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Yes, honest and to the point They have to talk stupid a lot
Debate Score:34
Arguments:50
Total Votes:39
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Should atheists/agnostics simply say "I'm a fool"?

Does God make atheists stupid, so they think that existing excuses their sin?

Yes, honest and to the point

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They have to talk stupid a lot

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AlofRI(1487) Banned
3 points

Well, tit for tat. You have told ME I was a fool, maybe not a hundred times, but, getting close! I don't think you are a fool for believing, I think the foolishness comes from insisting that everyone that doesn't see things YOUR way deserves to go to your HELL! (AND for elevating yourself to sainthood!). I don't think you are a fool, I just think you suffer from extreme disillusionment. (Is that a word? hmmm.) If the shoe fits.....

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

Thank you. It would be much simpler and honest for you to say "I'm a fool", but you have succeeded in making yourself appear as a fool so I guess you did okay for the purpose of the debate.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

The Bible says you are a fool (Psalm 14:1). I agree with God; he says you are a fool so I say you are a fool. Simple; see?

We all deserve to burn in Hell forever as sinners. Why not admit it? Why be a fool and dare God to prove to you that you deserved to burn in Hell forever?

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

I don't want to read your stuff any more, it's too dumb........................................

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
1 point
Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

Just for you, Grenade, because you are the Queen Whiner about being banned, you are banned.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

I'm sure you said something much too stupid to be worth my time reading, so I won't read it. I just want to be sure you know you are banned, so you will have something to whine about.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

winos don't care if they look like fools.......and I don't care if you whine about being banned. You're on your way to Hell, there is no need for you to comment in my debates.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
1 point

Yes. I am a fool, like everyone. We know very little of the universe. To is my humility that allows me to continue to learn from sources without join any set way of thinking.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

I really don't think you are a fool. You admitted that dying scares you. As far as I can remember, you are the only person who has argued with me and admitted that they fear dying. . When you fear dying you are beginning to fear God and that is a sign of hope. Most people are afraid to admit that they fear dying....and many of them actually do not fear it or God. They are fools. I do not fear dying any longer. Pain and suffering can be scary, but I know it will be over and I will be forever free of it in Heaven with a new body like Jesus' body was when He rose from the dead...free of death, free from sin, alive forever more. He offers the only hope, sure hope, of life. He is the gift of God which is eternal life through Him....receive Him by faith as your Savior, the One who died for your sins and conquered death for all who trust Him, and you will have eternal life and He will live in you by His spirit and carry you through all the pain and suffering of this world. All you have to do is swallow your pride and admit you are a sinner who deserves to die and burn in Hell, believe from your heart the God has raised Jesus from the dead and He is God the Savior, and ask God in Jesus name to forgive you of your sins and come into your heart and save you and He will make your life new....forever.

Wisdom begins with fearing God. Fools will not fear God, and He eventually tires of their foolishness and lets them go to Hell where they would rather be than to have God rule over them.The truth will make you free. What you are doing is holding yourself in a set way of thinking based on the belief that you cannot know God and cannot be sure of His mercy and cannot have eternal life with no pain or suffering in Heaven. Your set way of thinking is keeping you boxed in, and the box is your coffin. You need to be freed.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
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6 points

They look even more foolish when they claim ttyl be a saint.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

I'll lift the ban on you....I don't know what you are saying, I won't read it, but I'm sure you are setting a fine example of how stupid atheism is and how much simpler it would be, and more honest, if the atheist would just say, "I'm an atheist, I'm a fool".

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

Comeon, Cartman, act the fool some more please. Say something.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
-3 points
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
-4 points
Antrim(927) Banned
5 points

Au contraire;- The believer is happy, the atheist is wise.

Having observed the phenomenon of Christian 'sheepeople' for a lifetime I have concluded that the inspiration of the bible is wholly dependent on the ignorance of those who read it.

Having also observed the horrendous events throughout history it is clear that the ''impotence' of the so called Christian god is infinite.

I believe passionately that anyone who is, or claims to be, sufficiently gullible to believe in the superstitious ramblings of the bible should automatically be formally banned from holding public office and strictly forbidden to be involved in any activity which involves contact with children.

Some clever Christian ( excuse the oxymoron) or some group of Christians ( now that's really pushing the boat out) should spend time translating the Bible from Mumbo Jumbo into Gobbledygook.

Well yes, there are some clever Christians, there must be, as all religions, including Christianity, are founded on the fear and stupidity of the many and the cleverness of the few.

Side: They have to talk stupid a lot
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

I think I told you that I would not read your posts and would ban you immediately when I could, so you are banned.

Too bad you are a puppet of your peers.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
4 points

If your god purposefully makes atheists stupid so that they won't believe him, and he has an excuse to send them to hell, then your god is despicable. A god who creates sentient beings with the purpose of being tortured is not a good god.

Side: They have to talk stupid a lot
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

So you are trying to blame God for making you stupid? Does God not give you the freedom to remain stupid, and the freedom to change your mind and trust Him?

I think you feel that you must be stupid and have no choice in the matter, and really that is pretty stupid don't you think?

Why don't you just say "I'm a fool" instead of trying to imitate your puppet masters who put on a show while you applaud them and fall under their spell. Do you think that your puppet masters can follow their lusts all the way through death and remain outside of Hell, and keep you from falling into the fire?

