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Children should be spanked Spanking children is criminal
Debate Score:34
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Should corporal punishment in child rearing be the big issue that it's become!

Is it discipline...or abuse! (blog.myspace.com)

Children should be spanked

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Spanking children is criminal

Side Score: 20

Spanking your children is no one's business while beating your child is everyone's business. I think that's the way it should be. Myself and my three brothers were never hit as children or teens and I really can't remember if we were spanked at a very early age but I doubt it. I won't go as far as to say that children SHOULD be spanked but I would agree that they very well COULD be once in a great while. A little slap on the back of a thigh sure gets their attention!

Mine was the kind of mother that spoke with you when you committed a child's high crimes and misdemeanors! That would mean putting a brand new hardball through the front porch window down to not doing a chore that was assigned to you. I don't think a mother or father should take their frustrations out on a child of any age but I do think that either one has the right to give the child a "thigh reminder" when the child has behaved like a brat and conversation cannot be had at that moment. "We'll talk about this when we get home" is always a good thing to say to the child. It means we're not done yet and I'll have more to say later. It also means that "I won't embarrass you in front of everyone." That is the most caring thing you can do for a child or a teen. Explain what they've done wrong and try to correct it until they finally get it. Punishment needn't be over the top for a child to know you care.

Side: Children should be spanked
2 points

Cildren should be taught early in life that actions have consequences. Spanking is one of these teaching tools. However, this belongs only to parents, not any government entity. Also, there is a difference between spanking in the butt and beating. Spanking good, beating bad

Side: Children should be spanked
1 point

Spanking a child implies several things but mainly it implies you care and this type of behavior is inappropriate and will not be tolerated. Children tend not to accept the I care part until they are grown up and have children of their own...then they understand. When you take away privileges but do not police or follow through children don't take you seriously. A spanking is swift and just. Just use common sense and don't try and hurt your children because you're only trying to discipline.

Side: Children should be spanked
1 point

Yeah, kids are out of control. Spank the shit out of them. There's nothing pemanant about a few slaps on the ass, and sometimes it's the only way to get the annoying little bastards to listen I think.

I don't have kids, but I'm pretty sure if I did they would be annoying me right now, and I would have to spank them.

Side: Children should be spanked
1 point

i've always been pretty good with psychology, so i myself wouldn't spank my kids if i ever decided to have some... i know of other methods.

but, the simple fact is, most parents can't psychologically fix their kids, mainly cause THEY'RE NOT PSYCHOLOGISTS!!!!

and there are so many kids out there that need to get the shit smacked out of them. seriously, how could parents not smack some of these little shits that run around stores "o, i don't want to be abusive". bitch, he just spit in your eye.

it's not bad parenting if you spank your kid when he does something wrong, but it's horrible parenting when your kid is a little shit and you won't hit him.

Side: Children should be spanked
1 point

My father never spanked us. He'd sit down and talk to us in a calm, firm way. We deeply respected him until the day he passe away. My mom would threaten us with the yard stick, but never did more than a swat on the back of the legs. But, we had to have been really obnoxious to get that. Usually, we'd all start cracking up and would talk about it and work it out.

Yet, I do believe that a little "dusting of the pants" does get a child's attention, and I have used it on a handful of occasions. But, I have found that letting my children know the expectations and boundaries goes a long way. So, does consistency and respect.

Besides, once my son reached 6'3" and with a black belt in karate, I really didn't feel like using the corporal punishment route on him. I mean, afterall, I don't know how to get out of a choke hold! But, a light spank on the legs sure was effective when he was younger.

So, yes, a small spanking can go a long way every once in awhile.

This reminds me of a couple I once saw in a major home improvement store. The father was verbally and physically attacking the child. It was more than I could stand to watch, it went over the line for a child who was barely 3. Made me wonder if some parents are taking the spanking thing a bit too far and crossing the line into venting their frustrations with their own lives out on their child.

Side: Children should be spanked
1 point

I have a 2 year old daughter, and as she grows up, I do plan to spank her, spanking reminds the child to do the right thing, and shows the parent cares!

