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Yes No, guns don't kill people.
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Should guns be banned in America?

Yes

Side Score: 583
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No, guns don't kill people.

Side Score: 1162
11 points

I don't agree entirely with this, but automatic and semi automatic weapons should be banned. Gun don't kill people, people do is a valid statement, but a homicidal person with a semi automatic weapon can kill a whole lot more people before being controlled than if they had a knife. As for non-automatic weapons, they should require a license.

Side: Yes
geneF(11) Disputed
3 points

The beliefm that automatic weapons should be banned holds no more water than any other arguement. A gun is a gun. the mmount of fire it produces makes no difference, and in the hands of an ordinary law abiding citizen a tank, granade launcher or nuclear missile does not pose a threat to anyone becuase he has no intention of using it. In the hands of a criminal, an ink pen can be rammed into an eye and used to kill someone.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

A gun is a gun.

Baloney.

If a person goes crazy and kills 10 people vs killing 100 people - ask the other 90 if the lethality of the weapon makes a difference.

in the hands of an ordinary law abiding citizen a tank, granade launcher or nuclear missile does not pose a threat

Every criminal was an ordinary law abiding citizen until the moment they weren't. There is also the risk of accident, theft, etc.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

A gun is a gun. the mmount of fire it produces makes no difference

Oh, OK then. So a cigarette lighter is the same as a flamethrower?

I just don't understand how an entire nation of people became so thoroughly stupid.

Side: Yes
Stilrelavent(17) Disputed
1 point

This is the reason American is the way it is, the people that stubbornly believe one point without the chance of another existing. Yes it makes a difference since guns aren’t used for decoration if someone buys a gun, i don’t no about you, but that means they intend to use it for various reasons. Owning a gun itself is dangerous, and require certain qualifications. And while most use guns to hunt. Their are a few that use guns for self defense. And some guns get into the the hands of people with bad intentions, since people kill, not guns. Are we supposed to get rid of the people. No, that’s simply impossible. Now here brings to my point, even if guns get into the hands of law abiding citizens who don’t intend to use them, then what is the point of own a gun? A lethal weapon with just one motion you can seriously cause some harm. I don’t think people really grasp that idea…

Side: Yes
tokehs83(1) Disputed
2 points

i dont agree, it doesnt matter what kind of gun it was. IF Auto GUNS DIDNT EXIST... it STILL woulda heppened..... IF NO GUNS EXISTED AT ALL..... it still woulda happened...... same amount of people... same outcome... wich is people dead.. i DO think they would of still killed 20 kids and 6 teachers if that was his intention...... never said anything about slapping either... i said that he would train and train... idc if it took 10 years..... he wouldve made it a POINT... to make what he wanted to happen... happen.. he would plan it to the T... and make sure that they died.. if thats what he wanted... one way or another.. without a gun or knife... if thats what he wanted... thats how crazy people work. i dont agree..... if those people ( crazy people ) had a sledgehammer ( a gun) i DO NOT think that they would drive the coffin ( kill people) in the ground faster than if they had a regular hammer... ( their own fists and feet ) ...... Because..... Those people who are crazy enough to do that, are also crazy enough to make SURE it happens.. and put plan, and effort into it... they would learn martial arts, (the kind that can kill people in the blink of an eye ( the same speed as a bullet))... our human body is just as dangerous as a gun... and those crazy ass people would put so much training and planning into their actions that the same result would happen. ( my opinion ( as this is a debate)).

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
WhatISay(3) Disputed
2 points

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. No matter how hard a martial artist trained, I don't see how they could be able to kill people as fast as a semi-automatic weapon. Yes, people would have still been killed, but that many? I don't think so. When I say yes to the question "Should guns be banned in America?", I don't believe that hunting guns would need to be banned. Yes, they can kill people, but not as fast as a semi-automatic, giving more time for the criminal to be stopped. I do not see the need for semi-automatic weapons to be purchased by anyone. When you go hunting, I doubt you assault the deer. I do agree with you on what you said about how crazy people will go far to make their point, but I still believe that semi-automatics should be banned. That is just my opinion.

Side: Yes
2 points

Guns don't kill people, but people uses guns to kill people.

Side: Yes
erin_r(39) Disputed
1 point

People use knives to kill people - should we ban knives?

What happens if you ban guns is that people who don't follow the law are just going to keep their guns and people who follow the law can't protect themselves, so the criminals would find it easier to kill them.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
dropbomb87(9) Disputed
1 point

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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
wowbob396(9) Disputed
0 points

Semi-automatic guns shoot single rounds.... So we can't have pistols but are allowed to only used 12 gauge pump shotguns or hunting rifles?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
0 points

Yes, i believe this to be a valid argument. I personally support you argument completely; especially the license.

To those who say that guns should be banned completely,

There are those uses of guns which should be allowed, for example, hunting animals?

Side: Yes
3 points

yes because some people in America cannot be trusted with one i understand that if its for your protection then yeah go ahead and have one but I'm just saying most crimes happen with handguns.

Side: yes
3 points

The argument "no, guns don't kill people" is ridiculous. Everyone has seen a shooting movie where someone ends up dead via gun. The reason people go to war with guns is because they kill people.

Side: Yes
2 points

yea, but only if you'd kill someone with it.

it's a good decoration item!

Side: Yes
2 points

i do not think all guns should be banned, but certainly some. if your a hunter and you want to kill a deer, then go and by a rifle, but do you really need an AK-47 to kill a little deer? and if your buying a gun for protection, then that is just stupid. there are plenty of things you can do before resorting to a gun for protection. get a guard dog, buy an alarm, or move near a place with a lower crime rate. you could also buy a taser or pepper spray.

Side: yes
Houston(187) Disputed
3 points

First, AK-47s have to be semi automatic to be available for civilian use. Second, dogs are good for protection, but mainly intimidation. (I have a German Shepherd and a Great Pyrenees so I'm NOT saying dogs aren't good for keeping your house safe). A bullet in a dog will stop any breed of dog you have, even if it is a 100lb+ dog. Also, guns are great for protection. If you have a shotgun, a robber that just hears you when you cock it will think "#@$%!" And if it comes to it, a homeowner will normally pull the trigger in self defense (be sure to get him good in the first shot because only the first shot counts as self defense, all the other shots are assault =D). Pepper spray and tasers are do not have the stopping power to save you from a criminal. If s/he is flailing on the ground he can still pull the trigger, and might hit you. Lastly, what has America come to when you have to move your home because of crime rates? If you want to save money, buy a gun and any other form of defense you want.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ungernick28(21) Disputed
1 point

but most burgerlery's happen when you arn't even home, in which case the gun is mostly likly to be stolen itself. now a criminal has a gun in his hands

Side: yes
smithlogan66(2) Disputed
1 point

Yes, that is certainly going to stop you from a gunman. "Dear God.... Please Save This Soul"

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Bornkountry(7) Disputed
1 point

People like you are blind when your waiting on your alarm company to alert the police and the three guys who just broke into your home are raping your wife and hurting you family and they just killed your "guard dog" what are you going to be doing? Because I tell you what your not doing "is protecting your family"

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

The second amendment wasnt for people to start killing each other, it was for the creation of the militia. Guns in America, are supposed to keep this world a better place, however, it doesnt do that at all, it only allows criminals to commit crimes. It definetly doesnt protect anyone from anything, it only harms the people of this country. And yea, I get that many people save themselves from the criminals that break into their house or try to rape them, but half the time thats not the case.

Side: yes
travisvadon(6) Disputed
5 points

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I find is odd all the responses, so far in the debate, have not touched on the main reason, in my mind, why I would never let the law makers take the 2nd amendment away. It's not for the protection of home invaders, it's not for hunting and it's not even for attacks on the street, it's for protection from the powers to be. I believe the MAIN reason we should all support the 2nd amendment is to keep the power of gun ownership in our hands and not in the hands of the government. If all American citizens loose their right to gun ownership the only ones left with the guns are the police.... and this is a scary thought.

Side: law
khaOs(13) Disputed
5 points

"...it only allows criminals to commit crimes..."

REALLY?! That's interesting. Riddle me this: How would one STOP a criminal with a gun who is committing a crime?

"...It definetly doesnt protect anyone from anything, it only harms the people of this country."

You're joking, right? You don't think peoples lives have been saved because they carry a firearm? Why do you think people choose to carry guns in the first place? Because they want to shoot someone?

Let's look at BIG PICTURE, for a moment: GUNS protected the LIFE and LIBERTY and FREEDOM that you now take for granted in this country.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
uoknow(21) Disputed
0 points

Riddle me this: How would one STOP a criminal with a gun who is committing a crime?

this is why we ban guns isn't it?

Side: yes
dutchrock Disputed
0 points

even if guns were banned they would still be sold illegally but the hundreds of children dieing because they think its a toy wouldn't be here anymore if the police and the military kept their guns the criminals with the illegal guns would have a much lower gun supply. I am not American and in Europe you need a license to buy guns which already by far lowers the crime rate. America or the world with out guns would be a better place with less shootings, by far. Guns only protect from other guns and create firefights the military and police may need them but for what does anyone else need them? the police can protect you with no guns you aren't a threat to criminals and they wont have guns.

I rest my case

Side: yes
3 points

I agree exactly what I would say

Some people can be idiots with guns

Side: yes
Bender226(6) Disputed
2 points

The second amendment was created for the following reasons: deterring undemocratic government, repelling invasion, suppressing insurrection, facilitating the natural right of self defense, participating in law enforcement and slave control in slave states (no longer applicable). So the second amendment is in place so people can kill other people under certain circumstances, that is of course what guns are for in the first place. Theres good reason why 12 year olds can't vote, or for that matter own guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Bohemian(3860) Disputed
2 points

Regardless of whether or not you think guns cause more harm than good, this is not the issue. We have a constitutional guarantee, a right to bear arms. We cannot simply disregard the constitution when we don't like what it says.

The right to bear arms, is a check on the government. It was set in place to ensure that if the government oversteps it's boundaries that the collective will of the people, could if necessary revolt and start from scratch. It is meant as a last resort against tyranny.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
amber55044(1) Disputed
2 points

Do you really think that if the government were to try and take over, that your 22 in your gunsafe is going to hold off trained soldiers with automatic rifles? In today's society there is no reason for guns. The right to bear arms was fine when everyone had the same revolver or single-round chambered rifle, but things have changed a bit since then.

Side: Get rid of guns entirely
kmn1297(32) Disputed
2 points

ha ha ha ha ha Thanks for the great laugh. Our second amendment was given to us so we THE PEOPLE can uprise against the government if needed. the criminals will always be there to break the law and will find guns illegally. If you have your home broken into and you have no gun then you better hope you can run faster then the bullet they will have following you.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Stilrelavent(17) Disputed
1 point

Well clearly it hasn’t lived for it’s purpose. So now we should be wary of guns you people are contradicting yourselves are we supposed to believe the gun is harmful or the person? In my opinion I think it’s both I guess people don’t really think about it that way.

Side: Yes
Urstupid1(1) Disputed
1 point

None of you understand, stopping the selling of guns won't stop criminals. It will allow them to get away with MORE. You people fail to realize if someone is intent on committing a crime they will most likely GET A GUN, stopping the selling of guns will just restrict civilians from protecting themselves. If someone wants a gun for a bad purpose... they MOST likely WILL get one Illegally and it probably wont be as hard as most of you seem to think.

Gun ban = No civilians can protect themselves using a firearm = Criminals can illegally purchase guns, like tons already do. You people are stupid

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

I agree with Urstupid , no matter what . . Stupid people will still buy guns illegally . They will find a way , and im not giving up my guns for nobody . i bought and payed for them the legal way . and if someone came in my home and tryed to rob or kill me I WILL have a gun to protect myself.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Stilrelavent(17) Disputed
1 point

A person with bad intentions is bad, for example a man that say he wants to shoot up a school whether he really will or won’t is pretty dangerous, but then if that man has access to rifles, grenades, other firearms then you should really be afraid. The idea that both the person and the gun is dangerous is not really explored. Also that example was from the parkland school shooting. I believe there was 17 deaths.

Supporting Evidence: What pretending to be crazy looks like (m.youtube.com)
Side: Yes
way875(1) Disputed
1 point

Read the CONSTITUTION, or founders knew you long before you were born.

They protect you from yourself.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

That is utterly false. Guns in people's homes have prevented them from being victims of violent attacks in countless thousands of cases, and your militia you refer to was composed of regular urban men, not military men and they were armed. Seriously, you want everyone to believe that the right to keep a gun by your bed does not help keep a person able to grab it in the face of a violent attack and fight back? Do you really believe that the "police" would ever be able to respond quick enough if they could even be called? Or do the lives of people who dont have homes with alarms and steel doors matter? Tell you what, the day you are faced with a violent attack and get to experience this first hand, we'll see what you have to say then!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Bornkountry(7) Disputed
1 point

What about the other half? Would you want your family in that half? Think about that.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
dammonoit(1) Disputed
1 point

The factual basis of your argument is correct but only in the absolute manner, it's a lot more than this. moreover, your argument was way too generic to begin with.

When cocaine from colombia and mexico even shaked the reagon administration, do you think if there wasn't any 2nd amendment it would've stopped americans from getting their hands on automatic or any fire-arm for that matter(from south-america) especially in the south?

No,right? because money wasn't the issue for southerners knowing that even their culture supports that.

people in this debate are asking wrong question because this is more of a pschological and cultural thing and it takes time to go towards progressive or regressive path.

Guns are built-in american culture especially in the south and you just can't take that away from them no matter what.

i could've explained you the importance of 2nd Amendment but it's pretty explained in the constitution(modern day bible for american's) but i thought it'd be better if present the psychological aspect of the issue.

do u think opium problem in Pakistan and inparts of Afghanistan is because of the fact the people consuming it are poor,low-life and illiterate?..no,right?

that's my point

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Yes of course!!Guns might hurt people or even kill people!The point is:u cannot control the ones actually have guns!They will hurt people when they want!!They will use their guns!!If u don't ban it,what is the use of police??They trained to be strong and catch the thieves...Now,all Americans got guns..Even police cannot stop them from stealing..(because they got guns either)...So how can we let the Americans hurt people by using guns again and again?

Side: yes
wowbob396(9) Disputed
1 point

This is a very flawed point of view. For one, guns are meant for self defense and to fight wars. Even if we did ban guns people will still get them, how do you think people get weed? Keeping guns legal would keep the black market activity down and with people without guns it would be so easy to rob someone's house. Besides you can't carry a cop around with you now can you?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

everybody is talking about how the government is going to take over, and guns will be the only way to protect ourselves. it sounds like some bad movie premise. how has the government taken over exactly, and what is so bad if it did? i mean isn't a nation supposed to be run by a government? if we were under the control of a tyrant, then i could understand, but we live in a democracy. we choose our leaders, and can impeach them if we do not like them. it is not a perfect system i know, but it ensures that no person can take control of our country. even if somebody did, then do you really think a gun is going to be you saving grace? if there was a so called tyrant, then he probably has taken over the militia, and do you think that you would win against a trained solider who probably has better weapons.

Side: yes
Houston(187) Disputed
1 point

We are not a democracy, we are a republic. In case of a military coup', or a bad president somehow holding on to power, we need guns.

if there was a so called tyrant, then he probably has taken over the militia, and do you think that you would win against a trained solider who probably has better weapons.

The US Armed Forces has 1.5 million personnel. The population is about 350 million. Currently 21.6% of Americans own a firearm. Thats 1.5 million v.s. 60 million. And we have all economic powers on our side. Its hands down, BP and other gas stations have the gas the military needs, and we also have the food they need. We might even be one of the few countries left who's citizens could defeat the military. Also, I just realized this, but in the event of WWIII, we could have 60+ million soldiers. Along with the 44% of the world's military budget, we could easily conquer the world.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_of_Americans_own_guns

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
geneF(11) Disputed
-1 points

First of all if you dont think we ae run by tyrants, you dont watch the news. Second off, when was the last time we had a leader who inflicted terrible damage on the country, as Obama has, and gotten them impeached? Your arguement is entirely false, and on top of it, I am not worried about using guns to stop some government filled with corrupt leaders. I enjoy target shooting, I enjoy owning antique guns, and I fel a hell of a lot safer knowing that if I am attacked, I will not be empty handed and helpless. End of story.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

And Virginia Tech was not an "incident," it was a massacre. If all the students had also had guns then there is no way that asshole could have killed as many innocent people as he did. My condolensces to the families of the victims.

If all the students also had guns, there'd be massacres on a regular basis.

Guns don't kill people, people do, but people with plastic butter knives kill far fewer people than people with guns.

Side: yes
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

If someone believes that students with guns would lead to regular massacres, then they obviously have one terrible school system or are afraid of some rotten kids. Aside from that lame arguement, no one is suggesting arming students, we have long suggested that instructors and officials in schools who want to be armed should be, unless of course you are going to argue that principals will go on shooting rampages. Ever hear of that?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

gun's are baaaaaad crack. they should so be banned, too many young people can access them too easily! BAN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: yes
2 points

both guns and knives kill people, but guns are way more effective at doing so, that's why we send soilders over seas with guns and not knives, and that is why guns should be banned because they are too effective as weapons

Side: yes
Houston(187) Disputed
2 points

Guns being effective is a good thing. If I was a 40 year old man with a wife and kid, and someone barged into my house trying to rob/harm us, I would shoot him. Also, guns being effective is great for hunting, I've seen people try to hunt with bows, it's insanely hard.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
geneF(11) Disputed
0 points

You are right on the money. first we banned drugs, and that lead to a drug free country. Then we forbade drunk driving and that put an end to drunk driving accidents. If we just had the sense to ban murder and rape, robbery, carjacking, along with guns........hey wait a minute....

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

all guns are used for is killing, they are weapons. that is why we should outlaw them, because all they are made to do is kill. sure you can kill with other things, but most homicide weapons are guns.

Side: yes
2 points

guns are made to kill, if not then can you tell me how they can be used without shooting at somthing?

Side: yes
2 points

Guns should be banned because although most of the time they don't do anybody real harm the police pose a threat and if they miss they could hit anyone.

Surely, even if somebody has robbed a sweet shop or something similar to that they should not be shot. That is a unnecessary.

Side: People don't deserve to be shot
vulcan9697(6) Disputed
2 points

lets say a cop pulls someone over with a trunk full of dope and they have an illegally bought gun. then what? ask him to stop? no police need guns to keep the piece.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

What I do not understand is why the winning argument for this is 'no, guns don't kill people', when clearly they are a weapon used for harming or killing. There is no way a sane person can honestly say guns are good and the fact they exist is a great way to improve our planet!'

Guns are bad, they kill. However I realise that if there were a serious offence and someone attacked the police with a gun things could turn bad quickly. Which is why I have tagged this as 'Keep the Guns, Change the System'. Perhaps they should change the law and copy the English where the police have guns in serious conditions but usually they leave them alone.

Any arguments?

Any arguments?

Side: yes
2 points

Every year 30,000 people die of gun shots in America, and still there are many states that don’t keep guns illegal. There are people who are afraid to get shot when they travel there; this is a sad fact. I argue that guns should be illegal for many reasons. First of all, guns give a better chance for criminals to commit crimes; knowing that with knives they don’t stand a chance. Second, there is a greater percentage, by data, that people are more harmed with guns rather than protected. Gunshot incidents in school make it all the more clearer that kids can unintentionally shoot. Finally, if guns are illegal than it will be harder to get buy a gun and therefore less people will be murdered.

Side: Yes
geneF(11) Disputed
2 points

Sure, if guns were banned it would be hard to get them, kind of like it is hard to get a joint, hard to get cocaine, hard to get crack......bull! There are two things that make a gun dangerous, a stupid person or an evil one. The rest of us own guns, work and live around people who dont know we have them and we do just fine. For all you know you've been around fifty people today who had a piece on them and you are alive right now because non of them were criminals. One criminal, and gun or not, you'd be in deep doo doo.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
demonkiba72(2) Disputed
1 point

You want to know why it's so easy to get drugs? Because people get addicted and need the high, and there is good business behind it, not to mention the ingredients for weed and cocaine grow in the ground, so there is an unlimited supply. I completely agree that guns are dangerous in the hands of an evil or stupid person, but there are also countless accounts of accidental shootings. Point being, guns are meant to hurt and harm, regardless of who owns them and for what reason. I understand that banning guns will not stop criminals from accessing them, but it will surely drop the crime rate and make it much harder to get a gun. Imagine trying to fend off someone who is pointing a gun at you rather than a knife, which situation do you think you'd have a better chance of surviving?

Side: Yes
nialllover77(1) Disputed
1 point

Yes but if the principles or any of the teachers of school shootings that have happened over the years the principles/teachers would have been able to shoot the man and might have even stopped the man from even shooting anyone.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Switzerland has a gun death rate of 6 in 100,00. America has a gun death rate of just over 10 in 100,000. England outlawed all handguns and has a 0.6 per 100,000 gun death rate. [1] The facts are pretty clear that in countries where guns are allowed, more people are shot and killed.

In 1999, there were 28,874 gun-related deaths in the United States - over 80 deaths every day. In 1999, 58% of all gun deaths were suicides, and 38% were homicides. Of all suicides, 57% occurred by firearm. In 2000, 75,685 people (27/100,000) suffered non-fatal firearm gunshot injuries.

What, exactly, is the point of guns? The fact of the matter is that America has a culture where guns are OK, and the only thing that is ever going to do is mean a great increase in gun crime. Guns are pointless in this day and age.

Side: Yes
2 points

Yes we need to ban guns. And while we are at it we need to ban cars because in drunk driving accidents they kill people. While we are at it we need to ban murder, rape robbery incest child battery wife battery dead batteries school shooting, drugs family violence, ....oh wait, those things have been banned for centuries. Well then they must not exist......wait a minute, whats wrong with this picture??

Side: Yes
izazovnog(322) Disputed
1 point

Guns can have other uses, such as hunting.

Also banning guns won't stop criminals getting guns.

Guns can be smuggled to criminals illegally.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

if you shoot people they can die or get hurt very badly.why should people do that and this is why guns should be banned from america

Side: Yes
2 points

My opinion is less valid then yours, for I am no citizen of America. I life in The Netherlands, and I assume y'all know that guns are illegal there, and nobody actually needs them. I completely understand the people who think they need guns to protect themselves but, there are other ways to do that then a gun. Besides that, if guns are illegal, you don't have to protect yourself against guns anymore, which will lower the level of violence a lot. And guns don't kill people? who actually thinks that's true? it's the person who holds the gun that decides to kill, but it's always the gun that's doing the dirty work. If guns are banned the person could still kill, yes that's true, but on such a large scale as with the gun.

Side: Yes
2 points

Besides that, if guns are illegal, you don't have to protect yourself against guns anymore, which will lower the level of violence a lot.

I'm afraid Americans aren't very fond of airtight logic. They don't understand that if they get a gun so does the bad guy.

And guns don't kill people? who actually thinks that's true?

Americans. They are cute as buttons.

Side: Yes
2 points

I think that they should be banned because yes they do sometimes hurt people and if they are not hurting people or anyone they are using them as a threat and that is not what guns are for. But I do have to say this and hope this does not hurt anyone feelings but I am going to speak from heart and tell my opinion about it, those who do have guns sometimes do not even need them they just have them just to look cool or even act cool and I have heard this a lot and it is you do NOT let the COOL wear YOU, YOU wear the COOL, but still you should not care what others say or think about you because what matters is YOUR opinion and YOU opinion ONLY.

Side: Yes
2 points

Let me be clear.

When you are a kid, you see guns as instruments of death. One wrong move and you are shot. You are used to playing games where your friends pretend to 'die' if they are shot by your toy that looks like a gun. Just an imaginative game, right?

Then you grow up and you realise that guns are actually really dangerous. One push of a finger on the trigger can make the difference between life and death. Psychologically speaking, we are attracted to illegal things. But when that object becomes legal we perceive it as having the liberty of using it whenever we want, even thought there are laws against it. But our brain is attracted towards this thing that can make such a change in someone's life.

People like to feel like they are in control. And when they are not, they may use the most disturbing ways of regaining their superior position over the others around them. One thing that we definitely understand about people is that fear is the best weapon to use against others. When you are feared, everything seems to be easier, right?

My point is that guns are never used by us for protection. This is just something that we tell ourselves to absorb the guilt that comes with using them. This is your mind trying to fool you. The real reason is because we love power. It is in our human nature to be in competition with others. One thing that differentiates us from animals is that we are evolved in this way: animals use violence to protect themselves, we use it because of our ego. To feel powerful. So guns are only instruments of power that help us in that way. Don't try to tell me that guns don't kill people. Power kills people. Therefore, yes. They definitely do.

Side: Yes
2 points

this is why children go too school in fear for the rest of the world that shit is a sci-fi nightmare.

Side: Yes
1 point

Guns should be far more restricted than they are now. We have far higher murder rates than almost any other first-world country. Yes, it's important to protect 2nd amendment rights. But they should not be unrestricted.

In Arizona, the Republican led state legislature has become enamored with a law allowing concealed weapons on every university campus in the state - the schools cannot ban them. What's worse, they originally wanted to extend that to the public school system!

I have a number of friends who are good, honorable gun owners. I know they are very responsible with their weapons.

I also have a friend who is border-line mentally disabled, and was given a concealed weapons permit. Once, I took him to the local convenience store to buy him a Coke. When we returned, there was a guy walking toward the house, with the intention of stealing his bike. "Oh no! I've got my .45 there!"

This nitwit left a loaded .45 in a bike bag, and parked the bike in the driveway unlocked - instead of leaving it inside the fenced yard, which was guarded by a Rottweiler and a German Shepard! Never mind the fact that had he said something, of course he could have put the freaking thing in the locked house!

He's a security guard, and a few months later he decided to take the gun to work. Never mind that he's only licensed as an unarmed guard. It's against the law for him to have a gun with him. Never mind that the company he worked for didn't have a license for him to have it, either. So what does he do? Of course! He left the same loaded .45 in his LUNCH BOX, unguarded on his desk at work, where it was stolen!

