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Let's all listen to one religious book and base our laws off of that, regardless of any other beliefs that may exist, especially when regarding something that has little to no effect on anyone but those directly involved. That makes sense.
Let's all listen to one religious book and base our laws off of that, regardless of any other beliefs that may exist, especially when regarding something that has little to no effect on anyone but those directly involved. That makes sense.
Lets all listen to one scientific theory and base our laws to teach that the earth is round. That doesn't make sense
Ummm, no. A theory is in no way comparable to an opinion.
For starters theories are justified reasonings, you do not need to justify many opinions. A theory is a rigorously tested idea that explains something in our natural world. Only ideas that are incredibly strong get 'theory' status in sciences, meaning they have been tested by many measures like having many lines of reasoning/doctrines all pointing to the same conclusion.
Your stance seems to be held out of ignorance of your oppositions actual stance. If an idea has to misrepresent their opponents ideas for itself to remain standing then it is weak. In sciences all scrutiny is welcome and encouraged, that is its strength. Religion, not so much...
It is better to have laws passed that can be tested and reasoned on, rather than those that cannot be tested nor are willing to be open to scrutiny.
Theory is not an OPINION scientific theory is by definition:
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation
So you are saying we should pass laws based on the christian doctrine and not for secular reasons. In a country that has is supposed to allow freedom of religion I find this problematic.
You first need to strong arm all the people to your way, or convince them your way is better. Probably easier to strong arm them instead of convince them especially with your tactics. I mean I doubt anyone could convince you another religion is the true one, you have the same issue the other way.
If strong arming others seems too harsh (which it many would say it is) then you need to find secular reasons to make gay marriage illegal. But we both know no professional peer reviewed organizations back your position. Only groups with religious aims support you and their claims seem to fall apart under scrutiny.
Oh, and if you are going to mix old testament and new testament it makes your position look weaker as you do not use other old testament teachings. It is like padding your citations.
So you are saying we should pass laws based on the christian doctrine and not for secular reasons. In a country that has is supposed to allow freedom of religion I find this problematic.
You first need to strong arm all the people to your way, or convince them your way is better. Probably easier to strong arm them instead of convince them especially with your tactics. I mean I doubt anyone could convince you another religion is the true one, you have the same issue the other way.
If strong arming others seems too harsh (which it many would say it is) then you need to find secular reasons to make gay marriage illegal. But we both know no professional peer reviewed organizations back your position. Only groups with religious aims support you and their claims seem to fall apart under scrutiny.
Oh, and if you are going to mix old testament and new testament it makes your position look weaker as you do not use other old testament teachings. It is like padding your citations.
My point is homosexuality is condemned from Genesis to Revelation
I know that. But you are saying it should be illegal because of that.
Yes it should like adultery,pornography,abortion, and a lot of other evils that our nation has tolerated for so long. Christians don't hate gays we just think they shouldn't be married.
How does anyone believing that it's Wicked effect God?
... I understand that your god is the Christian God, but I was referring to the fact that there's no proof of your god or any god really. I wouldn't be able to pick one if someone forced me to with all the dang choices. I mean, have you ever researched religions? There's a ridonkulous amount.
How does anyone believing that it's Wicked effect God?
God believes it's wicked
... I understand that your god is the Christian God, but I was referring to the fact that there's no proof of your god or any god really. I wouldn't be able to pick one if someone forced me to with all the dang choices. I mean, have you ever researched religions? There's a ridonkulous amount.
So what if God does believe it's wicked? That still doesn't tell me how it effects God. If god has a problem with it then that's God's personal problem That doesn't mean his followers have a right to tell other people that their love is wrong, or that they're going to hell.
The Christian god does? Well by golly then, I guess I need to convert right now.
So what if God does believe it's wicked? That still doesn't tell me how it effects God. If god has a problem with it then that's God's personal problem That doesn't mean his followers have a right to tell other people that their love is wrong, or that they're going to hell.
The Christian god does? Well by golly then, I guess I need to convert right now.
My personal religious or spiritual beliefs are not relevant to this debate. What is relevant to this debate is whether it is right to force antigay religious beliefs on gay when they are not hurting anyone. The separation of religion and government is essential to a free society. If you attempt to create a theocracy, civil rights will be violated, and hostilities created between the religions. You don't have to support gay marriage, but gays dont have to live by your beliefs if they dont want to. Liberty, truth, and justice for all, remember?
Right cuz God does SO MUCH for us!! (Sarcasm btw) Where is God when babies are born with defects? Where is God when His followers are getting tortured? where is God when the world is its own hell?
It is up to the couple if they want to get married, not you. Just because some ridiculous Ancient book has a load of messed up homophobic verses isn't a good enough reason against Gay marriage.
It is up to the couple if they want to get married, not you. Just because some ridiculous Ancient book has a load of messed up homophobic verses isn't a good enough reason against Gay marriage.
What's wrong with a guy being happy with another guy or a girl with another girl? Men and women can be happy together so homosexuals can be too. Yes, the Bible says that it's wrong. However, Jesus loved everyone and the Bible also says not to cut our hair and not to get tattoos. In the US, saying that a guy/girl has to go to another state to get married to the guy/girl that they love is saying something about the prejudice that we pride ourselves on not having. So, no, gay marriage should not be illegal.