Side: Children should be spanked
0 points

You mean you actually have a two year old you HAVEN'T spanked yet but plan to as she grows up??? I wonder how much time a parent gets for pre-meditated spankings?

Side: Spanking children is criminal
1 point

i reckon! sometimes you need to no the difference between hurting and discipline!

Side: Spanking children is criminal

Who's business is it? If some people think it's okay to spank their kids, then let them raise their kids their way. If it's not okay, nobody is forcing you to spank your kids.

Side: Children should be spanked
0 points

I won't go as far as to say children "should" be spanked. That would be a ridiculous generalization. I think that there are some children who it wouldn't hurt and very well may be helpful with. And then there are children who you can just look at sideways or let them know they've disappointed you, and that's all that's needed. It just depends on the child. Putting all in children into one category is like saying that all dogs should be raised the same. The toughness required to teach a Pit Bull its place would quickly break the spirit of a Golden Retriever.

Side: Children should be spanked
4 points

My belief is that if striking an adult human in such a fashion is considered assault, and that if striking an animal to intentionally cause pain is considered cruelty, why should it be permissible to employ such acts against a child? As to the "running in the street" or the "reaching for the fire or hot object" justifications, these are merely rationalizations to utilize physical assaults that could otherwise be dealt with by physically removing the child from a hazardous situation.Nor are they logical analogies for future corporal punishment against older children.

I'm 60 years old, a parent, a grand-parent and BOTH my parents were Army veterans from WWII. Neither of them used corporal punishment against my younger brother and I, and neither of us have had to spend time in jail or prison. However, my working-class parents were deeply concerned and involved in the upbringing and education enough to ensure that their sons had some modicum of discipline and civil behavior. In my case, I attended Catholic school from kindergarten to 12th grade. Miraculously, I went through the experience with not having once been subjected to any corporal punishment by the priests, nuns or lay teachers, though I was far from being considered an "angel".

I never spanked my son, now a 37 year old family man and owner of a group of restaurants. While employed as a full-time union representative, I was also the sole domestic caregiver for ailing parents, with Dad passing away at 76 with Parkinson's in 2000 and Mom, with moderate Alzheimer's, just last July from cardiac arrest at 90.

It wasn't an easy road, but I didn't have to be physically struck to acquire ethics, civility, empathy, compassion and family values.

Side: Spanking children is criminal

I just give my kids Okra as a punishment. The slimier the better. Then when they go to therapy the worst they can say is that Dad made them eat healthy ;)

Side: Spanking children is criminal
3 points

I've lived with a masochistic spanking fetish since conscious awareness at age 9. Living in fear and shame I hid and denied it most of my life. Internet educated me about real others engaging in this aberrant sexual desire. I learned about BDSM. I told my wife, she tried to sexually engage this strange need. She hated it. I sought other spanking fetish people to engage. I started getting childhood post traumatic stress disorder flashbacks from mothers hand spankings. I felt I was being killed by that degree of shame in forced semi-nudity and genital exposure to her for the spanking. It felt like sexual abuse. I became depressed. Psychotherapy of 2.5 years has taught me I was abused. I was a shy sensitive child. I was traumatized. The spanking fetish was created from that trauma to protect me from the psychological pain of the abuse from spanking by my mother. I wouldn't wish this on any child. Psychological damage can and does occur. Spanking fetishist are are the result of that trauma. Parents can have such fetishes and be motivated to spank their children more for their own pleasure even if they deny it is pleasure. I 'll never forget the smile my mother had when she spanked. The abuse is cyclical, she had a spanking fetish and so did I. Spanking is criminal! I does harm so children.

Side: Spanking children is criminal
1 point

i couldn't agree more! >:I

we need to stand up!

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!

Side: Spanking children is criminal
2 points

I think if the system (the schools, the police and the courts) would leave the child rearing to the parents we would all be a lot better off. When you tell a child they can't go out for a week except to school or that they can't use their cell phone for a period of time for example...but two days later you start making exceptions or you give back the cell phone priviledges early it sets a bad example. When a kid gets a time out a slap on the wrist when they create a criminal offense and get sent home with mom and dad by the time they are 18 they think nothing can touch them. Also if you don't really take the time to punish your child they may not say it but some kids feel you don't care enough to take the time to punish them. If you do spank your child and you didn't beat them or bruise them I don't feel you should go to jail but apparently some people feel you should including the system.