I have two huge problems with both these situations:

1. I completely object to being forcibly made part of a gun battle between someone like this and a shooter. I know this guy, and he's more likely to have the gun taken from him and used against him or someone like me, than he ever would be to defend anyone.

2. People like this unwittingly supply the black market to street thugs at discount prices no less.

His right to a gun has to be weighed against my right to be secured from his negligence.

Don't involve me in a fantasy some people seem to have that this is the wild west and every theater and fast food place is the OK Corral.

Responsible gun ownership, please?!

Side: Yes
Bender226(6) Disputed
3 points

Well if you would like more gun restriction why not just move to Chicago where they are basically banned. First of all, you do not have a right to safety, if your friend was acting in a negligent manner with his firearm and breaking the law then he shall be prosecuted. To demand that other people forfeit their rights as guaranteed by the constitution so you can gain a false illusion of safety and security is absurd, although sadly this is the view of many today. Just about every downfall of a free nation to a totalitarian one begins with irrational fear, then the removal of human rights in the name of public safety. In regard to your "problems".

1. Whether or not you object to being in an unsafe situation is irrelevant, you are responsible for your own safety in the end. Don't like it? Too bad, as I said being safe is not a right, it's your responsibility. Easy solution, don't hang out with that guy.

2. People like this do not supply the black market in significant numbers, as most gun owners are not this irresponsible, although a lot of illegal guns are stolen and straw purchases. But nonetheless, it really makes no difference where they come from because as long as there is a demand, there will be a supply, if they can no longer steal guns, they will illegally import them, if they can no longer import them they will fabricate them themselves. Don't think that is possible, then you are very ignorant of reality because they can fabricate fully automatic assault rifles in third world countries with primitive tools and skills, and I have even seen cases of people making a .22 handgun in a state prison.

This argument is so exhausted there's no other word for it than stupid. And it's not just guns, it's the prohibition of anything. This country has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that banning any type of item does not work, and in fact only makes the problem significantly worse. It has not worked with alcohol, the war on drugs is an even more impressive failure and waste of money, it has not worked with the current restrictions on firearms, and will not work with any further ones. If gun restrictions worked in this country, Chicago and DC would be the safest places in America, in which they are not, and Vermont and New Hampshire would be the most dangerous.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

The police will do an excellent job at investigating the murder of you or your loved one but they will NOT protect you from it happening. Those that are so against gun ownership and concealed carry have never been the direct victim of a violent crime.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
way875(1) Disputed
1 point

There is some wackos out there, to me YOU are one of them as well, and YOU dont need a gun. But I would never stand in the way of every perfect mental sane person owning a bazoka, machine gun or any other type weapon.

I am a COP and 21 years Military, WHO ARE YOU JOKER>

Take my rights away because you hang around the mentals.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Most objects have the potential to be a threat. A knife sitting on a kitchen table may be harmless but in the hands of a thief it can be deadly. Guns have more potential to be dangerous than knives but simply being dangerous is not grounds for banning an object.

Side: Yes
genericguy(30) Disputed
1 point

"simply being dangerous is not grounds for banning an object."

What?! Of course it should! Under that logic, all drugs should be legal. Surely you can see a problem with that.

Side: Yes
wowbob396(9) Disputed
2 points

That is why we have a license for certain guns.... You drive a car knowing the risks and that you can die from driving them, people still drive them anyways.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
aceslick911(11) Disputed
1 point

No. There is a difference between 'dangerous' and a 'threat'. A car is dangerous because it can run you over but it is not a threat. It can be a threat if it's driven by a mad man.

Drugs are not 'dangerous' just sitting on a table with no-one to consume them. They become a threat when they are handed out to kids on the street.

Side: Yes
1 point

Well you guys have answered the question already danielcraig and ta9798. A totally sensible approach with the only, somewhat irrational argument for retaining your weapons to defend against the Government! Sorry THEDert, but hardly likely or relevant, at least we hope! Lets face it, history dictates we are hardly a nice race are we? We use any excuse to batter the living daylights out of each other; race, religion, fun, etc. To think how much more advanced we'd be if we didn't constantly flatten everything we've spent time and money building and spent those resources on developing our society. But hey, it'll never happen. It's a sad world we live in where certain life forms find it necessary to fly planes into buildings. Disarming the terminally insane would be a good start, but who's to judge who're the insane?!

Side: Yes
1 point

Guns should be banned everywhere.

Side: Yes
OTdarters(40) Disputed
4 points

That provides no logical defense for your side.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

guns aren't needed on the daily by people outside of the armed forces so i really don't see a need for us carrying guns. it only leads to violence and gangbanging anyways...

besides, i remember reading once that in the countries that had banned guns and an over 90% less deaths to weaponry than in the u.s. now THAT says something.

Side: Yes
Republican2(349) Disputed
3 points

Banning guns wouldn't bring down gun violence significantly because people who are committing gun crimes are getting their guns illegally in the first place. And other countries that have banned guns have alot more variables to consider besides just banning guns alone. most other countries have a much tighter justice system that doesn't give any wiggle room for crimes in general let alone gun crimes.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
igetsyolked(20) Disputed
1 point

Democrats all the way son!!! Obama Obama Obama... Republicans are bums

Side: yes
s0m3b0dy(41) Disputed
2 points

if a robber came in your house you would want a gun.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
xaeon(1095) Disputed
4 points

Actually, no I wouldn't.

If a robber came into my house in an area where gun ownership is legal, I'd have to seriously consider whether or not this person is also going to have a gun; why would they enter my house unarmed if they knew that chances were that I would have a gun? All this is going to do is cause a shootout, with most likely someone (50% chance it's me) getting shot.

I'd rather hand over my stuff (it's just stuff), claim on the insurance afterwards and have a greatly reduced risk of ending up dead.

Side: yes
igetsyolked(20) Disputed
2 points

yup yup your wrong there bum. People need weapons to protect their liquor stores from being robbed by your people bum. U.S. is supposed to be in caps you uneducated bum. I buy your people bum.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Houston(187) Disputed
2 points

guns aren't needed on the daily by people outside of the armed forces so i really don't see a need for us carrying guns. it only leads to violence and gangbanging anyways...

What about hunting? Anyway, guns are illegally imported everyday. If there was a gang that was coming into my house, trying to rob me, I would want my gun to kill them.

besides, i remember reading once that in the countries that had banned guns and an over 90% less deaths to weaponry than in the u.s. now THAT says something.

That's not true. If it is, then show me a link. In a Australia they band guns, and guess what? Crime went up drastically. Bad guys are always going to have weapons, it's just a fact. So, shouldn't me or you have the right to protect ourselves?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ungernick28(21) Disputed
1 point

actually austrailia has one of the lowest gun mortality rates in the whole world

Side: yes
Bohemian(3860) Disputed
1 point

Yes, because 'gang-bangers' got their guns from legal sources to begin with?

Banning guns will stop gun violence, like the prohibition stopped people from drinking. All this would do is create a greater demand for an illegal gun trade.

And again, I must reiterate, that we still have a Constitutional Guarantee to own guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
CROSSBOW(10) Disputed
1 point

Guns are need by people outside of the armed forces. If the government told us to turn our guns in it would lead to more violence. Criminals who do not follow the laws will keep their guns or get them illegally. In Australia, the government banned weapons in 1996, after a publicized shooting. Immediately after the ban, armed robberies rose by 73 percent, unarmed robberies by 28 percent, kidnappings by 38 percent, assaults by 17 percent, and manslaughter by 29 percent. The United Kingdom had similar results. We have the right to bear arms and to protect our life and freedom even if you think we don't.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
truthteller(64) Disputed
1 point

Man were are u from I use a gun just to go buy my grocerys have u ever even been in a life or death situation if it happens then come tell me u don't want a gun if ur alive

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

First of all, crime happens on a daily basis, and while auto insurance is not needed on a daily basis, we have it dont we? Second, having a gun does not lead to violence and gang banging, having a mentality that seeks to force your will on another DOES lead to gang banging and crime. I have had guns my entire life and never had one ounce of desire to harm another. And if you actually think countries that have banned guns have less crime, try living in one. New York and Washington DC are hotbeds of violence and murder and they dont like regular folks to own guns. I will also prove my point to you: Where have you heard of nationally famous shootings? Columbine and Virginny Tech as well as Ohio. Guess what, they were "gun free zones" and idiots demanded gun bans when bans had failed. Where have you never ever heard of a gun rampage? Gun shows. That says something.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Absolutely they should be banned. There are almost no cases where an innocent person has defended themselves with a gun. And sure guns don't kill people, but the death rate would definately go down if people did not have easy access to weapons. I mean look at the VT incident. A college kid, with a clearly bad background record, managed to buy guns and ammo. We outlaw gun's and stuff like that does not happen

Side: yes
jeter42(10) Disputed
11 points

Wrong! Last year 2.5 million people were saved by using a gun for self defense. I don't consider that "almost no cases where an innocent person has defended themselves."

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
7 points

i can prove that here:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1071444

Oh and i used you in my Bibliography for my essay!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
shdjftgkorg(7) Disputed
9 points

probama it would still happen you F*ing moron if they arent afraid of going to prison for killing people they definately wouldnt be afraid to get a gun illegaly.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
4 points

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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
MBurke12(81) Disputed
5 points

Guns are illegal in Chicago.

How do you explain Chicago having the highest homicide rate?

Don't worry... I'll wait.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
7 points

Where'd you read that? The NRA Newsletter?

Highest gun related death per capita: DC, where guns are legal link

Lowest gun related death per capita: Hawaii, where guns are illegal link

And see Xaeon's arguement below.

Chicago is like 15 on the list. link And considering the poverty rate, and that it's the 3rd largest city (and probably the second most dense) that's actually not bad.

Side: yes
4 points

In case you different do other research, Chicago has one of the highest crime rates in the entire country. Crime rates equals criminals which means if guns are illegal, they must be getting them from somewhere, hmmm, i wonder where, black market or illegal selling across borders anyone?

Side: yes
lundwall9(13) Disputed
5 points

ever since we put registration on guns and making guns harder to get school shooting started. we need to allow students to carry concealed guns on campus. with the VT shooting if one student had been allowed to carry a gun on them the shooter would have ended it early and many people would still be alive today. it needs to be a law that we enforce to make every home have at least on gun to protect your self

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
trabb22(6) Disputed
3 points

Hey I'm all for gun rights but not on campus. Think of all the hormonal students waking up early every morning (god knows what they did last night) and going to class with a sidearm in their jacket. What happens when a fist fight between two boys turns into a shootout. Then the next thing you know someone sees their friend getting shot at and they pull a gun. Next thing you know theres about ten kids with guns drawn shooting at each other. I think that might create a few more deaths on a regulaur basis than once in a schools lifetime a single shooter. But I remeber hearing that in one school shooting students had shotguns in their car that they got to and they brought down the attacker. I think that is acceptable but not unregestered guns in students back pockets.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
chrisvalve(2) Disputed
1 point

You live in Holliwood movie I see. But after the movie the actors are alive. In the real world if you have Rambo everywhere you will have killed people everywhere and guess who will be killed - good or bad. Wake up or drink your drugs on time.

Side: Yes
irrevocable(1) Disputed
4 points

Have you actually read the newspaper? There are several cases and some that a gun prevented them from being a dead victim. I speak from experience. As for the easy access of guns, criminals would have access to guns in the black market regardless if they banned guns. Cocaine is illegal but some how people still gain access to it...well, how does that happen?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
sicktoad Disputed
4 points

1,145 times a day handguns are used against robbers. 416 times each day women use their handguns to protect themselves from rapists. Overall, a gun in the home is 216 times more likely to be used in self defense than to cause the death of an innocent victim. And even if you don't own a gun, preserving the right of your neighbors to own them is one of the best ways to keep criminals out of your neighborhood.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

hey i agree but where did you get your facts from...............................................................

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Prometheus(23) Disputed
3 points

Well look at prohibtion in 1919 and on, also known as the Volstead act. Alcohol was completely banned yet everybody still drank. They found ways to drink. People had to brew underground, and drink in underground bars, but it happened. Even major Authorities including police and judges were found down there. The same things would happen with guns, and who would be the people to illegally own guns? Not harmless hunters, but gangsters and other criminals who are dangerous with such weapons. It is still going to happen. Maybe we just need tighter gun laws when purchasing them.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
mekody(12) Disputed
2 points

If we outlaw guns that stuff will still happen because they are already illegally getting guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
igetsyolked(20) Disputed
2 points

yous a jock bum son stick to football girl. So what your favorite football team?

Side: yes
shaneyam99(112) Disputed
2 points

just because you make it illegal to buy a gun you will never and i mean never get all the guns off the street because the import guns illegally they buy guns without ffa regulation and peple are not stupid and they will find a way to make themselves weapons such as the book writtem by Bill Holmes published in 2002 titled .50-Caliber Rifle Construction Manual

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
mariohomeboy(7) Disputed
1 point

Look at China, UK, Australia...homicides in general and crime rates have RISEN since their gun bans...yeah sure they're less GUN deaths but they're more DEATHS in GENERAL. Search up "China Stabbings" on how 1 knife killed 11 people.

Guns take life, guns save lifes. Having no guns just will cause lives to be lost.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

accoding to my statstics thats still a quater of the american homocide rate. also i dont tink that the knife crime is a valid arguement seing as im pretty sure you get more than 11 rounds in a gun.

im not trying to argue that stopping guns will prevent crime, but im pretty sure that if the person in china had had a gun, it would have been a hell of a lot worse

Side: yes
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

No cases where an innocent peson has defended themselves with a guin??????? Either you are under twelve years old or you have done zero research. There are hundreds of thousands of cases of innocent people protecting themselves with guns. Woman agains gun control, the second amendment police department are only two places that will tell you how many times innocent people not only have protected themselves but even assisted the police.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
smithlogan66(2) Disputed
1 point

Okay ingenious, let's think about this. So your going to keep Law-biding citizens from accessing guns so all the law breakers can go out and shoot all the law-biding citizens just to simply protect the estimated 5,000 people from getting killed by Gun Shot Wounds, when really you just killed those 5,000 people along with the other 500,000 people that we're law-biding.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Yes guns should be banned in America. In the UK, deaths by guns are a lot lower. The reason is that it's still harder for the average man in the street to obtain a gun. The American Constitution states "The right to bear arms" and the Americans seem to feel really strongly about protecting this right. Obviosly the constitution is held in high esteem to the Americans, based on their history and pride of independence. However you can't hold onto values and laws that have lost their importance or value. At the time of the American Declaration of Independance, which, I imagine would have led to the drawing up of the rules in the constitution, life and times were completely different. Shootings and murder were everywhere, and if I was George Washington writing a proclamation for a new world, then it makes perfect sense to give the citizens of this new world, the right to defend their land, property, and life. And for this reasons Americans have guns. But, if you can't get hold of one, you can't kill someone with it. It's a simple argument really, guns kill.

Side: yes
1 point

Guns should be banned and there will be extremely low cases of gun related murder.

If guns over the world is banned, we will get world peace for a while.

Side: yes
Republican2(349) Disputed
4 points

That is completely ridiculous. If guns were banned, people would get the elsewhere (ever heard of the black market???) and the law abiding citizens would be defenseless. And world peace??? There is no way that's possible right now no matter what you ban. Guns are not the only way violence is carried out. Do your research.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
shaneyam99(112) Disputed
1 point

people will still get guns and whats going to happen to all the guns all over the world. there will never be world peace. there will always be weapons. people will always kill other people. its as simple as that

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

Peace for a while? Is that why we have had wars globally for thousands of years before guns were invented? Is that why schools and churches are shot to pieces and gun shows are not?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

itz gud 4 everybody cuz it helps u alot on eveyry problem u gt no matter wat

Side: yes
1 point

i don't think we should ban all guns, but certainly some. if you want to hunt, then go ahead a buy a hunting rifle, but what if the purpose of a gun other then that. getting one for protection is stupid since there are many other options you have before resorting to a gun for protection. think about getting an alarm, moving to a low crime area, or buying a guard dog. i think guns such as AK-47's are overkill and should be banned. do you really need a machine gun to kill a little deer?

Side: yes
1 point

Guns are an awful thing. This world would be SO much better without them.

Side: yes
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

Crime and stupid people are such a bad thing. The world would be so much better without either, and the rest of us could own entire armories and never have a problem.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Yes because not only can people kill others they can kill themselves

Side: yes
1 point

People KILL each OTHER!! THEY COULD BE USED TO KILL OR ASSANATE THE PRES

Side: yes

However, Japan has an extremely peaceful society (except for the Yakuza), and they have a ban on most forms of weaponry.

Side: yes
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

Japan is also a dictatorship where they work people to death and where if you "dishonor" someone your head comes off. Go live there, at least there are no guns!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

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Side: yes
1 point

lol . .

Side: yes
1 point

Guns should be banned because all it would cause is more crime rates in America and yes i know even if guns get banned people would still find a way to get but at least there won't be so much crime going as it would be if it gets banned

Side: yes
1 point

they are killing people. BAN THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: yes
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

Criminals kill people. Let's ban them. Real affective huh? Guess what dude, I have many guns and I've never hurt a soul. Phooey with your little ban daydream.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
MKIced(2511) Disputed
-1 points

Guns don't kill people on their own. People kill people by using guns. And besides, do you think a lot of gang members buy their guns in a gun shop? Nope... Most gun crime comes from gangs and criminals who get their guns illegally. The legal guns are owned by the police, home owners (for protection), and hunters, etc.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

with regards to "guns dont kill people on there own" no the dont however their sole purpose is to kill and without a gun it is harder to kill someone (granted you canuse other weapons however they are generaly less effetive and arentgoing to harm as man people)

with regard to the fact that most gun crime is from illegl guns, in that case why not make all guns illegal. i maintain that making guns illegal would make it harder for people to get hold of them.

Side: yes

of course they kill people. bloody yanks. why is the combined iq of your population 4

Side: yes
vulcan9697(6) Disputed
1 point

so do cars, and stds,and fast food, and radiaton from the sun.

lets bann driving and sex and a quick meal and while were at it lets just cover the sun up to.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
0 points

thats a niave and stupid comment, while driving etc is dangerous, the sole purpose of a gun is to kill people.

cars are useful and when used correctly arent dangerous, could be wrong but im pretty sure without sex we'd become extinct, and without the sun wed die

guns have the sole purpose to kill and theres no need to be allowed

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Look at murder suicide rates other places. It is a no brainer...

Side: yes
1 point

In England, people have realized that guns just create more violence and therefore, they have banned them. And it did them good. The US's murder rate is 15 times higher of that in England. (That's a lot!!!) Most murders involve guns. The most common argument against banning guns is that people should be able to defend themselves. But most likely they would be defending themselves against guns. But if you got rid of guns, you wouldn't be needing to really defend yourself. Yes people can get get killed other ways too, but guns are the most common way, and guns only are really used for violence. It takes a lot of rage, strength and energy to stab someone, but it only takes a twitch of a finger to shoot someone. GUNS SHOULD BE BANNED!!!!

Side: yes
vulcan9697(6) Disputed
2 points

maybe we shouldnt be looking at how people are being killed but who is doing it. fact is go in any prison and what color do you see? black and brown. so if your going to get a handle on violence then get rid of the problem causers not one of our only ways of defending ourselves from them

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
geneF(11) Disputed
1 point

Guns dont create violence. they are made of metal and cannot kill anything. If your logic is true then carfs cause drunk driving. In england, they not only prosecute anyone for defending themselves, they also pay the criminals for their defense. You could not pay me to live in England. By the way, there were centureis where guns did not exist, yet people felt the need to defend themselves. Why do you think that is? Because the mind of the criminal is the problem, not the gun. No, guns should not be banned, and the day YOU face a violent attacker you will learn that the hard way.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Although bearing arms is a right in America according to the constitution, it should still be illegal! the U.S. constitution is broken beyond repair! Guns are becoming more easier to purchase and people are becoming more insane.humans are killing more innocent people everyday! the only proper way to stop this epidemic would be to ban guns from all local citizens and only give guns to military or law enforcement!

Side: yes
vulcan9697(6) Disputed
1 point

great idea! go run for senate. so what do we do with att the guns people have now? o lets go to their house and get them. ya thatll work since some of the people that own guns illegally dont even have a ss# cuz they snuck over here. police are not your personal body gaurd, it is your responsability to protect yourself. lets say 6 gangbangers jump you? they have no guns. just bats. what do you do? band baseball. ignorance isnt bliss

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
USpatriot76 Disputed
1 point

Does that means the freedom of speech should be banned what about religion and right to an attorney i guess that means we shouldn't have any of these either. Actually violent crime rates are going down will more an more people are owning guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

have any of you actually SEEN Bowling for Columbine???????

Side: yes
Springfeildx(10) Disputed
1 point

ya look these kids were messed up.......and got there hands on guns anyway but look at it like this. had every teacher, janitor, principal,etc in that building had a gun how many peoples life's would have been saved??

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

accidents caused by contingent actions

people suffering from mental illness and minor may use a gun in wrong ways

Side: Yes
1 point

I say that guns should be banned because they are killing thousands of people each week

Side: Yes
geneF(11) Disputed
2 points

Then cars should be banned because they are using drunk drivers to kill people every weekend. And I betcha plenty of those drunk driving murderers would not own a gun because they think it is too dangerous.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Springfeildx(10) Disputed
2 points

Saying," I say that guns should be banned because they are killing thousands of people each week." is like saying,"I say that people should be banned because they are killing thousands of people each week

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Okay i wish there was both sides because to be honest i am doing a project on this and i really wanna do both sides. we should banned guns because in the year of 2012 and of course 2011 there have been many killings, deaths, and shoot outs. shoot outs at SCHOOL! Come on and im pretty sure there will be many more that's sad and crazy. anyways, there's been kids dying from guns that either accidently went off or one is shooting one another. its not so much their fault for having the gun its for the people who sells CHILDREN Guns illegaly and i doubt they wont stop because to them that's like their salary, the money that pays bills. not to long ago a little girl in 3rd grade (i think, but she was young) got shoot by a little boy because he had a gun in his bag and it accidently went off when he set his bag down. kids my age dies like everyday that's scary. and there's people that will shoot someone for no reason.

this is the part that is confusing but makes sence why i agree to having guns but also shouldn't. people say we should have guns because i can keep my children safe. i can protect myself from people that is robbing me. like for real that's good reasons but you can also kill someone just trying to protect yourself. (i hate death if you cant tell) so when the police ask you what happen you'll just say i killed someone because they were robbing me. like they already got their consequence because you killed them, so what about your consequence you just killed someone! that's murder! either if it was an accident, trying to defend your self doesnt matter i think you should at least get consequences (they prob. do but i just dont know). like if someone was beating you up and you fight back you will get in trouble for fighting back. so why is it different from shooting someone and killing them. Hope you liked i kind of went off track(: but yeah.

By: Porshe' Sturgis 14years old. March.19.2012

Side: Yes
1 point

guns should be banned everyone who is saying no is an idiot

Side: Yes
Bornkountry(7) Disputed
1 point

Your a real genius aren't you. It's people like you who will look to people like us when you need help.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

guns should be banned because kids can get killed and there is shootings in the sua almost every week get a life and stop guns

Side: Yes
1 point

please stop guns in the usa help others and help the poor

You are absolutely wrong about the second amendment being put in place to prevent a British invasion or coup. It was put in place partially to allow the creation of militias. You're also wrong about guns making crime rates go higher, take a look at Switzerland. Men there are required to own automatic weapons and yet they have next to no crime rate. Their lack of a standing army is what was originally for seen for the United States, or a system similar. A small standing army to form the core of a greater force in times of war. That is what the second amendment implies.

Obviously you know little about guns, a shotgun is probably one of the least threatening weapons to people. Their limited range for their weight and length makes them impractical for crime, but perfect for the defense of ones home.

The guns aren't the problem its people and don't start blaming poverty, or education. Just because you're poor doesn't mean that you have to kill someone to improve your life. There are many ways to do that. So long as guns exist people will always find a way to acquire them. By reducing the number of honest, law abiding citizens with the capability to protect themselves from these criminals you're asking for a breakdown of order.

But I diverge from the topic at hand. Point is only an idiot points a gun anywhere near a person they don't want to kill. There's no such thing as a gun related accident, gun related deaths almost always are caused by carelessness or stupidity or both.

Side: Yes
1 point

The british aren't going to invade, so we don't need to protect ourselves". So when an american enters you're home with intent to kill, are you going to defend yourself with a fork? I do agree that most burglary's that occur do not involve a murder or serious injury, but not all home invasion's are with the intent to remove your property. If I we're in the position to put my life on the line, or lose a television, I would rather lose the television. The question is whether this person is here to steal my property or harm me or my family. I would rather have the means to protect myself and my family. If we lived in a perfect world where we didn't have Poverty, Drugs and Poor Education, then maybe I could see youre point. The fact of the matter is we don't. When America gets to the point where I can go to sleep at night, or even go about my daily business and not worry, then I'll consider getting rid of my gun. Until then, we live in a dangerous world where people live outside the law and I feel safe knowing theres an amendment granting me the right to defend myself.

Side: Yes
1 point

YES! beacase in country there guns are ileagle the criminality is way lower than america

stastistic shows that

Side: Yes
1 point

It is morally better to yell and scream at an armed attacker than to shoot them.

Guns in the hands of stupid people are dangerous.....we should also ban stupid people.

Everyone knows that a pregnant woman, an old person, or a person in a mobile home could excape trouble by hiding in their bedroom with a criminal in their home and calling the police who are miles away.

Private citizens, who are alone in their homes, dont need guns, they need to rely on the police, who travel in groups, have radios, and carry guns.

The second amendment says MILITIAS have the right to carry guns, not private citizens, and that is why the militias are there to protects us and are composed of....private citizens.

Guns are extremely dangerous, and thats why schools which are gun free zones as are churches are not targeted by violent criminals while guns shows and reenactments are replete with criminal violence.

