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Should guns be banned in America?


Yes

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No, guns don't kill people.

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I don't agree entirely with this, but automatic and semi automatic weapons should be banned. Gun don't kill people, people do is a valid statement, but a homicidal person with a semi automatic weapon can kill a whole lot more people before being controlled than if they had a knife. As for non-automatic weapons, they should require a license.

1461 days ago
wowbob396(4) Disputed
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Semi-automatic guns shoot single rounds.... So we can't have pistols but are allowed to only used 12 gauge pump shotguns or hunting rifles?

842 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

guns aren't needed on the daily by people outside of the armed forces so i really don't see a need for us carrying guns. it only leads to violence and gangbanging anyways...

besides, i remember reading once that in the countries that had banned guns and an over 90% less deaths to weaponry than in the u.s. now THAT says something.

1368 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Republican2(345) Disputed
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Banning guns wouldn't bring down gun violence significantly because people who are committing gun crimes are getting their guns illegally in the first place. And other countries that have banned guns have alot more variables to consider besides just banning guns alone. most other countries have a much tighter justice system that doesn't give any wiggle room for crimes in general let alone gun crimes.

930 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
igetsyolked(17) Disputed
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Democrats all the way son!!! Obama Obama Obama... Republicans are bums

743 days ago | Side: yes
s0m3b0dy(41) Disputed
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if a robber came in your house you would want a gun.

1250 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
xaeon(1051) Disputed
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Actually, no I wouldn't.

If a robber came into my house in an area where gun ownership is legal, I'd have to seriously consider whether or not this person is also going to have a gun; why would they enter my house unarmed if they knew that chances were that I would have a gun? All this is going to do is cause a shootout, with most likely someone (50% chance it's me) getting shot.

I'd rather hand over my stuff (it's just stuff), claim on the insurance afterwards and have a greatly reduced risk of ending up dead.

1189 days ago | Side: yes
igetsyolked(17) Disputed
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yup yup your wrong there bum. People need weapons to protect their liquor stores from being robbed by your people bum. U.S. is supposed to be in caps you uneducated bum. I buy your people bum.

743 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Houston(184) Disputed
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guns aren't needed on the daily by people outside of the armed forces so i really don't see a need for us carrying guns. it only leads to violence and gangbanging anyways...

What about hunting? Anyway, guns are illegally imported everyday. If there was a gang that was coming into my house, trying to rob me, I would want my gun to kill them.

besides, i remember reading once that in the countries that had banned guns and an over 90% less deaths to weaponry than in the u.s. now THAT says something.

That's not true. If it is, then show me a link. In a Australia they band guns, and guess what? Crime went up drastically. Bad guys are always going to have weapons, it's just a fact. So, shouldn't me or you have the right to protect ourselves?

722 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ungernick28(21) Disputed
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actually austrailia has one of the lowest gun mortality rates in the whole world

664 days ago | Side: yes
Bohemian(3436) Disputed
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Yes, because 'gang-bangers' got their guns from legal sources to begin with?

Banning guns will stop gun violence, like the prohibition stopped people from drinking. All this would do is create a greater demand for an illegal gun trade.

And again, I must reiterate, that we still have a Constitutional Guarantee to own guns.

691 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
CROSSBOW(9) Disputed
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Guns are need by people outside of the armed forces. If the government told us to turn our guns in it would lead to more violence. Criminals who do not follow the laws will keep their guns or get them illegally. In Australia, the government banned weapons in 1996, after a publicized shooting. Immediately after the ban, armed robberies rose by 73 percent, unarmed robberies by 28 percent, kidnappings by 38 percent, assaults by 17 percent, and manslaughter by 29 percent. The United Kingdom had similar results. We have the right to bear arms and to protect our life and freedom even if you think we don't.

537 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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yea, but only if you'd kill someone with it.

it's a good decoration item!

1360 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Absolutely they should be banned. There are almost no cases where an innocent person has defended themselves with a gun. And sure guns don't kill people, but the death rate would definately go down if people did not have easy access to weapons. I mean look at the VT incident. A college kid, with a clearly bad background record, managed to buy guns and ammo. We outlaw gun's and stuff like that does not happen

1261 days ago | Side: yes
jeter42(10) Disputed
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Wrong! Last year 2.5 million people were saved by using a gun for self defense. I don't consider that "almost no cases where an innocent person has defended themselves."

1155 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
onlydo(22) Supported
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i can prove that here:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1071444

Oh and i used you in my Bibliography for my essay!

1117 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
shdjftgkorg(7) Disputed
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probama it would still happen you F*ing moron if they arent afraid of going to prison for killing people they definately wouldnt be afraid to get a gun illegaly.

1142 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
onlydo(22) Supported
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1117 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
MBurke12(81) Disputed
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Guns are illegal in Chicago.

How do you explain Chicago having the highest homicide rate?

Don't worry... I'll wait.

1190 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
iamdavidh(3790) Disputed
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Where'd you read that? The NRA Newsletter?

Highest gun related death per capita: DC, where guns are legal link

Lowest gun related death per capita: Hawaii, where guns are illegal link

And see Xaeon's arguement below.

Chicago is like 15 on the list. link And considering the poverty rate, and that it's the 3rd largest city (and probably the second most dense) that's actually not bad.

1190 days ago | Side: yes
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In case you different do other research, Chicago has one of the highest crime rates in the entire country. Crime rates equals criminals which means if guns are illegal, they must be getting them from somewhere, hmmm, i wonder where, black market or illegal selling across borders anyone?

1189 days ago | Side: yes
lundwall9(13) Disputed
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ever since we put registration on guns and making guns harder to get school shooting started. we need to allow students to carry concealed guns on campus. with the VT shooting if one student had been allowed to carry a gun on them the shooter would have ended it early and many people would still be alive today. it needs to be a law that we enforce to make every home have at least on gun to protect your self

1015 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
trabb22
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Hey I'm all for gun rights but not on campus. Think of all the hormonal students waking up early every morning (god knows what they did last night) and going to class with a sidearm in their jacket. What happens when a fist fight between two boys turns into a shootout. Then the next thing you know someone sees their friend getting shot at and they pull a gun. Next thing you know theres about ten kids with guns drawn shooting at each other. I think that might create a few more deaths on a regulaur basis than once in a schools lifetime a single shooter. But I remeber hearing that in one school shooting students had shotguns in their car that they got to and they brought down the attacker. I think that is acceptable but not unregestered guns in students back pockets.

640 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
irrevocable(1) Disputed
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Have you actually read the newspaper? There are several cases and some that a gun prevented them from being a dead victim. I speak from experience. As for the easy access of guns, criminals would have access to guns in the black market regardless if they banned guns. Cocaine is illegal but some how people still gain access to it...well, how does that happen?

1152 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Prometheus(23) Disputed
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Well look at prohibtion in 1919 and on, also known as the Volstead act. Alcohol was completely banned yet everybody still drank. They found ways to drink. People had to brew underground, and drink in underground bars, but it happened. Even major Authorities including police and judges were found down there. The same things would happen with guns, and who would be the people to illegally own guns? Not harmless hunters, but gangsters and other criminals who are dangerous with such weapons. It is still going to happen. Maybe we just need tighter gun laws when purchasing them.

1128 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
mekody(12) Disputed
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If we outlaw guns that stuff will still happen because they are already illegally getting guns.

1083 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
igetsyolked(17) Disputed
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yous a jock bum son stick to football girl. So what your favorite football team?

743 days ago | Side: yes
sicktoad
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1,145 times a day handguns are used against robbers. 416 times each day women use their handguns to protect themselves from rapists. Overall, a gun in the home is 216 times more likely to be used in self defense than to cause the death of an innocent victim. And even if you don't own a gun, preserving the right of your neighbors to own them is one of the best ways to keep criminals out of your neighborhood.

945 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
jimmykole(23) Supported
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hey i agree but where did you get your facts from...............................................................

893 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
shaneyam99(109) Disputed
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just because you make it illegal to buy a gun you will never and i mean never get all the guns off the street because the import guns illegally they buy guns without ffa regulation and peple are not stupid and they will find a way to make themselves weapons such as the book writtem by Bill Holmes published in 2002 titled .50-Caliber Rifle Construction Manual

897 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
mariohomeboy(6) Disputed
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Look at China, UK, Australia...homicides in general and crime rates have RISEN since their gun bans...yeah sure they're less GUN deaths but they're more DEATHS in GENERAL. Search up "China Stabbings" on how 1 knife killed 11 people.

Guns take life, guns save lifes. Having no guns just will cause lives to be lost.

555 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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accoding to my statstics thats still a quater of the american homocide rate. also i dont tink that the knife crime is a valid arguement seing as im pretty sure you get more than 11 rounds in a gun.

im not trying to argue that stopping guns will prevent crime, but im pretty sure that if the person in china had had a gun, it would have been a hell of a lot worse

435 days ago | Side: yes

yes because some people in America cannot be trusted with one i understand that if its for your protection then yeah go ahead and have one but I'm just saying most crimes happen with handguns.

1214 days ago | Side: yes

i do not think all guns should be banned, but certainly some. if your a hunter and you want to kill a deer, then go and by a rifle, but do you really need an AK-47 to kill a little deer? and if your buying a gun for protection, then that is just stupid. there are plenty of things you can do before resorting to a gun for protection. get a guard dog, buy an alarm, or move near a place with a lower crime rate. you could also buy a taser or pepper spray.

939 days ago | Side: yes
Houston(184) Disputed
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First, AK-47s have to be semi automatic to be available for civilian use. Second, dogs are good for protection, but mainly intimidation. (I have a German Shepherd and a Great Pyrenees so I'm NOT saying dogs aren't good for keeping your house safe). A bullet in a dog will stop any breed of dog you have, even if it is a 100lb+ dog. Also, guns are great for protection. If you have a shotgun, a robber that just hears you when you cock it will think "#@$%!" And if it comes to it, a homeowner will normally pull the trigger in self defense (be sure to get him good in the first shot because only the first shot counts as self defense, all the other shots are assault =D). Pepper spray and tasers are do not have the stopping power to save you from a criminal. If s/he is flailing on the ground he can still pull the trigger, and might hit you. Lastly, what has America come to when you have to move your home because of crime rates? If you want to save money, buy a gun and any other form of defense you want.

786 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ungernick28(21) Disputed
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but most burgerlery's happen when you arn't even home, in which case the gun is mostly likly to be stolen itself. now a criminal has a gun in his hands

664 days ago | Side: yes

The second amendment wasnt for people to start killing each other, it was for the creation of the militia. Guns in America, are supposed to keep this world a better place, however, it doesnt do that at all, it only allows criminals to commit crimes. It definetly doesnt protect anyone from anything, it only harms the people of this country. And yea, I get that many people save themselves from the criminals that break into their house or try to rape them, but half the time thats not the case.

930 days ago | Side: yes
khaOs(13) Disputed
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"...it only allows criminals to commit crimes..."

REALLY?! That's interesting. Riddle me this: How would one STOP a criminal with a gun who is committing a crime?

"...It definetly doesnt protect anyone from anything, it only harms the people of this country."

You're joking, right? You don't think peoples lives have been saved because they carry a firearm? Why do you think people choose to carry guns in the first place? Because they want to shoot someone?

Let's look at BIG PICTURE, for a moment: GUNS protected the LIFE and LIBERTY and FREEDOM that you now take for granted in this country.

811 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
uoknow(18) Disputed
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Riddle me this: How would one STOP a criminal with a gun who is committing a crime?

this is why we ban guns isn't it?

728 days ago | Side: yes
dutchrock
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even if guns were banned they would still be sold illegally but the hundreds of children dieing because they think its a toy wouldn't be here anymore if the police and the military kept their guns the criminals with the illegal guns would have a much lower gun supply. I am not American and in Europe you need a license to buy guns which already by far lowers the crime rate. America or the world with out guns would be a better place with less shootings, by far. Guns only protect from other guns and create firefights the military and police may need them but for what does anyone else need them? the police can protect you with no guns you aren't a threat to criminals and they wont have guns.

