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Debate Score:39
Arguments:35
Total Votes:42
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Should children be baptized?

Yes

Side Score: 19
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No

Side Score: 20
3 points

If they wish to be baptized, yes.

Side: Yes
Cuaroc(8829) Clarified
1 point

Should of made it more clear was meaning infants.

Side: Yes
2 points

As long as they aren't being drowned, what is the harm?

This isn't like circumcision. The baby isn't having a part of it's body mutilated. Instead, it just has water doused on it for a reason it does not understand.

Side: Yes
2 points

I believe that if the children who know the purpose of baptism and knows about God a lot and wants to be baptized then I believe they should because baptism resembles that you are showing the whole world that you are going to follow Jesus for the rest of your life and when you go down in the water represents you put your old self away and when you come up from the water your a new person just like Christ did when He rose from the grave!

Side: Yes
1 point

From a Christians standpoint, yes. In Acts you find many coverts being baptized by the apostles alongside their families. We do not know if their families believed also but it implies many times that only the one member of the family was a believer and because of that the entire family went with him/her. This shows that physical baptism is a symbol of the grace of God, not a means to achieve salvation.

Side: Yes
Cuaroc(8829) Clarified
2 points

Just to clarify you want to force mothers to give birth even if the child is a result of rape so you can force the babies into your religion? Interesting.

Side: Yes
lolzors93(3225) Clarified
2 points

1) Who said I force mothers to give birth? I don't force anyone to not murder someone; however, I do warn against it and disapprove of it and think that it is morally repugnant.

2) Simply being physically baptized does not mean one is apart of the religion. It is a symbol of God's grace to humankind. The families in Acts are never said to be converted nor remain unbelievers. We do not know. However, if they did not convert, they would still have been baptized yet a non-Christian.

3) Most people equivocate physical baptism with spiritual baptism.

Side: Yes
Cambriel(711) Clarified
1 point

Wait.. I think even if you baptize babies, you dont force them into your religion.. One day they'd be grownups and they would freely choose their religion anyway..

Side: Yes

A parent has the right to choose to baptize their infant child. It is part of their culture.

Side: Yes
Elvira(3446) Disputed
1 point

Take this point of view. What if you hadn't chosen a religion yet, and the people looking after you forcibly initiated you into one, before you could speak?

Side: No

Yes since in religious context it is a way of setting them on the right path. What makes people believe in God is not about his existence but the teachings and philosophies taught in the church. These philosophies help us in living a noble life. Plus when the child grows up he or she may choose the religion or belief it wants.

Side: Yes

It is up to the parents to make this decision. There are parents who think it is their moral duty to have their children baptized.

Side: Yes
0 points

Yes this just shows that there can be a better future if they believe in God and are replenished from all the sins they have committed

Side: Yes
Elvira(3446) Disputed
1 point

This is specculation.

Side: No
2 points

No. Its like strapping a brain washing helmet onto them at infancy. Now i know they dont remember it but its what comes after. If a baby is baptized then the parents are probably very religious and wil take that child to church where, if it is taught often and strictly enough, will be indoctrinated into the faith and will not question it. It will have lost its right and will to choose what it wants to believe. Lets say it was kept out of church of any kind. Then at the age of reason (about 14 for most) you give them access to ALL of the facts and teachings for EVERY religion and Atheism. then they truely have the freedom to be attracted to what they are naturally and can have their proper faith or lack thereof. Thats the only way christianity still thrives. Coversion rates from christianity to Atheism are FAR higher than any other. Which shows that people are getting wise to things and making their own decisions. The way its staying alive is by birth rates among christians. These children are born then indocrinated into the religion and taught not to ask questions or seek other beliefs. This keeps them in the religion. If they arent taught well enough studies show theyre likely to leave.

Side: No

While I agree that religion continues to thrive primarily due to childhood indoctrination, unfortunately parents have the say when it comes to teaching their kids beliefs and opinions. I'm sure a good portion of the Republicans in this country are only Republican because their parents were, and their parents forced their opinions on them at a young age, but that's the parents right. It's their kid, and from their point of view they are trying to impart wisdom on how to live a good life.

You have beef with parents forcing their religion onto children, and they think they should wait till 14 to influence their child at all in this regard. But what if the kids parents are reactionary conservatives? Are they allowed to force their view on their children, in that case? What if the parents are neo-Nazis? My point is there are all kinds of poisonous beliefs parents can force on their children, and only some of them are religious in nature; to suggest, then, that parents shouldn't influence their children until the age of 14 so they don't fall prey to bad religion means they should also not influence their child at all in any of his or her beliefs until the are of 14. I think you'll agree that's completely ridiculous, unrealistic, and impossible to regulate.

Side: No
2 points

Clearly, we should let the state dictate what beliefs our children should have.

Side: No
AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
1 point

Unrealistic yes. But it should still be strived for. I know thats what im going to do. And if they ask "what do you believe dad?" ill give them equal unbiased info for religion, politics, whatever, and always follow it up with "but youre free to make your own decisions."

Side: Yes
Srom(12206) Clarified
1 point

Just to clarify Roman Catholics are the ones that baptize at birth not in general Christians.

Side: Yes
1 point

No also Lutherans Baptize children around birth.

Side: No
2 points

No.

Side: No
2 points

No- if they want to go through this christian ritual they can when they're old enough to make the choice. It's unfair to initiate a child into a religion before it can even speak.

Side: No

No, they should not. Let them choose they own delusion when they will be 18. They most likely became non believers which is unwanted because that's mean no $$$ for local Church.

Side: No
1 point

I have nothing against the practice but I believe that people should only be baptised if it is their choice and they know the meaning behind it otherwise it is pointless, religion and what path you want to follow should be a personal choice

Side: No
1 point

Baptism is a public declaration of faith. It does not offer salvation or any sort of 'protection from evil' or any such nonsense. All you are accomplishing with infantile baptism is a wet child. Baptism is for the believer, not an infant.

Side: No
1 point

A guy in a dress splashes water on you to magically protect you from the boogey man. Why not a magic wand too?

Side: No
nummi(1432) Disputed
1 point

Why not a magic wand too?

Copyright infringement? Or whatever it is. Harry Potter... wands... Dumbledore - a guy in a dress...

Side: Yes