Who needs a gun when you can dive under your bed and be safe from a criminal?

A criminal might take you gun and use it on you....especially if it is better than the one he is carrying and since he can get to you before you pull the trigger.

Columbine was safe because it was a gun free zone and the guys who did the shooting were simply

law abiding citizens who happened to have nasty guns. Besides, all was well once they called the cops.

Having a gun in the home of a private citizen who takes it out now and then for target shooting is more dangerous than a car in the hands of a citizen who drinks himself silly every weekend.

Side: Yes
1 point

I have a framing hammer in my car. This girl next to me is alive not because I have no gun and cannot bring it in, and amidst screaming people, shoot her, but because I have a framing hammer in my car they would not notice...and I have no desire to harm her which I could do within seconds. It would take me less than a minute to kill her with my hammer. A split second to shoot her. Neither of my implements pose her a threat because I am not a murderer. If I desired to kill her, not one of these people or ten thousand cops could stop me within the next two minutes.

Side: Yes
1 point

The data is irrefutable. Countries that ban guns or implement stricter laws concerning firearms have lower crime rates.

Side: Yes
1 point

The right to own a weapon is not, nor should it be, a fundamental right. If there were no consequences to gun ownership, I would certainly support allowing all guns everywhere. But there are consequences. Guns kill people just like fists kill people, except it is much easier to erroneously kill/injure with a gun.

I dispute the claim of self-defense rights. It is indisputably safer to not own a gun than to own a gun, save for the rare case when the area is so dangerous that using the gun to save oneself is statistically more likely than using it to kill oneself/others, on accident or otherwise. And all of these special cases exist only because guns exist in the first place. Remove them all and violence drops dramatically (after all, there is no such thing as a drive-by knife fight).

The mission to remove guns from the streets is akin to the drive to promote world peace. In fact, they are essentially the same thing. Although promoting peace can have consequences (often, it creates conflict) the less war there is the better. It is the same with guns. The unique factor that makes guns, like war, so worth fighting against is that they cause significant collateral damage. They fuel drug cartel violence, they contribute to accidental deaths and suicides, and they often kill innocent bystandards. Other weapons? Not so much.

The attempt to ban guns begins at the supreme court. The 2nd ammendment must be re-interpreted under its primary intention, "militia." Militia, in today's speak, means locally stationed military, or just military. If reinterpreted correctly, this law does not protect gun owners.

Next, the federal government would coordinate with states to completely eliminate all production of new guns in the country, and ban the importation. This would stifle the supply to almost zero.

Finally, gun buyback programs and phased-in laws against gun ownership would slowly remove the remaining guns.

This would require a lot of effort, and a lot of redneck outrage, but it would all be worth it in the long run. To the few people every year who get attacked by people and theroretically could have saved themselves if they had a gun (and also the assailant did not have a gun (and the victim could not have just defended with a knife)), sorry. You will die, but for the benefit of millions of victims and victims' families.

I conclude with this statement: the less opportunities we have to kill, the less we do.

Side: Yes
Bornkountry(7) Disputed
2 points

Why just for a simple "Redneck" as you have stereo typed me and my fellow gun owners, I have to say your an uneducated blind, ignorant person. People have been doing evil things since the beginning of time and guess what the criminals have always been armed with weapons that match that time period. And I WILL BE AS EQUALLY OR BETTER ARMED THAN THE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO DO MALICIOUS THINGS TO MY FAMILY. I will not fight bring a kitchen knife to a gun fight."unlike you". And the right to own my firearms and my right to my second AMENDMENT was fought for by my ancestors, which probably unlike you can be traced to the revolutionary war. And who are you to reinterpret the constitution? It says what it says for a reason. Not to be ever changed by any person or government for any reason! I CONCLUDE WITH THIS STATEMENT "THE STRONGEST REASON FOR THE PEOPLE TO RETAIN THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IS AS A LAST RESORT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AGAINST TYRANNY IN GOVERNMENT" Thomas Jefferson. Sounds like to me he is on to something.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

simple facts u guys are killing your own people...

of course u have the problem of having a huge influence by money in all your politics...so getting it banned ...don't think its feasable...allas...

still in Europe where gun laws are very strict...the incidents....are not even near your safest city..and that our top estimate..

fact criminals with evil intent will always be able 2 fabricate purchase or acquire a weapon..

good thing here if some1 gets in a shooting incident its mostly liquidations IE criminal shooting criminal so good riddance

the not having the availability and ease of acquiring fire arms..does reflect in the figures ladies...but then we have a free health care 2 which saves lives..

think the mentality of the us is not at the moment saving lives or the care of it reflected..in gun laws health care..food industry..etc...u guys are fucked basically..until you yourself decide 2 make some fundamental chances....don't give me this crap about democracy and free Dom...as yar living in a 2 party system..and no i ain't a commy..:)

its egocentric group behavior whats killing..people...and sheep behavior...oh he has a gun beeeeeeeh beeeeeh i get 1 no better i get 2 beeeeeeeeh behh..and so ya all fall down the trap...gl on yas

Side: Yes
1 point

I can hardly understand how this is not obvious, you have lost an unknown number of normal people today at a cinema screening. That should not be allowed to happen so easily, how can America let it? I have seen comments in the NEWS FEED which suggest that this is not a suprise for the area! My mind boggles, if someone is shot it should be a suprise! If you did not do everything humanly possible to prevent the possiblility that someone with the capacity to kill could have hold of a weapon with that capability then that is ridiculous. If the sacrifice you have to make is to hand over a gun which you cant prove you need for any good reason enough to keep it then that is a small price if it might save one life.

The right to arms is out of date, just because people have them already is a weak excuse, maybe it will take 20 years to get it in order but every year will be a bit safer than the last. If you have a gun in your bag then that suggests you would consider using it, taking a life is a big deal, what if you missed, shot in a struggle through a window, or across the road.

Guns kill because if point your fingers and say bang nobody dies.

If you have a gun to protect yourself its a good bet that your attacker has one too, maybe if they were banned then they wouldnt have one... or so much confidence.

Hand in your weapons because every time someone is shot you know it might just have been prevented.

Side: Yes
1 point

The easier it is to get hold of guns, the greater the likelihood of people being fatally shot. I realise that criminals and mentally afflicted people are unable to own guns legally, but since you can't predict who is going to commit a crime or develop a mental illness in the future, that doesn't offer much protection if somebody suddenly has a psychotic episode and goes on a killing spree.

Side: Yes
1 point

In Singapore we don't have peoples going around on killing spree!!!

Side: Yes
1 point

I find America's obsession with guns fascinating. Because the founders of your country wrote a document hundreds of years ago stating that everybody has the right to bear arms means that this document cannot be challenged to suit a modern era many years later? What makes this Constitution infallible other than how much importance is placed on its merits by the people? No single document or set of laws is infallible. Basic logic. The fact is there is a strong correlation between legal guns and higher homicide rates. More Americans are killed by guns every year than all other developed countries combined. No problems with guns I hear you say? Also, inb4 "some countries where it is legal to obtain guns have low crime rates". Using a few examples to justify a larger picture painted by the correlation between gun ownership and higher homicide rates is intellectually dishonest debate fodder.

And quite frankly, I am sick of hearing the tired old phrase "guns don't kill people - people do". Yeah, people kill people. But what are my chances of going on a murder spree using a screwdriver vs a loaded gun? Idiots.

Side: Yes
1 point

I my point of view guns shoul be benned not only in America but in other countries also. Guns should be used only in military. Let us think why nowadays there are a lot of terrorists, of course because of guns and other veapons. They became available to a society and imagine how many families have suffered from it, how many mothers have losen their child? but anyway they MUST be used in military only. despite the fact that they can damage someones life guns could be the only way to protect us,what the military is succesfuly doing.

Side: Yes
1 point

i think guns should be banned but only in public because if guns were banned even in homes then it could be like when they banned alcohol. people would find ways to get guns and hide them from police. not only would it begin another prohibition(except with guns) but the black market would have more things to sell. if we got rid of guns then the police could defend themselves easier

Side: Yes
1 point

Guns have the sole intention to kill people. Rather than this guns aren't used for anything else. While committing a murder with a knife or a bat is considered a misconduct, guns where only designed to kill. Knives and bats were developed for other causes rather than killing. But guns aren't used in any other way. In addition guns are even more lethal than knives because one can accidentally kill someone due to uncontrollable firing. This especially applies to assault rifles and submachine guns that fire multiple rounds per pulling the trigger. Where as with a knife only one person can be targeted. Another point for the gun ban is that people with criminal intentions can easily get access to guns and weapons. America has seen this during the past 20 years the gang violence the frequent gun-related homicides and the brutal massacres such as columbine, Virginia Tech and now New Town Connecticut. By giving these people (or any people at all) access to these weapons multiple people can be killed in just a matter of seconds and most importantly guns can be acquired legally. But for what cause? What could you possibly need a gun for? For hunting but only with a license and any deliberate murder would be considered a misconduct because hunting rifles where intended to kill animals and that is a legitimate cause for killing. But since cannibalism is extremely scarce people say they need guns for protection. But from what? There's the police there's the FBI that protect but just normal residents why do they need guns. Every single time people have a conflict they don't try to peacefully solve the problem. A lot of them would just go crazy, grab their gun and start shooting at the other person they were having their conflict with. If they wouldn't have guns they might think two more times before reverting to the gun. People always think violence is the answer I can assure you it isn't and those that think violence isn't caused by guns but by people they should know that guns foster this violence and even intensify it on a catastrophic scale. The worst part of all is that because of the gun sales and the simplicity of acquiring a weapon, criminal organizations are heavily benefiting from this as well. The Sinaloa cartel and various street gangs can simply order people to purchase weapons for them. If the opportunity weren't there it would be much more difficult for criminal organizations to acquire them. However criminal organizations can still smuggle weapons and get assault weapons but the ban on weapons could lower the murder rate and hinder organizations from bulking up with annihilating firepower. We should act fast and realize that we are protecting ourselves from the same thing that is supposed to protect us. Guns are wrong and we need to find an alternative method. The constant killing has got to stop!

Side: Yes
1 point

As a human I am disgusted as to the fact that people still want to buy guns despite the amount of death they cause. First let me say I am not against the sale of select weapons for hunting and farmers but no one else needs weapons and certainly no one needs fully automatic carbines or 12 gauge shotguns, why would anyone need weapons that are close to and are in some cases military grade?? The line "guns don't kill people, people do" is quite ridiculous as an argument for gun sales since it is "people" that the guns are being sold to!! It is just a case of prevention, remove guns being so easily accessible and you then decrease the gun crime and remove the need for guns to defend yourself. This is common sense, it's the reason why no countries are now allowed to make nuclear weapons, to say people deserve guns do defend themselves is to say places like Iran and North Korea should be able to make nuclear weapons to defend themselves and if you think that then clearly something is wrong

Side: Yes
1 point

I agree that gun should be banned. Guns are really dangerous, they can kill people imediately and people have sentisive emotions. No one can sure that when we are anger we can regulate ourselves with a gun belong. Without a gun, we can fight him, it does not a big matter, but when we use guns, we cannot regret.

Side: Yes
1 point

The Illegalization of fire weapons in the USA is a MUST! Too many innocent people have died already Please act now!

Side: Yes
1 point

The Illegalization of fire weapons in the USA is a MUST! Too many innocent people have died already Please act now!

Side: Yes
1 point

I believe we should ban guns in America because it's time that we grow up and stop believing we're still living in the Wild West, that we're "Top Gun" fighters! It's time we snap out of our fantasies and paranoia fears that we need more guns to protect us from the other guy when it's pretty obvious that more people are killed within the safety of their own homes due to accidents or domestic altercations. I agree with Pres. Obama that the safety of our children must always comes first and has priority over our so-called constitutional rights to own a gun. We need to stop ENABLING serial killers who want to go down in a blaze of glory while taking innocent children, men, and women down with them. Let's banned all guns, or at least assault weapons (the "Barbie Doll Weapon with Accessories!"). Thank you. Jenny

Side: Yes
1 point

The second amendment is made for a militia that would work to protect the communities. If the fathers of the nation would know what they have done they would decide do not create the "free" America. There is no freedom that have been made to kill people and destroy the life. The fathers of the American democracy developed the freedoms to make a country of individuals with high spirit and good will. Is it good will to keep tens of guns at home to protect from everybody - That thinking is much closer to a thinking of a psicho than to a thinking of a normal men. There are organizations that make a lot of money making American psichos. The true is that even if you had your two or three guns in a massacres you wouldnt be able to use any of those without to take a good part of the mass killing. When in such case the police arrive you will be more likely to be killed as offendor that to be greeted as a protector. And what is the result at the end - Just a scene of a stupid bloody Holliwood movie.

The true is that the only way to make America safer is to remove the guns completely from the American home and American streets. If owing a gun will be a criminal act all those gangs will be put in prisons for less than a week. The mad guys with mad plans will be put in the hospitals for a week. And the country will become safe and nice place where you can walk even after 9PM.

Look at the countires in the world. Is America the safest one or not and why.

Having Senators aand Rep.'s talking that the gun would protect a teacher in a school or a child - isn't it a sign of madness. Those guys for sure shouldnt be let having guns. If they are so mad how mad would be their kids.

If there is a fine if you let a kid to smoke or drink before the age of 18 or 21 isn't it stupid to allow the same kid to learn to shoot with guns on aim.

And of course the question comes - did God say - not kill (there was nothink like - not drink or not smoke). Or the gun lobists think that the God will work for their lobbies too. Is not a shame or fun for sure - it is a stupidity and fearlessness from the true but the punishment comes till the live time. The God is good but doesn't forget.

So weird was to hear religious people stating that the guns are not the issue. They for sure are the issue. The issue are the man and women that believe only in their guns and don't know how mental sick they are.

Side: Yes
1 point

There is no way to be sure that people will not use guns to harm or kill innocent people, like in the 2006 Pennsylvanian Amish school shooting. Guns offer too much power that some people will not use carefully and kill gratuitously.

Side: Yes
1 point

True, people kill people, no guns, but guns allow a person to kill many people in a short time. if that nut didn't have a gun, how kids do you think hw wouldv'e been able to kill with a knife or club before being subdued? A gun gives that person the feeling like he is invincible, which makes it easier for him to go on a killing spree. If he wasn't able to get a gun, all those kids would be alive today, except maybe one. If gun owners would think of that, instead of there own selfish desires to have a gun, alot of children would still be alive today. Reports show that a small percentage of gun owners actually use a gun to defend themselves, there are more killed with a gun, than those using a gun to protect themselves, they cain't say it's used for selfdefense. with all the guns in the hands of so called law abiding citizens, why are so many children massacred today? where are they using there guns to protect? Gun owners don't want to give up there guns because of there selfish desire to own one. They want to say "what about my rights", whats more important, there desire to own something they will rarely use, or those childrens rights that was killed to grow up? They don't need it for food, thats what stores are for. I guess they just like to shoot helpless beings to see blood, what a minute, that sounds like that nut who shot all those kids! Maybe we really do need to outlaw guns.

Side: Yes
1 point

who said shotguns isn't a deadly tool? you ever see what damage it does to a body? thats why the army uses them!!!!!!!

Side: Yes
1 point

I think guns should be allowed in schools only if the teacher or principal has at least two years of experience on how a gun works and how to shoot a gun and also for protection of the students

Side: Yes
1 point

I agree with you. The experience is very important!

I agree with you. The experience is very important!

Side: Yes
1 point

Gun is too dangerous!

Gun is too dangerous!

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Side: Yes
1 point

Gun is too dangerous!

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Gun is too dangerous!

Side: Yes
1 point

While I think it would be too soon to "ban guns in America" outright.. I firmly believe we need to ask ourselves is a gun in everyone's hand really the world we want to live in?

Guns need not be banned right away.. but I do believe our goal should be cultivating a world where we don't need guns. That's our goal. That is different from what is really taking place but that is our goal. Life and the preservation of Life is the most important thing. Our mission should be to preserve life.

There is an unrealistic feeling of "control" that a gun gives you. Basically blinding people to think that somehow they can be above the natural Godly chaos of the world. IF someone really wants to kill you, there's not much of a chance of you defending yourself. If you believe in a higher power there is no reason to be scared. If it the spirit within us all is collective than you really don't have anything to fear but fear itself.

As far as one post stating if we all had money and the basic essentials than there would be no reason for guns... I think this sentiment is spot on. NOBODY ever discusses the real reason criminals have guns. There are too many to name, but they all usually go back to an unhealthy relationship to money and greed in our society, the paper chase. I'm not saying we need to be communists. Even ancient Rome fed it's peasants in the street. There is a civic as well as a spiritual responsibility we have towards mankind. We are all on the same side here. Our individual salvation depends on our collective salvation. You can't keep killing the problem. You must educate and preserve life.

On a small scale guns could be replaced with Tasers and other close range defense mechanisms. Guns initial purpose was to defend against the tyranny of government by forming militia. Which I would argue a gun or semi automatic won't do much against our current military. The 2nd Amendment is dated to say the least. It was meant for defending against Indians and the British. I'm pretty sure the peaceful education of our enemies and ourselves has turned these foes into our brothers.

The world is more educated than ever... and there are social networking sites and the internet which can disseminate information faster than ever. We can either be part of a global arms race and kill ourselves or we can seek virtue, truth, and education in order to live in harmony.

I will add that GUNS aren't really the issue at hand. It's a disconnection to our spirituality. And not a religious spirituality, a mankind spirituality that connects us all. If we really loved all life (not liked) but loved life we would be in favor of preserving it and educating the world to preserve it. Guns are just a reminder of our mortal beings and immortal souls.

Side: Yes
1 point

i think that guns are not bad but if they are used in a bad way then they can do realharm. This is why people are dying because people are using the guns in wrong ways which will mean to veryy sad consiquences.

Side: Yes
1 point

Guns should be not BANNED but I think they should be a bit more restricted with more secured information on buyer of the gun.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, there should be guns in america because americe right now is turning into comunism and we need to fight back! if the guns were banned we would be in comunism or scared because the president has all the guns and he could kill us! Obama is a comunist and we need to fight back!

Side: Yes
1 point

• It will reduce murders and shootings.

• People will not be able to feel safe if everyone can have a gun.

• Children will be given a bad example when they see parents that have guns.

• Statistics show that Canada, UK, and Australia have lower rates of gangs. This is because they ban guns.

• Mentally ill people might accidently use it if they get hallucinations or think they are in danger, even if they are perfectly safe.

• The government can’t have any gun control.

• Gun violence is making us lose billions of dollars.

• It causes obstacles to economic growth.

• We can’t let a shooting like the Connecticut shooting happen again.

Side: Yes
izazovnog(322) Disputed
1 point

I personally think guns should be allowed, but with a license.

There are other uses for guns, such as hunting animals.

Also banning guns won't stop gun crimes, as they can be simply gained illegally, such as smuggling.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
SAXON(16) Disputed
1 point

Here, in Canada, it has been discovered that by far the majority of guns used in the commission of a crime originated from the USA. Criminals smuggled them across the border into Canada. This PROVES gun control works. We need only tighten up our border, and the crime ends. Simple. We had only recently begun to arm our border guards, which is ridiculous. Our border should not only have armed guards, but our military should be stationed along the border with the USA to keep your violence out of my country. Those caught smuggling arms into Canada should be shot on the spot. No questions asked. No trial. Nothing. End of.

Side: Yes
1 point

im just here for a oral report due tomorrow....

this has nothing to do with the debate sorry guys!

Side: Yes
1 point

Idiots who say guns don't kill people. It is 10x easier to kill someone with a gun than with a knife

Side: Yes
1 point

Idiots who say guns don't kill people. It is 10x easier to kill someone with a gun than with a knife.

Side: Yes
1 point

Idiots who say guns don't kill people. It is 10x easier to kill someone with a gun than with a knife.

Side: Yes

Guns are dangerous even though when they are banned people will still make them people think that they will still use them less people will use them less deaths will be by guns.

Side: Yes
1 point

It is only reasonable to ban specific guns like bazookas or really any thing found in the military.

Side: Yes
1 point

What do we do if we're mad in America then? This restricts our flow of emotions.

Side: Yes
1 point

Guns can kill so many people in just a short amount of time.

Side: Yes
1 point

I have seen enough. Even if people say that the gun is just the object and it is the person who sets the trigger, the government is not doing enough to look after people who do such mas murders. The social system is failing them and so the only way to protect society is to ban guns completely. This is a weapon that can be used for destruction by certain people. If the system is not able to stop people getting ready access to such weapon them then we must stop giving them guns altogether.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes it should. Why do people need guns when leaving in such a protected place. in Japan here, the place is calming and not attacks can be heard, why not drop down those guns and make a world the calming place.

The gun laws are outdated I myself am not American, but In my opinion guns should be banned, or have very strict laws placed on them. I know the other side goes on about having "a right to bare arms", which is all well and good, but having studied american history, it is easy to see that the main reason guns and possibly the creed "a right to bare arms" itself existed as America was an incredibly lawless place at one time, and so people needed to have their own means of protection. But we're in the 21st century now, leave protection to those who's jobs it is to protect people, people who are well-trained like police officers etc.

Simply, America's obsession with guns is little more than paranoia and a fear of change, and while some individuals may offer compelling arguments of why the law should stay, it's undeniable that a majority are simply afraid of change.

Side: Yes
1 point

This debate topic should be come and solved more early than today. It's already late to ban the guns. Most of the poeple in America are having the gun to protect themselves. If the gun law is abolished, however, it's absolute that some poeple wouldn't give their gun to government. This will occur pople to increase their anxiety.

Side: Yes
KangHeeMin(2) Disputed
1 point

This debate topic should be come and solved more early than today. It's already late to ban the guns. Most of the poeple in America are having the gun to protect themselves. If the gun law is abolished, however, it's absolute that some poeple wouldn't give their gun to government. This will occur pople to increase their anxiety.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Fireworks are banned because they are dangerous, likewise, guns should be banned.

Side: Yes

It is now 2015 and the gun violence continues to rise. Ban guns!

Side: Yes

The gun violence is America has to stop! I wish guns were banned in America.

Side: Yes
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Leave the country.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

It is now 2015 and the gun violence continues to increase in America. This is an American Shame!

Side: Yes

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a startling revelation for 2015. It is projected that deaths from guns will surpass deaths from car fatalities in 2015. An estimated 33,000 Americans will lose their lives from guns as opposed to an estimated 32,000 Americans who will die in car accidents.

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Side: Yes
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Guns kill America is the most violent, most incarcerated country why we have the most guns

Side: Yes
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How many kids need to die before we get it?

2. Protect against what?

In some cases, the killer has taken the victim's gun and killed them.

3. It's outdated.

Seriously, when this law was written the were no automatic machine guns, the guns were heavy and hard to use, Native Americas were still attacking, and Slavery was still legal.

4. Humans "Flight or Fight" response.

You're more likely to defend yourself with a kitchen knife than running all the way to your safe and doing the combination, you'd be a goner.

5. Guns kill more people than any other weapon, and are a lot harder to defend against.

You way way more likely to survive one stab wound physically unharmed than a gun shot wound. Plus, you still have a chance to defend yourself against a knife, how do you defend yourself against a gun?

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Side: Yes
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To me this is a clear cut decision and I believe wholeheartedly they should be banned for many reasons actually. Contrary to popular belief they do actually kill people imagine if that shooter didn't have a gun and had to walk around using brunt force to kill people how many less victims there would be involved. How many lives banning guns could save. What kind of world do we live in that a young adult can go and buy a gun or be allowed access to something as dangerous as a gun yet god forbid if they drink alcohol or even watch porn before they're allowed.

Others say it's a way of defending yourself yet surely there are plenty of other less bloodthirsty methods to protect oneself from attack as opposed to carrying around a gun.

The people behind the guns kill these people not the guns themselves yet we are the society and world that allow these mentally unstable criminals reek havoc on our world with guns but oh don't worry because they're a criminal they were always going to kill someone maybe we should be profiling other peoples weird impulses and needs to own a gun what thrill do you get from this? Honestly it baffles me.

Now i'm fully expecting the 2nd Amendment argument but that was put into place in the 1700's we're in the 21st century wake up people. Not only that but The 2nd Amendment and the "Right to bear arms" was only approved to prevent others from entering property and committing treason. A time when the "police" were not so wide spread as it is today. So surely we no longer need weapons such as guns.

Not only do I believe guns should be banned for moral reasons but also the statistics back me up In 2012 the number of gun related violent crimes per 100,000 was 10.2 or one per every 10,000 people, which based on the current population means that almost 32,000 Americans were gun crime victims. Now imagine if there were no gun's? Better yet imagine f that was your family member a victim of a school shooting or a criminal shooting them simply because they could get their hands so easily on a gun.

Side: Yes
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Since few years we have been witnessing incidents which support my argument. Murder of school children's can't be justified. Guns being a lethal tool with a minor , who has no knowledge of its consequences is a dangerous game to play. Why do American need guns . We have police to protect us . It's the gun mafia who doesn't want guns to be banned as they make money out of it.

Side: Yes
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Side: Yes

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Side: Yes
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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Side: yes
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To argue one side or the other, in terms in single events, is silly. The argument is death, because of the nature of a gun. Rarely is it so one sided. Why do people fixate on one topic? To focus on one issue as the core is illogical.

1) First note, yes, guns can kill people, but ultimately people kill people. Basic logic. This is an argument of purpose and existence. Just because something exists doesn't mean it has purpose, and if an object has purpose it has existence. What is the purpose of the firearm? Many. Yes, killing is one of them, but there are so many others (for example, the enjoyment of shooting large pumpkins...and yes, I do). Equally so, I could argue that as a human, you were created to breed and kill on the whole in order to survive as the fittest, but modern theories and cognition seem to provide a greater degree of purpose to humanity. Of course, most of it is BS.