I rest my case

469 days ago | Side: yes
travisvadon(5) Disputed
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I find is odd all the responses, so far in the debate, have not touched on the main reason, in my mind, why I would never let the law makers take the 2nd amendment away. It's not for the protection of home invaders, it's not for hunting and it's not even for attacks on the street, it's for protection from the powers to be. I believe the MAIN reason we should all support the 2nd amendment is to keep the power of gun ownership in our hands and not in the hands of the government. If all American citizens loose their right to gun ownership the only ones left with the guns are the police.... and this is a scary thought.

840 days ago | Side: law
Tames1(1) Supported
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I agree exactly what I would say

Some people can be idiots with guns

734 days ago | Side: yes
Bender226(6) Disputed
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The second amendment was created for the following reasons: deterring undemocratic government, repelling invasion, suppressing insurrection, facilitating the natural right of self defense, participating in law enforcement and slave control in slave states (no longer applicable). So the second amendment is in place so people can kill other people under certain circumstances, that is of course what guns are for in the first place. Theres good reason why 12 year olds can't vote, or for that matter own guns.

841 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Bohemian(3436) Disputed
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Regardless of whether or not you think guns cause more harm than good, this is not the issue. We have a constitutional guarantee, a right to bear arms. We cannot simply disregard the constitution when we don't like what it says.

The right to bear arms, is a check on the government. It was set in place to ensure that if the government oversteps it's boundaries that the collective will of the people, could if necessary revolt and start from scratch. It is meant as a last resort against tyranny.

692 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
amber55044(1) Disputed
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Do you really think that if the government were to try and take over, that your 22 in your gunsafe is going to hold off trained soldiers with automatic rifles? In today's society there is no reason for guns. The right to bear arms was fine when everyone had the same revolver or single-round chambered rifle, but things have changed a bit since then.

462 days ago | Side: Get rid of guns entirely
Urstupid1(1) Disputed
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None of you understand, stopping the selling of guns won't stop criminals. It will allow them to get away with MORE. You people fail to realize if someone is intent on committing a crime they will most likely GET A GUN, stopping the selling of guns will just restrict civilians from protecting themselves. If someone wants a gun for a bad purpose... they MOST likely WILL get one Illegally and it probably wont be as hard as most of you seem to think.

Gun ban = No civilians can protect themselves using a firearm = Criminals can illegally purchase guns, like tons already do. You people are stupid

623 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ha1fpint2002(1) Supported
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I agree with Urstupid , no matter what . . Stupid people will still buy guns illegally . They will find a way , and im not giving up my guns for nobody . i bought and payed for them the legal way . and if someone came in my home and tryed to rob or kill me I WILL have a gun to protect myself.

184 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
way875(1) Disputed
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Read the CONSTITUTION, or founders knew you long before you were born.

They protect you from yourself.

88 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Yes of course!!Guns might hurt people or even kill people!The point is:u cannot control the ones actually have guns!They will hurt people when they want!!They will use their guns!!If u don't ban it,what is the use of police??They trained to be strong and catch the thieves...Now,all Americans got guns..Even police cannot stop them from stealing..(because they got guns either)...So how can we let the Americans hurt people by using guns again and again?

918 days ago | Side: yes
wowbob396(4) Disputed
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This is a very flawed point of view. For one, guns are meant for self defense and to fight wars. Even if we did ban guns people will still get them, how do you think people get weed? Keeping guns legal would keep the black market activity down and with people without guns it would be so easy to rob someone's house. Besides you can't carry a cop around with you now can you?

842 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

everybody is talking about how the government is going to take over, and guns will be the only way to protect ourselves. it sounds like some bad movie premise. how has the government taken over exactly, and what is so bad if it did? i mean isn't a nation supposed to be run by a government? if we were under the control of a tyrant, then i could understand, but we live in a democracy. we choose our leaders, and can impeach them if we do not like them. it is not a perfect system i know, but it ensures that no person can take control of our country. even if somebody did, then do you really think a gun is going to be you saving grace? if there was a so called tyrant, then he probably has taken over the militia, and do you think that you would win against a trained solider who probably has better weapons.

903 days ago | Side: yes
Houston(184) Disputed
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We are not a democracy, we are a republic. In case of a military coup', or a bad president somehow holding on to power, we need guns.

if there was a so called tyrant, then he probably has taken over the militia, and do you think that you would win against a trained solider who probably has better weapons.

The US Armed Forces has 1.5 million personnel. The population is about 350 million. Currently 21.6% of Americans own a firearm. Thats 1.5 million v.s. 60 million. And we have all economic powers on our side. Its hands down, BP and other gas stations have the gas the military needs, and we also have the food they need. We might even be one of the few countries left who's citizens could defeat the military. Also, I just realized this, but in the event of WWIII, we could have 60+ million soldiers. Along with the 44% of the world's military budget, we could easily conquer the world.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_of_Americans_own_guns

643 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

And Virginia Tech was not an "incident," it was a massacre. If all the students had also had guns then there is no way that asshole could have killed as many innocent people as he did. My condolensces to the families of the victims.

If all the students also had guns, there'd be massacres on a regular basis.

Guns don't kill people, people do, but people with plastic butter knives kill far fewer people than people with guns.

722 days ago | Side: yes

gun's are baaaaaad crack. they should so be banned, too many young people can access them too easily! BAN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

699 days ago | Side: yes

both guns and knives kill people, but guns are way more effective at doing so, that's why we send soilders over seas with guns and not knives, and that is why guns should be banned because they are too effective as weapons

664 days ago | Side: yes
Houston(184) Disputed
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Guns being effective is a good thing. If I was a 40 year old man with a wife and kid, and someone barged into my house trying to rob/harm us, I would shoot him. Also, guns being effective is great for hunting, I've seen people try to hunt with bows, it's insanely hard.

643 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

all guns are used for is killing, they are weapons. that is why we should outlaw them, because all they are made to do is kill. sure you can kill with other things, but most homicide weapons are guns.

664 days ago | Side: yes

guns are made to kill, if not then can you tell me how they can be used without shooting at somthing?

664 days ago | Side: yes
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Guns should be far more restricted than they are now. We have far higher murder rates than almost any other first-world country. Yes, it's important to protect 2nd amendment rights. But they should not be unrestricted.

In Arizona, the Republican led state legislature has become enamored with a law allowing concealed weapons on every university campus in the state - the schools cannot ban them. What's worse, they originally wanted to extend that to the public school system!

I have a number of friends who are good, honorable gun owners. I know they are very responsible with their weapons.

I also have a friend who is border-line mentally disabled, and was given a concealed weapons permit. Once, I took him to the local convenience store to buy him a Coke. When we returned, there was a guy walking toward the house, with the intention of stealing his bike. "Oh no! I've got my .45 there!"

This nitwit left a loaded .45 in a bike bag, and parked the bike in the driveway unlocked - instead of leaving it inside the fenced yard, which was guarded by a Rottweiler and a German Shepard! Never mind the fact that had he said something, of course he could have put the freaking thing in the locked house!

He's a security guard, and a few months later he decided to take the gun to work. Never mind that he's only licensed as an unarmed guard. It's against the law for him to have a gun with him. Never mind that the company he worked for didn't have a license for him to have it, either. So what does he do? Of course! He left the same loaded .45 in his LUNCH BOX, unguarded on his desk at work, where it was stolen!

I have two huge problems with both these situations:

1. I completely object to being forcibly made part of a gun battle between someone like this and a shooter. I know this guy, and he's more likely to have the gun taken from him and used against him or someone like me, than he ever would be to defend anyone.

2. People like this unwittingly supply the black market to street thugs at discount prices no less.

His right to a gun has to be weighed against my right to be secured from his negligence.

Don't involve me in a fantasy some people seem to have that this is the wild west and every theater and fast food place is the OK Corral.

Responsible gun ownership, please?!

1465 days ago | Side: yes
Bender226(6) Disputed
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Well if you would like more gun restriction why not just move to Chicago where they are basically banned. First of all, you do not have a right to safety, if your friend was acting in a negligent manner with his firearm and breaking the law then he shall be prosecuted. To demand that other people forfeit their rights as guaranteed by the constitution so you can gain a false illusion of safety and security is absurd, although sadly this is the view of many today. Just about every downfall of a free nation to a totalitarian one begins with irrational fear, then the removal of human rights in the name of public safety. In regard to your "problems".

1. Whether or not you object to being in an unsafe situation is irrelevant, you are responsible for your own safety in the end. Don't like it? Too bad, as I said being safe is not a right, it's your responsibility. Easy solution, don't hang out with that guy.

2. People like this do not supply the black market in significant numbers, as most gun owners are not this irresponsible, although a lot of illegal guns are stolen and straw purchases. But nonetheless, it really makes no difference where they come from because as long as there is a demand, there will be a supply, if they can no longer steal guns, they will illegally import them, if they can no longer import them they will fabricate them themselves. Don't think that is possible, then you are very ignorant of reality because they can fabricate fully automatic assault rifles in third world countries with primitive tools and skills, and I have even seen cases of people making a .22 handgun in a state prison.

This argument is so exhausted there's no other word for it than stupid. And it's not just guns, it's the prohibition of anything. This country has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that banning any type of item does not work, and in fact only makes the problem significantly worse. It has not worked with alcohol, the war on drugs is an even more impressive failure and waste of money, it has not worked with the current restrictions on firearms, and will not work with any further ones. If gun restrictions worked in this country, Chicago and DC would be the safest places in America, in which they are not, and Vermont and New Hampshire would be the most dangerous.

841 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
diomedes5(15) Supported
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The police will do an excellent job at investigating the murder of you or your loved one but they will NOT protect you from it happening. Those that are so against gun ownership and concealed carry have never been the direct victim of a violent crime.

712 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
way875(1) Disputed
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There is some wackos out there, to me YOU are one of them as well, and YOU dont need a gun. But I would never stand in the way of every perfect mental sane person owning a bazoka, machine gun or any other type weapon.

I am a COP and 21 years Military, WHO ARE YOU JOKER>

Take my rights away because you hang around the mentals.

88 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Most objects have the potential to be a threat. A knife sitting on a kitchen table may be harmless but in the hands of a thief it can be deadly. Guns have more potential to be dangerous than knives but simply being dangerous is not grounds for banning an object.

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
genericguy(18) Disputed
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"simply being dangerous is not grounds for banning an object."

What?! Of course it should! Under that logic, all drugs should be legal. Surely you can see a problem with that.

1461 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
wowbob396(4) Disputed
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That is why we have a license for certain guns.... You drive a car knowing the risks and that you can die from driving them, people still drive them anyways.

842 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
aceslick911(11) Disputed
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No. There is a difference between 'dangerous' and a 'threat'. A car is dangerous because it can run you over but it is not a threat. It can be a threat if it's driven by a mad man.

Drugs are not 'dangerous' just sitting on a table with no-one to consume them. They become a threat when they are handed out to kids on the street.

1459 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Well you guys have answered the question already danielcraig and ta9798. A totally sensible approach with the only, somewhat irrational argument for retaining your weapons to defend against the Government! Sorry THEDert, but hardly likely or relevant, at least we hope! Lets face it, history dictates we are hardly a nice race are we? We use any excuse to batter the living daylights out of each other; race, religion, fun, etc. To think how much more advanced we'd be if we didn't constantly flatten everything we've spent time and money building and spent those resources on developing our society. But hey, it'll never happen. It's a sad world we live in where certain life forms find it necessary to fly planes into buildings. Disarming the terminally insane would be a good start, but who's to judge who're the insane?!

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns should be banned everywhere.

1461 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
OTdarters(38) Disputed
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That provides no logical defense for your side.

1423 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Yes guns should be banned in America. In the UK, deaths by guns are a lot lower. The reason is that it's still harder for the average man in the street to obtain a gun. The American Constitution states "The right to bear arms" and the Americans seem to feel really strongly about protecting this right. Obviosly the constitution is held in high esteem to the Americans, based on their history and pride of independence. However you can't hold onto values and laws that have lost their importance or value. At the time of the American Declaration of Independance, which, I imagine would have led to the drawing up of the rules in the constitution, life and times were completely different. Shootings and murder were everywhere, and if I was George Washington writing a proclamation for a new world, then it makes perfect sense to give the citizens of this new world, the right to defend their land, property, and life. And for this reasons Americans have guns. But, if you can't get hold of one, you can't kill someone with it. It's a simple argument really, guns kill.

