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Yes. They should be first baked in ovens, then subjected to public ridicule by means of being forced to wear ridiculous frosting decorations, then housed in structures of gingerbread man flesh, surrounded and haunted by the silent screams and tormented souls of the gingerbread men that might have been, but were spared life, before finally being eaten alive by children. One can only hope there is a gingerbread man hell waiting for them on the other side.
That's kinda offensive. I happen to be a ginger. It also happens to be that I am the ONLY ginger in my school. And I also happen to be called 'soul-stealer' and 'Devil' or even 'demon'. (I actually don't mind being called 'Lord of The Dead) Somethings I don't mind being called(Such as 'Lord of The Dead, 'Red-Reaper', 'Grim Reaper, 'Ghostridder' and a few other things), others are truly offensive. I am very well known at my school. Everyone in my class is scared of me. So the name-calling died down. A few ppl still do it and I just take their arm and turn it as much as I can without breaking it.
1 - What you mean to say is that you FEEL offended.
No statement is ever intrinsically offensive. If that were the case EVERYONE would feel offended by such statements.
Actions and attitudes/postures can be offensive as opposed to defensive, but this is in the context of conflict where one is either attacking/advancing or defending.
The point here is perfectly illustrated in your statement, "So the name-calling died down. A few ppl still do it and I just take their arm and turn it as much as I can without breaking it."
People say things that offend you, and you respond by taking offensive action.
2 - You indicate that you are offended by the characterization of gingers as soulless" but you neither assert that you have a soul, nor that you have a clear position as to why you are offended by being called soulless.
First, I would assume one has such knowledge to know that I too have a soul. It's is offensive towards me to be called soulless because I also want to be treated like everyone else that doesn't have red hair.
Second, do you have a brain? Weird question is it not? Would you not assume that I would think you have a brain, as I thought one would be smart enough to think I have a soul.
Third, I do not care about my incorrect grammar. Do not have a care in the world. One, indeed, can be offended. While on can be offensive. I would assume one would be smart enough to know what I meant. Next time I will spell it out for ya. Happy?
Fourth, I take action for being offended indeed. I would twist their arm,like I said, or I would say something offensive towards them. I would make sure to throw a roast in there too. I take doing this as DEFENSE. Though you wouldn't need to know that, now would you Miss Know-It-All?
There is no reason for you to feel bad about any of this. Judging by the fact that you say you react violently to some of this, I think I am actually more on your side than you are.
First, I would assume one has such knowledge to know that I too have a soul. It's is offensive towards me to be called soulless because I also want to be treated like everyone else that doesn't have red hair.
What do you mean by a soul? Can you articulate it clearly? (Most people are even less able to articulate the definition and qualities of soul than those of god.)
I mean seriously, what empirical evidence do you have that there is any such thing? I know of no such evidence.
Why?
Because the soul is a figment of the cultural imagination. It is at best a metaphor for self-aware identity, and a sign of our fear of death and our yearning for immortality of some sort.
It is pretty obvious to me that the "soulless ginger" jokes are (marginally) funny because they boil down to saying gingers don't show evidence of having something that nobody else shows evidence of having, yet people pretend exists.
The joke is less about gingers than about souls and the ridiculousness of believing in them.
Second, do you have a brain? Weird question is it not? Would you not assume that I would think you have a brain, as I thought one would be smart enough to think I have a soul.
There is empirical evidence for the existence of brains, mine and yours included, but
none for the existence of souls, even in people who are not gingers.
Third, I do not care about my incorrect grammar. Do not have a care in the world. One, indeed, can be offended. While on can be offensive.
My comments were not about grammar, but about usage and diction, and more to the point, about the fact that an individual's feelings do not imbue anything, including a statement, with any intrinsic quality, especially not any obligation on the part of others.
That point was the core of my post.
There are hordes of people who use the term offensive to misrepresent their feelings about some term or statement as being universal or morally authoritative. They use offensive in an attempt to hide the reality that people feel differently about things, and nobody's feelings count more than anybody else's.
Some people like certain words, statements, or jokes , and think they are apt or funny.
Other people dislike the same words, statements, or jokes, and feel offended by them.
By characterizing the jokes as offensive, people who feel offended are attempting to discount the feelings and views of people with whom they disagree, and far too often to justify banning statements they dislike.
So just because I'm a ginger people get to make jokes about me(gingers in particular anyways) Why is it okay to make jokes about gingers not having souls, but no one else's hair color. Same with blond jokes. Why is red a bad hair color to have? What does it mean? That's what I want to know. What makes it okay to torment gingers for their blessed hair color? As I have already said, I would assume one to have such knowledge that I have a soul as I would have k pledge to know you too have a soul.
Just because I'm a ginger doesn't mean I do not have a soul. I do have a soul and my hair color should not and does not decide weather that is true or not. It's like me saying that because you are a male you do not posses a heart. As everyone knows we can not live without a heart, but just imagine that they call you an alien or a demon is the devil, Satan's Spawn, Evil, ugly. Just imagine all the insults if people believed that. Would You not feel bad? Would you feel worthless? What would you feel?