2) Equating lower crime rates due to the ban of guns is absurd. Japan has a peaceful society because after World War 2, and as terms of their surrender, many impositions were put on them. As such, the country turned inward and began the foundation of modern Japan. Make no mistake, guns or not, the Japanese were not exactly the epitome of peace up until recent times. The idea of self is not priority to the Japanese. Subsequently, this level of stress in Japan has given them the highest suicide rate in the world. Death by gun? probably not. Death by , sure! Key topic here, death.

The UK with it's gun ban has seen a healthy increase in knife violence. From what I also read, gun crimes actually went up as well (yes, the nasty black market). But if you look at most statistics, the majority of these crimes are concentrated in heavily populated areas (this seems to corroborate with worldwide trends.). See my argument #1...people kill people, especially when you cram them in a small, stinky space. Human nature. Take away one thing, we'll either find it another way or find a substitute.

3) The Constitution. The right to bear arms has been beaten to death. The 2nd amendment was created in order to have a readily available militia, amongst a other minor things. Home defense? sure, why not. The gun nuts (and I do own guns) tend to use this as a giant hammer, crying to the call of freedom. Ridiculous. Get over it. It's ok to say "I shoot guns because it's fun and makes me happy". No shame in that.

The ultimate issue is a Pandoras box, which actually applies to all kinds of ideas and objects. An idea or object is released to the world, and we want to tuck it away never to be seen again. This is setting everyone up for failure. Conceptually, it's like making a statement to a group of people, then retracting it...not exactly the solution.

Guns should be legal, but reform should take place. Emphasis higher education as a requirement (as in mandatory classes), mandatory firing instruction (as in, mandatory classes), and mandatory testing of such (book and field) before you can purchase a firearm. Education people, that is the key to anything.

Will this solve the occasional gun crazies out there? no. But if you are spending your time worrying about the typical Columbine or Virginia Tech stories, get over it. You're more likely to die from a car collision than getting shot.

Yes, I'll hear "You say that because it didn't happen to you", or "your wasn't shot at the grocery store". You are correct, and it's a luxury I have. It's called objectivity.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I would love to live in a world where we didnt need nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, we do. Yes, most of Europe wants to give them up, but what aboout North Korea? What about Iran? If those 2 countries ever got one and one that worked. Iran is trying to make one, dont believe all that uranium is just for nuclear power. Ahmideinejhad himself said once he has nuclear capabilities, he would use them. N Korea tried launching some of their own. Thank god they didnt work. As long as there are people out there willing to use them, everyone who has them should keep them in standby. The only defense for a nuclear attack is to send up our own nukes to intercept them, and we can.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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There are essentially two arguments for the ownership of/legality of guns in American (outside of the second amendment).

1) Protection - The argument suggests that guns protect us from dangerous individuals. The problem is that WE ARE the dangerous individuals. From accidents, to insanity, to alcohol or drug-fueled violence, we are the ones doing this damage. The best mode of protection is the removal of firearms from society.

2) Entertainment/sport - Shooting is fun. I love it. Skeet, target, and hunting are fun pastimes. I was trained as a boy to properly care for, handle, and shoot a fire arm. I was 10 years old when I shot my first .22 and I was hooked. I would love to pass these skills onto my son, but not at the cost of so much death and destruction caused by the improper use of guns. I would rather pass on a safer society.

I've heard all of the arguments and both sides are certainly passionate about their beliefs. Here are some of my rebuttals to common counter-arguments.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people: absolutely true, but guns allow people to kill people with greater efficiency, which is not necessarily a good thing outside of the battlefield.

If guns are outlawed, only outlaws would have guns: Actually, not true. Outlaws and law enforcement would have guns.

Criminals will find ways to get guns: True, but the supply will be much lower the demand much higher, thus making it more expensive, thus more difficult, to get a gun.

Side: Yes
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You are absolutely wrong about the second amendment being put in place to prevent a British invasion or coup. It was put in place partially to allow the creation of militias. You're also wrong about guns making crime rates go higher, take a look at Switzerland. Men there are required to own automatic weapons and yet they have next to no crime rate. Their lack of a standing army is what was originally for seen for the United States, or a system similar. A small standing army to form the core of a greater force in times of war. That is what the second amendment implies.

Obviously you know little about guns, a shotgun is probably one of the least threatening weapons to people. Their limited range for their weight and length makes them impractical for crime, but perfect for the defense of ones home.

The guns aren't the problem its people and don't start blaming poverty, or education. Just because you're poor doesn't mean that you have to kill someone to improve your life. There are many ways to do that. So long as guns exist people will always find a way to acquire them. By reducing the number of honest, law abiding citizens with the capability to protect themselves from these criminals you're asking for a breakdown of order.

But I diverge from the topic at hand. Point is only an idiot points a gun anywhere near a person they don't want to kill. There's no such thing as a gun related accident, gun related deaths almost always are caused by carelessness or stupidity or both.

Supporting Evidence: Switzerland and the gun (news.bbc.co.uk)
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Guns don't kill people, stupid people with guns kill people.

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volker48(6) Disputed
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You make a good point pvtNobody, but at the bottom of the article in your supporint evidence it reads: "It has none of the social problems associated with gun crime seen in other industrialised countries like drugs or urban deprivation." Thus, I don't know if comparing the Swiss to the US with respect to guns is appropriate.

Side: Yes
xaeon(1095) Disputed
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Switzerland has a gun death rate of 6 in 100,00. America has a gun death rate of just over 10 in 100,000. England outlawed all handguns and has a 0.6 per 100,000 gun death rate. [1] The facts are pretty clear that in countries where guns are allowed, more people are shot and killed.

In 1999, there were 28,874 gun-related deaths in the United States - over 80 deaths every day. In 1999, 58% of all gun deaths were suicides, and 38% were homicides. Of all suicides, 57% occurred by firearm. In 2000, 75,685 people (27/100,000) suffered non-fatal firearm gunshot injuries.

What, exactly, is the point of guns? The fact of the matter is that America has a culture where guns are OK, and the only thing that is ever going to do is mean a great increase in gun crime. Guns are pointless in this day and age.

Side: Yes
ta9798(316) Disputed
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Yes i could have phrased it better. You are right about the militias but what was the purpose of them? who were they supposed to defend against, not just the british but they were certainly a worry? We have a standing army so why do we need a militia as well?

I'm not a gun expert i agree but i also know that shotguns arn't the most dangerous weapons. Yet what reason does anyone have to own a shotgun? I included shotguns because i feel that there is no justification for owning one not that i thought they were very dangerous.

I'm not saying poor people resort to guns what i am saying is that poverty destroys people's lives and creates an atmosphere of fear. There are poor people who are living the best they can with what society has thrown at them. criminals or gangs might try to recruit the poor since they say they offer a better life. because of society the poor might feel that they don't have much hope and that being in a criminal organization might help to raise them. i understand that most of the poor don't do this but there are a few, especially in a city.

a large reason for our higher violence rates is our society and maybe not the presence of guns alone but guns make it easier.

just because a group in one area are able to control gun violence(like Switzerland) does not mean that a group somewhere else is.

"There's no such thing as a gun related accident, gun related deaths almost always are caused by carelessness or stupidity or both." and thus wouldn't that be an accident? maybe only an idiot does point a gun near someone they don't want to kill there are still a few idiots in this world with access to guns.

i understand your points about self defense and i think it is the only and strongest reason for not banning guns yet what guns are you talking about? do you think we should be allowed to own semi-automatics?

a lot of the recent gun deaths in the news were when people were not at home. such as at Virgina Tech, do you think people should be able to carry guns to class or in public? what i'm trying to say is if you have a shotgun at home yet are confronted when you're away from home how much use is that shotgun?

lastly i talked about education and poverty because most of the criminals are people who have been treated not well by society. there are those high level gangs that did well but where did they begin what reason did they have to go down such a path? there are too many gun deaths and while there will never be a ban in America i find it appalling that so many fight to prevent gun restrictions and background checks.

Side: Yes
dude2288(39) Disputed
1 point

Ever heard of target shooting or hunting? Also what if you have a varmint problem? And even if you ban guns criminals can still buy guns illegally and then the only people with guns would be criminals...and the police, but what if the police aren't around shouldn't you have the right to defend yourself? Also guns don't mean that people are more likely to commit crime or even kill people. Look at Switzerland, they have the second highest gun ownership rate in the world (second only to the USA), and a large percentage of those are government issued assault rifles, yet they have a much lower crime rate than the US. The problem isn't guns it's poverty and lack of education we should be working on those instead of blaming guns for all our problems.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
smartman(1) Disputed
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Shot guns are used for many different application a few of which are bird hunting like pheasant or ducks, they can also be used for trap and skeet shooting. Another thing shotguns have a maximum shot distance of 30 yards so they aren't that good of a weapon. Also semi-automatic weapons have various uses and when you are hunting fast animals you want to be able to take as many shots as possible without having to cock the gun. Another point is that a gun is a tool and the person is the one who kills someone not the gun. And it is now required to take firearm safety to purchase or use a gun and also 80% of guns used in crimes are bought illegally according to the FBI.

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NeverShine(39) Disputed
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"The british aren't going to invade, so we don't need to protect ourselves". So when an american enters you're home with intent to kill, are you going to defend yourself with a fork? I do agree that most burglary's that occur do not involve a murder or serious injury, but not all home invasion's are with the intent to remove your property. If I we're in the position to put my life on the line, or lose a television, I would rather lose the television. The question is whether this person is here to steal my property or harm me or my family. I would rather have the means to protect myself and my family. If we lived in a perfect world where we didn't have Poverty, Drugs and Poor Education, then maybe I could see youre point. The fact of the matter is we don't. When America gets to the point where I can go to sleep at night, or even go about my daily business and not worry, then I'll consider getting rid of my gun. Until then, we live in a dangerous world where people live outside the law and I feel safe knowing theres an amendment granting me the right to defend myself.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Strongly agree! "If guns were against the law only criminals would own one."

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
way875(1) Disputed
1 point

Man where are you coming from, what about CHINA, have you studied the size of their military force, it is not to defend themselves.

Are you are a control freak, I can read into your writings, into power, or YOU have access to any weapon you want and want to keep that control from everyone else.

I wish you lived in a location struck by the Huricane, you could defended all those folks which was raped and killed in the hospitals, in our own country. You can bet you would have disarmed them as well.

You cant stop guns, or crimes, or even drugs. I am also a cop but not a control freak.

You should be DEFENDING the Constitution not burning it down.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
-4 points
wowbob396(9) Disputed
2 points

Wow, if someone was robbing my house with a gun I wouldn't be playing High Noon with them....

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
keenkevin(1) Disputed
1 point

Better than playing dead... After all dead men have trouble forming coherent sentences

Side: yes
OTdarters(40) Disputed
1 point

After sifting through the grammatical errors, I believe I have found the point you intended to make.

The reality of statistics reveals that the UK's violent crime rate is far higher than that of the US. The UK has effectively disarmed its responsible citizens, but done nothing to limit the black market of arms that criminals are utilizing to perpetrate the crimes. The result is that the criminals have a much safer job than they would if responsible citizens were armed.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

FINALLY. Someone who pointed out that violent crimes in Europe ARE HIGHER. Good lord. Stop listening to propaganda. In fact BBC recently did a report on how crime has gotten worse.

Get y'alls head out of the sand. Europe's moving away from government intervention. Were moving toward it. Europe's starting to realize that gun control fails. Were moving towards it. Why do we not look across the pond and realize how much it sucks? High crime, and high unemployment.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
-8 points
OTdarters(40) Disputed
3 points

You state that guns are a tool that increases the ease with which a crime may be committed. But do any responsible gun owners succumb to rage and utilize the tool that they carry for protection of themselves and others to kill someone? Aren't those feelings of rage and hate we feel internally slightly exaggerated? Would any sane, responsible person be able to act externally upon irritation, even with a tool readily available, to kill someone? I think not. Serial killers and criminals buy their tools to kill. Responsible gun owners, the ones that follow all laws regulating gun ownership, will not use the guns they acquired for a wholly distinct and opposite purpose to kill or hurt others.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
genericguy(30) Disputed
3 points

Responsible gun owners simply don't come into it. Serial killers and criminals buy their tools to kill. True, but if they couldn't buy guns, then they would do alot less damage.

Side: Yes
Jits(13) Disputed
0 points

The responsible gun owners that you are talking about, might not necessarily THEMSELVES using guns. Womens and even CHILDREN in those houses feel like using those deadly toys and even try shoot at someone. I am not saying all this in fluke. Just click on the evidence below.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE4DD1031F933A15754C0A965958260

After reading this, you might raise another point that the owners should be responsible and keep guns away and keep them safe.BLAH BLAH!

But, then just answer this, ISN'T IT BETTER NOT TO BUY GUNS RATHER THAN BUYING AND HIDING IT FROM WRONG HANDS?

Side: Yes
domlpz1(15) Disputed
2 points

"Presence of guns around us just provide an acceleration to this kind of a thinking and encourages us to act upon him and kill that person."

All that means is there is two less idiots in the world. Wait let me rephrase that, one less idiot and one less person that has the tendencies to commit murder.

win win in my opinion.

And Virginia Tech was not an "incident," it was a massacre. If all the students had also had guns then there is no way that asshole could have killed as many innocent people as he did. My condolensces to the families of the victims.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
1 point

I would agree with you if you can 100% control all the guns out of criminals hand, including US government. If you think the government is awesome and do everything right for you and to you, then you are blind 110% of the time, all the time, everytime. Says who? Says me, former information security engineer.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
23 points

Of course guns kill people, but that doesn't mean that they should be banned. Knives kill people, cars kill people, Big Macs kill people, but should they be banned as well?

First of all, it would be impossible to ban guns and expect that they would all be taken off the street. They are too prolific in America now and there's no turning back.

Second, guns serve a great purpose in many cases, people just need to be educated on proper gun safety. Additionally, we should do more to ensure the people who are getting guns are capable of handling them and are not likely to go kill someone with it.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
kk0bbr(28) Disputed
12 points

Well a gun is different than big macs and knives, because a gun was solely designed to kill things. And when someone says guns don't kill people, people do, that's like saying pencils don't draw, people do. You draw with a pencil. You kill with a gun.

It would be impossible to get rid of guns. Of course it would be a bad thing because people love their guns for hunting, killing, etc. If your "great purpose" of guns is death, than yes, they do serve a purpose. It's my personal belief that violence and hate only results in more violence and hate. If America stopped killing people, no one would hate us.

The two reasons why people use guns in America:

1. Get things like money, power, respect (kill people, hold up stores, stuff like that)

2. Protect us from each other because we want money, power, etc. If we all had equal money, power, and respect, there wouldn't be any competition, therefore no hate, no greed, etc.

We can outlaw guns all we want, but we're always gonna find ways to kill people. You gotta attack the root of the emotion that makes people want to use guns to make people realize gun's won't get any real work done.

Side: It doesn't make a difference
igetsyolked(20) Disputed
7 points

Na uh bum it was actually started for sporting events and protection bum. The Winchester family was wht started the killing bum. First of all bum they are normally used in a cause of rape, not robbery, robberry is ranked low in the standing bum.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Houston(187) Disputed
7 points

Your speaking like a communist. "If we all had equal money, power, and respect, there wouldn't be any competition, therefore no hate, no greed, etc."

If guns were never invented people would use bows, knives and swords to kill people.

The two reasons why people use guns in America:

1. Get things like money, power, respect (kill people, hold up stores, stuff like that)

2. Protect us from each other because we want money, power, etc. If we all had equal money, power, and respect, there wouldn't be any competition, therefore no hate, no greed, etc.

Weird, last I heard, people hunt animals with guns.

"You draw with a pencil. You kill with a gun."

You can also draw with a pen, and kill with a knife. Guns and pencils are tools, they have similar tools that can do the same purpose, too. It's the people who pull the trigger, stab the blade, draw on the paper, etc.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ceee(3) Disputed
7 points

happnen cheif xx so what do you think about guns x i think that they are great & i love shootin mine in all directions xx

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
trabb22(6) Disputed
5 points

Alright were talking about America we dont like socialism in America.

And for the record people use guns for sport and for hunting.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
cpsemperfi(2) Disputed
5 points

Sorry but that is bull. Guns are already written into our history and there's no going back after over 200 years of supporting guns just because some people who weren't properly trained in the use and safety of properly handling a firearm. If guns are taken off the market it wont stop people who seek to cause trouble get their hands on a gun, yes it may make it a little more difficult but in the end you are just disarming good citizens who no longer have the ability to defend themselves. And people own guns for more than the two reasons you listed. I own a rifle for hunting, shotgun for bird season, sidearm for personal defense, another sidearm for just shooting and a 22. rifle for the same reason. people have been killing since the beginning of time, before it was guns it was swords, blunt weapons, bows, hell even rocks and bones. Eventually the primary source of inflicting harm could be another weapon or stay at the gun. my point is just outlawing one thing doesn't mean others wont find other ways of hurting one another.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
5 points

Removing guns from house hold is the worse thing you can do. Let me tell you exactly why as a Information Security Engineer (info sec / IT sec ).

1) Law abiding citizen will obey the law. Regardless if you want guns or not, criminals have ways to find one and kill you.

2) Guns equalize the situation where cops will take 5 minutes minimum to bring some body bags to your house. You either want to use that body bag or you don't.

3) Guns in America was not meant for hunting as a primary purpose. It is your second amendment right / duty to have one as our founding fathers have seen how government abuses its power to fellow citizens. Government should serve people, not the other way around.

4) People kill people , not tools kill people. You say all you want that these equipment make it easier for bad people to do harmful things. However, would you also want to get rid of chances for law abiding citizen to defense themselves. If you say the cops can do it then you are delusional. They don't have the jurisdiction to even search you or run to your house to do things on your property. Go find out about the law.

5) Countries that have extremely strict gun laws don't really work well either. Japan still has high crime rates, they just hide their news. People still kill each other in many different ways.

6) I do agree with fully automatic weapons can be ridiculous since you cannot hit anything accurately and should just spread the harm. However, having a regular semi-automatic firearms should not be excluded in any state or the country. I suggest you go learn about firearms really well before you say stuff.

7) Law enforcement do agree that black rifles do not create crimes. Crimes were made by people who can't afford to have anything. They purchased cheap crappy firearms in black market anyway.

All can all. I know that the bad guys will go to your house not mine for sure. Why? Because I am ready to defend myself and my family for the right of life and freedom of speech. Do you like Commie countries? You can go to China and see how that feels.

Educate your children about firearms and proper manner in society is the key. Firearms are not the problem. US government themselves deals more than any other agencies in the world. Go figure!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
FckUAmerican(1) Disputed
4 points

Your point was valid till you thought we should all be commys. = things never work out geez ya scrub...........

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Commandrew22(3) Disputed
2 points

You're so right. Let's say we ban guns. All of the law-abiding citizens lawfully hand them over and are now left weaponless, and they return home. BUT, the criminals who go under the radar and keep them are the only citizens armed, and guess what! Crime goes UP, because out of all the people who actually need guns to defend themselves, none of them have any. The point of guns, you're correct, is to kill people. But which people? BAD people who already HAVE them. SELF-DEFENSE. It's a necessary evil. I know some people love to daydream about a happy world where we all hold hands and sing songs in fields of clover with double rainbows enriching the sky, but guess what! It will never be that way. Sad day. There will always be bad people and you'll always have to protect yourself.

But you might say, "We can just FORCE the criminals to hand them over!" Well, number one...how? You go find them? Most of the good ones aren't even in government records. Let's say you do find them. Now what? He's got a gun and so do the police. More people die, which is the opposite of what we intended in the first place. #2, let's say you somehow magically accomplished the mission. Now the only people in society who have guns are the police. And what do we call that? Auschwitz! Yes!

So we can't just ban guns, we can't force them out of the hands of everyone, and we certainly can't take them from the police, too. So the only option? Leave it be and trust the wisdom of our founding fathers. We all need guns at some point. Villains who want them to shoot innocents, and heroes who want them to shoot the villains.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
jake117(5) Disputed
1 point

The reason some extreme Islamic people hate America is because they see us as the center of the Atheistic western world. They would hate us whether we kill them or not.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
monseiurpug(26) Clarified
0 points

I agree with @kk0bbr's argument all except for point number two. If there we equal money, power and respect, the world would be chaos.

Let's start with if there was equal money. If there was equal money, many would not be content as greed is a large part in human nature, and the end result would be an even more imbalanced society as there would not be both rich and poor people to balance the scale, simply rich people and average earners.

Next, if there was equal power. If there was equal power, the America would be a state of anarchy, resulting in uncivilization and no rules/laws for citizens to follow. If people made rules, they would have more power, resulting in a big jolt for the economy and the state of everyday activities.

And last, if people had equal respect, we would have no-one to aspire to be like, no idol for us to follow the path of. We would be the same in a way. Also, it is impossible to keep everyone equally respected due to the fact that people engage in activities, which may decrease or elevate your level of respect given from others.

Overall, I agree that it would not make a difference.

Side: Yes
khOOl(2) Disputed
6 points

Guns do not kill people . A gun doesn't have a mind of its own . A gun can not pull it's trigger by itself . There has to be a person on the other hand to pull that trigger . That person kills people not the gun . On the other hand every thing else you said I totally agree with you .

Side: yes
Jits(13) Disputed
4 points

Firstly, knives and cars are not commonly used to murder people. Cars just cause accidents, that is not the reason why cars should be banned. GUNS ARE A SURE WAY TO FINISH PEOPLE OFF! AND ANYONE CAN USE THEM TO KILL OTHERS, that is the reason why guns should be banned.

Secondly, how do guns serve a great purpose, as you said, in many cases? They help to kill somebody we hate? Well! that is badly justified!!

Moreover, there is no way of ensuring that the people who are getting guns are capable of handling them and are not likely to go kill someone with it.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
7 points

mmm, I agree with your first two points, however just because stupid people obtain guns is no reason to ban them. Stupid people are voted for all the time (you know who I mean) but does that justify preventing the election process?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
rocknwow(77) Disputed
7 points

Jits

Firstly, knives and cars are not commonly used to murder people.

Both are used to 'murder' people all the time. It is true that guns are responsible for the majority of murders but knives are number two and cars are considered weapons by the police.

Your point is that Guns murder people so they should be banned. If that truly is your sole point then that's riduculous because banning guns wont stop murders. Murderers will just use something else; knives, poisons, explosives, their own hands.

Do you really think a criminal intent on killing will say to himself, "Darn, I can't kill now because guns are illegal?".

Jits. Do you collect anything, pez dispensers, baseball cards, broken hearts...anything? If you do maybe you'll be able to relate to the need for guns. Think about it.

Guns represent history. Guns represent the ingenuity of man. Guns are one of the simplest, most efficient machines ever created. Take some time to look beyond the obvious...gun kill...gun bad.

Supporting Evidence: Types of weapons used (www.infoplease.com)
Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Bornkountry(7) Disputed
3 points

You are completely ridiculous. When the world has no more evil people, violence, raping, murdering etc. I'll give up my defense firearms, until then I'll defend my right to have them and protect my family. Educate yourself.

Side: Yes
igetsyolked(20) Disputed
4 points

no guns dont kill people, people kill people. and same with the Knives, cars, and your lil Big Macs son you ah bum. Its the choice of the poeple.... Bum

Side: Yes
egga(108) Disputed
4 points

But guns make it easier to deliberately kill people. Much easier than with a knife.

P.S. I've never heard of anyone being bludgeoned with a big mac.

Side: Keep the Guns Change the System
deee(29) Disputed
4 points

.knives&cars;may kill people but it clearly isntt deliberate, yes there is sometimes hit&runs;but there are more gun deaths than anything. BAN GUNS NOW !!!!!

Side: yes
trabb22(6) Disputed
8 points

If today we were to ban guns all the law abiding citizens would give up their firearms and protection. Guess what? The criminals wouldn't give up their guns and they would have a field day breaking into stores,banks, and homes. And when you are the on laying on the floor and watching your possessions being stolen and your family raped and killed without anything to defend yourself then its on you. If you live in some fantasy that the world is perfect and the police can always protect on a moment notice you can pretend whatever you want. Us on the other hand want some protection.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
josiejump1(18) Disputed
4 points

,disagree mate!xx people dae it delibrately ya stupid person. why else d'yi hink it's called murderrrrr!xxxx

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Derek(11) Disputed
3 points

There are most certainly NOT more gun deaths than anything. In fact, cars kill more people than guns do. Look up a fact or two before you hit submit.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
poip2000(1) Disputed
3 points

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Side: Yes
FckUAmerican(1) Disputed
3 points

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Side: Yes
vandebater(444) Disputed
3 points

guns don't kill people; nu uh; I kill people "chk chk" with guns, POW

Side: Yes
vandebater(444) Disputed
3 points

the difference is that a guns purpose is to kill while a big macs is to eat, a knives is to cut and a cars is to drive. I don't believe guns should be banned but they should be MUCH harder to get

Side: Yes
1 point

Only law-abiding people follow gun-control laws. The criminals don't.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
shattermike(9) Clarified
1 point

True, big macs do kill people.... but yeah, if guns were banned then police wouldn't have a weapon.

Side: Yes
Jamiethclown(27) Disputed
1 point

some say guns are ok if you follow procedure. In the UK we have a proceedurre. After some idiot shot up a school, we said, 'Guns are to be kept under lock and key outside an official hunt or target practice venue. Even then, you must be a member of a club. The ammo is to be kept separate under the same security. Guns are not to be used for self defence except by the police. So far that has worked. Nobody else shot up a school. Nobody has tried to run amock with a kitchen knife against 300 kids. We have had the odd decommissioned gun being used to kill, but since those were not high powered automatic weapons, the damage is tiny compared to the per capita gun deaths in the USA. Other homicides are also much smaller in number. Those automatic guns really push up the death toll. If you really want less people killed through guns, and this will definitely result in fewer killings, I can thoroughly recommend an outright ban on firearms.

Side: Yes
1 point

Of course guns kill people

Guns are not sentient beings, thus they do not hold the capability to kill. The gun is an object; the person is the one who manipulates it.

but should they be banned as well?