1174 days ago | Side: yes
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Guns should be banned and there will be extremely low cases of gun related murder.

If guns over the world is banned, we will get world peace for a while.

1169 days ago | Side: yes
Republican2(345) Disputed
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That is completely ridiculous. If guns were banned, people would get the elsewhere (ever heard of the black market???) and the law abiding citizens would be defenseless. And world peace??? There is no way that's possible right now no matter what you ban. Guns are not the only way violence is carried out. Do your research.

930 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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people will still get guns and whats going to happen to all the guns all over the world. there will never be world peace. there will always be weapons. people will always kill other people. its as simple as that

896 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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any of u frix ever heard of the black market??? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!

938 days ago | Side: yes
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itz gud 4 everybody cuz it helps u alot on eveyry problem u gt no matter wat

933 days ago | Side: yes
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930 days ago | Side: yes
shaneyam99(109) Disputed
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what the hell is balsthis and are you a moron because i feel bad for you if you are but if your not then how the hell do you possibly think you are contributung to the debate?

896 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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i don't think we should ban all guns, but certainly some. if you want to hunt, then go ahead a buy a hunting rifle, but what if the purpose of a gun other then that. getting one for protection is stupid since there are many other options you have before resorting to a gun for protection. think about getting an alarm, moving to a low crime area, or buying a guard dog. i think guns such as AK-47's are overkill and should be banned. do you really need a machine gun to kill a little deer?

912 days ago | Side: yes
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Guns are an awful thing. This world would be SO much better without them.

757 days ago | Side: yes
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Yes because not only can people kill others they can kill themselves

734 days ago | Side: yes
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People KILL each OTHER!! THEY COULD BE USED TO KILL OR ASSANATE THE PRES

734 days ago | Side: yes
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However, Japan has an extremely peaceful society (except for the Yakuza), and they have a ban on most forms of weaponry.

734 days ago | Side: yes
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734 days ago | Side: yes
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lol . .

728 days ago | Side: yes
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Guns should be banned because all it would cause is more crime rates in America and yes i know even if guns get banned people would still find a way to get but at least there won't be so much crime going as it would be if it gets banned

721 days ago | Side: yes
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they are killing people. BAN THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

701 days ago | Side: yes
MKIced(2209) Disputed
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Guns don't kill people on their own. People kill people by using guns. And besides, do you think a lot of gang members buy their guns in a gun shop? Nope... Most gun crime comes from gangs and criminals who get their guns illegally. The legal guns are owned by the police, home owners (for protection), and hunters, etc.

701 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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with regards to "guns dont kill people on there own" no the dont however their sole purpose is to kill and without a gun it is harder to kill someone (granted you canuse other weapons however they are generaly less effetive and arentgoing to harm as man people)

with regard to the fact that most gun crime is from illegl guns, in that case why not make all guns illegal. i maintain that making guns illegal would make it harder for people to get hold of them.

435 days ago | Side: yes

of course they kill people. bloody yanks. why is the combined iq of your population 4

490 days ago | Side: yes
vulcan9697(6) Disputed
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so do cars, and stds,and fast food, and radiaton from the sun.

lets bann driving and sex and a quick meal and while were at it lets just cover the sun up to.

448 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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thats a niave and stupid comment, while driving etc is dangerous, the sole purpose of a gun is to kill people.

cars are useful and when used correctly arent dangerous, could be wrong but im pretty sure without sex we'd become extinct, and without the sun wed die

guns have the sole purpose to kill and theres no need to be allowed

445 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Look at murder suicide rates other places. It is a no brainer...

469 days ago | Side: yes
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In England, people have realized that guns just create more violence and therefore, they have banned them. And it did them good. The US's murder rate is 15 times higher of that in England. (That's a lot!!!) Most murders involve guns. The most common argument against banning guns is that people should be able to defend themselves. But most likely they would be defending themselves against guns. But if you got rid of guns, you wouldn't be needing to really defend yourself. Yes people can get get killed other ways too, but guns are the most common way, and guns only are really used for violence. It takes a lot of rage, strength and energy to stab someone, but it only takes a twitch of a finger to shoot someone. GUNS SHOULD BE BANNED!!!!

465 days ago | Side: yes
vulcan9697(6) Disputed
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maybe we shouldnt be looking at how people are being killed but who is doing it. fact is go in any prison and what color do you see? black and brown. so if your going to get a handle on violence then get rid of the problem causers not one of our only ways of defending ourselves from them

448 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns should be banned because although most of the time they don't do anybody real harm the police pose a threat and if they miss they could hit anyone.

Surely, even if somebody has robbed a sweet shop or something similar to that they should not be shot. That is a unnecessary.

456 days ago | Side: People don't deserve to be shot
vulcan9697(6) Disputed
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lets say a cop pulls someone over with a trunk full of dope and they have an illegally bought gun. then what? ask him to stop? no police need guns to keep the piece.

448 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I believe that there is a reason the police are trained with a knowledge of martial arts and there is also a reason why they have bullet proof vests and all of that.

324 days ago | Side: yes
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Although bearing arms is a right in America according to the constitution, it should still be illegal! the U.S. constitution is broken beyond repair! Guns are becoming more easier to purchase and people are becoming more insane.humans are killing more innocent people everyday! the only proper way to stop this epidemic would be to ban guns from all local citizens and only give guns to military or law enforcement!

453 days ago | Side: yes
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great idea! go run for senate. so what do we do with att the guns people have now? o lets go to their house and get them. ya thatll work since some of the people that own guns illegally dont even have a ss# cuz they snuck over here. police are not your personal body gaurd, it is your responsability to protect yourself. lets say 6 gangbangers jump you? they have no guns. just bats. what do you do? band baseball. ignorance isnt bliss

448 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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What I do not understand is why the winning argument for this is 'no, guns don't kill people', when clearly they are a weapon used for harming or killing. There is no way a sane person can honestly say guns are good and the fact they exist is a great way to improve our planet!'

Guns are bad, they kill. However I realise that if there were a serious offence and someone attacked the police with a gun things could turn bad quickly. Which is why I have tagged this as 'Keep the Guns, Change the System'. Perhaps they should change the law and copy the English where the police have guns in serious conditions but usually they leave them alone.

Any arguments?

Any arguments?

320 days ago | Side: yes
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have any of you actually SEEN Bowling for Columbine???????

192 days ago | Side: yes
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Every year 30,000 people die of gun shots in America, and still there are many states that don’t keep guns illegal. There are people who are afraid to get shot when they travel there; this is a sad fact. I argue that guns should be illegal for many reasons. First of all, guns give a better chance for criminals to commit crimes; knowing that with knives they don’t stand a chance. Second, there is a greater percentage, by data, that people are more harmed with guns rather than protected. Gunshot incidents in school make it all the more clearer that kids can unintentionally shoot. Finally, if guns are illegal than it will be harder to get buy a gun and therefore less people will be murdered.

69 days ago | Side: yes
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accidents caused by contingent actions

people suffering from mental illness and minor may use a gun in wrong ways

69 days ago | Side: yes
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I say that guns should be banned because they are killing thousands of people each week

58 days ago | Side: yes
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Okay i wish there was both sides because to be honest i am doing a project on this and i really wanna do both sides. we should banned guns because in the year of 2012 and of course 2011 there have been many killings, deaths, and shoot outs. shoot outs at SCHOOL! Come on and im pretty sure there will be many more that's sad and crazy. anyways, there's been kids dying from guns that either accidently went off or one is shooting one another. its not so much their fault for having the gun its for the people who sells CHILDREN Guns illegaly and i doubt they wont stop because to them that's like their salary, the money that pays bills. not to long ago a little girl in 3rd grade (i think, but she was young) got shoot by a little boy because he had a gun in his bag and it accidently went off when he set his bag down. kids my age dies like everyday that's scary. and there's people that will shoot someone for no reason.

this is the part that is confusing but makes sence why i agree to having guns but also shouldn't. people say we should have guns because i can keep my children safe. i can protect myself from people that is robbing me. like for real that's good reasons but you can also kill someone just trying to protect yourself. (i hate death if you cant tell) so when the police ask you what happen you'll just say i killed someone because they were robbing me. like they already got their consequence because you killed them, so what about your consequence you just killed someone! that's murder! either if it was an accident, trying to defend your self doesnt matter i think you should at least get consequences (they prob. do but i just dont know). like if someone was beating you up and you fight back you will get in trouble for fighting back. so why is it different from shooting someone and killing them. Hope you liked i kind of went off track(: but yeah.

By: Porshe' Sturgis 14years old. March.19.2012

58 days ago | Side: yes
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guns should be banned everyone who is saying no is an idiot

51 days ago | Side: yes
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The argument "no, guns don't kill people" is ridiculous. Everyone has seen a shooting movie where someone ends up dead via gun. The reason people go to war with guns is because they kill people.

43 days ago | Side: yes
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guns should be banned because kids can get killed and there is shootings in the sua almost every week get a life and stop guns

27 days ago | Side: yes
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please stop guns in the usa help others and help the poor

You are absolutely wrong about the second amendment being put in place to prevent a British invasion or coup. It was put in place partially to allow the creation of militias. You're also wrong about guns making crime rates go higher, take a look at Switzerland. Men there are required to own automatic weapons and yet they have next to no crime rate. Their lack of a standing army is what was originally for seen for the United States, or a system similar. A small standing army to form the core of a greater force in times of war. That is what the second amendment implies.

Obviously you know little about guns, a shotgun is probably one of the least threatening weapons to people. Their limited range for their weight and length makes them impractical for crime, but perfect for the defense of ones home.

The guns aren't the problem its people and don't start blaming poverty, or education. Just because you're poor doesn't mean that you have to kill someone to improve your life. There are many ways to do that. So long as guns exist people will always find a way to acquire them. By reducing the number of honest, law abiding citizens with the capability to protect themselves from these criminals you're asking for a breakdown of order.

But I diverge from the topic at hand. Point is only an idiot points a gun anywhere near a person they don't want to kill. There's no such thing as a gun related accident, gun related deaths almost always are caused by carelessness or stupidity or both.

27 days ago | Side: yes
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The british aren't going to invade, so we don't need to protect ourselves". So when an american enters you're home with intent to kill, are you going to defend yourself with a fork? I do agree that most burglary's that occur do not involve a murder or serious injury, but not all home invasion's are with the intent to remove your property. If I we're in the position to put my life on the line, or lose a television, I would rather lose the television. The question is whether this person is here to steal my property or harm me or my family. I would rather have the means to protect myself and my family. If we lived in a perfect world where we didn't have Poverty, Drugs and Poor Education, then maybe I could see youre point. The fact of the matter is we don't. When America gets to the point where I can go to sleep at night, or even go about my daily business and not worry, then I'll consider getting rid of my gun. Until then, we live in a dangerous world where people live outside the law and I feel safe knowing theres an amendment granting me the right to defend myself.

27 days ago | Side: yes
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Switzerland has a gun death rate of 6 in 100,00. America has a gun death rate of just over 10 in 100,000. England outlawed all handguns and has a 0.6 per 100,000 gun death rate. [1] The facts are pretty clear that in countries where guns are allowed, more people are shot and killed.

In 1999, there were 28,874 gun-related deaths in the United States - over 80 deaths every day. In 1999, 58% of all gun deaths were suicides, and 38% were homicides. Of all suicides, 57% occurred by firearm. In 2000, 75,685 people (27/100,000) suffered non-fatal firearm gunshot injuries.

What, exactly, is the point of guns? The fact of the matter is that America has a culture where guns are OK, and the only thing that is ever going to do is mean a great increase in gun crime. Guns are pointless in this day and age.

27 days ago | Side: yes

Bad people use guns to kill good people! So yes, guns should be banned in america!

722 days ago | Side: yes
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To argue one side or the other, in terms in single events, is silly. The argument is death, because of the nature of a gun. Rarely is it so one sided. Why do people fixate on one topic? To focus on one issue as the core is illogical.

