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Should armed guards be placed in schools?

"The National Rifle Association (NRA) called on Congress to act immediately to put armed security officers in every school and make sure "blanket safety" is in place before school resumes after holiday break.

"We need to make every school in America immediately deploy a protection program," said NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre. 

The NRA had been silent for a week following the Newtown school shooting, but it held a major press conference in Washington D.C. Friday morning. "

source: http://medford-ny.patch.com/articles/talk-back-should-armed-guards-be-placed-in-schools

Do you think that armed guards should be placed in schools as a safety precuation due to gun violence?

Yes

Side Score: 3
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No

Side Score: 6
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I think there should be armed guards in the schools so that if someone is going to be planning to do a school shooting you have armed guards to take care of the job.

Side: Yes
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
1 point

what about thinking first before posting?

100 000 schools in USA

Let's say 4 guards per shift per school. You need three shifts to be able of long time run. That makes 12 guards per school total.

12 x 100 000 = 1 200 000 guards + let's say 15% more (managing staff, HR, trainers...)

Total 1 380 000 people. That's seven times more than whole USMC.

It would cost about 55 200 000 000$/year (55 billion dollars every year)

or US may join more civilized countries and limit weapons between untrained, untested random people.

Side: No
MrPrime(268) Clarified
1 point

Not sure your numbers are good or not, but lets say it's expensive. A tax of guns and related accessories could generate 10-20 billion per year and cut down on "casual" gun ownership due to cost. Maybe we can start there?

I'm all for much stricter gun control, but until we can significantly lower the number of guns out there, I don't see any other way to deter shooters in the short and medium term.

Side: Yes

I don't think it would be a bad idea, but people who hate the government on every level wouldn't like it.

I think it would be prudent to not only have heavily-trained guards at schools put there by the elected officials of cities or counties (and I mean like, Rambo-bad-ass in how trained they are), but I also think there should be a tight surveillance system put in place so that the school guards have eyes and ears on every instance of there being someone with a weapon.

Side: Yes

No, the problem is in gun law and 300 000 000 guns lying around US.

One fat and half sleeping "police" guy sitting by the door? He simply gets a bullet as the first one.

Side: No
1 point

Exactly! That's why we should arm the teachers like Israel, some colleges, and some school districts. It's a lot cheaper and requires a ton less people. The only people you need are people to train the teachers.

Side: No
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
1 point

proper training is long and very expensive, most of teachers would not even be interested in undergoing that, this will be very inefficient.

You would also have to train most of teachers in every school because they do not stay all day and every day, they aren't factory workers also some school are quite large.

This is not a solution.

It reminds me a story from times of first Apollo, scientist in NASA had to solve issue with pens that does not work without gravity and pressure. It took them about 3 months to design crazy pen that will works. Cost was about $500 000 (like 3 millions now).

Russians gave their astronauts a pencil...

If a problem is easy accessibility of guns then giving more people guns will most likely doesn't work.

What if teacher goes mad?

Side: Yes

Dangerous! An unstable student can tackle the armed guard, take his gun, and then go on a massacre.

Side: No