All of those things require some amount of outside stimuli to kill a person. They cannot do things by themselves.

Overall I agree with you, but you're wrong in saying that guns kill people.

Side: Yes
Stilrelavent(17) Disputed
1 point

What are the purpose of guns? To kill, self-defense maybe. They have no other purpose and with a weapon that lethal still allowed is crazy. I mean sure you have to be open minded when it come to this big topic, guns don’t kill people the people do, however if you take away the guns from the people they become harmless, even with other weapons. Guns aren’t the only weapons out there but they are still the most harmful especially since they aren’t banned in America. Why is it that school shootings are so common in America because teens have easy access to guns, I mean in some parts of America you can go to your local Walmart and buy a guns so... what’s to say that the crime rate in America won’t go down if guns were banned, or at least less manufactured and harder to come by. And trying to get rid of the problem by teaching people how to use guns safely is not giving a solution to this entire problem because weapons are gonna be weapons and most people won’t even care for these regulations. Just like some people won’t care if guns were to be banned. Guns banned or not it’s up to the nation to decide weather this is an issue that will be resolved or just continue being an issue. Now some people would argue that guns are not to blame if not gang culture and lots of other things that influence crime rate in America... I don’t know what do you think?

Guns in America vs. The rest of the World
Side: Yes
Stilrelavent(17) Disputed
1 point

There are always exceptions to everything. So when people say “guns kill and not people”. I can’t believe how narrow-minded that statement is. Not only are there exceptions but the majority of people handling a gun in particular will eventually end up using it for its soul purpose to kill… why do people keep comparing guns with knifes, bows, and other weapon? It’s as if guns can be compared with a knife, knives are actually pretty wholesome if you think about it, because it’s used for cooking while guns are pretty gruesome since their mainly used to hunt. I think you can see where I’m getting at. Knives don’t pose as much a threat as guns, I think that’s common sense. As well as cars and Big Macs, because these things are not causing your life to be in immediate danger. Of course I can be contradicting my self but at least I’m willing to accept the other options. Whereas others will never begin to believe that guns are truly harmful. And that stubborn thinking process is why America is the way it is. I hope things start to change.

Side: Yes
14 points

I thought that this was pertinent and rather interesting. I thought I'd submit it to see if it got any reaction.

“The Beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try and take it.” Thomas Jefferson

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
phuqster(123) Disputed
6 points

That was almost a good point, I was totally against guns before and that nearly dented my opinion.

But then I couldn't help but wonder whether his (Jefferson's) views on the matter would be the same if he could have foreseen the future of "arms". That is: mass commoditisation of personal weaponry. The lethality and diminutive nature of such weaponry. The rate of fire of these weapons and the speed of reloading. And whether he'd consider it still pertinent when the government owns and deploys tanks, HMGs and fighters on home soil. Which of course, in order to remove such a government, would require not just pistols and other personal weaponry but at least RPGs and SAMs.

I wonder whether (wish) he would have restricted it (the 2nd amendment) to contemporary weaponry of his time, that is: "muskets (36+ inches long) and single shot pistols".

But now I am not 100% for a total ban, as I'd love to see "Cops" the TV show with them running around with huge heavy muskets and taking 20+ seconds to reload their pistols. Also Columbine would have gone from un-fucking-believable horror to almost sublime comedy.

Side: Yes
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
3 points

phuqster, you have to understand that it was created to defend yourself for thugs, including the evil government. So you really think that what is available is evil vs what is available in military? Go figure.

Only stupid, ignorant, selfish, crazy people kill fellow citizens. With those, they would be put away anyways. I also support shoot on the spot if you see a killing spree or someone is robing a bank. I think that would work really well.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
qwertyii(3) Disputed
1 point

i disagree it was explosives than and its faster firing weapons now its not as easy as video games make it out to be to kill such a large number of people recoil is a big concern and if your a few degrees off its a miss additionally full auto weaponry is very hard to aim when in full auto and is rarely used by any competent soldiers also it was retarded to ban bumps tocks as the shooter would probably have killed more people without one

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
13 points

THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO

THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION

The right to keep and bear arms.

I, for one, am happy to know that I live in a democratic nation that has a fail safe built into it. If it were to fail, be over run by a tyrant or whatever the case, if it were to fail, I would have a fighting chance, and so would my peers.

I think disturbing the constitution is a bad idea, especially when we're talking about something like the 2nd amendment. If you touch the constitution, and at the same time, strip the people of it's property, and the property of which could help protect them in dire situations, you're going to have a reason to amend the constitution again because there will be a revolt. You know what I mean? You are changing the game, and then you are making it to where it's harder to keep fair if they wanted to change it again, and on top of all of that, it's not a belief that's being taken from them, like the belief of freedom, it's a material possession that has the power to defend itself, while in the right hands.

Tobacco, which I am all too familiar with, was responsible for 18.1% of deaths in the U.S. in year 2000. 435,000 deaths in 2000 compared to firearm related deaths at 29,573 in 2001.

Look at the difference there! 405,427 more people died by smoking than being shot...

What do cigarettes do to protect the citizens from each other or the government? I would have to say, only calm one down a little for a short amount of time and make their fight weaker and more difficult to endure.

If we're going to do anything concerning the second amendment, it should be to teach gun safety in classes as a sort of D.A.R.E. like program. Just because we teach people about drugs doesn't mean they'll seek them out, this should be the same with firearms.

I do think that we need to keep guns off of the streets, but this isn't a gun issue, it's a fairly complex societal issue.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
9 points

I would like to add that we are a constitutional republic.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
11 points

If you look at history, the first thing empire's do to have total control is to disarm it's citizens.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ta9798(316) Disputed
8 points

Yes that might be true but are you suggesting that we should be allowed to carry semi-automatics or greater weapons? If our government wants to control us with force they are not going to use pistols and hunting rifles, they will use the military and they use far more powerful weapons. the only way the people could successfully counter that is with weapons of near equal or greater power than what would be deployed by the military or non-violent movement such as the Indian Non-violence peace movement to overthrow the British Empire in India.

Side: Yes
pvtNobody(645) Disputed
13 points

You argue that the caliber of the weapon is the only factor in a fight. While this is a significant factor it is not the only one. Tactics and training are in many ways more important.

Finally the reason why the only reason why the Indian non-violence movement succeeded was because the British Empire chose not to use force. When you discuss a military actively engaging in suppression of resistance you've passed the point where non-violent resistance will work.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
dude2288(39) Disputed
11 points

Ever heard of the Vietnam war, or the 1973 Afghanistan war?

Both had poorly trained, poorly armed forces defeating the two most powerful militaries of their time. Also high tech weapons and training are only a small part in winning a war, if it wasn't don't you think the Iraqi insurgencies would have lost by now? My point is: in a war between the US Army and the American people the army would have a very hard time even if the people only had hunting rifles and pistols.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
way875(1) Clarified
2 points

If every household which meet criteria was mandated to be armed with high level weaponry, it would increase the security of the USA.

Watch sons of Guns, they have it right but that is rare in our society.

We would fight back any threat, and may lose but at least we would fight rather than hide because of being disarmed.

Side: Yes
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
1 point

Therefore we should have those rifles and ready for gorilla warfare. That's how Afghanis' win the war. But, I know for sure that US government won't let it get to that point. 1, military personal will side with constitution, at least 80% of them. 2, government won't do anything stupid that won't really get money from our tax dollar. Therefore, they won't wage war with citizens. However, you do need those rifles to keep the government in check for your own safety.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
5 points

Do you realize your talking about empires, which existed hundreds of years ago, when there weren't "hardcore" gangsters and a black market, people abided by the rules or wouldnt have life.

Side: yes
2 points

that argument makes sense only if u say that u believe America will have some civil war if it lost it's GUNS or that in some stupid way America can only prevent its self from turning into a totalitarian state if it has guns...

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ckames(27) Disputed
7 points

That is exactly the argument and is the rationale behind the 2nd Amendment.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
10 points

Outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ananas(1) Disputed
1 point

Good poetry but outlaws are not the only problem.

You haven´t tought about massacres in schools, have you? These pupils shooting around would definitly thing about what they ´re actually doing if it would´t be this easy to get guns.This would prevent many children from dying!

Side: Yes
9 points

Guns don't kill people, poeple kill people. The vast majority of people who commit gun crimes obtain their wepons illegally in the first place, so if guns are taken from the law abideing citizens, you'll have a situation where the outlaws will have guns and the sane people who should be allowed to have guns will be defenseless. also it shifts the balance of power in favor of the politicians instead of the citizenry. It's just one more step towards tyranny. This country started by shooting the poeple who tried to supress us. We can't allow our government to become the very thing we killed to escape from in the first place. Do you really want the politicians to have complete control of you lives?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
8 points

Freedom was won with guns...

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
frenchieak(1132) Disputed
5 points

And freedom can be lost with guns in the wrong hands. It works both way.

Side: yes
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
7 points

Key word:

"in the wrong hands."

Yeah its possible for a maniac to get ahold of a gun, but its also possible for a maniac to get in the drivers seat of a car. (see my post)

Perhaps we should ban cars in America?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
7 points

Not too long ago I would have, without hesitation said yes. But given the drift in this country to more and more centralization of power in the presidency I am not so sure. I wonder about forces such as Blackwater; is this destined to be a private force of the executive?

What if McCain is elected? He believes in 'winning the war' on terrorism. I believe he will naturally seek to exert increased control over security to the detriment of constitutional safeguards of liberty.

It may take ordinary citizens, armed, to ultimately defend our Constitution. Our Founding Fathers fought against linger odds.

It reminds of something I once read --- what if every Jew in Hitler's Germany killed one SS troop as he came to arrest him? The number of Jews vastly outnumbered the German SS.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
7 points

Gun control laws simply don't work. Just look at the violent crime rates of areas with strict gun control laws, such as Washington D.C. and the U.K. (both of which have gun bans). Then compare it to areas with less gun control laws, such as Texas and Arizona (where concealed carry permits are fairly easy to obtain). The difference is huge because criminals are far less likely to commit a crime if they think that the victim could be armed.

Their was also a study (I don't have the link handy) that showed that the majority of violent crimes involving guns, the gun that was used by the criminal was obtained illegally. That's what criminals do, they break the law. If someone is really going to commit a crime with a gun, then why would they choose to obey any gun control laws?

I believe that Thomas Jefferson said it best when he said, "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
7 points

I've been on both sides of this argument and I can certainly sympathize with the respective positions.

I've always found it interesting that liberal argument on gun control is seen to be derived from a presupposition that individuals cannot act responsibly with the possession of firearms while at the same time assuming that collective bodies of individuals (such as our federal government) can be or is a organization that will responsibly conduct legislation and execute public policy and laws to the betterment of the public good.

On the other side, the conservative argument proceeds from both the standpoint that the individual can act responsibly with a firearm and/or (agreeing somewhat with the liberal basis) does not want to be found without a firearm in the company of irresponsible individuals who are carrying guns. It is also interesting that the former basis for the conservative argument assumes that the right to bare arms is the responsible individuals right to protect themselves against a hypothetical attack or control of an irresponsible collective body of individuals (a empire or dictatorship or oppressive government.)

To a certain extent, you have to identify the motive driving your position, whether it be fear of our government or trust in our government, and determine the extent to which that motive might be hindering your ability to critically evaluate the opposing argument fairly in light of your own.

Personally, I don't think banning the purchase and use of firearms in the United States will do anything to lessen the crime rates in our country. As has been stated already in this forum, the gun market will continue regardless of federal policy. Also, we've nurtured a culture of hopelessness and violence in our country that (while it may not be root cause of the problem) has certainly not helped the conditions that drive a person to resort to violent recourse to deal or cope with certain circumstances where better opportunities, financial security, or a better education might help them to make more responsible decisions.

I realize that I'm being horribly idealistic here (as I'm often accused of being) but I feel that a better public education system, a more dynamic economy, and a more promising future for the people of our country will do much more than taking the guns out of all the sock drawers in the U. S. of A.

And, the argument that it works in Britain fails to address the geographical size difference between North America and the British Isles, the demographic diversity, the population counts, and the cultural conflicts that distinguish the two nations.

Tighter restrictions on gun purchases and ownership are definitely necessary. A ban is not.

Side: Keep the Guns Change the System
6 points

A militia of citizens with guns will be our last line of defense in the case of a government or military coup. Properly trained and licensed civilian gun owners can protect themselves and their neighbors in the case of enemy invasion, robberies, and other crimes. Banning guns in the U.S. would be a huge mistake, plus it would piss off all the gun owners who use their weapons for hunting and sport. Additionally, it would create a huge black market for illegal (all) guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Loudacris(914) Disputed
6 points

I think you hit the nail on the head with the black market argument but do you really think that there are enough properly trained and licensed civilian gun owners to challenge the US military? There is no way the civilians could win. That argument is just silly.

Side: Yes
Lexfor(136) Disputed
7 points

Now I'm not saying that all the properly licensed and trained civilians in the U.S. would be able to stand up against the military if a coup occured. But if that did happen, many of the members of the military would get out and join the civilian population and defend the counry's interest. Not every member of the military is a brainwashed drone who will follow any order given to them without thought. But considering that there are many more civilians than there are members of the military would make things difficult for the military. Plus think about the police departments, they can provide a lot of help in a situation where civilians will need defense. It doesn't take long to train someone how to defend themselves with a gun. I think this situation would be extremely rare though.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
dcovan(170) Disputed
5 points

You look at Iraq and other urban wars and see our politically correct military doesnt really smash the revolts.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
trabb22(6) Disputed
2 points

Hey did someone say revouloutinairy war, did someone say vietnam?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Biomarine Disputed
1 point

I absolutly think there is. How many prior service members are in the us right now. WAY more than active duty.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
6 points

Greater control, yes. Banning, no.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
6 points

we need guns!! how else are we gonna shoot people that dont agree with us!!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

pure genius!!!!!!!!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
5 points

Not to change subject but to show a comparison

lets ban large Vehicle's Truck's Cars Pickups and anything that has a engine larger than a single cylinder and go's faster than 5 miles per hour because they kill people more so than guns. but that is a infringement on my liberty what liberty the pursuit of life,liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. that don't matter people are to careless to drive such a large and fast vehicle. and criminals use them to get away and to kill people with it and kids can get in them and go joy riding and hurt a lot of people. under age kids don't have a license to drive them and some adults don't either and still they drive even if it is against the law and some parents let there kids drive anyway to go to the store or what ever the law has gotten more strict but it still go's on and so dose drunk driven and a lot of other thing like drugs,theft,prostitution,gambling and so on and i don't see stopping people having Weapons or anything Elise it will just make thing worse not better responsibility and accountability is the next best thing. anything that was tried to stop has just got Worse I'm not saying make it legal for like drugs or anything like that but something ain't working right. Even when the gun law was in affect the bad guys still get there Han's on them just a few years ago in California the cops had a shoot out and the bad guy's had Band full auto weapons and bullet proof vest the cop's were out Gunned and out matched so if you want to ban all weapons because of safety then you might as well ban all things that are not safe. we all take life in our on hands when we drive a car ride a four wheeler motorcycle flying in plane's water skying boating rock climbing hiking anything any where any time you just don't know your no safer with out them thats for sure and i believe that if I'm responsible enough to fight for our country then i have the right to have any firearm i want. just as you have the right to any Vehicle or anything like that as long as your responsible for your actions and safety of all around you. now if you want to go jump off a crane with a rubber band tied to your foot thats on you or skydive motor cross and so on. I try not to tell other people how to live and i expected the same. but to tell me i don't have the right to have a weapon that is controlling my life and other's that believe in the right to have them that are law abiding people. and as i said i served my country as a lot of others here did and continue to do for you and every one here in the U.S.A.

P.S this is not directed toured any one

Person or Person's here or anywhere on this forum its just my opinion about banning or gun control if a person wants to harm you and there is no weapons to steal or bye on the black market he will make it. and a good Example is a water pipe shot gun or other type's of ballistic weapon if you don't think so look it up and there's a whole lot more things that can be made to kill with if they want what you have. look on you tube for home made weapons and explosive and you will see how easy it is to do. so just banning weapons won't work if your a bad guy. Think about it and a lot of the thing are common things you can get every day at the hardware store and store's off the shelf. and a lot of the people on you tube that are doing it is kid's the one's that get hurt the most because lack of guidance from adults and no supervision. and its Because the ban of explosives and homemade firearms. to them its illegal and exciting and dangerous.well i said about all I'm going to say.

This is to all that believes in God i hope he will bless all of you and your's may he bring peace in your hart's and keep you well. And to those who don't i still wish you well be good and safe in what ever you do in life.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
5 points

You can kill someone with a car, should cars be banned in america?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
pervezt(1) Disputed
2 points

Cars aren't WEAPONS. Anything can be used AS a weapon but that doesn't make it a weapon (meaning it's primary purpose is to kill someone).

Side: Yes
5 points

Way more people are killed each year by car crashes than by gun violence. Should we ban cars too?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

All we need is good gun control. And by "good gun control" I mean two hands on the gun ;)

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
4 points

on behalf of my hubby..............................................have an upvote!...he liked this one.;)

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Thanks. Here on CD I aim to please (just like in the bathroom). ;)

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I saw that on an IMAO t-shirt a while ago. Along with, "If you are nervous around guns, down that bottle of whiskey before going to the range" and "No matter how excited you are about buying your first gun, do not run around yelling 'I have a gun! I have a gun!'"

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

I never said I was original ;)

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
5 points

What's the government made of? People. What's the military made of? People. What's all of America made of? People.

If we can trust our government and military with automatic weapons, tanks, and explosives to defend our country, why is it we can't rely on the people of America to defend themselves?

There is only ONE cop for every 2000 people in the U.S. I believe. Congress itself said that it is not their duty to defend us as individuals, only as a whole, which is unapplicable when it comes to a robbery, rape, or murder.

Every human has the right to live. However, a "human" with a sick intent of murdering, raping, and maiming with long list of such words, is hardly what I would call a human. I call them a monster. Think, do you believe Hitler had a right to live? What about the 911 terrorists? What about Seung-Hui Cho, who laughed as he shot his victims at Virginia Tech?

The average response time for cops is a minimum of 5 minutes, with no definite maximum quota. It only takes about 5 seconds for a crime to happen, and much less for someone to be stabbed or shot to death.

Wouldn't you think if criminals have guns, you should in fact have one to defend yourself should you ever become a victim? You anti-gun people bash on gun owners who prey on the defenseless people. You, as a person against guns, are in fact helpless too, but you do not have to be. It is not complicated, guns do not take superior skill to use if they make murder so easy. I'm part of a shooting program, and in only 3 hours they taught kids as young as 7 how to safely handle weapons, and never in the 50+ years it's been around has there been an accident.

Someone once told me, "If you give the criminal what he wants, he won't kill you." Yeah really, as if EVERY criminal was after your money. Criminals have different intents, anywhere from your money to your life. Your life is a potential target no matter what the intent is. Would you rather be mangled, mutilated, and murdered or have to explain why you shot that thug in the chest? Do not misinterpret this, but there are criminals that exist who do not wish to even harm someone. However, what right and reason would they have to steal from you, scare you, threaten your life, and maybe even kill you?

Another thing someone told me, "Dude you have no chance without a gun, even with one you only have about a 3% chance." Bullsh*t. Even if it really was a 3% chance, I think I'd rather have that 3% chance to live than nothing, even the smallest percent is MORE THAN ENOUGH.

If guns are banned, do any of you think criminals or "law abiding" citizens will abide by it?

Though they may be faulty, some criminals know how to manufacture their own guns. Despite being faulty, they are still guns, and they can still kill. Therefore, in a society with outlawed weapons, a massive black market will arise with criminally manufactured weapons and weapons that already exist. The same thing is going on for marijuana, cocaine, and meth, and the method of sale and purchase is no different for guns. How? Because drugs are illegal, and if guns are too, then they will just be circulated the exact same way.

Clearly we can't trust our the people and criminals with guns, but we can trust them to follow the laws? We would ultimately create more criminals because a majority of the 90 million gun owners like myself would not abide by it.

If guns are banned, it wouldn't prevent suicide. People will just start hanging themselves or drive off a cliff.

I don't believe everyone should have a gun. Law-abiding citizens who know how to use it should. By no means should anyone who is mentally insane, a felon, or simply ignorant be able to use one. Keep in mind anti-gun people complain about accidents or tragedies that happen because someone didn't know how to use a gun. You are, in fact, one of those people who does not know how to use a gun. Therefore, you are helpless, ignorant, and have no right to tell people who do know how to use guns what to do.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
5 points

As my father always says, "Guns doesn't kill people, dad's with pretty daughters do" On a real note, I will always be packin and I don't care what no one thinks. But the gun doesn't kill anyone, its the person that decides to pull the trigger

Side: Dads
deee(29) Disputed
3 points

.daddyssssssssssssssssssssssssssss girllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll L-)

Side: yes
3 points

ahahaha agreeedddddd =))=)) !xxxxx mad tramp that she is :D !xxxxx

Side: yes
5 points

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Except, of course, when a snake squeezes the trigger.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
4 points

.are you for real ? snakes clearly cant squeeze the traigger&even;if they didi it clearly isnt all the time'xx

Side: yes
TERMINATOR(6781) Disputed
4 points

Read the news of the weird; it happens all the time.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
josiejump1(18) Disputed
1 point

ewwww? be real !! you must be trippin mate? get a lifeeeeeee.

Side: yes
TERMINATOR(6781) Disputed
3 points

Unlike you, I've both a life and a brain.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
4 points

Gun control is misguided. When guns become illegal for law-abiding citizens, only criminals will have guns. If they're already criminals, they aren't following certain laws, and will almost certainly ignore more if they desire to do so. Restrictions and bans on the availability of guns to the normal populace only encourages crime, because it allows criminals to operate with more impunity, knowing that they cannot be harmed significantly by the victim of their crime. And no matter how good the police are, they cannot cover all potential crime scenes. Law-abiding citizens carrying guns can defend themselves and others in their immediate area more completely than even the best police force. Prohibiting guns from the good guys just means that the bad guys are safer.

I do, however, believe that a mental health test should be required to receive a concealed-carry license, just to ensure that all legal gun owners have the mental faculty to ensure their own and others' safety.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
aceslick911(11) Disputed
3 points

"Only criminals have guns" thats untrue because the authorities will always also have guns and have better training, tactics as well. If criminals choose to guns then they will also deal with the consequence eventually. Gun control's main purpose is to reduce OPPORTUNITY. Guns make it quicker, easier and less painful to end life. Statistically it is proven that the availability of guns increases the chance of purposeful and accidental death.

There is no reason law-abiding citizens need to defend themselves as they are untrained, do not have full knowledge of the law and eventually cause more harm than good by owning such weapons.

The odds are against criminals and even tho gun control may never be complete, it significantly reduces the likelihood of death by firearm by lessening the chances and increasing the difficulty to acquire firearms.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
OTdarters(40) Disputed
4 points

The problem is that the police system is not efficient enough to put those superior tactics into play when they are needed most. There are too many cases in which the police never have a chance to respond to a threat before a criminal acts, but an armed citizen in the same situation could prevent the crime.

Gun control does nothing to reduce the availability of illegal arms. There is no reason for a criminal to recognize and abide by gun control laws if he/she is going to commit a violent crime anyway. Gun control doesn't reduce the opportunities for violent crime, it reduces the opportunity for a timely response by a responsible citizen who could negate the threat responsibly and quickly.

Side: Yes
3 points

Plain and Simple. Gun laws do not work places with strict guns laws are some of the most dangerous places in the nation and places like parts of Texas where guns are required are the safest. Yes I think parent should lock up there guns so children cannot get them. no one want to see a child killed but banning guns is really a bad Idea it's not good here and has been bad in the UK.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/301881_gunrebut01.html

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
RedStorm(3) Disputed
1 point

woah! what did you say? been bad in britain? im british, and very anti guns, and i find this DOWN RIGHT INSULTING! just like the US smear campaign abour the british NHS.

Lets do the maths here

UK gun related homicide in 1998 - 2000 = 14

US gun related homicide in 1998 - 2000 = 9,369

"BUT WAIT!" i hear you say! "what about the population difference!"

so lets factor in the populations and do this per capita

uk = 0.00102579 gun murders per 1,000 people

US = 0.0279271 gun murders per 1,000 people

wow, sombody was wrooong, BUT WAIT IT GETS BETTER

the results were ranked!

Uk = 32nd highest gun murders per capita

US = 8th highest gun murders per capita!

and guess what! IT WAS A 32 NATION REPORT! MEANING THE UK HAD THE LOWEST GUN CRIME RATES OF THEM ALL!

SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)

Another thought, did you ever think to REALIZE that the strong violence in strict gun law places came BEFORE the laws did? the laws are strick because the violence got bad, and the laws were made after to try to stop it.

Side: yes
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
1 point

Yeah, cause British people kill each other with something else. Look, guns or no guns, people will die just as much. Killed by guns or killed by knife, fork, poison, cars, rope, doesn't really matter. Culture is also very important. I was living in Asia for 12 years, still as much killing as over here with some other type of murder weapons. I don't see the point.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Tames1(1) Disputed
-2 points
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
1 point

Would you post a sign in front of your house saying "I don't believe in guns. I don't have a gun, neither should you."

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
0 points

true, if you want to hunt, get a bow, its more sporting anyway. whats the sport in shooting a deer 300 yards away?

Side: Yes
3 points

Any one that says guns should be Banned in the USA of needs to move out of the USA. This is America, stop walking around with your tails between your legs and start acting like an american. Guns dont kill ppl , ppl kill ppl.

NEXT!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
shogun64(4) Disputed
1 point

if being american is going aroubd schools and shooting little kids because its american, maybe i need to leave.