Side: Spanking children is criminal
2 points

Sometimes the system cannot leave the child rearing to the parents of a child. Many times, in those cases the parents are worse than the child! I believe it's a good thing that these stop-gaps are in place but I think they're way overused as well. It's a very tough call now that your child is everyone's business.

I do not, at all, understand what you wrote here "When a kid gets a time out a slap on the wrist when they create a criminal offense and get sent home with mom and dad by the time they are 18 they think nothing can touch them." A kid goes home with mom and dad when they are of a pretty young age or have been suspended from school. Are you saying that you would allow your child to continue to get away with bad behavior until they're 18 years of age? I should think YOU would have lost the battle by that time!

Also, giving in to your child's wishes to get out of punishment does set a bad example...for YOU! Kids are very manipulative and once they realize they can manipulate you, you've lost the war as well. One thing I'm not really clear on either is your definition of spanking! What might that entail? Would it be anything up to bruising or less?

In today's world you must be very careful. I once heard a story about a kid who threatened her mother by telling her she was going to call child protective services if she wouldn't let her go out that week-end!!! What next?

Side: You're dealing with fire on this one
2 points

DON'T HURT THE FUTURE GENERATION!!!!!!!!!

I speak on behalf of all the childeren in the world getting hurt by being spanked! No child should ever go through a life of being moulded into something 'perfect' because nobody is! Your bringing up the future to be violent!

Side: Spanking children is criminal
2 points

Of course we don't realize that spanking isn't right, we are living in a society where dysfunction is the norm! And when you're conscious enough to step out of what you were conditioned to believe is normal, you realize that you've been completely desensitized to so many things that aren't right.

We are born into a society where violence and fear is a normal everyday thing. You turn on the news and your bombarded with shootings, stabbings, rape etc. A normal hardworking, guy, who has a wife and two kids, who believes in spanking because he was spanked as a child and there's nothing wrong with him, can come home sit at his computer and harmlessly look at pornography as so many men (and even some women) do. But are the things that pornography have to offer really normal? Are all of the fetishes, dominance, and violence in the world of pornography really okay?

What about all of the movies, we watch? The video games we give to our children? The shows on television? There is so much violence and dysfunction around us, and yes many of us realize it, but it is so normal, that we don't think much of it. So really, why do we live in a world where sexual perversion and violence are normal everyday things?

Spanking, whether or not people like hearing this, is a form of violence: "Violence is the expression of physical or verbal force against self or other, compelling action against one's will on pain of being hurt." -Wikipedia

With all of the dysfunctional adults in the world, wouldn't it be wise to look at their childhoods? How many of them were hit? How many of them were spanked? There certainly are varying degrees of abuse. One person who was spanked as a child may grow up with a fetish for it, or they most likely will believe that it's okay to hurt their children in the same way. While another child who was sadistically beaten daily, by let's say an alcoholic father, will probably have more obvious issues, that even in a dysfunctional society would stand out.

This is not coming from someone who hasn't experienced it either. I as a little girl, was spanked by my father. It was very "normal" as most people would call it. He never did anything out of the ordinary, and yet it affected me traumatically. I grew up with severe anxiety and intimacy issues, and only very recently while pregnant with my first child, did I realize there was a connection from my issues, to being spanked as a child.

The buttocks is a sexual organ, and it is through nerves connected to other sexual private organs, such as the penis and the vagina. Children are sexual beings, they have sensation in their private areas just as much as adults do. The act of spanking, is a violation to these sexual and private areas. Especially if there is no pants covering that area.

Spanking is a sexual perverse and demoralizing act, that teaches fear and humiliation. How can you teach a child to respect you, when you are not respecting them? How can you teach a child logic and reasoning through the means of fear?

Side: Spanking children is criminal

Corporal punishment is child abuse. Corporal punishment leaves a mental scar on a child that carries into adulthood.

Side: Spanking children is criminal