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Yes they should. In fact, everyone should stop "bashing" period and just stick to constructive criticism. Incendiary comments aren't going to improve anything.
Just because 1 or 2 of the more important people of some divisions are corrupt doesn't mean you can make a sweeping statement about the whole religion, it's understandable why people follow the tabloids and complain about an embedded tradition simply because they have nothing better to do in their life
The problem is the nature of a cult deems that the act of simply not believing = bashing. It is the nature of the victimization mentality essential for ensuring the continuation of some "enemy" which is almost universally essential for the propegation of religion.
Hence how a country like the US with over 85% christian population and an even higher representation rate,
can with a straight face each year like clockwork cry about their imagined war on Christmas.
So yeah, one doesn't have to bash any religion. However pointing out facts does tend to put this ilk in a defensive position.
Let me just say that there is a major difference between critiquing/discussing, and bashing. Bashing has a directly negative connotation that implies debasing and humiliating the religion and all its participants for... what reason? To fulfill some personal vendetta? That's not how conversations on religion should go.
If you want to make a civil debate out of Christianity and discuss what fallacies you might see in its doctrine, then by all means, have at it.
I wish to echo what other well-minded people have said. Bashing, as a form of senseless derogatory insults should not be a part of any debate. However I don't believe that any belief, religious or otherwise is exempt from logic and critical thinking.
Christianity is more than the actions of it's Church which have been questionable it is a belief and a way of life. It is a faith simple as that and a harmless one which is based in ethical values and on the simple principle of unconditional love which is beyond critisim. I agree that many Christians do not practice what they preach because they are intolerant of the natural differences of the human race but it is those people who should be critisized not christianity. The belief in unconditional love may be impossible in practice and illogical in nature but it is a worthy goal to strive for despite the ironically infuriating actions of some of it's many followers.
Whenever anyone starts criticizing Christianity, it generally is always followed by "well i believe" or "what they believe is stupid". How can you judge Christianity? without, our society would be a heck of a lot worse. I was born into an Anglican family, went to a Catholic school, am dating a Muslim, my two best friends are Buddhists and I'm a Pagan. So what?
I love religion. It is the foundation of everything good that happens in the world. Christianity preaches love and family, with a delightful place called heaven waiting for all the good people, and all the bad people can go to Hell. :)
Just think of how old it is...and how it has evolved. It really is amazing
yes, why attack someone because of their religion its kind of like racism. why don`t you try doin something else with yout life and leave christians alone
Exactly.. All the religions have a right to their existence if they are a factor that makes one happy.. N yeah...no religion supports terrorism man...!
Absolutely... As civilized genre of the society it is recommended that we stop insulting the believes of the few who feel satisfied with the fullness of a religious existence. People should quit fooling with others emotions.
i apologize, but if you want to create a debate you must listen to the extremists, they do represent some of the population in this community and the world. Also, his argument was not the most brutal one that could be posted. In fact, i believe his argument was short, however, it was quite the opposite of extremist, i believe every knowledgeable atheist could tell you the majority or religions contain major logical and ethical flaws. Christianity is no exception. If you want to create a debate on the topic you should be prepared for strong opinions on both sides.
Depends on the definition of "Bashing". No one should form a prejudicial attack on anyone. Yet if they have a dissenting opinion regarding the claimants position, they have a right to express it.
To win a debate opinions should be left out of it. Facts and only facts, without bias and propaganda should only be used. Anything else is prejudice and only prejudice. This by any other name is still bashing.
The Church (whatever denomination) as an institution should be intensely scrutinized by believers as much as possible. Non-believers, on the other hands, have gone far out of their way to strike against Christianity. As a faith, no one should bash Christianity, for that is a system of beliefs that stands far beyond human scrutiny. Who can rightfully hate a faith that demands its followers to love those who persecute them? Then again, who can rightfully hate? It is not the faith that should be criticized, but those who lead and propogate it, and their number one critics should be the followers of that faith. The Church should police itself through its followers, but no government should police a Church.
Faith should definitely be scrutinized regardless of the denomination. Belief that is not supported by logic or evidence is fruitless. If believers think that non-believers have no reasoning or ground to stand on, they can and should ask for evidence or reasoning by which they reject said religious belief. The same goes for non-believers in regards to believers. If we, as a society, do not question or criticize, how do we then discover truth?
The Church (whatever denomination) as an institution should be intensely scrutinized by believers as much as possible. Non-believers, on the other hands, have gone far out of their way to strike against Christianity. As a faith, no one should bash Christianity, for that is a system of beliefs that stands far beyond human scrutiny. Who can rightfully hate a faith that demands its followers to love those who persecute them? Then again, who can rightfully hate? It is not the faith that should be criticized, but those who lead and propogate it, and their number one critics should be the followers of that faith. The Church should police itself through its followers, but no government should police a Church.
Sorry, no Atheist Extremists here. Punishment= Banishment.
So.. you are saying, only Christians should answer whether or not people should stop "bashing" Christianity? Doesn't everyone have equal say? Might as well ask Republicans if they think that a purely Republican ideal is a bad thing.
Its not that "only Christians should answer whether or not people should stop bashing." Its that Christians should seriously scrutinize the institution they profess their beliefs with. As with any person who follows a particular group, it is up to the followers to meet the views of the group with criticism instead of being spoon fed everything, including Republicans.
Over all, the bashing should stop as Christians have the right, just like any other, to believe what they want regardless of how ridiculous it seems. It is when Christian ideals conflict with other peoples' rights that they should be met with resistance. But bashing? No, that's just plain immature.