1) First note, yes, guns can kill people, but ultimately people kill people. Basic logic. This is an argument of purpose and existence. Just because something exists doesn't mean it has purpose, and if an object has purpose it has existence. What is the purpose of the firearm? Many. Yes, killing is one of them, but there are so many others (for example, the enjoyment of shooting large pumpkins...and yes, I do). Equally so, I could argue that as a human, you were created to breed and kill on the whole in order to survive as the fittest, but modern theories and cognition seem to provide a greater degree of purpose to humanity. Of course, most of it is BS.

2) Equating lower crime rates due to the ban of guns is absurd. Japan has a peaceful society because after World War 2, and as terms of their surrender, many impositions were put on them. As such, the country turned inward and began the foundation of modern Japan. Make no mistake, guns or not, the Japanese were not exactly the epitome of peace up until recent times. The idea of self is not priority to the Japanese. Subsequently, this level of stress in Japan has given them the highest suicide rate in the world. Death by gun? probably not. Death by , sure! Key topic here, death.

The UK with it's gun ban has seen a healthy increase in knife violence. From what I also read, gun crimes actually went up as well (yes, the nasty black market). But if you look at most statistics, the majority of these crimes are concentrated in heavily populated areas (this seems to corroborate with worldwide trends.). See my argument #1...people kill people, especially when you cram them in a small, stinky space. Human nature. Take away one thing, we'll either find it another way or find a substitute.

3) The Constitution. The right to bear arms has been beaten to death. The 2nd amendment was created in order to have a readily available militia, amongst a other minor things. Home defense? sure, why not. The gun nuts (and I do own guns) tend to use this as a giant hammer, crying to the call of freedom. Ridiculous. Get over it. It's ok to say "I shoot guns because it's fun and makes me happy". No shame in that.

The ultimate issue is a Pandoras box, which actually applies to all kinds of ideas and objects. An idea or object is released to the world, and we want to tuck it away never to be seen again. This is setting everyone up for failure. Conceptually, it's like making a statement to a group of people, then retracting it...not exactly the solution.

Guns should be legal, but reform should take place. Emphasis higher education as a requirement (as in mandatory classes), mandatory firing instruction (as in, mandatory classes), and mandatory testing of such (book and field) before you can purchase a firearm. Education people, that is the key to anything.

Will this solve the occasional gun crazies out there? no. But if you are spending your time worrying about the typical Columbine or Virginia Tech stories, get over it. You're more likely to die from a car collision than getting shot.

Yes, I'll hear "You say that because it didn't happen to you", or "your wasn't shot at the grocery store". You are correct, and it's a luxury I have. It's called objectivity.

518 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns should be banned because they are not needed in any domestic issue. The second ammendment was put in place because of fear that the british might invade america again or take control of the government. if this were the case the people would need weapons to defend themselves and regain america. The british aren't going to invade so we don't need to protect our selves. even in the this day and age america remains increadible safe compared to many other nations. we have no close enemies. if a major army were to attack us a few men with pistols or shotguns wouldn't do much against a soldier with an ak47 or tanks or bombers.

Guns in America just make it easier for crimes to be committed. Some guns should never be considered allowed and this includes all semi automatic weapons as well as shotguns.

Poverty, drugs, and lack of education are the reasons people turn to guns to kill. guns give you power to take life and should not be allowed to float around so that our students or citizens can use them against one another.

Guns may not kill people on their own but they greatly facilitate the killing of people and their sole purpose unlike most knives and axes is to kill. if we are allowed to carry a tool which sole purpose is to kill then purposely or accidentally we will harm or kill someone and that risk can't be allowed to exist.

1470 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
pvtNobody(631) Disputed
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You are absolutely wrong about the second amendment being put in place to prevent a British invasion or coup. It was put in place partially to allow the creation of militias. You're also wrong about guns making crime rates go higher, take a look at Switzerland. Men there are required to own automatic weapons and yet they have next to no crime rate. Their lack of a standing army is what was originally for seen for the United States, or a system similar. A small standing army to form the core of a greater force in times of war. That is what the second amendment implies.

Obviously you know little about guns, a shotgun is probably one of the least threatening weapons to people. Their limited range for their weight and length makes them impractical for crime, but perfect for the defense of ones home.

The guns aren't the problem its people and don't start blaming poverty, or education. Just because you're poor doesn't mean that you have to kill someone to improve your life. There are many ways to do that. So long as guns exist people will always find a way to acquire them. By reducing the number of honest, law abiding citizens with the capability to protect themselves from these criminals you're asking for a breakdown of order.

But I diverge from the topic at hand. Point is only an idiot points a gun anywhere near a person they don't want to kill. There's no such thing as a gun related accident, gun related deaths almost always are caused by carelessness or stupidity or both.

Supporting Evidence: Switzerland and the gun (news.bbc.co.uk)
1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
DebateMan(461) Supported
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Great argument pvtNobody, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Guns don't kill people, stupid people with guns kill people.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
volker48(6) Disputed
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You make a good point pvtNobody, but at the bottom of the article in your supporint evidence it reads: "It has none of the social problems associated with gun crime seen in other industrialised countries like drugs or urban deprivation." Thus, I don't know if comparing the Swiss to the US with respect to guns is appropriate.

1463 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
xaeon(1051) Disputed
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Switzerland has a gun death rate of 6 in 100,00. America has a gun death rate of just over 10 in 100,000. England outlawed all handguns and has a 0.6 per 100,000 gun death rate. [1] The facts are pretty clear that in countries where guns are allowed, more people are shot and killed.

In 1999, there were 28,874 gun-related deaths in the United States - over 80 deaths every day. In 1999, 58% of all gun deaths were suicides, and 38% were homicides. Of all suicides, 57% occurred by firearm. In 2000, 75,685 people (27/100,000) suffered non-fatal firearm gunshot injuries.

What, exactly, is the point of guns? The fact of the matter is that America has a culture where guns are OK, and the only thing that is ever going to do is mean a great increase in gun crime. Guns are pointless in this day and age.

1426 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ta9798(295) Disputed
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Yes i could have phrased it better. You are right about the militias but what was the purpose of them? who were they supposed to defend against, not just the british but they were certainly a worry? We have a standing army so why do we need a militia as well?

I'm not a gun expert i agree but i also know that shotguns arn't the most dangerous weapons. Yet what reason does anyone have to own a shotgun? I included shotguns because i feel that there is no justification for owning one not that i thought they were very dangerous.

I'm not saying poor people resort to guns what i am saying is that poverty destroys people's lives and creates an atmosphere of fear. There are poor people who are living the best they can with what society has thrown at them. criminals or gangs might try to recruit the poor since they say they offer a better life. because of society the poor might feel that they don't have much hope and that being in a criminal organization might help to raise them. i understand that most of the poor don't do this but there are a few, especially in a city.

a large reason for our higher violence rates is our society and maybe not the presence of guns alone but guns make it easier.

just because a group in one area are able to control gun violence(like Switzerland) does not mean that a group somewhere else is.

"There's no such thing as a gun related accident, gun related deaths almost always are caused by carelessness or stupidity or both." and thus wouldn't that be an accident? maybe only an idiot does point a gun near someone they don't want to kill there are still a few idiots in this world with access to guns.

i understand your points about self defense and i think it is the only and strongest reason for not banning guns yet what guns are you talking about? do you think we should be allowed to own semi-automatics?

a lot of the recent gun deaths in the news were when people were not at home. such as at Virgina Tech, do you think people should be able to carry guns to class or in public? what i'm trying to say is if you have a shotgun at home yet are confronted when you're away from home how much use is that shotgun?

lastly i talked about education and poverty because most of the criminals are people who have been treated not well by society. there are those high level gangs that did well but where did they begin what reason did they have to go down such a path? there are too many gun deaths and while there will never be a ban in America i find it appalling that so many fight to prevent gun restrictions and background checks.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
NeverShine(37) Disputed
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"The british aren't going to invade, so we don't need to protect ourselves". So when an american enters you're home with intent to kill, are you going to defend yourself with a fork? I do agree that most burglary's that occur do not involve a murder or serious injury, but not all home invasion's are with the intent to remove your property. If I we're in the position to put my life on the line, or lose a television, I would rather lose the television. The question is whether this person is here to steal my property or harm me or my family. I would rather have the means to protect myself and my family. If we lived in a perfect world where we didn't have Poverty, Drugs and Poor Education, then maybe I could see youre point. The fact of the matter is we don't. When America gets to the point where I can go to sleep at night, or even go about my daily business and not worry, then I'll consider getting rid of my gun. Until then, we live in a dangerous world where people live outside the law and I feel safe knowing theres an amendment granting me the right to defend myself.

913 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
travisvadon(5) Supported
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Strongly agree! "If guns were against the law only criminals would own one."

839 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
dude2288(34) Disputed
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Ever heard of target shooting or hunting? Also what if you have a varmint problem? And even if you ban guns criminals can still buy guns illegally and then the only people with guns would be criminals...and the police, but what if the police aren't around shouldn't you have the right to defend yourself? Also guns don't mean that people are more likely to commit crime or even kill people. Look at Switzerland, they have the second highest gun ownership rate in the world (second only to the USA), and a large percentage of those are government issued assault rifles, yet they have a much lower crime rate than the US. The problem isn't guns it's poverty and lack of education we should be working on those instead of blaming guns for all our problems.

1463 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Shot guns are used for many different application a few of which are bird hunting like pheasant or ducks, they can also be used for trap and skeet shooting. Another thing shotguns have a maximum shot distance of 30 yards so they aren't that good of a weapon. Also semi-automatic weapons have various uses and when you are hunting fast animals you want to be able to take as many shots as possible without having to cock the gun. Another point is that a gun is a tool and the person is the one who kills someone not the gun. And it is now required to take firearm safety to purchase or use a gun and also 80% of guns used in crimes are bought illegally according to the FBI.

1246 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
way875(1) Disputed
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Man where are you coming from, what about CHINA, have you studied the size of their military force, it is not to defend themselves.

Are you are a control freak, I can read into your writings, into power, or YOU have access to any weapon you want and want to keep that control from everyone else.

I wish you lived in a location struck by the Huricane, you could defended all those folks which was raped and killed in the hospitals, in our own country. You can bet you would have disarmed them as well.

You cant stop guns, or crimes, or even drugs. I am also a cop but not a control freak.

You should be DEFENDING the Constitution not burning it down.

88 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

There are essentially two arguments for the ownership of/legality of guns in American (outside of the second amendment).

1) Protection - The argument suggests that guns protect us from dangerous individuals. The problem is that WE ARE the dangerous individuals. From accidents, to insanity, to alcohol or drug-fueled violence, we are the ones doing this damage. The best mode of protection is the removal of firearms from society.

2) Entertainment/sport - Shooting is fun. I love it. Skeet, target, and hunting are fun pastimes. I was trained as a boy to properly care for, handle, and shoot a fire arm. I was 10 years old when I shot my first .22 and I was hooked. I would love to pass these skills onto my son, but not at the cost of so much death and destruction caused by the improper use of guns. I would rather pass on a safer society.

I've heard all of the arguments and both sides are certainly passionate about their beliefs. Here are some of my rebuttals to common counter-arguments.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people: absolutely true, but guns allow people to kill people with greater efficiency, which is not necessarily a good thing outside of the battlefield.

If guns are outlawed, only outlaws would have guns: Actually, not true. Outlaws and law enforcement would have guns.

Criminals will find ways to get guns: True, but the supply will be much lower the demand much higher, thus making it more expensive, thus more difficult, to get a gun.

1465 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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After sifting through the grammatical errors, I believe I have found the point you intended to make.

The reality of statistics reveals that the UK's violent crime rate is far higher than that of the US. The UK has effectively disarmed its responsible citizens, but done nothing to limit the black market of arms that criminals are utilizing to perpetrate the crimes. The result is that the criminals have a much safer job than they would if responsible citizens were armed.

1423 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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FINALLY. Someone who pointed out that violent crimes in Europe ARE HIGHER. Good lord. Stop listening to propaganda. In fact BBC recently did a report on how crime has gotten worse.

Get y'alls head out of the sand. Europe's moving away from government intervention. Were moving toward it. Europe's starting to realize that gun control fails. Were moving towards it. Why do we not look across the pond and realize how much it sucks? High crime, and high unemployment.

1349 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
wowbob396(4) Disputed
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Wow, if someone was robbing my house with a gun I wouldn't be playing High Noon with them....