All I am saying is that just because I am a ginger doesn't mean anything. I am like the rest of you all. Just with something unique about myself. I am like everyone else. I am just the same. I can do every thing you all can. I have a soul.
It is unfair for gingers to be judged like that. Just imagine you were a ginger and someone said you were soulless. How would you feel? Would that make you angry? Sad? Left out? Just imagine you were a ginger. imagine that you were blamed for things you didn't do but they still blamed you because you are a ginger. Imagine that everyone thought you were a which or the devil. Imagine that no one trusted you because you are a ginger. Imagine all of it. I get this everyday. I am told I'm the devil. I get called bad things. I don't get trusted. I don't get to do certain things. I'm underestimated. I am blamed for tons of random things. I get it all bad.
Not a lot of people get it. Barely anyone thinks about what they are going to say. Very rarely does someone trust a ginger. Take the time to imagine all this happening to you on a daily basis. Imagine it happened everyday. Ikmaginw it all.
Now tell me how you would feel if someone on this very website said such things to you. How would you react.
Not a lot of people put themselves in this situation before they cause it. Very rarely will someone rush to your aid if you are hurt. All you really have is your self your friends and your parents. I have very little friends. I have 3 friends. That's it.
Put yourself in this situation and tell me would you not feel sad. Would You not worry about how many people will mock You? I worry about everyone say I these things.
I do feel sad for you, but that is largely because you seem to aim at taking offense rather than developing a sense of humor that could protect you from feeling offended.
Soul-The spiritual or immaterial part of a human.
You realize, I hope, that this does not actually provide enough information to tell me anything about what you think it is.
For somebody who is obviously truly hurt by being joked with about not having a soul, you seem to have difficulty providing details about the thing.
Put aside your knee-jerk emotions, and just think about what the "soulless ginger" and "Satan's Spawn" silliness really mean. These are jokes based on fiction and unexamined superstition.
Regarding calling you ugly, that is blatantly and needlessly unkind. That likely has nothing to do with how people generally feel about gingers in my experience. Lots of us find redheads extraordinarily attractive, exotic, etc.. (My wife swears that red hair is even sexier than playing hockey or playing bass guitar. Even so, she makes ginger jokes sometimes.)
Imagine that everyone thought you were a which or the devil. Imagine that no one trusted you because you are a ginger.
Regarding calling you a witch or the devil, they don't exist.
Regarding calling you evil, or not trusting you, you may want to look to your own actions and responses. You previously mentioned that you twist people's arms for saying things you dislike. That indicates that what you are dealing with is at least partly based in your own actions and responses.
Based on the content of your previous posts, I gather that you are still in high school/secondary school. (If I am incorrect, please forgive me.) Don't confuse how things are in high school with how things are in the real world.
In addition to being an ex-teenager, I am also an ex-teacher. Trust me, EVERYBODY is teased and tortured in high school. It is just that they are all picked on for different reasons. So they tease you for being a ginger, whereas others are teased for being smart or stupid or tall or short or...etc., ad infinitum.
All I am saying is that just because I am a ginger doesn't mean anything. I am like the rest of you all. Just with something unique about myself. I am like everyone else. I am just the same. I can do every thing you all can. I have a soul.
I agree with all of this statement but the last sentence, because I see no reason to believe the soul exists.
Relax, and ignore the BS, or laugh.
It is unfair for gingers to be judged like that.
Do you really think anybody actually believes that gingers are different?
NOBODY actually cares. They are just jokes. The fact that you choose to take them personally and react violently are likely to have a lot to do with people continuing the joke.
Lemme get something straight. It doesn't offend me. It angers and saddens me.
I get some things as to be a joke, but other things have a meaning to them. I laugh off most things and then teach the person who said such a thing a lesson. I am feared in my class because of my violent actions, but also the most bullies person in my class. I k ow somethings are just jokes, but they are bad jokes to tell. Just like blond jokes.
A blind man was going to tell a blonde joke at this bar but three blonde, butch, women walked up to him and told him that they were blonde and capable of kicking his ass. They then asked him if he still wanted to proceed and tell his joke and he said, "Not if I'll have to explain it 3 times." ;)
A blind man was going to tell a blonde joke at this bar but three blonde, butch, women walked up to him and told him that they were blonde and capable of kicking his ass. They then asked him if he still wanted to proceed and tell his joke and he said, "Not if I'll have to explain it 3 times." ;)
1) I am blond. (Well, I used to be.)
2) I don't think that joke is funny.
3) I don't understand why he had to explain it three times.
Couldn't he have explained it to one of them, had her explain it to the second one, and then had the second blonde explain it to the third one? ;)
ok, since you are blonde and you didn't get the joke, I will try to explain (maybe even prove by example) why he couldn't just explain it once. Ready?
He could not explain it to one and have that one explain it to another and so on because the premise of the joke is that they are too dumb for that strategy to work. In other words, he could not explain it because that is not how blonde jokes work.