So.. you are saying, only Christians should answer whether or not people should stop "bashing" Christianity? Doesn't everyone have equal say? Might as well ask Republicans if they think that a purely Republican ideal is a bad thing.
Only neutral commentators are allowed to put comments, no Atheist or Christian extremists here.
What is so illogical about Christianity? It is a religion.. Harmless source of satisfaction to it's followers. It teaches good.. It helps people believe in the power of goodness over the bad.
Faith does not lack logic. If you believe faith lacks logic. So does every other emotion on this planet in every context. Yes. Religions.. Of all kinds all over the World cause harm.. But it is not the religion but the followers and I'd like to add..eliminate the reasons causing such an issue. Not the Religion itself. You cannot simply out throw something because it is being mis-used and ignore the features that are so strong. You have to alter the differences. And I've never heard of any Religion that teaches evil. What are you talking about?
Faith by definition involves asserting an unsupported/unsupportable claim.
... emotions are not arguments.
Can religion not be a reason why people harm each other?
Is religion not a dividing line, something which can be pivotal in whether an us and them mentality which causes tensions and alienation amongst groups?
"religion teaching evil" wasn't what I was stating, rather some religions like the gnostics teached that the god which created this world was imperfect or malevolent. That the material world was more or less evil, and that a good number of people were inherently doomed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism Some religions do not teach the triumph of good over evil, and really even if all of them did it wouldn't necessarily be a positive thing.
What faith feeds on does not matter until it's blinded. N i agree it is in some cases. But,if the same faith that according to you is non-existent but to many is a fact, helps one with more confidence.. Or guides one into the right path, it is after all not the worst of it's kind.
Emotions may not be arguments.. But emotions are the basic support to human life. To some of those who are not born strong... Emotions are the Pillars. And faith is a major light that lets them live foe good.
Your right.. Today religion is the biggest reason causing disasters. But, It is a better choice to learn Co-operation instead of just eliminating them. And your not wrong when you say that this is striking this terrible line. Who would not agree? But,there is a solution. There is.. 'Secularism.' It will work if it's instated appropriately and made understood.
Thanks for the Link.
Although not all teach the positivity..most do. And why wont that kind of a teaching be a good thing? It is, but a guide that shows them the right way.
What faith feeds on does not matter until it's blinded. N i agree it is in some cases. But,if the same faith that according to you is non-existent but to many is a fact, helps one with more confidence.. Or guides one into the right path
As I've argued very strongly on one of my debates, Blind Faith is indistinguishable from true faith. Faith just as often leads to a destructive path take militant Islam for example. That faith sometimes leads to a rightful path, is merely a function of chance. Even a broken clock is right 2 times a day.
how dare you. You have created a debate then banned everyone with a strong opinion on the side of no, if i had the power i would ban you from your own debate. Dont create a debate if you arent prepared for the extremists on the side opposed to you, simply the fact that people dont believe exactly what u believe doesnt give u the righht to try and slant this debate and ban the people that are supporting the other side. You are the exact example of the people that should not be allowed to lead the christianity movement. You are the person you covers his or her ears and screams blah blah blah to avoid hearing what the other side is saying. Please next time do not give a no answer if you dont want a no answer.
how dare you. You have created a debate then banned everyone with a strong opinion on the side of no, if i had the power i would ban you from your own debate. Dont create a debate if you arent prepared for the extremists on the side opposed to you, simply the fact that people dont believe exactly what u believe doesnt give u the righht to try and slant this debate and ban the people that are supporting the other side. You are the exact example of the people that should not be allowed to lead the christianity movement. You are the person you covers his or her ears and screams blah blah blah to avoid hearing what the other side is saying. Please next time do not give a no answer if you dont want a no answer.
This is a somewhat subjective argument. What you define as "bashing" really defines the whole debate. Also, time and place matter. If you mean in general, than the answer is probably no, because Christianity has some innate inconsistencies and has been responsible for some heinous deeds. If by your question you mean randomly shouting out intentionally provocative points with the sole objective of starting a heated argument, than probably yes.
Oh christjesus, you may ban all you like, but it won't take away that doubt burrowed deep within you, growing every day, stirring about when you are at church or praying, telling you to listen to what you are being told to believe.
Its ok. In Jesus's time a lot of people beat him,punched him and bruised him because of what He believed in. So Christains today are getting stoned,punched,killed,and beated for what they believe in. So if someone does that to me. I think this is what exaclty what Jesus did to pay for all of the worlds sin and died on the cross and rose from the grave the third day. There was a witness of 500 or more people watched when he rose from the grave.
btw I love your profile pic it shows you do not back down. If someone challenges you to a debate or fight your up to the task. You will charge bravely and wont backdown till you are the victor that I like :)
im glad your full of energy srom now let us debate,let us go into batlle that we call a debate and fight for narnia,for skyrim,tamriel,for sovangarde,and most importanly for heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shouldn't free speech and First Amendment rights apply both ways? If christians have the right to bash atheists all the time, why shouldn't atheists also have the right to bash christians? As long as there is no Inquisition happening against atheists or Soviet Russia happening against christians, we should both still keep our First Amendment rights.
Why should one stop bashing Christianity when it is so much fun to bash atheism? If the atheist stopped bashing Christianity then there would be little fun in bashing the already mentally challenged atheist.
When atheist claim to have better morals than Christians, I wonder how they are able to get off their high horse and bash Christians in the first place.
this is the worst answer ive seen so far. what do you mean its so much fun to bash christianity....why dont you worry about your own life and leave christians alone
