo becomes human. Thus, abortion is definitive murder of a potential life and should therefore be prevented by a responsible government.
I agree on your previous point on the other debate as in your phrasing “ potential life “ , I disagree here as in your statement claiming abortion is “ murder “
You agree when you say you can’t draw a line when an embryo becomes human yet the very definition of murder is of one human being by another
Murder
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
I want you to follow me a bit on this: if we were to find a single cell on mars or any other planet, we would consider it life. Why should it be that when their is developing baby or fetus as many like to say it, we consider less than life. It is as if because it is not born yet, it is not considered living yet. This could not be further from the truth. If we are going to consider a single cell organism life, then we must consider an organism that is consisting of millions of cells and containing intelligence life as well.
Also, if a person robs and bank and gets caught, we send them to jail. If a person is caught speeding, we give them a ticket. If someone causes an accident, their insurance premiums go up. We as a whole make mistake daily. We have to face those mistakes and suffer the consequences. If you get pregnant my mistake, that is your child. Your consequence is raising it. We cannot always run away from our problems. We must learn to face them. Abortion is just a way to run away from our problems.
I just think it absolutely asinine that abortion would be legal when in fact it is considered double homicide to murder a pregnant women. At 20 weeks a baby (fetus.. whatever you use to justify this) has tiny feet. at twelve weeks they have rib cages and tiny hands, so know that it isn't a tiny ball of mass. It is a developing human being and should be given its basic rights.
I can go both sides on this because If a female is raped and she finds out he is pregnant then, I think there can be some leeway between abortion or not. Don't get me wrong it is murder and I don't like seeing innocent people die everyday but if you are raped and usually most women you are raped are not ready for a child, I do think they have the right to have an abortion. But if you have sex (not rape) and you get pregnant I do think then you should not be allowed to have an abortion. Due to the fact that you can prevent all the risk of getting pregnant from happening.
- Condoms
- Pull out methid
- Not having sex at all
- or even birth control
Yes they all don't always work but only one does work every time and that is just not having sex at all.
I'm not saying that an innocent child should die, yes they have the right to live. So I change my opinion I think they should instead send them to a foster home, or adoption center. Sorry.
A rape, as tragic and evil as it may be, doesn't justify a death (except perhaps that of the rapist). Certainly the unborn child shouldn't be punished for the rapist's crime.
You wouldn't say that a rape victim is allowed to go and kill an innocent adult simply as a result of their being raped.
Why does someone get the right to kill someone just because they were raped? Yes, they may not be ready for a child but adoption exists. To me, it sounds like a bully situation; "The bully experienced pain once, so they made another experience pain." Only, with bullies, it's unacceptable. Why is it fine for raped women to do the same?
My bad on that part I did not think of adoption or even foster homes. That's my fault, but thanks for justifying that and I will make sure to correct myself.
A woman has an inalienable Constitutional right to preserve to gestation period of a human embryo alive in her body. That is why she can be given liberty in the burden of her responsibilities set by nature. She spends her entire fertile life with the loss of life in the hopes of a suitable mate.
What was not understood clearly is if United States Constitution separation can or cannot provide equal protection once a process of admission is started publicly
where's the amendment in the Bill of Rights giving women the ability to kill her own child?
Hello the:
It's the 4th Amendment... I'm not gonna argue Constitutional law with you here, but the Supreme Court found that a woman's RIGHT to abort her unborn child is IN the 4th Amendment..
excon
PS> You're probably one of those who cant find the right for gay marriage in the Constitution either...
The 4th Amendment? The 4th Amendment prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures of a property or person.
If you mean the Roe v. Wade case, you're incorrect there as well. The case used the 14th Amendment to claim that abortion laws/bans are unconstitutional, correct? Now, how could that be? The right to abortion isn't an inherent human right, like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Where is the right to gay marriage found in the Constitution?
Where is the right to gay marriage found in the Constitution?
Hello again, the:
No. I meant the 4th Amendment. It's often argued as protecting our right to privacy, and that's what I did.. You don't agree.. Got it..
They right for gays to marry is found in the 14th. You don't agree with that either. You don't understand what EQUAL protection under the law means.. Got it.
But, I'm not here to argue Constitutional law with you.. I'm here to tell you what the law IS pursuant to the great Supreme Court of the United States of America.. If you wanna argue, go argue with them.
No. I meant the 4th Amendment. It's often argued as protecting our right to privacy.
Okay. Banning abortion doesn't infringe on your personal privacy, just like how making the sale of illegal drugs illegal doesn't infringe on your personal freedom.
They right for gays to marry is found in the 14th.
The privilege, you mean. Marriage isn't a right. But, I do agree that the privilege for anyone to marry anyone is given to us by the 14th Amendment.
You don't understand what EQUAL protection under the law means
I understand completely what equal protection under the law means. Equal protection isn't giving protection to one side like you seem to be arguing.
the law is pursuant to the great Supreme Court of the United States of America..
I would argue the law is pursuant to the Constitution.
Just to point out some facts artificial insemination is an act of not having sexual intercourse at all. This process may itself create a need for Gender Specific Amputation or female specific Amputation.
I can go both sides on this because If a female is raped and she finds out he is pregnant then, I think there can be some leeway between abortion or not. Don't get me wrong it is murder and I don't like seeing innocent people die everyday but if you are raped and usually most women you are raped are not ready for a child, I do think they have the right to have an abortion. But if you have sex (not rape) and you get pregnant I do think then you should not be allowed to have an abortion. Due to the fact that you can prevent all the risk of getting pregnant from happening.
- Condoms
- Pull out methid
- Not having sex at all
- or even birth control
Yes they all don't always work but only one does work every time and that is just not having sex at all.
I'm not saying that an innocent child should die, yes they have the right to live. So I change my opinion I think they should instead send them to a foster home, or adoption center. Sorry.