Side: Yes

Guns should be banned everywhere except America.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Guns dont kill people, people kill people. People sometimes kill other people innocently a lower percentage of the time but yes it is there. It is called self defense. If someone breaks into your house and you shoot and kill that man is that a bad thing? Also if it is not guns then it will be homemade bombs or just kitchen knives. It would be almost impossible to ban just like the alchohol ban the US gov tried. It wont work in the southern states I gurantee it. Most of the 16 year olds and higher that I KNOW own a gun . at least 25% of them. Which means that they are already toting illegaly so if they are already how is the gov gonna enforce it if they are already having KIDS slip under the radar?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No they shouldn't. If you take away the civilian's only right to self defense, how are they suppose to defend themselves from the criminals who buy weapons and drugs from the black market illegally. If you think homicide rates are high now, if gun control becomes active, that will sky rocket.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No, firearms are simply made available for self-defense, the percentage of people that use them for other purposes is a very small one. Except in L.A. hehe

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

For all of you who want guns to be illegal ask your self this what will our army do without guns. Oh I know they will spit at eachother. Its funny how quick people are to say lets make guns illegal because their bad are they really that bad last time i checked it takes two hands a finger and a willing PERSON to use it. Just like how ignorant people say pit bulls are a deadly dog and should all be extermanated well so are bear and lions and tigers. Its not the animal that was trained to kill people. People train dogs to kill People. Now if this were a math equation People added to Killing equalls People Killing People hence the saying guns dont kill people, people kill people. Tell me Im wrong and ill call you and idot there is no argument for that statement none. Ignorance is what makes stupid and somtimes i see too much of it. California is the best place for it.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
trabb22(6) Disputed
1 point

Nooooo! They could punch each other.... Oah and they could run each other over with ford f-150s... I honestly think thoose could be more deady than a pistol in some cases.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Banning guns will not make gun-related deaths decline substantially. The majority of gun buyers are law-abiding people who keep the guns for self defense. Guns used in street crimes, especially from gangs, are typically illegal. If guns are banned, the illegal street guns will still be circulated, but the innocent people will not be able to obtain a gun for self-defense.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

I'm a damn hippie, I suppose, since I support extremely strict gun regulation. But the keyword there is regulation. Making guns illegal would just lead to more underground dealings, making it easy for any common criminal to obtain a gun without being registered as a gun owner and without having a gun license. While some cases of this still occur, it would be far more frequent without government regulation.

Side: Regulation purposes
3 points

Guns save lives! If we were to ban guns the only people that will have guns are the people we were trying to take them away from. People already are able to get guns illegally and will continue to if they are banned. I will always feel safer with a gun knowing that criminals can get guns illegally.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Guns kill peope; just like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

One of the many reasons those men signed the Declaration of Independence.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Guns assist people.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Way more people are killed each year by car crashes than by gun violence. Should we ban cars too?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. So you guys think that since guns kill people, we should ban those, right? Knives kill people too, should they be banned? We cut our meat with knives so no. We kill animals and eat their meat with guns so no we shouldn't ban guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ungernick28(21) Disputed
1 point

i do not think all guns should be banned, but certainly some. guns used for hunting are fine, but they do not serve any purpose other then that. guns such as AK-47's should be band because they are overkill. do you really need a machine gun to kill a little deer. kind of like how some knives such as switchblades are banned because they serve little purpose.

Side: yes
pujolspals(198) Disputed
2 points

Not exactly disagreeing with your argument, but guns can also be used for personal safety. Not just for killing "little deer".

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
1 point

I don't hunt or kill any life shape or form with any thing that I own with. However, banning a type of rifle is really just ignorant to the MAX. You should learn about firearms a lot more before you say something like AR, AK-47, whatever. It's all about the rate of fire and mechanism of the gun. It's how its made for philosophy of use (PoU). You cannot just ban anything in general because you do not understand how anything works at all. All rifle models including AR, AK, Sig, etc, are made with semi-automatic version for civilian use. I also never like or believe in fully auto weapon, they are not accurate, waste of ammo, and much harder to shoot. I never shot one, but shooting 2 rounds consecutively would already give me an idea. Please learn more about firearms and safety of it before you go out and stay stuff like this. It is not true at all.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

guns dont kill people, people kill people, from a gunsdont kill people i do corperation

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

we would gain nothing from banning guns in america. guns are dangerous when people illegally use them why would we ban guns in america? to stop the violence and all the killings linked to them correct? and if killing people is already illegal what good is it going to do to make guns illegal. If you are willing to kill some one you probably don't care what you are killing then with is legal or not. The only people banning guns in america would hurt are the people that are defending there homes, business's, families. Since guns are already a lucrative black market making them illegal would make it worst. just like banning alcohol did to this nation. look how much money that made the mob it brought them into power. what do you guys think a black market surplus do?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

I believe that a ban on firearms in America will result in widespread protests and riots, the gun market will continue, people will no longer feel secure, and an ineffective and possible corrupt system will be created that will only cause America even more suffering.

I also believe that anyone who says any type of regulation on firearms is against the 2nd Amendment is quite honestly ignorant of the world we live in now. Even greater regulation than is currently seen is needed on the buying and selling of firearms. I mean really let's be serious here, guns do kill people. But they also protect people. Regulation is needed to ensure that guns begin to do the latter in greater degrees.

Side: Keep the Guns Change the System
3 points

Absolutely not. In fact, if we force everyone to carry a .40 s&w;than crime rates will drop dramatically. My question is, as a criminal, will you attempt to kill someone if everyone else in sight is carrying a large handgun? a .40 S&W;is a large handgun, and will drop the toughest people in 3 shots. Something else you must keep in mind is that if we outlaw guns, the only people with guns will be outlaws, this leaves no defense for law abiding citizens. Now on to several specific types of guns these idiots wish to outlaw. Shotgun: A shotgun is not concealable, no one carrying a shotgun is going to get very far before being detained, or with the "shall carry" law, possibly shot. A shotgun does way too much damage for you to carry it into public with positive intents. Anyone who kills a shotgun wielder can get away with the third degree. Next semi auto: semi-auto is used by people wishing to reduce recoil, people hunting with poor aim, or someone who needs self defense. Finally the AK: Someone said you don't need an AK to take out a deer, first of all, the AK is a semi-auto weapon if it is legal. Second, the 7.62x39 shell is considered small for a deer, yes that is right, the AK-47 is a small gun. Third, it is very reliable. People want AK-47s so they can literally bury them in sand when things are peaceful, dig them out, and shoot them when things get bad. Fourth: it is a collectors item. Anyone who supports the banning of guns doesn't know enough about them to make an informed opinion, and isn't willing to learn more, and would rather live in ignorance than try to correct their views. As a side note, all of you tote your numbers. Whether the U.S.A. has the highest gun death rate of all countries, I don't know, many of these numbers are incorrect. Still, if we ban guns, and get every gun off the streets, people will find something else to kill each other with, I could kill someone with a rose if I wanted. Either way, if the U.S.A.'s numbers are as high as you claim it is because you can not kill someone with a gun with a dagger, so instead of going with the dagger, more people go with the gun.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Even if guns are outlawed, they would be smuggled in like any other drug. so outlawing guns won't make much of difference except it will be harder to get guns, besides guns are also used for sports so why ban them?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

I think if u have to ban a gun for ,excuse my language, retards kiling peouple.The goverment should step in and watch better ill postt more later.:)

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
2 points

.exeactlyyyy f it wasnt for smelly old retardsssss usingg gunss they way they arent ament to be used then they wouldnttt need to beee banned no wittt am sayingggggg LAD'SSSSSSS!!!!!!

Side: yes
3 points

aye dee we kno wit yer sayien likeeee (L)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: yes
3 points

Ever since the dawn of time mankind has killed each other, Cain killed Abel, he didn't use a gun. Guns are tools, tools for self defense and hunting. Just like cars are tools for driving. Cars don't drive, people drive. Guns don't kill, people kill. Anyhow, cross the border gun selling would still happen. If you make a law to stop people who already brake the law, does that really help? No, it helps the thugs. Because now law abiding American citizens have less protection. Good job hippies, you are making more likely for that pretty lady who lives on your street to get raped, or that wealthy old couple to get robbed.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

guns don't people. people kill people by using guns as a weapon

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

No matter how many gun laws are in effect the only people that will obey them are good law abiding citizens.

I am a police officer in PA and we find guns made with wood and pipe a criminal can make a gun for under 2.00.

If we ban guns the only people that will be armed are the criminals.

It is a fact that murder and violent crime is at a 45 year low and gun ownership is at a all time high.

Guns for good guys save lives

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Prohibit guns where appropriate.

Do not ban guns when guns are the tools of man.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Guns don't kill...People do.

Outlawing guns will only make them popular and worth more money, like Prohibition. People will get rich quick buying and selling under the table. It's like abortion. I'm completely against it. I think it should be considered murder, but I'd rather people murder safely so that the baby and mother don't die.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

if people don't like guns, then don't buy them. I hate rap music, I don't buy any. I don't need to ban it, I just choose not to own it. My having a gun doesn't affect any of my neighbors because I use it legally. It is the criminals you need to worry about and banning guns won't stop them from having them.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

If we look closely, guns don't kill people. People kill people. But there are millions of ways to die and everyday, it is a miracle to stay alive. If guns are taken off the streets, then something is going to replace guns. Instead of a gun, a criminal might threatened me with a bat. Now, should we then ban bats? That is like banning the Yankees and the Red Sox. lol We should not ban guns, but we should limit guns. We should limit guns to the people who can protect us...the law enforcement; police officers; the people that know how to use guns.

You can take the guns out of the Mafia. But you cannot take the Mafia out of the crimes. I bet if the Mafia does not have guns, they will still comit crimes.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

They can use 92% of anything to do it not just guns paper, pen, baseball bat, glass cup, chair, hands,ect. The list goes on forever.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
dtj032395(4) Disputed
1 point

While you may be right to assert that "guns don't kill people, people kill people," it is pure sophistry to assume that therefore people should carry guns. People do in fact kill people, and they do it a lot easier with the help of guns.

Side: Yes
3 points

First of who fires a gun

A gun is an object that has no life. People control guns

Now guns in the hands of the public have actually done more good than bad.

Libya- People were able to gain guns and over throw a unjust ruler

Switzerland- It is by law to have a gun by the time your 21 and be trained with it. They have the lowest crime rate in the world.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Guns are inanimate objects, guns don't have fingers to pull their own triggers and aren't alive so how do guns "kill" people? I am a gun collector, and I have yet to kill anyone with any of my guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

I concede that Guns let people kill others. ultimately, people kill people.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

I agree with the fact that guns weapons doesn't kill people they are just a tool that is being use, such knives, or even are hands. The one who is doing the killing is the on handling the weapon the tool.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Guns do not kill people, people do. What would be next? Banning knives? Banning cleaning products? Banning water?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Second Amendment

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

deterring tyrannical government;

repelling invasion;

suppressing insurrection;

facilitating a natural right of self-defense;

participating in law enforcement;

enabling the people to organize a militia system.

REALLY SHOULD NOT BE DEBATING THIS, NON NEGOTIABLE

shall not be infringed.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

I personally think our government will use this incident with help of the press to take our rights, guns and put martial law in effect. I saw how the press turned the public opinion from one military conflict to another, from baby killers in Vietnam to Hero's in the conflict in Iraq and Afgahanistan. China is holding the loan papers on our country and this is the largest comminist country in the world. I think what one mentally disturbed individual did was horrible and I pray for the children and teachers, The assualt weapon did not kill those people,this could happen with a revolver or a pump shotgun. Please don't let what one sick person did to let our government take our rights away from us.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
3 points

Any gun control is unconstitutional. So no, guns should not be banned nor should any type of ban be in place.

2nd amendment: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall NOT be INFRINGED.

any law to limit type of gun used, owned, or banned guns, ammo, magazine size, etc. is by definition INFRINGEMENT of the 2nd amendment because the government is telling its people whats ok and not ok. where in any of that ideology of gun control laws does that spell freedom?

once the infringement begins with the 2nd amendment where will it stop? government says movies and video games are to violent and ban them. big macs, soda, and fries make you to fat so we'll ban those.

Gun laws and bans are put in place that only affect good law abiding free citizens.

Criminals do not follow laws. That is BY DEFINITION a criminal!!! They will steal guns, get them from the black market, or from any illegal shipments from other countries if they have to.

Most of these mass shootings happen in so called "gun free zones". where gun control laws prohibit good law abiding citizens from carrying a gun to protect themselves and others. These gun free zones like schools, hospitals, post offices, most government areas, as well as buisnesses and public conventions that post no gun allowed signs, are basically advertising to these criminals, psychos, and mass murders that this will be a easy place to slaughter people because no one can defend themselves!!!

how often do you hear of a mass shooting or gun related firefight at a place where there are known 100's of gun carriers like gun shows, police stations, or nra conventions? Because criminals know some people will be packing a gun there and it will not be easy. there are thousands of stories where armed citizens stop criminals, in many cases without firing a shot and just showing the gun. The liberal media today mostly just films the major gun massacres and shootings because its big news, gets peoples attention, ratings, and promotes their agenda for gun control.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Two Societies of 200 random individuals, one with guns and one with no guns. The answer is obvious, a society without guns has less opportunity, risk and danger than a society with guns.

In a worldwide population of billions, many would have lived if opportunities to kill with guns had never arisen.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
rob1101 Disputed
4 points

[event]

The society with no guns has five members that buy guns from the black market, they take over the society and create a dictatorship where the men are forced into slave labor camps and the women are sold as sex slaves.

Meanwhile the other society is fine they have had a few disputes with a bad apple or two but they were both resolved without the collapse of the society.

[/event]

coming back to the planet earth you must first accept that guns exist. If you ban them there will still be a black market, no matter if they are smuggled or made domestically. So the best solution is to regulate and make sure law abiding citizens can buy guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Wooowwww such an awesome way to stick that whole situation in the derb derb's face .. LOL

Side: Yes
2 points

I think the whole debate revolves around whether or not you believe people are capable or incapable of behaving properly in the presence of a gun. If you are a conservative you believe people are capable. Progressives (liberals) believe people incapable. To take it further, if I believe you are capable then it's consistent that I demand accountability from you when you choose not the behave properly. There is a basic truth that applies here: Capable is to Accountable as Incapable is to Unaccountable.

Before you respond back, consider which Ideology seeks to hold others unaccountable and you have identified those who believe others incapable.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Making guns illegal wouldn't solve anything except to take them away from people that want to defend themselves. Is marijuana legal? No? Then why is it so easy to get a hold of? Banning guns will NOT keep them out of the hands of criminals. If someone wanted to get a gun, they'd find a way.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Remember how Hitler took over Germany single handedly? he registered everyones guns so that he knew where they were and who had them....then took the guns so that the citizens couldn't fight back. The crime rate in Washington D.C. has more than doubled since guns were banned- this is because the people who were committing the crimes didn't get rid of their guns because they dont follow the law!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

what about the 'RIGHT TO BARE ARMS' ?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

The 2nd Amendment was created to assure that Americans could protect themselves. Unless every gun is somehow destroyed, there will be no way to ban guns in America.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

the Second Ammendment was created in order to assure that we have the same strength as the government. The ability to overthrow it if shit goes down.

The second amendment makes all the other amendments possible.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

no if you have a guns license

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

as long as people who have guns use they responsibly they should never be banned

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

no guns should not be baned in america and no we should not be able 2 carry fully automatic, but if a person tries to hurt you or your family unless you are a sharpshooter then a single shot wepon will not be good enough to protect you or your family. so a semi-automatic wepon can be good to have around the house.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Just people kill people. Children would not wonder what a gun does if they are exposed to guns and people tell them the proper way to use them. Its the children who are shielded from guns that try to play with them and don't know what to do, that cause trouble.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Even if guns were banned poeple could still make there own guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
0 points

.if guns were banned things such like amo&things;used to build guns would be banned to so how could they build their own????? explain that to me NOW

Side: yes
USpatriot76 Disputed
1 point

Maybe in America but its like smuggling marijuana it hapens even though it is illegal here. Criminals would still get gun and weapons no matter what the law.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Should [citizen] guns be banned?

- hell no.

In an arguement made by T.S. Eggleston, if guns were banned, a black market would arise as well as gun smuggling. This in return would lead to an increase in crime and honestly, who wants more crime? He states that the citizens with no previous criminal records would surrender their guns to officials, leaving them helpless and at a higher risk for being injured.

Eggleston further explains that "Criminals will always continue to break the law and prey on the law-abiding but disarmed citizens."

For the previous arguements that claim "there are almost no cases where an innocent person has defended themselves with a gun."

Thats bull. According to Eggleston and other statistics, "every 13 seconds, an American uses a legal firearm in defense against a criminal."

So, for self-protection, guns should remain legal. It prevents overcrowding of prisons, riots, and decreases many injuries. In return health costs are not forced to sky-rocket.

To suit the people that believe guns should be completely illegal....I do feel that stricter laws need to be enforced to acquire such equipment.

According to the National Rifle Association (NRAILA), in the state of Texas, an individual does not need a permit to buy a hangun, and they are not required to carry registration or a license.

This lack of legislation is one of the main reasons for the decrease in gun safety, so if we fix this, Americans can be on their way to a happy, gun legal society.

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http://www.the-eggman.com/writings/gun_ban.html

http://www.the-eggman.com/index.php

http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_tx.htm

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

ok so i think thtas the guns dont kill people kill the guns well they just happen to be in between the people

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Studies have shown (look at cities in Australia) that when you disarm a population crime rates go up because people no longer have the fear of people defending themselves.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

guns just help people kill each other but its not the guns fault it has no control of its self people choices to use the gun in crime

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

There was a reason we the people created the 2nd ammendment, the right to bear arms. We created it so if the government went tyranical on the people, the people will have a way to defend themsleves and try to overthrow the government. If guns were banned in America, it would leave the citizens helpless against the government.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

of course not it is our right as defined by the constitution to have the right bear arms and pluss do you really wan only people who got there guns illegaly to have them??

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

hell no! guns should definitely not be banned. some people in this country depend on guns to kill animals for food. guns don't kill people. people kill people.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No, but they should be registered, and concealed weapons and handguns should not be carried in public.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Not banned, but it would be reasonable to restrict and regulate access to guns like in Europe.

Side: Regulation purposes
2 points

No because the second amendments says and i quote "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
TERMINATOR(6781) Disputed
1 point

Whatever the Constitution says must be right, eh?

Side: yes
2 points

A ban on guns would be about as effective as the illegalization of drugs.

Regardless of the law, a determined addict will always get his fix.

A determined criminal will always find a gun.

And the law to ban guns will only serve to disarm the law-abiding, leaving more people at the mercy of a criminal element.

The only TRUE solution to ending gun violence is to end ALL violence, but that is impossible by nature. A killer without a gun will use a blade or blunt object, as they do even today.

If you ban guns, violence and death will continue. Ban the guns, and the knives, and the ropes, and the rocks, and the fists.

The "gun" is just a tool. It can be used to help, as well as harm. It is the character of the man who holds responsibility for the gun that determines how it is used.

Ask yourself this: Would a gun in your hands bring only death and destruction? If you were educated about, and familiar with the weapon, would you be forced to shoot simply because it was there? Could you envision a scenario in which the gun you held might save your life?

Watch "America's Most Wanted" on Saturday nights. With every scenario you see, ask yourself if the victims of those crimes might be alive today if THEY carried a gun.

A simple internet search for instances where a firearm saved lives, and a few minutes of careful reading are all that you should need.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

A ban on guns will do nothing for America except make it hard for farmers.

Most of you have probably heard about Australia banning guns after the Port Arthur massacre. We didn't ban all guns, just most of them, because our farmers need them and our police need them. We also made it near on impossible to get a license to carry them.

What I saw was friends burying their guns in the back yard, wrapped up in oiled cloths and stowed away in PVC pipe, rather than hand them in. I saw farmers, now unable to use their semi-automatics, who started to complain of repetitive-strain injuries because of the sheer number of times they had to work the bolt action on their rifles when culling cattle (we were smack-bang in the middle of a drought... it was kill or let starve).

Sure, gun-related violence went down. But violence in general didn't go down. It simply switched to different forms of violence. And if this country ever gets invaded, they've now got a population that can't fight back.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
rebeccaw(2) Disputed
1 point

So you are suggesting that in the event of an attack the streets of Australia should be filled with gun wielding civilians with no training of street warfare, no particular leaders, just whoever fancies killing some people runs about getting into their neighbours crossfire as they shoot from the coffee shop at anyone who moves?

Odd that seems like chaos.

If gun violence went down then thats a step in the right direction for violence overall.

Side: Yes
2 points

Never bring a knife to a gun fight !!!! I dont want to be the person with a bat or knife when a robber comes through my house with a shotgun.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Well yes guns kill people but not just people animals too. but honestly i don't think they should be banned look cars, and more stuff kill people but no one is banning that. I do think some guns should be for protection also knifes, spray but when it comes down to it where is it? your gun will be right next to you for emergency. But guns should be used for gangs or kill someone because something went wrong and you hate them, NO its for needs not bad!

Side: should handguns be banned
2 points

Well I doubt guns shoot by themselves, nor have feelings to kill. All depends on the user/owner and how they use it.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

In my opinion, everyone in this country that is over the age of 18 should be allowed to carry a gun.

Now before you get offended, let me state my case.

If everyone had a gun then I feel that crime would go down because criminal would be less inclined to commit a crime against someone that they know has a gun just like theirs.

Now some may argue that giving guns to people will lead to people getting killed because of arguments or intoxication.

To these people I say, those that would kill eachother off are really doing our society a favor because if they are willing to commit murder then really they are uncivilized and are a threat to the law abiding citizens of this nation.

Thats just how I feel and I'm sorry if I offended anyone that has had a relative killed due to gun violence. I am sorry for your loss and I don't want to tarnesh the image of your loved ones but if they had also had a gun then the asshole (i think this word is appropriate) that killed them wouldn't have been able to end their lives so easily. Again I am sorry if anyone feels offended by this.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Guns don't kill people, I kill people. lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
2 points

.iam glad you find yourself funny, it wouldnt be so funny when something like this happens to you :|

Side: yes
josiejump1(18) Disputed
2 points

is that a confession? do you realise someone could read that and think you are being serious, you need to think about what you are claming you weirdo!

Side: yes
2 points

personally i like guns ?? you can do many things with them ? spray water ??? squirt juice in your mouth ??? MANY THINGS ! <3

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
2 points

can i ask why you find guns so good, why do you like themm ??

Side: yes
Raaa(16) Disputed
2 points

because they make cool noises ........ BANG BANG ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

guns dont shoot people, people shoot people. it is impossible for a gun to have feelings of atred to shoot someone they dont like whereas it is normal for people to feel hatred. i understand that yes some people have times where the really 'hate' someone but how can it go from hating someone to killing them with a gun?? &yess;guns and cars sometimes are used to kill people but it is more known that a gun is used to kill someone. if guns were banned we wouldnt have any of these arguments i just think that if the law didnt invent guns being legal then no one would really care ?? bann gunssss now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank youu'xx

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Raaa(16) Disputed
2 points

guns DO kill people ... with laughterr !!!!! :L =))) ...... !!!!!! wahahahaa

Side: yes
2 points

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE? , RAPPERS DOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

The truth is, if we ban guns, criminals will want them even more and there will be increased crime. Defend gun with gun, not with law.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I think this whole argument is ridiculous! Read the Second Ammendment people! The people who use guns to kill people will not be stopped by a dumb law like this! One should have the right to defend themselves with a gun! Killingis already prohibited by law, there is already a law relating to this.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

This is one I've been wanting to see for a while now. It'd be absolutely ridiculous to ban guns,why would you even want to do that. So what,people are using them for bad reasons. That comes natural with being human,we have to expect some people to misuse and abuse the things that can be of good use to others. It's just like the debate on whether they should ban rated M video games or not,it's just pitiful. If we're going to ban guns,we might as well bans knives,fireworks,and even computers. Anything CAN be used to hurt people,that doesn't mean that it's always used for negative reasons. If they are going to ban guns,then they might as well just ban everything else that's negatively used...ha good luck with that

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Statistics actually show that areas where owning guns is allowed has a lower burglary rate than areas that don't allow it.

Besides, banning guns isn't going to make it disappear, just like how illegal drugs are banned, though millions keep on consistently use them.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If we disarmed all the law abiding citizens, the criminals would have no resistance. Criminals won't obey the law and get rid of their weapons, that is why they are criminals. Besides, I see something huge coming. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I feel I will need my guns to protect me very soon.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Most guns used in murders and homicides are obtained illegally. It's also in our constitution, saying that wear have the right to bear and keep arms. having open carry laws would actually decrease crime. If you see somebody with a gun, you aren't going to be stupid enough to try and rob them are you? it's also a way to defend ourselves, many crimes are preventable if the victim had a way to defend themselves. There are also ways to get people to use and keep guns responsibly. Gun safety classes and marksmanship classes.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Can a gun kill someone? Yes, but it can't fire without someone or something pulling its trigger! If we ban guns we have no defense against the criminals who get their guns illegally. It is easier for them to rob houses and stores if the criminal knows the other person has no good defense.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If we ban guns we are going against the 2nd amendment (the Constitution)!! Citizens have the right to bear arms!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

You might say that guns kill people but they also protect people. Guns should not be banned because defenseless people need some way to defend them selfs at home from robbers or who ever tries to harm said person. In way guns to hurt people, but the ultimately protect people as well.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If you're alone at night in a park within the rough part of the inner city, you need a gun. If guns were banned, someone with a knife might come up and rob you easily. Guns can kill people but they also provide a lot of protection. Plus, if someone REALLY wanted to kill someone else, he would, gun or no gun.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If criminals followed gun laws, gun control would work great.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
LENINISM(2) Disputed
1 point

WHAT????

CRIMINALS ARE CALL CRIMINALS FOR A REASON

United forever in friendship and labour,

Our mighty republics will ever endure.

The Great Soviet Union will live through the ages.

The dream of a people their fortress secure.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

Through days dark and stormy where Great Lenin lead us

Our eyes saw the bright sun of freedom above

And Stalin our leader with faith in the people,

Inspired us to build up the land that we love.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

We fought for the future, destroyed the invaders,

And brought to our homeland the laurels of fame.

