Should any country intervene in Russia's war on homosexuality?
Putin's been on the rampage being anti gay, do you think any country should step up and do somethigng about this?
Quotes in favor say "Injustice anywhere is threat to justice everywhere"
Quotes against it say "We need to get our own shit in order before judging someone else's."
What do you feel and why?
The picture is mildly relavant it's just to add some spice to the debate, don't worry about it.
Someone should
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Stay out of it
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I'VE READ THE ARTICLE, AND IT'S ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT I have never seen such a collection of lies in one single article, except maybe in our communist era newspapers. QUOTE: " A few days earlier, just six months before Russia hosts the 2014 Winter Games, Mr. Putin signed a law allowing police officers to arrest tourists and foreign nationals they suspect of being homosexual, lesbian or “pro-gay” and detain them for up to 14 days." There is no law in Russia that allows police officers to arrest anybody for being gay. The law signed by Putin prohibits gay propaganda among minors. I'm sure you can tell the difference between that, and the statement made in the article. Also, this law does not target gays specifically, but anyone who participates in the above mentioned activity. Almost every other statement in that article is a lie. I will not go over them here, but instead create a special debate on this topic. This is rather serious, I never thought that your media could get level with Stalin era communist propaganda. Side: Stay out of it
Gays are at risk for hate crimes more or less everywhere. Russia does not criminalize homosexuality in any way. It was removed from the list of mental diseases in the 90 - s. The law protects every citizen from violence (except criminals, but that's off-topic here). If there are hate crimes against gays, it is a matter of law implementation efficiency, not human rights. Side: Stay out of it
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Taking into account the cultural context and general attitude towards traditions and national pride, it would not make sense to intervene in Russia's war on homosexuality. The thing is that the bill passed by Putin enjoys tremendous public support and is probably one of the few instances, where the Kremlin reflects public opinion and interests. This basically means that any sort of intervention and forcing Russia to recognize homosexual marriages will most certainly be undemocratic. It's a waste of time to try to intervene - gays and LGBT's have virtually no local support in Russia. Props to Russia for being one of the few countries that has the backbone to stand up against cultural and moral relativism. Side: Stay out of it
There is no war on homosexuality in Russia. To the point: all the "oppression" fuzz was started because of an amendment to the Protection of Children from Negative and Harmful Information Act, which was signed into law on January 3, 2011. Here are the details on the initial law: http://www.loc.gov/lawweb/servlet/llocnews?disp3l205402457_text The amendment to this act, signed on June 29 2013, adds propaganda of non - traditional sexual relationships, to the definition of spreading harmful information among minors. Also, the law signed June 29 2013, enforces an amendment to the administrative code. That amendment introduces administrative punishment for, literally: "Propaganda of non - traditional sexual relationships among minors, which can manifest itself in spreading information aimed at forming non - traditional sexual attitudes, attractiveness of non - traditional sexual relationships, distorted image of equality of traditional and non-traditional sexual relationships, or imposing information with regard to non - traditional sexual relations, which can attract interest to such relations". This is a paragraph in the administrative, not the criminal code. The punishment for Russian individuals is a rather small fine: no more than around 150 euros. For government officials, the fine is under around 2000 euros. For judicial persons, the fine limit is around 33000 Euros, an alternative option is suspension of operations for 90 days. Some higher fines are set for doing this over mass media, and for non - citizens. In the latter case, deportation is also implied, and the fine can be replaced by 15 days arrest - something I don't really think will ever happen. All in all, this law is aimed at protecting minors. If the LGBT thinks that forbidding propaganda to minors affects their rights, then the real question is: maybe there is something wrong with their perception of rights? Side: Stay out of it
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