842 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
keenkevin(1) Disputed
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Better than playing dead... After all dead men have trouble forming coherent sentences

660 days ago | Side: yes
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OTdarters(38) Disputed
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You state that guns are a tool that increases the ease with which a crime may be committed. But do any responsible gun owners succumb to rage and utilize the tool that they carry for protection of themselves and others to kill someone? Aren't those feelings of rage and hate we feel internally slightly exaggerated? Would any sane, responsible person be able to act externally upon irritation, even with a tool readily available, to kill someone? I think not. Serial killers and criminals buy their tools to kill. Responsible gun owners, the ones that follow all laws regulating gun ownership, will not use the guns they acquired for a wholly distinct and opposite purpose to kill or hurt others.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Responsible gun owners simply don't come into it. Serial killers and criminals buy their tools to kill. True, but if they couldn't buy guns, then they would do alot less damage.

1461 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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The responsible gun owners that you are talking about, might not necessarily THEMSELVES using guns. Womens and even CHILDREN in those houses feel like using those deadly toys and even try shoot at someone. I am not saying all this in fluke. Just click on the evidence below.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE4DD1031F933A15754C0A965958260

After reading this, you might raise another point that the owners should be responsible and keep guns away and keep them safe.BLAH BLAH!

But, then just answer this, ISN'T IT BETTER NOT TO BUY GUNS RATHER THAN BUYING AND HIDING IT FROM WRONG HANDS?

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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"Presence of guns around us just provide an acceleration to this kind of a thinking and encourages us to act upon him and kill that person."

All that means is there is two less idiots in the world. Wait let me rephrase that, one less idiot and one less person that has the tendencies to commit murder.

win win in my opinion.

And Virginia Tech was not an "incident," it was a massacre. If all the students had also had guns then there is no way that asshole could have killed as many innocent people as he did. My condolensces to the families of the victims.

726 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Of course guns kill people, but that doesn't mean that they should be banned. Knives kill people, cars kill people, Big Macs kill people, but should they be banned as well?

First of all, it would be impossible to ban guns and expect that they would all be taken off the street. They are too prolific in America now and there's no turning back.

Second, guns serve a great purpose in many cases, people just need to be educated on proper gun safety. Additionally, we should do more to ensure the people who are getting guns are capable of handling them and are not likely to go kill someone with it.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Well a gun is different than big macs and knives, because a gun was solely designed to kill things. And when someone says guns don't kill people, people do, that's like saying pencils don't draw, people do. You draw with a pencil. You kill with a gun.

It would be impossible to get rid of guns. Of course it would be a bad thing because people love their guns for hunting, killing, etc. If your "great purpose" of guns is death, than yes, they do serve a purpose. It's my personal belief that violence and hate only results in more violence and hate. If America stopped killing people, no one would hate us.

The two reasons why people use guns in America:

1. Get things like money, power, respect (kill people, hold up stores, stuff like that)

2. Protect us from each other because we want money, power, etc. If we all had equal money, power, and respect, there wouldn't be any competition, therefore no hate, no greed, etc.

We can outlaw guns all we want, but we're always gonna find ways to kill people. You gotta attack the root of the emotion that makes people want to use guns to make people realize gun's won't get any real work done.

814 days ago | Side: It doesn't make a difference
igetsyolked(17) Disputed
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Na uh bum it was actually started for sporting events and protection bum. The Winchester family was wht started the killing bum. First of all bum they are normally used in a cause of rape, not robbery, robberry is ranked low in the standing bum.

741 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Houston(184) Disputed
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Your speaking like a communist. "If we all had equal money, power, and respect, there wouldn't be any competition, therefore no hate, no greed, etc."

If guns were never invented people would use bows, knives and swords to kill people.

The two reasons why people use guns in America:

1. Get things like money, power, respect (kill people, hold up stores, stuff like that)

2. Protect us from each other because we want money, power, etc. If we all had equal money, power, and respect, there wouldn't be any competition, therefore no hate, no greed, etc.

Weird, last I heard, people hunt animals with guns.

"You draw with a pencil. You kill with a gun."

You can also draw with a pen, and kill with a knife. Guns and pencils are tools, they have similar tools that can do the same purpose, too. It's the people who pull the trigger, stab the blade, draw on the paper, etc.

722 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ceee
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happnen cheif xx so what do you think about guns x i think that they are great & i love shootin mine in all directions xx

701 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
trabb22
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Alright were talking about America we dont like socialism in America.

And for the record people use guns for sport and for hunting.

640 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
FckUAmerican(1) Disputed
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Your point was valid till you thought we should all be commys. = things never work out geez ya scrub...........

13 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns do not kill people . A gun doesn't have a mind of its own . A gun can not pull it's trigger by itself . There has to be a person on the other hand to pull that trigger . That person kills people not the gun . On the other hand every thing else you said I totally agree with you .

629 days ago | Side: yes
igetsyolked(17) Disputed
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no guns dont kill people, people kill people. and same with the Knives, cars, and your lil Big Macs son you ah bum. Its the choice of the poeple.... Bum

743 days ago | Side: yes
egga(107) Disputed
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But guns make it easier to deliberately kill people. Much easier than with a knife.

P.S. I've never heard of anyone being bludgeoned with a big mac.

131 days ago | Side: Keep the Guns Change the System
deee(29) Disputed
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.knives&cars;may kill people but it clearly isntt deliberate, yes there is sometimes hit&runs;but there are more gun deaths than anything. BAN GUNS NOW !!!!!

701 days ago | Side: yes
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If today we were to ban guns all the law abiding citizens would give up their firearms and protection. Guess what? The criminals wouldn't give up their guns and they would have a field day breaking into stores,banks, and homes. And when you are the on laying on the floor and watching your possessions being stolen and your family raped and killed without anything to defend yourself then its on you. If you live in some fantasy that the world is perfect and the police can always protect on a moment notice you can pretend whatever you want. Us on the other hand want some protection.

640 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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,disagree mate!xx people dae it delibrately ya stupid person. why else d'yi hink it's called murderrrrr!xxxx

699 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Derek(5) Disputed
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There are most certainly NOT more gun deaths than anything. In fact, cars kill more people than guns do. Look up a fact or two before you hit submit.

212 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Jits(13) Disputed
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Firstly, knives and cars are not commonly used to murder people. Cars just cause accidents, that is not the reason why cars should be banned. GUNS ARE A SURE WAY TO FINISH PEOPLE OFF! AND ANYONE CAN USE THEM TO KILL OTHERS, that is the reason why guns should be banned.

Secondly, how do guns serve a great purpose, as you said, in many cases? They help to kill somebody we hate? Well! that is badly justified!!

Moreover, there is no way of ensuring that the people who are getting guns are capable of handling them and are not likely to go kill someone with it.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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mmm, I agree with your first two points, however just because stupid people obtain guns is no reason to ban them. Stupid people are voted for all the time (you know who I mean) but does that justify preventing the election process?

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Jits

Firstly, knives and cars are not commonly used to murder people.

Both are used to 'murder' people all the time. It is true that guns are responsible for the majority of murders but knives are number two and cars are considered weapons by the police.

Your point is that Guns murder people so they should be banned. If that truly is your sole point then that's riduculous because banning guns wont stop murders. Murderers will just use something else; knives, poisons, explosives, their own hands.

Do you really think a criminal intent on killing will say to himself, "Darn, I can't kill now because guns are illegal?".

Jits. Do you collect anything, pez dispensers, baseball cards, broken hearts...anything? If you do maybe you'll be able to relate to the need for guns. Think about it.

Guns represent history. Guns represent the ingenuity of man. Guns are one of the simplest, most efficient machines ever created. Take some time to look beyond the obvious...gun kill...gun bad.

Supporting Evidence: Types of weapons used (www.infoplease.com)
1467 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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r u hungry bro???????????????????????????????????????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

23 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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<---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Just follow the name

13 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

I thought that this was pertinent and rather interesting. I thought I'd submit it to see if it got any reaction.

“The Beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try and take it.” Thomas Jefferson

1454 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
phuqster(111) Disputed
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That was almost a good point, I was totally against guns before and that nearly dented my opinion.

But then I couldn't help but wonder whether his (Jefferson's) views on the matter would be the same if he could have foreseen the future of "arms". That is: mass commoditisation of personal weaponry. The lethality and diminutive nature of such weaponry. The rate of fire of these weapons and the speed of reloading. And whether he'd consider it still pertinent when the government owns and deploys tanks, HMGs and fighters on home soil. Which of course, in order to remove such a government, would require not just pistols and other personal weaponry but at least RPGs and SAMs.

I wonder whether (wish) he would have restricted it (the 2nd amendment) to contemporary weaponry of his time, that is: "muskets (36+ inches long) and single shot pistols".

But now I am not 100% for a total ban, as I'd love to see "Cops" the TV show with them running around with huge heavy muskets and taking 20+ seconds to reload their pistols. Also Columbine would have gone from un-fucking-believable horror to almost sublime comedy.

1388 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO

THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION

The right to keep and bear arms.

I, for one, am happy to know that I live in a democratic nation that has a fail safe built into it. If it were to fail, be over run by a tyrant or whatever the case, if it were to fail, I would have a fighting chance, and so would my peers.

I think disturbing the constitution is a bad idea, especially when we're talking about something like the 2nd amendment. If you touch the constitution, and at the same time, strip the people of it's property, and the property of which could help protect them in dire situations, you're going to have a reason to amend the constitution again because there will be a revolt. You know what I mean? You are changing the game, and then you are making it to where it's harder to keep fair if they wanted to change it again, and on top of all of that, it's not a belief that's being taken from them, like the belief of freedom, it's a material possession that has the power to defend itself, while in the right hands.

Tobacco, which I am all too familiar with, was responsible for 18.1% of deaths in the U.S. in year 2000. 435,000 deaths in 2000 compared to firearm related deaths at 29,573 in 2001.

Look at the difference there! 405,427 more people died by smoking than being shot...

What do cigarettes do to protect the citizens from each other or the government? I would have to say, only calm one down a little for a short amount of time and make their fight weaker and more difficult to endure.

If we're going to do anything concerning the second amendment, it should be to teach gun safety in classes as a sort of D.A.R.E. like program. Just because we teach people about drugs doesn't mean they'll seek them out, this should be the same with firearms.

I do think that we need to keep guns off of the streets, but this isn't a gun issue, it's a fairly complex societal issue.

1426 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
wowbob396(4) Supported
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I would like to add that we are a constitutional republic.

842 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

If you look at history, the first thing empire's do to have total control is to disarm it's citizens.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ta9798(295) Disputed
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Yes that might be true but are you suggesting that we should be allowed to carry semi-automatics or greater weapons? If our government wants to control us with force they are not going to use pistols and hunting rifles, they will use the military and they use far more powerful weapons. the only way the people could successfully counter that is with weapons of near equal or greater power than what would be deployed by the military or non-violent movement such as the Indian Non-violence peace movement to overthrow the British Empire in India.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
pvtNobody(631) Disputed
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You argue that the caliber of the weapon is the only factor in a fight. While this is a significant factor it is not the only one. Tactics and training are in many ways more important.

Finally the reason why the only reason why the Indian non-violence movement succeeded was because the British Empire chose not to use force. When you discuss a military actively engaging in suppression of resistance you've passed the point where non-violent resistance will work.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
dude2288(34) Disputed
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Ever heard of the Vietnam war, or the 1973 Afghanistan war?

Both had poorly trained, poorly armed forces defeating the two most powerful militaries of their time. Also high tech weapons and training are only a small part in winning a war, if it wasn't don't you think the Iraqi insurgencies would have lost by now? My point is: in a war between the US Army and the American people the army would have a very hard time even if the people only had hunting rifles and pistols.

1463 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
way875(1) Clarified
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If every household which meet criteria was mandated to be armed with high level weaponry, it would increase the security of the USA.

Watch sons of Guns, they have it right but that is rare in our society.

We would fight back any threat, and may lose but at least we would fight rather than hide because of being disarmed.

88 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Do you realize your talking about empires, which existed hundreds of years ago, when there weren't "hardcore" gangsters and a black market, people abided by the rules or wouldnt have life.