Our glory will live in the memory of nations

And all generations will honour her name.

Long live our Soviet motherland,

Built by the people's mighty hand.

Long live our people, united and free.

Strong in our friendship tried by fire.

Long may our crimson flag inspire,

Shining in glory for all men to see.

Side: Yes
2 points

yes guns kill people,but it depends who is holding the gun.we need guns for wars,protection, if someone breaks in to your house what weapon would you chose a blunt object, a sharp object,or a gun.I choose GUN!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Guns should not be banned from America. The people that are using guns for stupid crap should be banned from America. Guns are mostly for self defense and target shooting and things like that. There not for shooting random people that are innocent and had no reason to be shot. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Guns don't kill people, Chuck Norris kills people. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Are You Not Thinking Logically? Guns Purpose Are For Protection. Why Should We Ban Guns Because They Are Bought And Sold By PEOPLE Who Should Take More Effort Into Who THEY SELL These Guns To That Are Inflicted And Abused And Sadly Kill Other People. Why Take Away A Right To Every American To Keep A Fire Arm for The Sole Purpose Of Protecting His/Her Loved Ones, Belongings Or Property, Because Of The Mistakes And Wrong Intentions Of Disgusting, Self-Less And Corrupt Human Beings. It Is Just Like The Bans On Pit Bulls. You Put Down An Animal That's Main Intention Inbedded In It's Nature Is To Be Mans Companion. Yet Let The "Man" Who Raised The Dog From Birth Get A Hefty Fine And Go Unscathed? Ridiculous, Banning A Product/Thing, Only Create Doorways For Illegal Markets, And Bring Ideas Into The Heads Of Thousands (Just Like They Are Finding Ways Now To Abuse The Right To Own A Fire Arm) Ways To STILL Own And Sell Guns. It Isn't Going To Make Anything Better, It's Just Going To Make Matters More Dramatic.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

people who want to kill, will kill if you ban guns, they will kill with knives, or something else. when you ban guns murders will still happen. And criminals will get guns some other way if they have to. banning guns will leave citizens unprotected from the criminals who get guns illegally. Allowing non-felon, non-drug addicted, non-psychiatric persons to carry guns for personal protection should be perfectly legal.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Clearly gun crime is a problem in some places. And when we look at gun crime we find it is prevalent in places where citizens have been restricted from having guns and the crooks have all the (illegal) guns. Washington DC is an example.

Add to that the fact that gun crime (in an area) is not related to the guns law-abiding citizens have. Its concentrated in high crime areas where gun laws are weakly enforced – at best.

What we really need is more guns on the street.....legal guns

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

No because it is our right to be able to defend oneself, and those we love. Remeber it does not mean attack those who are a threat, it means only using them to defend ourselves, as civilians.

I personally do not find a need for one, because I have all the protection I need. Jesus christ.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

NO Absolutely NO ! If that ever occurs , The United States has fallen , it will be goodbye time to Freedom

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

It is time all the good guys and COPS be trained to handle and carry guns. Terrorist are waiting to come into our children schools. They are not there for show and tell. They are there to kill and kill. This why we need cops with guns and other good guys to stop the threat before our children our killed. They are out there just waiting for their orders to strike! Did we forget about Russia Beslan School in 2004? 380 deaths and 783 injured! These cops did not have guns and had to wait for the Russian Military to come (and wait and wait, while innocent children was murdered!). Just think what one armed trained cop or good guy could have done! Don’t think for a second it couldn’t happen to your school or your children. It is time that citizen’s stand up for their unarmed cops/security and demand they are armed and trained.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

if the government tries to take my guns they'll have to go through lots of bullets first plus the government would collapse and people would be killing the government for trying to take them. and i would help.........oh question do guns sneak out at night and go kill your neighbors and kill you......

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

guns dont kill people cause someone has to pull the trigger or be dropped people who want to ban guns have never felt the nice chill of fine steel in there hands

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

This question is ridiculous.

No guns not should be banned.

We have the right to own firearms.

Our country was made this way. Keep it that way.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
velazque22(1) Disputed
0 points

yes,your right but thats where the the problem is. People are taking advantage of our right to bear arms.

Side: yes
2 points

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."

-George Washington

"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men."

-Samuel Adams

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No!!! We are going to need our guns for when the shooting starts ;)

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

First of all let's set a side the hole guns kill people that's bs. Guns kill people just as much as a pencil miss spells a word. People kill people.

If we didn't have the right to bare arms then there would be no way to stop the goverment from taking us over. And for all of you who think the naming of guns will stop killing. Your an idiot, people will buy and sell guns though the black marget.

Who ever said that guns don't stop a robber or any other criminal, last time a check three rounds of 9mm will stop a guy dead in his tracks. And for those who said 90% of rape, killing… guns don't stop there is one reasion. It's is becousethe victims don't have guns.

Should we allso put a ban on knives to.

Side: Guns don't kill people people kill
2 points

Like many have said, if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Law abiding citizens would have to break said law to protect their property and family because the millions of felons out there who have already purchased guns illegally would not turn theirs in. Even if they never had bad intentions with them in the first place, spilling the beans that they even owned one would get them in trouble. I won't be turning mine in if the day comes. I hunt, which most city folk no nothing about with their processed foods and/or vegetarian ways. Most of you on the other end of this debate probably never touched a gun, much less shot one before, and base your opinion on the decision that you simply have no use for them. Deer have to be taken down with an arrow or bullet to be field dressed or taken to a processor. Cows are different; they're stupid and will just walk right into the butcher shop. In a perfect world,(not my perfect world) say every firearm and ammo round was gone, everywhere. Bad people could still kill you with a knife or heavy blunt object, and inside your bedroom where you should feel the safest, you could easily be cornered and stabbed or bludgeoned to death. I think any of you who wouldn't use a gun to protect yourselves won't use much of anything else to either. If you had lived in the country, and were raised up by a father that took you hunting, you wouldn't feel the way you do. I live in an area where people get murdered about as often as a lunar eclipse occurs, but I always keep a pistol close by. It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it! Children brought up around guns have considerably more respect for them. When you hear of kids finding a gun and one shoots the other by mistake, I think of a yankee that never showed it to them, or taught them safe handling and I imagine he never shot it himself. If you are satisfied with the thought of curling up in a ball when an intruder crashes through your front door, by all means do. But, they are going to kill you if they want to. If somebody breaks through my door, I'm going to shoot them, and then ask them why they didn't knock. You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold dead fingers. People are just generally better once you leave the city. Sure, there are still people living off of the system, but mostly people around here have to work to survive. It seems much easier for a criminal living in the city to kill and steal there, and walk around the corner to make a buck off the treasures obtained. God blessed texas! We have more guns than any other state, and by far the nicest people who would go out of their way to help a stranger in need. I've been broken down out of state more than once on a busy road, and helped change tires in Florida and ll the way back across to here, and in every case it was hours before someone came along that gave a shit. Here you'll have 3 pickups pulled in behind you in 10 minutes time, and that's on the road less traveled. If you don't respect our second amendment, you are a yankee, Democrat, and a douche. And you probably use your horn more than 10 times a day. And you're probably a bit of a dick. You probably don't say a kind word to strangers either.

Side: Guns don't kill people people kill
2 points

If guns or firearms were to be banned think of the unemployment rate that would increase greatly. Firearm companies would go out of business because there would be no customers. The ammunition manufactures would go out of business also because of the lack of users. The economy is already unstable as it is. This is one of the many reasons why guns should NOT be banned!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If we did ban them it could turn into what the Prohibition was: a time where alcohol (and now perhaps guns) is sold on the black market and sought after arguably even more. If we ban guns it'll give more power to organized crime and also take away an economic chunk from the USA (from selling guns, hunting etc.). It should also be noted that by banning guns it could cause social upset and people protesting their right to wield arms, thus causing civil unrest and cracks within society.

Side: No
2 points

So Guns take and save lives and for those people who are talking bout kids getting hurt cuase they think its a toy the parents of those kids should put the guns in SAFE'S or somwhere where the children cant get to its called being responsible i mean sure some people are stupid and go buy a gun they know nothing about and either hurt themselves or somone their with. Now the second reason to keep guns if you have a robber that comes into your house and you think oh just let them have it and you hide somwhere and they know your there they will find u and either kill u or rape u now see if u had a gun in a safe under or by ur bed and a robber breaks in thats when u role out of bed open the safe grab ur gun hide somwhere and when he tries to get shoot him in the stomach or chest who cares if he dies or not he was the one who took his chance on it by robbing you. And you should feel the need to get protection especially if you have children what if a rapist/serial killer breaks in do u wanna see ur kid get raped and killed that could have been prevented had you had a gun to protect yourself and ur family cus u better know that if i have a wife and kids or its just me i will grab my gun and shoot the idoit that tried to rob me. or lord help me if i have to stick up for somone who doesnt beleive in guns i would help him even if he could help himself

Just because some people are stupid doesnt mean they have to ruin it for the rest of us it called hunter safty for a reason and it does save lives and oh ya im 16 and i have the brains to know that guns save lives

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I can't believe anyone would be okay with the second ammendment being broken! I may be very young and not understand as much or have that much experience but if we take away our guns we take away our rights. What if we were invaded? and all of our guns were banned? how the heck are we suppoesed to survive if we can't protect ourselves? how the heck do we cope if the government takes all of our weapons away? what if it's all a trap for the government just to take us down easier to control us easier? Yeah it may sound outragious or stupid... but just think about it .... to stay on safe measures lets keep guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

USA may not last forever then what? China is building a big ARMY, why do you think that is, dumby?

Watch the movie DARFUR the slaughtered are also unarmed, you think it cannot happen here with the people in our country taking over by deciept. You folks which support gun control are lead by wolves, or DOGS to the slaughter just like Hitler lead the jews.

Look where their weak jews (not fighting back) attitude got them, slaughtered like you gun grabbers will be, slaughtered or taken to slavery.

Germans would not invade countries with armed citizens, mandated by law to have access to weapons, real weapons not just single shot.

You jokers which are so for disarming our country are traitors, like cockroaches in our great society.

You will NEVER admit any facts, most have another agenda, we may not know the exact agenda, but you can be sure it is not an agenda to create a free society here in our great USA. You want to control, you are control freaks and listen to progressives agenda to control, you can not be changed. There is a study underway which may prove, you folks are the way you are because, you were dropped on your head when you were babies, or your mama got punched while you were in the womb. which caused brain damage. Which is where the negative attitude comes from.

Gun Grabbers throw rocks at the tanks and thugs when they come to rape your woman like happened in our own country just after the huricane.

Gun grabbers deserve what they get in the end, I trained my kids with the movie Defience, as a training ground, somewhat true movie and the revolt started with taking a gun from another, Jews lived because they fought back ... with a GUN dumby.

YOU DONT WANT GUN CRIMES, ARM EVERY CITIZEN which is willing and mentally capable to defend themselves and others.

911 would not have happened if I was on the plane, or if someone like me and we were allowed to carry our firearms on board.

I have 21 years of MILITARY SERVICE

POLICE Service

AND HIGH LEVEL EMERGENCY RESPONDER

Gun Grabbers WHO ARE YOU??????????????

I am a defender of our CONSTITUTION

Who are you defending, CRIMINAL FRIENDS??? Or mayby you are playing footsy with CHINA or THUGS, which you will get guns ANYWAY reguardless of your petty laws.

JOKERS this is a STUPID DEBATE and won't change a thing with gun grabbers, they like the pain and lies they put out.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I agree with everything you just said, and Defiance was a great movie!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If guns would be made illegal, then only criminals would have them. Comforting thought, that one.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

First off guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Guns are merely tools to do the job.

Problems will just get worse like they did when alcohol got banned. People would sell alcohol illegally. I have no doubt that the same would happen with guns. The banning of alcohol brought us Al Capone, imagine what the banning of guns would give us.

Robberies are illegal so if guns were illegal nothing would change.

There are three main reasons why someone would break the law. One, to get money. Two they did not know about it. Or three, to get infamy or fame.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Maryland has no guns on the streets or anywhere except your house or a firing range. They also have the highest crime rate of all the united states of America.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

the maker of the website obviously was for banning guns due to their being no No button but in-staid a no, guns don't kill people button.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I love how individuals that don't know a thing about guns are trying to impose their views to infringe on others 2A "Rights". No one is questioning the 1A "Right"?!!? To let everyone know there is no state in the country were gun ownership is illegal....That would be unconstitutional! However there are many states in the country that infringe on the right of certain types of gun ownership. Lets take New Jersey, It is illegal to use hollow point bullets(which are legal just about everywhere else) because so one got a hold of bad information. A hollow point has less chance of doing secondary damage than a FMJ round. I am using this as an example people who know nothing about firearms so not speak until they get the facts. I have never seen a gun jump of the self load itself and walk down the street and start shooting people. If some one has I would like to know??? The actions of a few should not dictate the actions for everyone. People complain about laws not working because the LAWLESS ARE BREAKING THEM. I value human life and the police are not required to protect the individual. (I cant remember the federal case but the SCOTUS said that the police do not have the obligation of protecting the citizen) So who does? Most people don't realize that semi-Auto assault rifles are regulated by the state. However fully automatic assault rifles are regulated by the Federal Government. Every time the new puts something about assault rifle they show FULL AUTO federally regulated rifle which can only be transfered and not but new. (the federal firearms act of 1985). So get the facts before you start disputing because you will find that the info you have is wrongfully skewed! An armed society is a safer society.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I would like to make my first statement by saying if people got rid of guns people will find other weapons to kill people with. Its going to be a never ending thing no matter what you get rid of. Second is everybody forgetting about the hunters in the world. Hunting is one of Americas favorite sport. People would be absolutely devastated if that was taken away from them. Think about it

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

people use guns to kill people, guns dont kill people! i had to add more sorry.

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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Guns don't kill people.

WE kill people.

Ban guns the the murders will go to knives or their hands.

will you cut off our hands because those three people choked someone to death?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Guns don't kill people just lying around collecting dust and rust it depends if they are being used or not.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If guns are banned people will use knives and other weapons to kill people. Have you ever heard of illegal arms dealers who sells weapons and going against the government.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
SAXON(16) Disputed
1 point

The solution is quite simple. Go after those arms dealers, and execute them on the spot. I cannot believe how simple this is, yet no one thinks about it. That's liberalism for you.

Side: Yes
2 points

HELL NO! Second amendment people: Right to bare ARMS! It is our right as citizens to be able to protect ourselves when comes the circumstance!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Guns in the United States are necessarily to protect against tyranny in government. This is one of the main reasons the 2nd amendment exists. That is the only argument you will ever need to hear against gun control period.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

1. A gun is an inanimate object and once a bullet is removed, it is as useless as a paper weight and will never function again till someone makes it.

2. Getting rid of guns prevents death, but hammers, screw drivers and cars killed people, as did clubs and bows and spears before guns were ever invented.

3. Obviously being unarmed and defenseless or running from a criminal is better than using a gun to stop them, especially for the old, the crippled, pregnant women, etc.

4. All we need are safe rooms, martial arts training and a phone to call the police, which means the losers who live in mobile homes dont need protection, we could beat carreer criminals with our bare hands, and a police car miles away is better than a gun which is inches away when your life is in danger.

5. People who support getting rid of guns and say they dont feel threatened is because they have never been threatened.

6. I am in a public building and I have a gun in my vehicle. The four girls around me are alive not because my gun is out there and it would scare them for me to bring it in in my hand but because I also have not decided to take the framing hammer in my back seat that they would ignore and use it to beat one or more of them to death with it.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
SAXON(16) Disputed
1 point

You hear a footstep nearby. You are frightened. You see someone. In fear, you pull the fucking trigger, killing the poor bastard who just happened to be nearby. What did he ever do to you?

You get into an argument with a friend of yours. You become so pissed you pull out your gun and put a few holes into his head.

Ever hear of the Wild West, my good man? Feel free to run along.

Side: Yes
2 points

i don't believe they should ban guns i think if everyone in the world had a gun there would be less crime. But for all the #Haters out there let me put it this way. Saying ."oh guns don't kill but Bullets do." Is like saying, " oh i didn't rape her but my dick did.'' Drop the whole subject people like you #Haters are targeting the wrong people the people who take the proper step in to receiving that right to carry are not the ones to go after its the mofos down the ally way that think that this is still high school in the real world and wanna play on a team (aka GANG) so get off the asses of those who obtain a proper permit and respect the fact that those people are the ones who would prolly put their life's on the line for all you baby's out there who are getting held up in a bank laying on the ground crying because the lady next to you has a bullet in her head and the only one in the room with a gun that you know of is the guys killing people. Think about it that way sure you can take the guns away from the good guys but can you take them away from the bad guys......

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Cynical(1948) Disputed
1 point

i don't believe they should ban guns i think if everyone in the world had a gun there would be less crime.

So you believe that everyone in the world having a gun would, essentially, lessen crime? Everyone includes criminals, thus it will make it far easier for them to commit crimes and murders.

Saying ."oh guns don't kill but Bullets do." Is like saying, " oh i didn't rape her but my dick did.''

Neither guns nor bullets kill people. People kill people.

Side: Yes
Springfeildx(10) Disputed
2 points

Okay i am willing to reason with you lets do a for instince.

Badguy: walks into a store full of 12 people. carring a springfeild xd40 Sub compact okay he only has 1 clip 1 clip holds 9 rounds! everyone in the store has a gun too and want to live!!

Badguy: shoots 1 person

?: how many of those 11 people are going to shoot each other? that makes it 1vs11 Now what's the badguy going to do.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
2 points

You're a moron. Bad guys will ALWAYS have guns. Hence bad guys. Law abiding citizens won't have one if the law said so. Hence law biding citizen. Bad guys want something and pull out that piece pointing at LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. 2 options, citizens have guns and point back. Maybe bad guy have 1 shot off, maybe not. Or, all citizens scream and run, bad guy unloads on citizens. Hmmmmmmmmm, sure, that will work.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I'll preface this by saying that I have never in my life felt unsafe or afraid in my day to day comings and goings any where I have lived. I don't carry a concealed handgun because of a fearful existence or paranoia.

I also do not have a "commando complex" which would make me one of the worst kind of wannabes seeing I have never served in the military or law enforcement. I actually do not have any desire to use the gun on anyone and pray I never have to pull it for any reason.

I don't place myself in dangerous situations or go places where I think danger may be present. In other words, my primary form of self defense is avoidance of potential danger, not confrontation.

That does not make me a coward, because I have inadvertently and unintentionally found myself in situations where I have had to step in to defend other people (without a firearm), and I have responded pro-actively and decisively.

So setting aside those common accusations against people who carry concealed handguns, why do I carry one?

1. Because I can. It is a right afforded to me by the U.S. Constitution and the Arkansas State constitution. It is afforded to me by a concealed carry law that law abiding citizens should never have had to fight for.

Nonetheless, it has been hard won through long and expensive legislative action to develop what we have today. It is a right and the more of us who obtain the license and carry the guns, the harder it will be for controlling politicians to reverse it in the future.

2. Because it is my duty and responsibility to take advantage of a right afforded to me by what I believe was the guiding hand of an almighty God in the framing of the Constitution of the U.S. and the Bill of Rights.

3. Because I choose to take responsibilityy for my and my family's safety. Police generally arrive at a crime scene after the criminals are long gone and the devastation to citizen victims is already done. It is foolish indeed to believe that that our civil governments have the ability to protect us from the sub human predators of our society.

4. Because I live in a real world in which I recognize the dangers above are present. To do otherwise is to stick our heads in the sand and ignore an ever-present danger among us.

5. Because I want to be part of what makes criminals wonder if the next person they choose to assault may be the one that ends their life. The more law abiding citizens that are armed, the less sure criminals can be of the outcome of their actions against us.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

ok anti-gunners, imagine this situation, a mass murderer is looking for a college to attack. He sees two different colleges. A sign on the first college says gun free zone, and a sign on the second college says armed staff and students. What college do you think he's going to pick.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
neusportet(7) Disputed
2 points

Mass murderers should be detected and treated. And should NOT have access to guns. Don't you see where the problem is?

Side: Yes
jessicar4bbi(1) Disputed
0 points

Stupid argument. You're using an extreme example to demonstrate the legitimacy of gun ownership? I can chop and screw your argument down to make it more complex, as you should have done from the very beginning anyway.

1) A mass murder will have some form of mental psychosis, or history of violence. This means that in a state/country where it is required by law to have a full medical and criminal background check cleared in order to obtain a license to yield a weapon, this mass murderer wouldn't have a chance at obtaining a gun in the first place. Ban guns altogether? They'd have to turn to the black market. And this isn't an easy process, either.

2) Let's say where this man lives, guns are banned. If he wants to go on a killing spree he would have to be extremely dedicated to the cause. Whether or not he obtains a gun, this guy is clearly dangerous and will kill with any means necessary.

3) There are more incidences of school shoot outs in America compared to any other developed country in the world. What is the difference between America and the UK, Australia or Canada? Well let's see here... oh yeah. Guns.

4) "Guns don't kill people, people do". Hm? Of course - a gun is an inanimate object. However, missing the big picture here. More guns = higher homicide rates. Less guns = lower homicide rates. Are Americans just more violent by nature or are you too hung up on your 2nd amendment rights to acknowledge there is a problem with guns?

Side: Yes
KrittMasta(19) Disputed
2 points

You're an idiot, it happens in U.S. ALLLLLLL the time. Not just in U.S. perhaps, EVERYWHERE!

Shoot out in school is a form of violence. What about gang fights between schools. Maybe we should ban school uniforms too. DERB DERB!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

NO! If this were to happen that would be a major infringement on our Second Amendment to The Constitution of The United States. With more armed citizens, that could deter criminals from committing crimes. More armed citizens make the country safer.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
neusportet(7) Disputed
2 points

that's it. Get a gun for every one... you really have a problem in the USA with people supporting violence views such as this one. Safety comes from goodness, trust, peace, love, not arms!

Side: Yes
2 points

Guns do kill people but they save many more lives than they kill.

Also some people get alot of food that they need form hunting. You ban this you kill them.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
neusportet(7) Disputed
2 points

With all my respect, you are mixing things up. Weapons used by the army are a different thing. Weapons used for hunting animals are also a different thing. But selling to just about anybody weapons like the ones I see on TV sold in the USA is simply outrageous. YOU ARE KILLING EACH OTHER! stop this madness please

Side: Yes
Oiden(395) Disputed
2 points

I am not mixing up. Many crimes are also committed with guns that are used for hunting. These assult weapons and guns that are more deadly are bought by collectors and sport shooters. The few who get guns for killing often pre-meditate. They can't get the M16 that they saw on Tv? they will switch to something else. A boltaction hunting rifle or another simiautomatic rifle.

I am sorry to burst your bubble but killings like this will never stop. There are bad men out there that want to hurt others either because they like it, because they got mad at someone, or to better them selves. Getting rid of assult weapons will do nothing.

I do though applaud you for saying, with all due respect. I find few who show some form of respect on this site.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If guns were banned then criminals would go to knives and or crossbows, would you ban those too?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
neusportet(7) Disputed
2 points

We are not talking about knives here... we are talking about guns. You have to start fixing a society somewhere and eliminating violence-inducing weapons is a first and important step

Side: Yes
Oiden(395) Disputed
2 points

Let is say that guns were banned in America, which would never happen there are too many gun lovers here. But theroeticly....

Wouldbe criminals would get the gun(s) they wanted anyways. And a cheap gun is easy to make anyways. If guns were taken away then they would switch to that or go with shooting people with arrows or stabbing.

Violence will never be elliminated. This task is impossible. Yes according to statistics many are killed by gun but many more are saved by them.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

If you look at all these horrific mass shootings, like Columbine, Virginia Tech, and the Colorado theater shooting, what did they all have in common? They were all GUN-FREE ZONES. Meaning that only those who care about laws will follow them.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I dont think guns should be banded but i do think we need to get rid of the black market sales of guns i live here in Oklahoma where you can go to the state fair grounds where they have a gun and knife show and they dont even check back grounds or nothing that is a bad loop hole in the system and you can buy a ar15 ak47 and so on but if you go in a regular gun shop here you can not buy that type of weapon i think those type of rifles should stay in the military not on the streets but i also think if people want to carry or have one in there homes they should have to go to a mandatory gun course and it not be very simple like it is here where i live and get there licence to beable to buy and own one and some type of mental evaluation this can be all done and probably costly but it will make some kinda of a difference because we all need to protect our self's and i believe that will help keep most of the insane nuts from just going out there and being able to buy one i love my freedom and being able to own my guns and being able to pack one to protect my self but i think the laws are just to loose just for anybody to go in a store and buy one i know you have to go thru a backgroung check but to me thats not good enough because not every body has a felony record but they still dont have any business owning one and not even capable of shooting one but they just walk out the door with no training and most of them with no clue on how to shoot one so theres my thought and opinion im sure most wont agree because they think its an infringement on our 2nd admitment right

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

i am surprised that nobody has said anything about the jobs that would be lost if they ban semi auto firearms. one of the only branches of business that is flourishing right now. lets put more people out of work shall we.

back to the task at hand.

most vehicles we drive in u.s. have the capability to go over 100 mph. these vehicles are used every day on roads that will never Legally allow you to drive over 80. yet everybody still buys these 100 mph + vehicles. car accidents and vehicle related deaths by far out weigh the firearm related deaths. why arent they banned and have all of the cars thrown in a big pit and burned while we all walk to work how would that be. of course nobody needs the cars to go over 100 mph. but guess what we have them. why. because WE CAN. do we really need semi auto weapons. maybe, maybe not. but there is more cause to ban 100+ mph cars than firearms. and by the way all of you idiot peace blah blah blah hippies out there. i am an American and i love my cars that can go over 100 mph i love my cheeseburgers and i enjoy shooting my semi auto firearms. not for the soul purpose of killing people, but for my own personal enjoyment. America was built with the understanding that a corrupt government would never allow their "subjects" to have firearms. why do you think they fled and came here in the first place. that is why it is important to keep this right in the constitution and not a chopped and diced version that corrupt politicians have molded to suit there needs. but a pure constitution that means what it states. that i have the right to keep and bear arms. even semi auto rifles and handguns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Guns don't kill people, if they did, they would go to jail for murder- not the murderers. Jk they kill peoplebut are good for self defense. If they were illegalized, it would lead to black market sales which would lead to higher crime. If it is legal, the government can use the money to do stuff.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I know this is an old debate but in light of today's events in Connecticut I have been doing a little poking around on the internet and came across this...

