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 Should fast food restaurants deny serving obese people? (30)

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Should fast food restaurants deny serving obese people?

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3 points

This is a ridiculous question. No. Denying service to obese people is discrimination and it's a violation of rights. Everyone has a choice, they know what's in fast food, they know it's not good for them, but if they wish to gorge on it anyway, that's their right.

3 points

If I have to pay for your health care, I should be able to control what goes into your body. Otherwise, have at it!

1 point

As long as we have to pay taxes to pay for healthcare, we should make everybody as healthy as possible. Any way we can support that cause should go into effect. I support jwitter's argument.

Maybe restaurants should not deny them service but only give them healthy foods. Maybe, what we can do instead of denying them service is to deny them marijuana so that they don't get the munchies and make matters worse.

2 points

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Because all the obese people I know are pot smokers. Not.

Spoonerism(831) Disputed
2 points

I smoke regularly and I'm 5'8" and 125 lbs. All of my friends who smoke are average in size except for those who drink a lot.

Smoking marijuana doesn't make you fat. It makes you high.

Why the hell not? Would they give a suicidal man a knife or rope just because he wants to buy it? If you know that guy is just going to kill someone (like himself) shouldn't you stop him? So refusing to let you have a tripple cheezeburger with everything and a double side order of frys is the same.

Spoonerism(831) Disputed
1 point

But the suicidal man is trying to instantly kill himself. We can't say the same about the obese person, who's got a sick relationship with food. And the question denies the fact that if fast food restaurants deny them, they can easily buy the same terrible shit in the frozen foods section at the grocery store and microwave it at home.

Side: No
1 point

It is important to understand that denying obese people fast food does not change their eating habits. Losing weight requires a lifestyle change. If they don't eat fast food they eat food someplace else.

Side: weight loss

I had no idea they were that determined :)

Side: weight loss
1 point

No, because everyone has freedom of choice, and that would mean the end of democracy which is already suffering. Hell, obese people are helping the economy by buying so much food.

Side: weight loss
0 points

It's important to first define what we mean by obese because many people use the term differently. Medically, an obese person is simply someone with a high percentage of body fat: 24% and up. It isn't strictly about overall bodyweight or size of the person.

I suppose the question is more normative, though. Fat people, people who just eat too much, are habitual eaters, gluttonous nutritional malcontents, addicted masticators... no, they shouldn't be precluded from being able/allowed to eat at fast food restaurants. But I specifically mean adults.

Adults who can measure the compromise between benefit and negative consequences, who has enough experience to know intellectually and emotionally that what they are doing can and will cause them longterm problems shouldn't be stopped from eating at fast food restaurants. But they also shouldn't have any legal recourse to sue the companies either.

Obese children on the other hand, they shouldn't be allowed to eat fast food. I think that that is patently irresponsible and absurd for either parents or the larger society to allow that to happen.

Side: weight loss
kirstie1126(478) Disputed
3 points

Obesity is not defined by a body fat percentage but by Body Mass Index (BMI).

Below is a site where you can type in your height and weight and find out your BMI, as well as what defines overweight an obesity.

Supporting Evidence: AICR: BMI calculator (www.aicr.org)
Side: weight loss

I gave you an up vote for doing my research for me.

Side: weight loss
-1 points

Obese is anyone fatter than me at any given point in time. Seriously, do my comments require smileys?

Side: weight loss
0 points

I think this should be the same with smokers, and deny them all health care

Side: weight loss
Bradf0rd(1428) Disputed
1 point

I get your point, but it's not the same and I hope people don't think that you're making a valid statement.

Side: weight loss
-4 points
Spoonerism(831) Disputed
1 point

Yes, you are being mean. And no, it's not for their own good. You think embarrassing people who are fat is the way to get them to change? Starting a war of discrimination against those over a certain size?

Rather, why not focus on an HONEST solution, like offering real education about food and providing REAL food to children throughout schools, as a model of how to eat. And making real food more readily availble and cheaper for the average person. And adding "imitation" to the label of all fake food.

Side: weight loss
-4 points
Bradf0rd(1428) Disputed
2 points

If obese people don't have the means by which to support their body-mass, they will lose it.

If still they stay obese, then we should claim this a miracle and not a disease. A normal human on a 2000 calorie diet (which is more than a perfectly healthy person should have) is worth around 200,000 calories (the amount of calories in a human body).

If what you say is correct, you can limit them, and they will magically retain their body mass... I know some obese people weigh somewhere around 300lb, which is double my weight. If they eat less than me and still hold their calorie value of 400,000 we basically have free food right there. When times get rough, eat an obese person who has died of a heart attack or clogged arteries... you could split it between 200 people a day, or you could have 200 days worth of food if it's stored properly.

(Sorry for being so socially unacceptable, I joke)

Side: weight loss

I couldn't have said better myself. You get an up vote.

Side: weight loss
2 points

There is a group of people who cannot help that they are overweight or obese. There is a condition called Prader-Willi where the person never feels full, therefore they are always eating even if their body does not need the calories.

For these people, they cannot help their condition, and should get as much help as they can. But for the majority of overweight and obese people... they did it to themselves by their own choices.

Supporting Evidence: Medline PLus:Prader-Willi Syndrome (www.nlm.nih.gov)
Side: weight loss
0 points

If people can't help themselves from being obese, then it's out moral duty to help them slim down.

Side: weight loss