1189 days ago | Side: yes
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that argument makes sense only if u say that u believe America will have some civil war if it lost it's GUNS or that in some stupid way America can only prevent its self from turning into a totalitarian state if it has guns...

1461 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
ckames(20) Disputed
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That is exactly the argument and is the rationale behind the 2nd Amendment.

1447 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns don't kill people, poeple kill people. The vast majority of people who commit gun crimes obtain their wepons illegally in the first place, so if guns are taken from the law abideing citizens, you'll have a situation where the outlaws will have guns and the sane people who should be allowed to have guns will be defenseless. also it shifts the balance of power in favor of the politicians instead of the citizenry. It's just one more step towards tyranny. This country started by shooting the poeple who tried to supress us. We can't allow our government to become the very thing we killed to escape from in the first place. Do you really want the politicians to have complete control of you lives?

930 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns.

1339 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Not too long ago I would have, without hesitation said yes. But given the drift in this country to more and more centralization of power in the presidency I am not so sure. I wonder about forces such as Blackwater; is this destined to be a private force of the executive?

What if McCain is elected? He believes in 'winning the war' on terrorism. I believe he will naturally seek to exert increased control over security to the detriment of constitutional safeguards of liberty.

It may take ordinary citizens, armed, to ultimately defend our Constitution. Our Founding Fathers fought against linger odds.

It reminds of something I once read --- what if every Jew in Hitler's Germany killed one SS troop as he came to arrest him? The number of Jews vastly outnumbered the German SS.

1465 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Freedom was won with guns...

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
frenchieak(1120) Disputed
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And freedom can be lost with guns in the wrong hands. It works both way.

1211 days ago | Side: yes
JakeJ(2940) Disputed
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Key word:

"in the wrong hands."

Yeah its possible for a maniac to get ahold of a gun, but its also possible for a maniac to get in the drivers seat of a car. (see my post)

Perhaps we should ban cars in America?

1190 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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A militia of citizens with guns will be our last line of defense in the case of a government or military coup. Properly trained and licensed civilian gun owners can protect themselves and their neighbors in the case of enemy invasion, robberies, and other crimes. Banning guns in the U.S. would be a huge mistake, plus it would piss off all the gun owners who use their weapons for hunting and sport. Additionally, it would create a huge black market for illegal (all) guns.

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Loudacris(910) Disputed
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I think you hit the nail on the head with the black market argument but do you really think that there are enough properly trained and licensed civilian gun owners to challenge the US military? There is no way the civilians could win. That argument is just silly.

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Lexfor(136) Disputed
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Now I'm not saying that all the properly licensed and trained civilians in the U.S. would be able to stand up against the military if a coup occured. But if that did happen, many of the members of the military would get out and join the civilian population and defend the counry's interest. Not every member of the military is a brainwashed drone who will follow any order given to them without thought. But considering that there are many more civilians than there are members of the military would make things difficult for the military. Plus think about the police departments, they can provide a lot of help in a situation where civilians will need defense. It doesn't take long to train someone how to defend themselves with a gun. I think this situation would be extremely rare though.

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
dcovan(169) Disputed
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You look at Iraq and other urban wars and see our politically correct military doesnt really smash the revolts.

1452 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
trabb22
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Hey did someone say revouloutinairy war, did someone say vietnam?

640 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Greater control, yes. Banning, no.

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Gun control laws simply don't work. Just look at the violent crime rates of areas with strict gun control laws, such as Washington D.C. and the U.K. (both of which have gun bans). Then compare it to areas with less gun control laws, such as Texas and Arizona (where concealed carry permits are fairly easy to obtain). The difference is huge because criminals are far less likely to commit a crime if they think that the victim could be armed.

Their was also a study (I don't have the link handy) that showed that the majority of violent crimes involving guns, the gun that was used by the criminal was obtained illegally. That's what criminals do, they break the law. If someone is really going to commit a crime with a gun, then why would they choose to obey any gun control laws?

I believe that Thomas Jefferson said it best when he said, "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

1426 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

we need guns!! how else are we gonna shoot people that dont agree with us!!

1188 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
Superpnut(21) Supported
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pure genius!!!!!!!!

1188 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Except, of course, when a snake squeezes the trigger.

734 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
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.are you for real ? snakes clearly cant squeeze the traigger&even;if they didi it clearly isnt all the time'xx

701 days ago | Side: yes
TERMINATOR(6641) Disputed
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Read the news of the weird; it happens all the time.

701 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
josiejump1(17) Disputed
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ewwww? be real !! you must be trippin mate? get a lifeeeeeee.

699 days ago | Side: yes
TERMINATOR(6641) Disputed
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Unlike you, I've both a life and a brain.

698 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Two Societies of 200 random individuals, one with guns and one with no guns. The answer is obvious, a society without guns has less opportunity, risk and danger than a society with guns.

In a worldwide population of billions, many would have lived if opportunities to kill with guns had never arisen.

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
rob1101
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[event]

The society with no guns has five members that buy guns from the black market, they take over the society and create a dictatorship where the men are forced into slave labor camps and the women are sold as sex slaves.

Meanwhile the other society is fine they have had a few disputes with a bad apple or two but they were both resolved without the collapse of the society.

[/event]

coming back to the planet earth you must first accept that guns exist. If you ban them there will still be a black market, no matter if they are smuggled or made domestically. So the best solution is to regulate and make sure law abiding citizens can buy guns.

1120 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Plain and Simple. Gun laws do not work places with strict guns laws are some of the most dangerous places in the nation and places like parts of Texas where guns are required are the safest. Yes I think parent should lock up there guns so children cannot get them. no one want to see a child killed but banning guns is really a bad Idea it's not good here and has been bad in the UK.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/301881_gunrebut01.html

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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woah! what did you say? been bad in britain? im british, and very anti guns, and i find this DOWN RIGHT INSULTING! just like the US smear campaign abour the british NHS.

Lets do the maths here

UK gun related homicide in 1998 - 2000 = 14

US gun related homicide in 1998 - 2000 = 9,369

"BUT WAIT!" i hear you say! "what about the population difference!"

so lets factor in the populations and do this per capita

uk = 0.00102579 gun murders per 1,000 people

US = 0.0279271 gun murders per 1,000 people

wow, sombody was wrooong, BUT WAIT IT GETS BETTER

the results were ranked!

Uk = 32nd highest gun murders per capita

US = 8th highest gun murders per capita!

and guess what! IT WAS A 32 NATION REPORT! MEANING THE UK HAD THE LOWEST GUN CRIME RATES OF THEM ALL!

SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)

Another thought, did you ever think to REALIZE that the strong violence in strict gun law places came BEFORE the laws did? the laws are strick because the violence got bad, and the laws were made after to try to stop it.

814 days ago | Side: yes
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There should be no guns at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

734 days ago | Side: yes
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Any one that says guns should be Banned in the USA of needs to move out of the USA. This is America, stop walking around with your tails between your legs and start acting like an american. Guns dont kill ppl , ppl kill ppl.

NEXT!

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

I've been on both sides of this argument and I can certainly sympathize with the respective positions.

I've always found it interesting that liberal argument on gun control is seen to be derived from a presupposition that individuals cannot act responsibly with the possession of firearms while at the same time assuming that collective bodies of individuals (such as our federal government) can be or is a organization that will responsibly conduct legislation and execute public policy and laws to the betterment of the public good.

On the other side, the conservative argument proceeds from both the standpoint that the individual can act responsibly with a firearm and/or (agreeing somewhat with the liberal basis) does not want to be found without a firearm in the company of irresponsible individuals who are carrying guns. It is also interesting that the former basis for the conservative argument assumes that the right to bare arms is the responsible individuals right to protect themselves against a hypothetical attack or control of an irresponsible collective body of individuals (a empire or dictatorship or oppressive government.)

To a certain extent, you have to identify the motive driving your position, whether it be fear of our government or trust in our government, and determine the extent to which that motive might be hindering your ability to critically evaluate the opposing argument fairly in light of your own.

Personally, I don't think banning the purchase and use of firearms in the United States will do anything to lessen the crime rates in our country. As has been stated already in this forum, the gun market will continue regardless of federal policy. Also, we've nurtured a culture of hopelessness and violence in our country that (while it may not be root cause of the problem) has certainly not helped the conditions that drive a person to resort to violent recourse to deal or cope with certain circumstances where better opportunities, financial security, or a better education might help them to make more responsible decisions.

I realize that I'm being horribly idealistic here (as I'm often accused of being) but I feel that a better public education system, a more dynamic economy, and a more promising future for the people of our country will do much more than taking the guns out of all the sock drawers in the U. S. of A.

And, the argument that it works in Britain fails to address the geographical size difference between North America and the British Isles, the demographic diversity, the population counts, and the cultural conflicts that distinguish the two nations.

Tighter restrictions on gun purchases and ownership are definitely necessary. A ban is not.

1370 days ago | Side: Keep the Guns Change the System
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Not to change subject but to show a comparison

lets ban large Vehicle's Truck's Cars Pickups and anything that has a engine larger than a single cylinder and go's faster than 5 miles per hour because they kill people more so than guns. but that is a infringement on my liberty what liberty the pursuit of life,liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. that don't matter people are to careless to drive such a large and fast vehicle. and criminals use them to get away and to kill people with it and kids can get in them and go joy riding and hurt a lot of people. under age kids don't have a license to drive them and some adults don't either and still they drive even if it is against the law and some parents let there kids drive anyway to go to the store or what ever the law has gotten more strict but it still go's on and so dose drunk driven and a lot of other thing like drugs,theft,prostitution,gambling and so on and i don't see stopping people having Weapons or anything Elise it will just make thing worse not better responsibility and accountability is the next best thing. anything that was tried to stop has just got Worse I'm not saying make it legal for like drugs or anything like that but something ain't working right. Even when the gun law was in affect the bad guys still get there Han's on them just a few years ago in California the cops had a shoot out and the bad guy's had Band full auto weapons and bullet proof vest the cop's were out Gunned and out matched so if you want to ban all weapons because of safety then you might as well ban all things that are not safe. we all take life in our on hands when we drive a car ride a four wheeler motorcycle flying in plane's water skying boating rock climbing hiking anything any where any time you just don't know your no safer with out them thats for sure and i believe that if I'm responsible enough to fight for our country then i have the right to have any firearm i want. just as you have the right to any Vehicle or anything like that as long as your responsible for your actions and safety of all around you. now if you want to go jump off a crane with a rubber band tied to your foot thats on you or skydive motor cross and so on. I try not to tell other people how to live and i expected the same. but to tell me i don't have the right to have a weapon that is controlling my life and other's that believe in the right to have them that are law abiding people. and as i said i served my country as a lot of others here did and continue to do for you and every one here in the U.S.A.

P.S this is not directed toured any one

Person or Person's here or anywhere on this forum its just my opinion about banning or gun control if a person wants to harm you and there is no weapons to steal or bye on the black market he will make it. and a good Example is a water pipe shot gun or other type's of ballistic weapon if you don't think so look it up and there's a whole lot more things that can be made to kill with if they want what you have. look on you tube for home made weapons and explosive and you will see how easy it is to do. so just banning weapons won't work if your a bad guy. Think about it and a lot of the thing are common things you can get every day at the hardware store and store's off the shelf. and a lot of the people on you tube that are doing it is kid's the one's that get hurt the most because lack of guidance from adults and no supervision. and its Because the ban of explosives and homemade firearms. to them its illegal and exciting and dangerous.well i said about all I'm going to say.

This is to all that believes in God i hope he will bless all of you and your's may he bring peace in your hart's and keep you well. And to those who don't i still wish you well be good and safe in what ever you do in life.

1304 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns should be banned everywhere except America.

1246 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns dont kill people, people kill people. People sometimes kill other people innocently a lower percentage of the time but yes it is there. It is called self defense. If someone breaks into your house and you shoot and kill that man is that a bad thing? Also if it is not guns then it will be homemade bombs or just kitchen knives. It would be almost impossible to ban just like the alchohol ban the US gov tried. It wont work in the southern states I gurantee it. Most of the 16 year olds and higher that I KNOW own a gun . at least 25% of them. Which means that they are already toting illegaly so if they are already how is the gov gonna enforce it if they are already having KIDS slip under the radar?