Have you ever seen a slasher movie where there's a psycho going around killing a group of people in a deserted place one at a time? The group always decide to split up and they get whacked. If they were to chose to stay together (since there is strength in numbers) there wouldn't be a movie.
Anyway, a blonde picks up a mirror and says, "Hmmm, she looks familiar." Her blonde friend takes the mirror away and says, "That's me, silly." So..., how long did it take (after you changed your hair color) to recognize yourself ;)
I am worried about you. I want you to have a happy life.
1) The first, and possibly most necessary such step to a happy life is to accept that there is nothing we can do to change the fact that some people are unkind, sometimes intentionally, and sometimes not. The world is full of assholes of various types and flavors.
Unfortunately this does not change after high school, despite the fact that we hope people grow, and learn empathy, and come to understand the staggering power of smiles and small kindnesses.
2) The second step is to realize that only the listeners (you, in this case) have power over whether unkind or thoughtless words are able to hurt them. Offense is not given; it is taken.
What people say about you and to you indicate nothing about you, but a lot about them. How you think about what they say is what gives it the power to hurt you or not.
When my students would come to me and say, "So-and-so called me a ," my response was always, "Is it true?" That is the important question.
Consider, "if somebody said, "2+2=3" you would not get angry, you would simply brush it off as he or she is a dumbass, or possibly trying to piss you off. It is no different if they say something stupid or untrue about you.
This is where a sense of irony, and even better, a sense of humor are so important to YOUR mental and emotional health. (My earlier posts on this should model how to do this.) You wrote, I k ow somethings are just jokes, but they are bad jokes to tell. Just like blond jokes.
To misquote Oscar Wilde, "There is no such thing as a moral joke or an immoral joke. Jokes are funny or not. That is all." A joke that is funny justifies itself. A joke that is not funny embarrasses the teller, just like saying, "2+2=3."
The minute you laugh at a funny joke at your expense, or dismiss an unfunny one as the product of an idiot, and then ignore it, you nullify the joke's power to hurt you.
3) The third step is to identify what your problem really is.
- Ginger jokes are NOT your problem.
- People saying unkind things is NOT your problem.
- Your problem is that you are lonely, and want to be liked by these people.
The things you said you do in response to all of the name-calling will only continue to make your problem worse.
Hurting people who say things you don't like does not demonstrate that other people are horrible, only that you have an underdeveloped sense of humor, and may be a horrible person yourself. This makes it unlikely any of these people will like you or be kind to you.
Hurting others also makes you a preferred target for unkindness.
You wrote, I am feared in my class because of my violent actions, but also the most bullies.* (I assume you mean "bullied") I guarantee that the others in your class would identify you as the main bully, and would probably say they crack jokes at your expense in retaliation to your violence.
It is hard to say which of those will isolate you more, but both lead to a very lonely and unhappy life.
I do not believe that there is any such thing as a soul. However, if the soul does exist, you have to be kind and forgiving if you want people to see it in you.
Take care of yourself, and laugh more, especially at your own expense.
I would like to mention that I am the funniest person anyone could know, if they cared to get to know me. My jokes are very often laughed at within the few people who listen to my jokes.
Agreeing with the fact that I am often bullied and respond as being a bully, I will say that my violent actions do seem to make the name calling and such to stop for a day or two by that particular person.
As there are things I do not like being called, there are also things that I do not mind being called, but I indeed take action for being called that name. I also take action for ginger jokes that are not rude and do not hurt me, but I do it for the more sensitive gingers out theer(taking my little bro for example, who is VERY sensitive).
Things you say, I do get, and today I have made 2 more friends. Once people get to know me and why I do certain things, they apologize for being so rude. The 2 people were aghast to hear that my father dies when I was about 6 and they started to say things along the lines of their grandpa's died, their aunt has cancer and so fourth. We then got to know eachother.
(Let me assure you, this is NOT an offensive blond joke)
3 blonds were walking through a dessert and fortunately, they came across a genie lamp. All three rubbed the lamp and a genie came out. He said," because there are 3 if you and 3 wishes, I will grant you each 1 wish." He pointed to the first blond and asks what she would like. She responds," I'm tired of people doing things for me ALL the time. I wish I was 3 times as smart as I am." She turned into a brunette.
The genie asks what the 2nd blond wants and she replies, "I'm also tired of people doing things for me. I work I was 4 times as smart as I was." She turned into a ginger. The last blond jumps up and dats," I love people doing things for me. I wish I was 3 times dummer than I was." And she turns into a man.
NOT funny enough? Ok, I got a ton more jokes up my dleve.
Three girls were sitting at a bar. One girl had brunette hair, one had red hair, and the other had green hair. A man walks up to them and asks them if they died their hair, eyeing the green haired girl. The brunette runs her hand through her hair and replies," It's all natural." The red head takes her hand, runs it through her hair and says," It's all natural." The green haired girl sneezes on her hand, runs it through her slimy hair and says, "it's all natural."