Here's my thought - Criminals and anyone who wants to get their hands on a gun, any gun, can and will. They don't care that guns are outlawed - in fact, that spurs some people on to have one just because the government says they can't. What, do we think that a criminal is going to sigh, throw up their hands and say "Gee, I guess I can't own a gun - gotta find something more productive and socially acceptable to do... " No, in fact - if we ban guns I believe the criminals are going to rejoice because it gives them an upper hand when committing their crimes.

Look at drugs - they are outlawed and banned but our children today are STILL dying from overdoses because drugs are still on the street. It didn't deter criminals from owning, using or distributing it. It will be the same with guns.

Tighter control - perhaps - but until you can GUARANTEE that no one, ever again, will be able to have a gun in their hands when coming into contact with me, I say we can't ban guns!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Attempting to use the logic that guns should be outlawed solely based on the fact that they make it easier to commit crimes and are involved in such a high number of crimes and deaths each year has me wondering what these same people would say about alcohol. Alcohol ranks higher than guns in both categories.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Typically it is the maniacs who own the guns who kill people. Sometimes, other methods of killing are used and have larger effects. For example, millions of jews were killed during the Holocaust, sometimes with guns, but more times than not they were killed by poison. Sometimes, bombs or blades are used more than guns. If no one has a gun, criminals will find some way of getting guns and killing the upstanding American citizen.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

I own a gun! check the news- I haven't hurt a soul except for the animals I was going to eat.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Heroin, weed, coke, meth, all of these things are illegal but the illegal drug business is worth over 1 billion dollars in the US! If a criminal wants a gun he will get one just like drugs. The only thing that would change is next time someone decided to kill someone it would be like shooting fish in a barrel!

We should have a right to defend ourselves!!!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

i don't believe that the problem is weapons. the problem in this nation is the poor up bringing of children, we have lost the values that built this great country, we have lost respect for human life and forgot that we are brothers and sisters in humanity and the channels of communication have been shadowed by violence and newer generations that only believe in the importance of self image and respect in the streets.

when i was an 8 year old girl my dad took me hunting for the first time, when i shot the rifle he gave me, i instantly fell in love with the sport. but it wasn't just the sport he taught me about, he also showed me the huge responsibility that lies behind that trigger but most of all he taught me that something so small like a bullet could change your life and someone Else's in the blink of an eye, and if you ever harm someone with it... it must come down to fearing for your life.

what we need in this country is education. we spend more money in prisons then colleges and then wonder why parents are not educating children with values now a days.

it isn't guns that kill people, is the mentality these people carry around in their heads that kill other people. there is a bigger picture then what we are seeing here, and a bigger monster to tackle. if someone wants to kill, they will kill, gun or no gun. banning guns is not the solution. education is.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No, because it is a second amendment right to allow citizens to keep firearms. To control the sale of them is one thing, to ban them entirely is unconstitutional and a over reaction.

Look at all the car accidents that result from reckless drivers. Should we ban the cars to prevent such accidents. No.

Such a overreaction is like burning down a house trying to roast a pig.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
SAXON(16) Disputed
1 point

But, do they not ban drunk drivers from driving again? I see you fail to understand the point of banning weapons. Just as cars do not kill people, but their drivers do, so do the owners of handguns. It is difficult to control those who would own guns just as it is difficult to control those who own cars. We cannot ban cars, BUT, we can ban those who have proven to be difficult the right to drive them. As weapons are not cars, but objects designed SOLELY TO KILL, they should be banned outright.

Side: Yes
2 points

Thing is, full on gun bans don't work. Not if you already have really lax gun laws to begin with. Not even restrictions would work in our society.

You see, millions, if not, probably trillions of firearms and related items have been diffused across the United states over the past sixty years. Like all material items, a lot of these guns, and I mean A LOT, have been traded, sold, bought again, or locked away in storage and forgotten. A lot of them at gun shows, where one can purchase a new or used firearm without having to register it. Even if the government were to go down the list, name by name, of everyone who's registered a firearm, at least 95% of those names would be outdated, as the owner had sold it a long time ago.

My next point is that we would be defenseless. Look at Australia, for instance. One small shooting and -BOOM!- No more guns. Of course, guns are not fully banned, but are really hard to acquire. That being said, when the government asked for all the guns back, the good, law-abiding people coughed them up, while the criminals kept them. This resulted in an increased crime rate. The baddies had nothing to fear, because the odds that their targets had a weapon was slim to none.

Lastly, even if you banned guns, and everyone -even the criminals- handed them in like good little minions, the criminals could very easily just acquire them illegally; That, or come after you with a hatchet or machete.

Honestly, if I had a choice, I'd rather be popped once in the head with a .45 than be hacked to death, piece by piece, while I'm still breathing. Wouldn't you?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

ENFORCE THE LAWS WE ALREADY HAVE, MORE THAN 10,000 PEOPLE DIE FROM DRUNK DRIVING AND MOST OF THEM ARE FROM SECOND AND THIRD OFFENDERS BECAUSE SOME PEICE OF SHIT MONEY HUNGRY LAWER GOT THEM OFF. tHE ASSHOLE WHO KILLED THOSE TWO FIREMAN ONLY DID 18 YEARS IN JAIL FOR KILLING HIS GRAND MOTHER WITH A HAMMER, HE KILLED A HUMAN BEING WITH A FREAKING HAMMER FOR GOD SAKE AND SOME LAWER GOT HIM TO ONLY SERVE 18 YEARS, PUT THAT LAWERS NAME ON THE INTERNET ALONG WITH THE JUDGE WHO LET HIM OUT. COME TO MY HOUSE AND TRY AND TAKE MY GUNS I ACTUALLY LEAVE MY DOORS UNLOCKED HOPING SOME POROLLED ASS HOLE BREAKS IN. IF MORE PEOPLE CARRIED GUNS ASSHOLES WOULD HAVE TO THINK TWICE ABOUT COMMITING A CRIME

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

What sucks is both sides have some valid points but one side is going about it all wrong. Limiting guns or their capacities to hold ammunition will not stop the violence it will only change the tools used but probably not even that as we see in examples.

Whats worse than guns in this country is our technicalities. All a technicality should do is save someone from being put to death. There should be no instances where we consider someones background for a crime committed and its sentence. But then again there are so many things considered a crime in this country any more just to generate capital that everything needs to be considered before a change like that can happen. We've complicated things so much because we allow feelings get in the way of the real agenda.

Protection is a basic right from anyone and from anything, murder is not and until that is addressed, all these what-if scenarios to create an agenda are wrong. Yes they occur and must be addressed but it should not be mixed into another agenda. The gun owners using any verbal ammunition no pun intended to protect their rights as you have seen are only retaliating to all these what-if scenarios you create to infringe on their rights, which is also your right if you choose to accept it. These men and women have not done anything wrong for you to attack them and are only defending themselves from an attack. The second amendment was put into law by the law for they knew the travesties that could happen when law corrupts. We as individuals know how the country 'should' work but we do not see all the gears turning and changing and many times these gedon'tdont get oiled or over oiled and we must keep our basic rights unscathed or we will then be scathed. I understand we are complex beings but if we keep over complicating certain things the real problems will never get addressed.

So to all you homos who write all these long drawn out stories thinking because of it your agenda has won because of it. Eat this. Mines bigger than most of yours and Im not talking about my story haha and I'm trained not controlled for all you wise a$$es haha.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
SAXON(16) Disputed
1 point

Tell me, what is the entire point of having a police force? If you have weapons, then why bother keeping a police force? Or a military for that matter? People like you simple do not get it.

Side: Yes
2 points

The number 1 weapon used in a violent crime is a baseball bat... Not a gun. Plus, when your endangered, the police are minutes away when only seconds count to save your life. Guns should not be banned because then the government would become to powerful. If it is a right, then that shouldn't be able to be taken away from you. they should take baseball bats away before guns because #1, they are easier to get. also, a gun is only dangerous if its used by the wrong person.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

"I ask, Sir, what is the millitia? It is the whole people, to disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them." -George Mason 1788

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

guns don't kill people. people kill people. its not everyone's right to have a gun but that doesn't mean they should be banned. we just need a true sense of self control and some more protection against guns by simply giving out bullet proof vest as some sort of promotion or public service.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Guns don't kill people. There should be perhaps more restrictions or background checks (for people with mental disorders, etc.) but the only people that would be affected by banning guns would be the lawful citizens. If you make it illegal to rob a bank, the criminals would continue robbing banks even if it was illegal. Criminals would still use guns. They don't care what the law is. Responsible gun owners (like myself) use them for lawful reasons. Mainly I have guns for hunting, riflery, etc. Not even with an emphasis on personal protection, however not against it.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

With bigger, more important issues than gun control looming around, I think gun control can wait. Plus, it isn't exactly a nat'l security threat, considering the current population, roughly 314 million strong, and birth rates in the US, 30k lives to gun related homicide a year is a small price to pay. You'd think, with the gun control side composed of lawyers with remarkable skill, they'd know better than to badger people with emotional pleas like their favorite argument, think of the children. These incidents are famous because they happen so rarely. My niece and nephew go out in public all the time and the come home in one piece 99.99% of the time. All I have to say to the parents of the Newtown victims is I'm sorry this happened to you, it is simply tragic, but dwelling on it won't make the pain go away, surely you understand that life is unfair and uncertain, I mean, you're all older and wiser than I am, right?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
2 points

Vince Vaughn Says "Banning Guns Is Like Banning Forks": Celebrities Respond http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf6UvWKV9PE

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

I don't understand why people think that by guns being banned in America would reduce crime? Of course it won't stop crime because criminals are not going to go buy a gun legally anyway, but rather from the back of the van.

Large majority of gun owners do not like the idea of the background check, which in my opinion does is a very good. I had a background check when I purchased my gun and no problems at all. I have absolutely no problem with that. Of course, it won't stop criminals completely, but at least it will reduce the number of those who should not own guns. In addition, criminals will think twice about harming someone when you live in a state where the gun laws are not so strict........and no, I am not a NRA member nor do I ever wish to be one.

Side: Keep the Guns Change the System
1 point

Guns are two sided. They can protect you when someone breaks into your house, but they can hurt if someone pulls one on you.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

• People can use the guns for self-defence.

• If we ban it, gangsters will be the only ones to be able to have guns by smuggling it. We won’t be able to defend ourselves.

• Many people will not use it to kill people so it wouldn’t matter a lot if everyone could get one.

• People will not be able to hunt for recreation.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

• People can use the guns for self-defence.

• If we ban it, gangsters will be the only ones to be able to have guns by smuggling it. We won’t be able to defend ourselves.

• Many people will not use it to kill people so it wouldn’t matter a lot if everyone could get one.

• People will not be able to hunt for recreation.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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1 point

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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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1 point

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Side: Yes

Guns dont kill people! I am against assualt gun bans! Not only are these toy fun and look good, they are a simble of American freedom. However gun education and gun safty are important. For example, teach a child not to play with guns and that they can and will kill people. Assualt guns are already tough to come by, this would only effect law abiding citizens! It would also mean people who illeagaly buy guns can so easily kill us without guns. So if you ban guns even more poeple might die to them. With a gun in your hand for defence you can kill the person tring to kill you. Beter them then you right?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

"I ask, Sir, what is the millitia? It is the whole people, to disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them." -George Mason 1788

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
SAXON(16) Disputed
1 point

You can be 'enslaved' whether you have the right to guns or not. You are going to use your handgun, with no training whatsoever, against highly-trained, well-equipped soldiers? None too bright, are you? Your state will enslave you whether you like it or not. Rather difficult to do in a democratic society, I should think.

Side: Yes
1 point

No guns don't kill people , people kill people

And saying gun kill people is saying that people don't toast , toast but that toast,toast,toast

Once after this debate went major I set out a gun with it loaded setting it in a lawn chair right beside me in my front yard and numerous people went by like the mailman guys on motorcycles and little girls playing and despite all the chances the gun had to shot someone about one thousand times that day and it never happened but then I went hunting found a nice deer and then I yes I shot the deer and it died by who me

Have you ever noticed that guns never get credit for killing but the person does ? That's because the person kills the person shots not the gun unless there like the toy story characters and walk around when I'm not looking which I highly doubt so people kill people and people toasts toast

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

With guns there is less crime, with no guns crime will go up by 99%

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
SAXON(16) Disputed
1 point

An absolutely ridiculous viewpoint. Those who commit such crimes have access to guns. Remove such access and you have no crime. One need only create a stronger police force, with tougher laws to back them up. The liberals have so weakened our laws against criminals that it is absurd. Capital punishment should be brought back and in greater force. Armed gangs should be wiped out via the use of your military. If you have a military, USE IT.

Side: Yes
1 point

Guns most certainly should be banned in America. As a Canadian, I know this argument better than any American alive today. Whilst true that guns do not kill people, they provide those with the ability to kill. Look at all of those school murders. The theatre murders. Need I go on? Had those who committed the murders been denied access to such weapons, those children would still be alive today. To allow others the ability to own guns puts our children in danger.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

This isn't very new, but it's true. If guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. I've heard supporters of gun control peck at this unoriginality, claiming it to be a weakness. The reason we repeat this is because it's true. Gun control needs to die and the people supported gun control should focus on what makes criminals. Also, before you blame money, it's not money, it's finding wants to be more important than things like morals and others

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

NO!

Obama= OneBigAssMistakeAmerica!

Hillary will be the death of this country.. I'm menopausal and I know I shouldn't have control of nukes! And that crazy bat should be in a straight jacket..

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

The Second Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

NO!!!

This great nation’s founding fathers adopted the 2nd Amendment in 1791, which protects the right of individuals to keep and bear arms in America:

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

I believe that once ultra liberal politicians and voters begin (actually they have already begun) to chip away and erode our inalienable constitutional rights, American as we currently know it, will quickly begin to implode within and eventually crumble. Just read history…its happened repeatedly since the dawn of civilization. If the 2nd amendment were to go away, then guess what, so then will the 1st amendment, 3rd amendment, 4 amendment, and so on. Starting to see a pattern here America?

Guns are just inanimate objects, no different than a car, a knife, a hammer or a baseball bat (all of which can just as easily kill people BTW). Hmmm, so lets outlaw cars, knives, hammers and baseball bats too. Yea right. Do you see how utterly ridiculous and useless gun control is!

So you see…guns don’t kill people…people kill people.

Lets focus on fixing the root of America's core problems: the mental health crisis, stop letting prisoners out of prison, stronger parental control over their children playing violent video games and TV, fixing our broken judicial system, and the list goes on and on.

Besides…even if all guns were confiscated by the government, tens of thousands of illegal guns will still be easily attainable via the black market and the cartels.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Idiots with guns: yes. Guns in general: no. If you don't keep your weapon secure around children, or give a machine gun to a kid to fire at your gun range( wtf?) or are deemed mentally unstable you should be deemed unworthy to carry a deadly firearm. Responsible people should own guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

The purpose of guns isn't to kill people. It's what people do with them, but it's not their purpose. Just like a kitchen knife isn't meant to cut things. It's meant to prepare food, as a gun is meant for protection. Also, mass shootings are a pretty recent phenomena and are relatively rare in the scope of gun violence. Guns save way more people than they endanger, it's just that mass shootings make for juicier stories than self-protection in a home invasion. Banning guns is essentially taking away our INALIENABLE right to protect ourselves. Criminals don't follow the law, so what makes you think a criminal wouldn't own a gun illegally in a ban. The only thing that happens is an imbalance of power has been made. Certain people, namely criminals and police, are now more powerful than the people in need of protection. As for "heavier" guns, I think that ownership of them comes with freedom. Anyone has the choice to own a fast car, but those kill more people than guns do, so why not ban them? Because it's ridiculous.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

The purpose of guns isn't to kill people. It's what people do with them, but it's not their purpose. Just like a kitchen knife isn't meant to cut things. It's meant to prepare food, as a gun is meant for protection.

I am against banning guns in America, but this argument does not make sense. The purpose of a gun is to fire a lethal projectile for the purposes of hunting or protection, and the purpose of a kitchen knife is to cut things for the purpose of food preparation.

Guns save way more people than they endanger, it's just that mass shootings make for juicier stories than self-protection in a home invasion.

That is very true. You'll get far more viewers from covering mass shootings than you will covering a story about how gun related crimes are at a historic low, and still decreasing.

Banning guns is essentially taking away our INALIENABLE right to protect ourselves. Criminals don't follow the law, so what makes you think a criminal wouldn't own a gun illegally in a ban.

It doesn't take away our inalienable right to protect ourselves, it just makes it harder. One could still protect themselves without a gun, though you'd have to try a lot harder. As for criminals, the fact that some people will break a law is generally not considered a good reason to avoid having said law all together.

Side: Yes
1 point

Guns are security and safety tools. If you take them away there is less security.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

...which is why in America, guns are used as a murder weapon twice as often as every other murder weapon combined.

Supporting Evidence: Source (www.businessinsider.com)
Side: Yes
WalterWhite(65) Disputed
1 point

That report shows clearly that it's people killing people, not guns. Look at Switzerland.

And then there are lies, damn lies and statistics.

"... children are already pretty safe in schools as is. A very small number of the 30,000 annual gun deaths take place in schools." So where's the problem?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Can a gun get up, walk over to someone, and shoot them? No. It's the person behind the gun because think about it. For a war or conflict to be started, it needs to be started by someone who can declare war. Someone who can say, "this is war". Guns can make decisions, guns can't talk, guns can't move around on there own. For the people who think guns shouldn't be aloud I think live in a cartoon, a g rated cartoon.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

No Guns don't kill people, its the person who holds it that kills people.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

As a tool, guns certainly kill people. Well, bullets do, rather, but that's nit picking. The person using the gun is indeed responsible, but when one uses a tool, that tool is certainly being used.

So yes, the bullet fired by the gun is doing the killing. The person who holds it simply decides who is being killed. It's nonsense, but that's the nature of this whole "Guns don't kill people, people do" shtick that really has no legitimate place in a conversation about guns.

Side: Yes
stratos(85) Disputed
1 point

Guns are useful, especially if a government would be susceptible to tyrannism, and I would put verification laws that would go survey and examine ones person mental health etc., Yes it has a legitimate place in the conversation about guns... Who uses the guns? People, and who's been doing terror attacks? People, reasons why these people do terror attacks? Depression and Illegal or unlicensed firearms and most of them have mental disabilities.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Guns do not do the killing. It is a mere choice whether to partake in such a demeaning activity. You are the murderer, not the gun. In fact, weaponry can also be argued to be a manoeuver of self defence!

Take that!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Guns are items made by people to kill people.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

I don´t have a point to be making here. I am literally the period between the V.S. However I know that guns kill people, because if people did not have guns then less people would be killed. However a lot of people use guns for self defense and while I am not a huge supporter of it, hunting. So guns should be limited and harder to get.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Guns can kill people yes but that doesn't mean everyone should have to pay for something suicidal phycopaths do. I have guns my grandpa knows how to make guns there is nothing wrong with having guns and anyone who blames everyone who has a gun is completely insane i dint care how many people i offend third is my opinion and if your offended by it then your just like my sister, hella lame and unable to take a insult so ya i would type more but i gt

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

I don't think guns should be banned because they are such a strong part of american culture. Back in colonial times, everyone had a gun. America was still mostly a frontier at the time. It was partially because of this that the revolutionists were able to fight back against the army of the world's superpower, they all had weapons and knew how to use them. That gun culture remains in america today.

The right to bear arms is also one of the constitutional amendments, so that almost ensures that guns will remain legal.

On the other hand, I do think that restrictions should be tightened. As it is now, background checks and restrictions are way too loose. Every few weeks there is a new school shooting, and I have heard of so many gun deaths and accidents from people close to me. Yes, guns should stay legal, just more restricted.

And for those of you who say "I can use it to protect myself from criminals", tell me. How many times has that EVER happened? I bet you can find a few examples somewhere on the internet. But the ratio of Gun Accidents to Guns Used in Self-Defense is very high.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

People kill people not guns. People use guns out of their own free will.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Obviously guns dont kill people. It is the people shooting the weapon. There are absolutely no reason not to use guns. If someone is attacking you, no one would tell me that they wouldn't want to protect themselves. If guns were to be banned people would find a way to use them and make them themselves. Why not just keep them legal. There is absoultley no reason not too. Tell me if you disagree why or why not please!!!

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Not everyone should have a gun. Some people have unstable personalities. However, everyone has a right to a gun. The 2nd amendment guarangees that in case no one else is there to defend you, you can defend yourself. Criminals will always find ways to break the law. Do you think they are going to abide by having their weapons confiscated?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

If your sister, daughter, or grandma was to be sexually assaulted by a bigger, stronger man a gun could save their life. Now you may think pepper spray or a taizzer to be the option, but many professional criminals can fight even after being sprayed, and were do you buy a taizzer anyway?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

In my opinion the right to be able to defend ourselves shall not be infringed upon. Should a better job be done with enforcing existing gun laws? Absolutely. Should there be a waiting period for a more extensive check? There should be.

Should armed guards be present at schools? Why not, we protect inanimate objects with guns all over, our children are worth more than everything else. it's just my opinion and in the grand scheme of things majority rules. So we will see where we go next

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

No. But like any other tool (especially deadly ones) they should be carefully regulated. There should be thorough competency checks before a gun is issued.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Just because a gun can be dangerous, doesn't mean no-one can have one. Countries with no guns have lower rates of gun crime - but that doesn't mean you can forcibly take a gun off of someone who owns one. What would end up happening would be that law-abiding people would hand in their guns, but there would still be people (including a lot of dangerous people, as well as people that just want a gun) who just don't hand in their guns.

In the American Constitution, it states that: "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Changing the amendments can't (or rather shouldn't) be done. The amendments are there to ensure the freedom of the people - guns are allowed so people can protect their freedom from the government. If you were to just ignore the second amendment and ban guns completely, it would end up being a lot easier or seem more possible to change other amendments (for example freedom of speech).

By all means, gun control laws could be increased, but it isn't a good idea to just ban guns completely.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Banning guns would just leave good people defenseless while criminals would still have their guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

It is too late to ban guns in America. If this was attempted now, only the good guys would surrender their fire arms. Instead, what is required is more stringent mental health and background checks.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Weaponry will never stop evolving, so why ban them now;

Only threats to society's lives ought to banned, and people responsible must be dealt with, till to an extant of removing them with very guns we think of banning.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

The actual gun is not in any form responsible for the killing of other people, it is the person that is responsible for the damages caused by him/her.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
0 points

The actual gun is not in any form responsible for the killing of other people, it is the person that is responsible for the damages caused by him/her.

That is absolutely stupid. The damage can't be caused without the weapon so obviously the weapon plays a factor in the killing. You might as well try to convince us that the nuclear bomb is in no way responsible for the killing of 250,000 people at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I am puzzled by how any person can even believe such ridiculous nonsense.

Side: Yes
zeltii(10) Disputed
2 points

Although I do understand what you are saying, a person was responsible for dropping the bomb. No weapon goes off without someone touching a trigger. If a gun were to lie on a table and shoot a wall in an empty room then I could see how "guns kill people". It is hard to explain my reasoning in words but it all comes down to this. A gun is a weapon controlled by a human being, it does not make its own choices so therefor it is not responsible.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

While I favor some restrictions on guns, I do believe that any form of protection or self defense for adults is a right. I am very moderate on guns.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

Guns do not kill people. People kill people. I am doing research on school shootings and my answer/solution is not to ban guns. If someone is going to commit a crime or create mass hysteria they will do so if they want to. They do not necessarily need to use a gun, they can use any form of weapon they need. If the intention is there, a person will do it.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

I think that gun deaths are statistical minority of the about 30,000 gun deaths about 20,000 were suicides 30,000 people are injured by toilets every year and about the same amount of people die in motor cycle accidents additionally that was counting gang shootings and police shooting people also with the types of shootings a lot of people seem to think about pushing people away from guns could be dangerous in and of itself as they will resort to using more effective weapons like explosives.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
0 points

I think that gun deaths are statistical minority of the about 30,000 gun deaths about 20,000 were suicides

People who commit suicide are still dead. I'm extremely confused why Americans think guns aren't a problem despite being confronted with evidence that 20,000 people per year use them to kill themselves.

In 2019, there were 15,292 fatal shootings in the United States excluding suicides, so were you just planning to ignore those statistics?

Side: Yes
HellNope(68) Disputed
1 point

People who commit suicide are still dead. I'm extremely confused why Americans think guns aren't a problem despite being confronted with evidence that 20,000 people per year use them to kill themselves.

More than that many people used pills to off themselves. I know! Let's ban pills! You stupid little retard.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns have always been legal but murder rates have only gotten this high very recently. And that's not just because of population growth. Clearly murder rates are going up for some other non-gun-related reason. I'd say it relates to mental health and lack of parenting and social interaction.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
1 point

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Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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ALgalhunter(10) Disputed
1 point

They are not a waste. I use them for hunting, an important pastime not only for food but for growing closer with my family for which it is a tradition. Also for personal protection, and marksmanship, a worthwhile hobby.

Side: Yes
kmn1297(32) Disputed
1 point

ummm you appear to view the other side. maybe you should figure out which side you are on first. but your point is perfect. I am going to guess you own a gun.

Side: No, guns don't kill people.
SAXON(16) Disputed
1 point

Hunting is an important pasttime? Never heard of a grocery store?

Side: No, guns don't kill people.