1190 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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You can kill someone with a car, should cars be banned in america?

1190 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No they shouldn't. If you take away the civilian's only right to self defense, how are they suppose to defend themselves from the criminals who buy weapons and drugs from the black market illegally. If you think homicide rates are high now, if gun control becomes active, that will sky rocket.

1189 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No, firearms are simply made available for self-defense, the percentage of people that use them for other purposes is a very small one. Except in L.A. hehe

1187 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

For all of you who want guns to be illegal ask your self this what will our army do without guns. Oh I know they will spit at eachother. Its funny how quick people are to say lets make guns illegal because their bad are they really that bad last time i checked it takes two hands a finger and a willing PERSON to use it. Just like how ignorant people say pit bulls are a deadly dog and should all be extermanated well so are bear and lions and tigers. Its not the animal that was trained to kill people. People train dogs to kill People. Now if this were a math equation People added to Killing equalls People Killing People hence the saying guns dont kill people, people kill people. Tell me Im wrong and ill call you and idot there is no argument for that statement none. Ignorance is what makes stupid and somtimes i see too much of it. California is the best place for it.

1146 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Nooooo! They could punch each other.... Oah and they could run each other over with ford f-150s... I honestly think thoose could be more deady than a pistol in some cases.

640 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Banning guns will not make gun-related deaths decline substantially. The majority of gun buyers are law-abiding people who keep the guns for self defense. Guns used in street crimes, especially from gangs, are typically illegal. If guns are banned, the illegal street guns will still be circulated, but the innocent people will not be able to obtain a gun for self-defense.

1117 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns save lives! If we were to ban guns the only people that will have guns are the people we were trying to take them away from. People already are able to get guns illegally and will continue to if they are banned. I will always feel safer with a gun knowing that criminals can get guns illegally.

1083 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns kill peope; just like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat.

1063 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

One of the many reasons those men signed the Declaration of Independence.

1022 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Guns assist people.

939 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Way more people are killed each year by car crashes than by gun violence. Should we ban cars too?

930 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Way more people are killed each year by car crashes than by gun violence. Should we ban cars too?

930 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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guns dont kill people, people kill people, from a gunsdont kill people i do corperation

912 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

we would gain nothing from banning guns in america. guns are dangerous when people illegally use them why would we ban guns in america? to stop the violence and all the killings linked to them correct? and if killing people is already illegal what good is it going to do to make guns illegal. If you are willing to kill some one you probably don't care what you are killing then with is legal or not. The only people banning guns in america would hurt are the people that are defending there homes, business's, families. Since guns are already a lucrative black market making them illegal would make it worst. just like banning alcohol did to this nation. look how much money that made the mob it brought them into power. what do you guys think a black market surplus do?

893 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I believe that a ban on firearms in America will result in widespread protests and riots, the gun market will continue, people will no longer feel secure, and an ineffective and possible corrupt system will be created that will only cause America even more suffering.

I also believe that anyone who says any type of regulation on firearms is against the 2nd Amendment is quite honestly ignorant of the world we live in now. Even greater regulation than is currently seen is needed on the buying and selling of firearms. I mean really let's be serious here, guns do kill people. But they also protect people. Regulation is needed to ensure that guns begin to do the latter in greater degrees.

893 days ago | Side: Keep the Guns Change the System

All we need is good gun control. And by "good gun control" I mean two hands on the gun ;)

883 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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on behalf of my hubby..............................................have an upvote!...he liked this one.;)

883 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Thanks. Here on CD I aim to please (just like in the bathroom). ;)

882 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I saw that on an IMAO t-shirt a while ago. Along with, "If you are nervous around guns, down that bottle of whiskey before going to the range" and "No matter how excited you are about buying your first gun, do not run around yelling 'I have a gun! I have a gun!'"

643 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I never said I was original ;)

641 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

What's the government made of? People. What's the military made of? People. What's all of America made of? People.

If we can trust our government and military with automatic weapons, tanks, and explosives to defend our country, why is it we can't rely on the people of America to defend themselves?

There is only ONE cop for every 2000 people in the U.S. I believe. Congress itself said that it is not their duty to defend us as individuals, only as a whole, which is unapplicable when it comes to a robbery, rape, or murder.

Every human has the right to live. However, a "human" with a sick intent of murdering, raping, and maiming with long list of such words, is hardly what I would call a human. I call them a monster. Think, do you believe Hitler had a right to live? What about the 911 terrorists? What about Seung-Hui Cho, who laughed as he shot his victims at Virginia Tech?

The average response time for cops is a minimum of 5 minutes, with no definite maximum quota. It only takes about 5 seconds for a crime to happen, and much less for someone to be stabbed or shot to death.

Wouldn't you think if criminals have guns, you should in fact have one to defend yourself should you ever become a victim? You anti-gun people bash on gun owners who prey on the defenseless people. You, as a person against guns, are in fact helpless too, but you do not have to be. It is not complicated, guns do not take superior skill to use if they make murder so easy. I'm part of a shooting program, and in only 3 hours they taught kids as young as 7 how to safely handle weapons, and never in the 50+ years it's been around has there been an accident.

Someone once told me, "If you give the criminal what he wants, he won't kill you." Yeah really, as if EVERY criminal was after your money. Criminals have different intents, anywhere from your money to your life. Your life is a potential target no matter what the intent is. Would you rather be mangled, mutilated, and murdered or have to explain why you shot that thug in the chest? Do not misinterpret this, but there are criminals that exist who do not wish to even harm someone. However, what right and reason would they have to steal from you, scare you, threaten your life, and maybe even kill you?

Another thing someone told me, "Dude you have no chance without a gun, even with one you only have about a 3% chance." Bullsh*t. Even if it really was a 3% chance, I think I'd rather have that 3% chance to live than nothing, even the smallest percent is MORE THAN ENOUGH.

If guns are banned, do any of you think criminals or "law abiding" citizens will abide by it?

Though they may be faulty, some criminals know how to manufacture their own guns. Despite being faulty, they are still guns, and they can still kill. Therefore, in a society with outlawed weapons, a massive black market will arise with criminally manufactured weapons and weapons that already exist. The same thing is going on for marijuana, cocaine, and meth, and the method of sale and purchase is no different for guns. How? Because drugs are illegal, and if guns are too, then they will just be circulated the exact same way.

Clearly we can't trust our the people and criminals with guns, but we can trust them to follow the laws? We would ultimately create more criminals because a majority of the 90 million gun owners like myself would not abide by it.

If guns are banned, it wouldn't prevent suicide. People will just start hanging themselves or drive off a cliff.

I don't believe everyone should have a gun. Law-abiding citizens who know how to use it should. By no means should anyone who is mentally insane, a felon, or simply ignorant be able to use one. Keep in mind anti-gun people complain about accidents or tragedies that happen because someone didn't know how to use a gun. You are, in fact, one of those people who does not know how to use a gun. Therefore, you are helpless, ignorant, and have no right to tell people who do know how to use guns what to do.

878 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Absolutely not. In fact, if we force everyone to carry a .40 s&w;than crime rates will drop dramatically. My question is, as a criminal, will you attempt to kill someone if everyone else in sight is carrying a large handgun? a .40 S&W;is a large handgun, and will drop the toughest people in 3 shots. Something else you must keep in mind is that if we outlaw guns, the only people with guns will be outlaws, this leaves no defense for law abiding citizens. Now on to several specific types of guns these idiots wish to outlaw. Shotgun: A shotgun is not concealable, no one carrying a shotgun is going to get very far before being detained, or with the "shall carry" law, possibly shot. A shotgun does way too much damage for you to carry it into public with positive intents. Anyone who kills a shotgun wielder can get away with the third degree. Next semi auto: semi-auto is used by people wishing to reduce recoil, people hunting with poor aim, or someone who needs self defense. Finally the AK: Someone said you don't need an AK to take out a deer, first of all, the AK is a semi-auto weapon if it is legal. Second, the 7.62x39 shell is considered small for a deer, yes that is right, the AK-47 is a small gun. Third, it is very reliable. People want AK-47s so they can literally bury them in sand when things are peaceful, dig them out, and shoot them when things get bad. Fourth: it is a collectors item. Anyone who supports the banning of guns doesn't know enough about them to make an informed opinion, and isn't willing to learn more, and would rather live in ignorance than try to correct their views. As a side note, all of you tote your numbers. Whether the U.S.A. has the highest gun death rate of all countries, I don't know, many of these numbers are incorrect. Still, if we ban guns, and get every gun off the streets, people will find something else to kill each other with, I could kill someone with a rose if I wanted. Either way, if the U.S.A.'s numbers are as high as you claim it is because you can not kill someone with a gun with a dagger, so instead of going with the dagger, more people go with the gun.

826 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Even if guns are outlawed, they would be smuggled in like any other drug. so outlawing guns won't make much of difference except it will be harder to get guns, besides guns are also used for sports so why ban them?

810 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I think if u have to ban a gun for ,excuse my language, retards kiling peouple.The goverment should step in and watch better ill postt more later.:)

791 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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.exeactlyyyy f it wasnt for smelly old retardsssss usingg gunss they way they arent ament to be used then they wouldnttt need to beee banned no wittt am sayingggggg LAD'SSSSSSS!!!!!!

699 days ago | Side: yes
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aye dee we kno wit yer sayien likeeee (L)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

699 days ago | Side: yes

Ever since the dawn of time mankind has killed each other, Cain killed Abel, he didn't use a gun. Guns are tools, tools for self defense and hunting. Just like cars are tools for driving. Cars don't drive, people drive. Guns don't kill, people kill. Anyhow, cross the border gun selling would still happen. If you make a law to stop people who already brake the law, does that really help? No, it helps the thugs. Because now law abiding American citizens have less protection. Good job hippies, you are making more likely for that pretty lady who lives on your street to get raped, or that wealthy old couple to get robbed.

786 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

As my father always says, "Guns doesn't kill people, dad's with pretty daughters do" On a real note, I will always be packin and I don't care what no one thinks. But the gun doesn't kill anyone, its the person that decides to pull the trigger

765 days ago | Side: Dads
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.daddyssssssssssssssssssssssssssss girllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll L-)

699 days ago | Side: yes
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ahahaha agreeedddddd =))=)) !xxxxx mad tramp that she is :D !xxxxx

692 days ago | Side: yes

guns don't people. people kill people by using guns as a weapon

756 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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No matter how many gun laws are in effect the only people that will obey them are good law abiding citizens.

I am a police officer in PA and we find guns made with wood and pipe a criminal can make a gun for under 2.00.

If we ban guns the only people that will be armed are the criminals.

It is a fact that murder and violent crime is at a 45 year low and gun ownership is at a all time high.

Guns for good guys save lives

710 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Prohibit guns where appropriate.

Do not ban guns when guns are the tools of man.

701 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns don't kill...People do.

Outlawing guns will only make them popular and worth more money, like Prohibition. People will get rich quick buying and selling under the table. It's like abortion. I'm completely against it. I think it should be considered murder, but I'd rather people murder safely so that the baby and mother don't die.

696 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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if people don't like guns, then don't buy them. I hate rap music, I don't buy any. I don't need to ban it, I just choose not to own it. My having a gun doesn't affect any of my neighbors because I use it legally. It is the criminals you need to worry about and banning guns won't stop them from having them.

672 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

If we look closely, guns don't kill people. People kill people. But there are millions of ways to die and everyday, it is a miracle to stay alive. If guns are taken off the streets, then something is going to replace guns. Instead of a gun, a criminal might threatened me with a bat. Now, should we then ban bats? That is like banning the Yankees and the Red Sox. lol We should not ban guns, but we should limit guns. We should limit guns to the people who can protect us...the law enforcement; police officers; the people that know how to use guns.

You can take the guns out of the Mafia. But you cannot take the Mafia out of the crimes. I bet if the Mafia does not have guns, they will still comit crimes.

537 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

They can use 92% of anything to do it not just guns paper, pen, baseball bat, glass cup, chair, hands,ect. The list goes on forever.

184 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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First of who fires a gun

A gun is an object that has no life. People control guns

Now guns in the hands of the public have actually done more good than bad.

