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yes, except few spam topics yes, anything is cool
Debate Score:133
Arguments:133
Total Votes:137
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Should any debate topic be allowed on this website?

Should there be a review of debate topics on this website?

(By allow, I don't mean a person from the website or any other person sitting and shutting down specific debates..

I am referring to self reviewing of the topic once, before we create it, to actually try to be clear on the quality of the debate we want to create..)

yes, except few spam topics

Side Score: 64
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yes, anything is cool

Side Score: 69

By allow, I don't mean a person from the website or any other person sitting and shutting down specific debates..

I am referring to self reviewing of the topic once, before we create it, to actually try to be clear on the quality of the debate we want to create..

I apologize for not mentioning this earlier, my bad..

Side: yes, except few spam topics
2 points

I believe that yes, any debate topic should be allowed on this website, except a few motions. But before that, let me define spam.

Spam: irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to large numbers of users, for advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.

I believe that we should always be able to monitor what goes on this website because anything that is unmonitored is a recipe for disaster. We are humans. People are evil. You can't just let anyone post anything. There may be incredibly disrespectful, pointless, useless motions that only would hurt and cause harm to our community. So Yes, we should be able to remove the spam messages, because there is no value in a post of spam, and there is whatsoever, no use of a message that contains spam at all.

Finally, I would like to end this debate with an analogy. Imagine you have a voting poll, and anyone can post anything. Some man keeps on advertising his products completely irrelevant to the actual use of the poll. Spam causes a lot of time wasted in filtering the messages, and overall annoying-ness. So in that way, no, spam should not be allowed on this website!

Side: yes, except few spam topics

Yes.

1)Because who decides what is worthy of deleting, and what if the moderator is a political or religious/anti religion hack?

2)If there are threats or certain words used the moderator has the right to delete and establish what those words are, such as the "N" word.

3)If not, then debate would be boring and no new concepts would be debated, which would become quickly pointless.

Side: yes, anything is cool
beastforever(423) Clarified
2 points

I agree that this a website for anyone to debate on anything, but sometimes, it so happens that we end up debating on pointless issues.. can this be avoided? of course, one can always choose to not debate on a particular topic, but some topics, are just not going to do good to anyone, provided the circumstances and opportunities to make a change.. so do we owe any "quality" to the topics we want to debate?

Side: yes, except few spam topics
2 points

If so, there need to be rules laid out beforehand and an alert that they exist.

Keep in mind that some debates are abstract. They may make people think, and they are good mental exercises. Examples?

"Am I the only one that actually exists?"

"Can God create a stone so heavy that He cannot lift it?"

These are abstract, and don't really "help" anyone, but they make for interesting philosophical debates.

Some debates are simply amusing and get alot of hits.

And finally, what if I was the moderator and I deemed all of your debates as "pointless" even though you had 200 comments, and I shut the debate down?

What if a Conservative was moderating, and a liberal created a feminism debate, and the mod said it's poor quality or pointless?

What if an Atheist was the mod, and all religious debates were deemed as pointless or low quality?

Which debates/topics are you referring to?

Side: yes, except few spam topics
2 points

Censorship is an attempt for a person or group to become authoritarian and keep their worldview in control or snatch control away.

Side: yes, anything is cool
1 point

Censorship is an attempt for a person or group to become authoritarian and keep their worldview in control or snatch control away.

There will be a crowd always opposing person's/ a group's views.. and that crowd, may or may not have "control".

either side of entities will have "control".

Having "control" is inevitable.

the crowd with control will try implying their idealogies to everyone.. whether they agree or disagree..

Side: yes, except few spam topics
2 points

Yes, so long as it follows the rules of the site. But just because a debate is posted it doesn't mean people have to respond. Don't like a debate posted? Don't respond to it. Simple

Side: yes, anything is cool
2 points

Everyone has an opinion on everything, so as long as there are two different choices (the choices not being synonyms) then I think that all topics should be allowed.

Side: yes, anything is cool
1 point

I know this site has rules and I'll abide by them. But I've shared my philosophy before and I'll say it again now...

A debate website should be like just about any conversation you'd have with a person face to face. You can say anything, with any words. If they don't like it they can argue back or they can walk away. So I think it should be anything goes. If you cross a line, such as cause a risk to public safety, or commit libel or slander, then you face the consequences, but you should be able at least initially to argue anything about anything and in any way you want to. And in terms of youngsters seeing it, well then either make a separate site just for the youngsters, or require everyone to sign a disclaimer each time they log in that they understand they may be subjected to language and arguments some might consider offensive.

Done.

Debate is debate. You can debate anything in debate. The moment you start saying "anything but..." and then censoring is the moment you allow people with agendas OTHER than debate to become the dominant players on the site. Admit it, the people who ban the most on this site aren't people who love debate for debate itself, it's people who love their issue and literally hate to actually debate that issue. That's not "CreateDebate", it's "CreateCan'tDebate".

Side: yes, anything is cool
beastforever(423) Clarified
1 point

Hey there, I pretty much get what you're saying here, and I believe in it too....

Do we, owe quality to the topics we create debates upon is my question..

Side: yes, except few spam topics
3 points

What defines "quality"? It would need to be pre-defined and be reasonable.

Side: yes, except few spam topics
1 point

Yes, but not at the expense of excluding the less serious topics. Membership and participation in this site is voluntary and each volunteer chooses which topics to launch and which to comment on. Supply and demand, marketplace of ideas, and all that. If too many stupid topics launch and not enough people keep them going then that discourages too many more stupid topics.

You already see this here on this site. There may be 5 or 6 dumb or lesser topics and then one big one will come along and everyone will pile onto that one. It works itself out.

Side: yes, anything is cool
1 point

Hello beast:

Yes, anything...

I think they should get rid of the BAN thing too, for the SAME exact reason..

excon

Side: yes, anything is cool
beastforever(423) Clarified
1 point

hey, ex

If not for the "ban", it would be wastage of resources on the website, don't you think?

while on the other hand, we do have cases when ban is used to simply end a debate abruptly...

so i don't think it actually has more disadvantages than advantages..

Side: yes, except few spam topics
excon(2116) Clarified
1 point

Hello again, beast:

If ANY topic is fine, why isn't every response to ANY topic fine too??

BAN the BAN!!

excon

Side: yes, except few spam topics
1 point

Isn't that already the case? At least thats I thought it was

Side: yes, anything is cool
-1 points

Yes, anything should be cool, but there are a few rules to keep in mind.

1. No profanity (yes we have tolerated it in the past), we are looking into anti-profanity filtering services.

2. If you have a topic that you feel would be offensive to a grade schooler (this site is used by many schools), it should be categorized as NSFW (Not Suitable for Work) which ensures it will never be displayed on the home page.

3. No personal attacks or threats

4. Zero tolerance for anything illegal

5. I am the moderator, and while I have my own beliefs, opinions and political alignment, I do not censor this site based on anything other than the above.

Side: yes, anything is cool
beastforever(423) Clarified
1 point

Nice to hear from you, I am not against people creating debates in the first place, I just want people to think on what they debate and if it is actually worth debating, (which can be different for all) I in no sense have any intention to stop people to be able to create debates...

Side: yes, except few spam topics