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
Mack(119) Disputed
1 point

I'm not blaming God for making me stupid. I'm saying that either he's made me stupid with the purpose of making me an atheist, or he hasn't.

If God exists, and if I am stupid, yes I would have the freedom to trust him, but as you put it, someone who is stupid doesn't have a choice in the matter of being stupid and therefore doesn't really have a choice in the matter of believing in stupid things. Again, I'm not saying I'm stupid, I'm saying that this would be the case if I were stupid.

"Why don't you just say "I'm a fool"

I won't go so far as to say that, but I am willing to admit that I there's a lot I don't know. Are you?

And no, I'm not trying to imitate my "puppet masters." I have none.

And I think you will find that my grammar is correct. I wasn't specifically referring to 'God,' just any god that would do such a thing as to create people just so that he can punish them for a trait that he created them with. And you're right, I don't know God, but I suspect you don't either. What I do know, is that any all powerful being who creates lower beings specifically so that he can torture them is a coward. Anyone who worships such a god is no better, and as you put it, a fool.

Side: They have to talk stupid a lot
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

Why is your grammar sufficient to correctly capitalize the first letter of the first word of each new sentence, but you fail to capitalize God's name? Is it because you are talking about a god who is not God? Because you do not know my God, and you only know gods which are not good? Do you argue against those gods because you feel like they are no better than you, and you feel that if they can exist outside of Hell, you can exist outside of Hell? Do you feel powerful when you fight against gods, and do you feel like you are avoiding God by fighting against gods?

A god which is good to you is no better than a god which tortures you, because the intent of both of those gods is to keep you separated from God who would lovingly correct you or loving bless you as He sees fit for your own good....and you sure need some correction (we all do).

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

You need, for now, to be concerned about where you are going. Do you think that calling God "despicable" will cause Him to keep you from falling into Hell? Do you want people around you calling you "despicable"? You really think God is supposed to just ignore people who call Him "despicable" and let them remain outside of Hell? Heaven would be a stinky place like Earth if God were to be so weak as you seem to imply He should be.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

You're a seventeen year old punk and there is nothing civil about what you are doing here. You're only fooling yourself if you think you are showing good manners and civility while you do nothing but insult God and those who trust in Him. Atheists are not capable of civil discourse when talking about God. I've listened to many of the best mannered and many of the worst like the ones here.....none of them are civil and few of them, like you, even try to pretend to be civil. Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
Dermot(2572) Banned
3 points

Demonstrates how spectacularly stupid you are by asking ..... Does god make atheists stupid ?

Yet your pea brain never thinks why would god make atheists in the first place ?

Side: They have to talk stupid a lot
Antrim(927) Clarified Banned
1 point

Hi D-Please check your inbox.

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Side: Yes, honest and to the point
Dermot(2572) Banned
2 points

Thanks Antrim ... it's sorted 👌...........................................

Side: They have to talk stupid a lot
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

Do atheists have to be stupid ?

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

Please add some cussing and jack ass antics so maybe you will not sound like a fool, but rather you will sound like a devil monkey (or is that still a fool?)

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

You are not looking for "intellectual stimulation", you are just looking to flatter yourself. That's why you turn tailed and ran when you realized I'm not going to be impressed by your punky ways.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
Dermot(2572) Disputed Banned
1 point

No , I merely put you in your place and you don't like it do you ?

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

Thank you for your contribution, but you are too foul mouthed for me to read. Typical fool.

Why don't you quit acting the fool and just say "I'm a fool". There is no need for you to be a jack ass in order to prove you are a fool.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

Thanks for your comments, try to get others interested in your foolishness.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
1 point

Maybe instead of acting so cocky you could actually try to use logic?

Atheists don't believe in god because there is a clear lack of proof, so they are not going to just assume that one exists.

(Personal anecdotes are incredibly weak evidence because it is dependent of the individual and there are people all around the world that have claimed to see a number of different gods/goddesses.)

Next time actually try to reach out to them, understand their reasoning and try to find a logical way to convince them. Then and only then will they actually care about the stuff you're spewing out of your mouth.

Side: They have to talk stupid a lot
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

I don't know what you are talking about when you say "Atheists don't believe in god". I don't believe in god because I don't know what it is. Can you describe it to me?

This is why it is easier for an atheist to simply say "I'm a fool" than for them to try to express their beliefs. They can't even admit that gods are not God, and only God can be God, so they can't admit they don't know what they are talking about and all they can do is make fools of themselves and they can't be honest enough to admit it.

The truth is simple. God is there. Lies are complicated, that is why atheists always have to twist things in every direction. Your leaders are taking you to Hell, and they have taught you so well to follow them that you think you are leading yourself.....and God will hold you accountable for going your own way, and for all you have said and done with your time. If you were not a fool, you would prepare to meet your God because there is an appointment for you and you will be there.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point
norochan(35) Disputed
2 points

Clearly you are the epitome of wisdom and humility.

When I refer to god I mean "(in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being."

(http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/egomaniac)

Once again, stop acting cocky and actually prove your point. You are an egomaniac that assumes they don't have to prove anything because it is so obvious. It is not.

Any theist with a bit of sense realizes that this is a complicated issue, and therefore it needs to be discussed further. Please join them.

Side: Yes, honest and to the point