Libya- People were able to gain guns and over throw a unjust ruler

Switzerland- It is by law to have a gun by the time your 21 and be trained with it. They have the lowest crime rate in the world.

161 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Gun control is misguided. When guns become illegal for law-abiding citizens, only criminals will have guns. If they're already criminals, they aren't following certain laws, and will almost certainly ignore more if they desire to do so. Restrictions and bans on the availability of guns to the normal populace only encourages crime, because it allows criminals to operate with more impunity, knowing that they cannot be harmed significantly by the victim of their crime. And no matter how good the police are, they cannot cover all potential crime scenes. Law-abiding citizens carrying guns can defend themselves and others in their immediate area more completely than even the best police force. Prohibiting guns from the good guys just means that the bad guys are safer.

I do, however, believe that a mental health test should be required to receive a concealed-carry license, just to ensure that all legal gun owners have the mental faculty to ensure their own and others' safety.

1469 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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"Only criminals have guns" thats untrue because the authorities will always also have guns and have better training, tactics as well. If criminals choose to guns then they will also deal with the consequence eventually. Gun control's main purpose is to reduce OPPORTUNITY. Guns make it quicker, easier and less painful to end life. Statistically it is proven that the availability of guns increases the chance of purposeful and accidental death.

There is no reason law-abiding citizens need to defend themselves as they are untrained, do not have full knowledge of the law and eventually cause more harm than good by owning such weapons.

The odds are against criminals and even tho gun control may never be complete, it significantly reduces the likelihood of death by firearm by lessening the chances and increasing the difficulty to acquire firearms.

1463 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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The problem is that the police system is not efficient enough to put those superior tactics into play when they are needed most. There are too many cases in which the police never have a chance to respond to a threat before a criminal acts, but an armed citizen in the same situation could prevent the crime.

Gun control does nothing to reduce the availability of illegal arms. There is no reason for a criminal to recognize and abide by gun control laws if he/she is going to commit a violent crime anyway. Gun control doesn't reduce the opportunities for violent crime, it reduces the opportunity for a timely response by a responsible citizen who could negate the threat responsibly and quickly.

1423 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I think the whole debate revolves around whether or not you believe people are capable or incapable of behaving properly in the presence of a gun. If you are a conservative you believe people are capable. Progressives (liberals) believe people incapable. To take it further, if I believe you are capable then it's consistent that I demand accountability from you when you choose not the behave properly. There is a basic truth that applies here: Capable is to Accountable as Incapable is to Unaccountable.

Before you respond back, consider which Ideology seeks to hold others unaccountable and you have identified those who believe others incapable.

1464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Making guns illegal wouldn't solve anything except to take them away from people that want to defend themselves. Is marijuana legal? No? Then why is it so easy to get a hold of? Banning guns will NOT keep them out of the hands of criminals. If someone wanted to get a gun, they'd find a way.

1463 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Remember how Hitler took over Germany single handedly? he registered everyones guns so that he knew where they were and who had them....then took the guns so that the citizens couldn't fight back. The crime rate in Washington D.C. has more than doubled since guns were banned- this is because the people who were committing the crimes didn't get rid of their guns because they dont follow the law!

1463 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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what about the 'RIGHT TO BARE ARMS' ?

1463 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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The 2nd Amendment was created to assure that Americans could protect themselves. Unless every gun is somehow destroyed, there will be no way to ban guns in America.

1461 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

the Second Ammendment was created in order to assure that we have the same strength as the government. The ability to overthrow it if shit goes down.

The second amendment makes all the other amendments possible.

1461 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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no if you have a guns license

1274 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

as long as people who have guns use they responsibly they should never be banned

1248 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

no guns should not be baned in america and no we should not be able 2 carry fully automatic, but if a person tries to hurt you or your family unless you are a sharpshooter then a single shot wepon will not be good enough to protect you or your family. so a semi-automatic wepon can be good to have around the house.

1246 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Just people kill people. Children would not wonder what a gun does if they are exposed to guns and people tell them the proper way to use them. Its the children who are shielded from guns that try to play with them and don't know what to do, that cause trouble.

1144 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Even if guns were banned poeple could still make there own guns.

1140 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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.if guns were banned things such like amo&things;used to build guns would be banned to so how could they build their own????? explain that to me NOW

701 days ago | Side: yes
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You're a Goddamned idiot. All over this debate saying your dumb shit. Ammo doesn't have serial numbers, and is not counted like a schedule 1 drug. therefore, dumbass, they could make a gun to fire "ammo & things". Walk off a fuckin cliff

139 days ago | Side: Stupid bitch reply

I'm a damn hippie, I suppose, since I support extremely strict gun regulation. But the keyword there is regulation. Making guns illegal would just lead to more underground dealings, making it easy for any common criminal to obtain a gun without being registered as a gun owner and without having a gun license. While some cases of this still occur, it would be far more frequent without government regulation.

1098 days ago | Side: Regulation purposes

Should [citizen] guns be banned?

- hell no.

In an arguement made by T.S. Eggleston, if guns were banned, a black market would arise as well as gun smuggling. This in return would lead to an increase in crime and honestly, who wants more crime? He states that the citizens with no previous criminal records would surrender their guns to officials, leaving them helpless and at a higher risk for being injured.

Eggleston further explains that "Criminals will always continue to break the law and prey on the law-abiding but disarmed citizens."

For the previous arguements that claim "there are almost no cases where an innocent person has defended themselves with a gun."

Thats bull. According to Eggleston and other statistics, "every 13 seconds, an American uses a legal firearm in defense against a criminal."

So, for self-protection, guns should remain legal. It prevents overcrowding of prisons, riots, and decreases many injuries. In return health costs are not forced to sky-rocket.

To suit the people that believe guns should be completely illegal....I do feel that stricter laws need to be enforced to acquire such equipment.

According to the National Rifle Association (NRAILA), in the state of Texas, an individual does not need a permit to buy a hangun, and they are not required to carry registration or a license.

This lack of legislation is one of the main reasons for the decrease in gun safety, so if we fix this, Americans can be on their way to a happy, gun legal society.

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http://www.the-eggman.com/writings/gun_ban.html

http://www.the-eggman.com/index.php

http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_tx.htm

1094 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

ok so i think thtas the guns dont kill people kill the guns well they just happen to be in between the people

1001 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Studies have shown (look at cities in Australia) that when you disarm a population crime rates go up because people no longer have the fear of people defending themselves.

939 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

I don't understand why people think that by guns being banned in America would reduce crime? Of course it won't stop crime because criminals are not going to go buy a gun legally anyway, but rather from the back of the van.

Large majority of gun owners do not like the idea of the background check, which in my opinion does is a very good. I had a background check when I purchased my gun and no problems at all. I have absolutely no problem with that. Of course, it won't stop criminals completely, but at least it will reduce the number of those who should not own guns. In addition, criminals will think twice about harming someone when you live in a state where the gun laws are not so strict........and no, I am not a NRA member nor do I ever wish to be one.

930 days ago | Side: Keep the Guns Change the System

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. So you guys think that since guns kill people, we should ban those, right? Knives kill people too, should they be banned? We cut our meat with knives so no. We kill animals and eat their meat with guns so no we shouldn't ban guns.

923 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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i do not think all guns should be banned, but certainly some. guns used for hunting are fine, but they do not serve any purpose other then that. guns such as AK-47's should be band because they are overkill. do you really need a machine gun to kill a little deer. kind of like how some knives such as switchblades are banned because they serve little purpose.

912 days ago | Side: yes
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Not exactly disagreeing with your argument, but guns can also be used for personal safety. Not just for killing "little deer".

912 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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guns just help people kill each other but its not the guns fault it has no control of its self people choices to use the gun in crime

883 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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There was a reason we the people created the 2nd ammendment, the right to bear arms. We created it so if the government went tyranical on the people, the people will have a way to defend themsleves and try to overthrow the government. If guns were banned in America, it would leave the citizens helpless against the government.

883 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

of course not it is our right as defined by the constitution to have the right bear arms and pluss do you really wan only people who got there guns illegaly to have them??

842 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

hell no! guns should definitely not be banned. some people in this country depend on guns to kill animals for food. guns don't kill people. people kill people.

832 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No, but they should be registered, and concealed weapons and handguns should not be carried in public.

832 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Not banned, but it would be reasonable to restrict and regulate access to guns like in Europe.

832 days ago | Side: Regulation purposes
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No because the second amendments says and i quote "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

832 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Whatever the Constitution says must be right, eh?

701 days ago | Side: yes
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A ban on guns would be about as effective as the illegalization of drugs.

Regardless of the law, a determined addict will always get his fix.

A determined criminal will always find a gun.

And the law to ban guns will only serve to disarm the law-abiding, leaving more people at the mercy of a criminal element.

The only TRUE solution to ending gun violence is to end ALL violence, but that is impossible by nature. A killer without a gun will use a blade or blunt object, as they do even today.

If you ban guns, violence and death will continue. Ban the guns, and the knives, and the ropes, and the rocks, and the fists.

The "gun" is just a tool. It can be used to help, as well as harm. It is the character of the man who holds responsibility for the gun that determines how it is used.

Ask yourself this: Would a gun in your hands bring only death and destruction? If you were educated about, and familiar with the weapon, would you be forced to shoot simply because it was there? Could you envision a scenario in which the gun you held might save your life?

Watch "America's Most Wanted" on Saturday nights. With every scenario you see, ask yourself if the victims of those crimes might be alive today if THEY carried a gun.

A simple internet search for instances where a firearm saved lives, and a few minutes of careful reading are all that you should need.

811 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

A ban on guns will do nothing for America except make it hard for farmers.

Most of you have probably heard about Australia banning guns after the Port Arthur massacre. We didn't ban all guns, just most of them, because our farmers need them and our police need them. We also made it near on impossible to get a license to carry them.

What I saw was friends burying their guns in the back yard, wrapped up in oiled cloths and stowed away in PVC pipe, rather than hand them in. I saw farmers, now unable to use their semi-automatics, who started to complain of repetitive-strain injuries because of the sheer number of times they had to work the bolt action on their rifles when culling cattle (we were smack-bang in the middle of a drought... it was kill or let starve).

Sure, gun-related violence went down. But violence in general didn't go down. It simply switched to different forms of violence. And if this country ever gets invaded, they've now got a population that can't fight back.

811 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Never bring a knife to a gun fight !!!! I dont want to be the person with a bat or knife when a robber comes through my house with a shotgun.

804 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Well yes guns kill people but not just people animals too. but honestly i don't think they should be banned look cars, and more stuff kill people but no one is banning that. I do think some guns should be for protection also knifes, spray but when it comes down to it where is it? your gun will be right next to you for emergency. But guns should be used for gangs or kill someone because something went wrong and you hate them, NO its for needs not bad!

793 days ago | Side: should handguns be banned

Well I doubt guns shoot by themselves, nor have feelings to kill. All depends on the user/owner and how they use it.

793 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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In my opinion, everyone in this country that is over the age of 18 should be allowed to carry a gun.

Now before you get offended, let me state my case.

If everyone had a gun then I feel that crime would go down because criminal would be less inclined to commit a crime against someone that they know has a gun just like theirs.

Now some may argue that giving guns to people will lead to people getting killed because of arguments or intoxication.

To these people I say, those that would kill eachother off are really doing our society a favor because if they are willing to commit murder then really they are uncivilized and are a threat to the law abiding citizens of this nation.

Thats just how I feel and I'm sorry if I offended anyone that has had a relative killed due to gun violence. I am sorry for your loss and I don't want to tarnesh the image of your loved ones but if they had also had a gun then the asshole (i think this word is appropriate) that killed them wouldn't have been able to end their lives so easily. Again I am sorry if anyone feels offended by this.

726 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns don't kill people, I kill people. lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

712 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
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.iam glad you find yourself funny, it wouldnt be so funny when something like this happens to you :|

701 days ago | Side: yes
josiejump1(17) Disputed
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is that a confession? do you realise someone could read that and think you are being serious, you need to think about what you are claming you weirdo!

699 days ago | Side: yes
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personally i like guns ?? you can do many things with them ? spray water ??? squirt juice in your mouth ??? MANY THINGS ! <3

701 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
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can i ask why you find guns so good, why do you like themm ??

701 days ago | Side: yes
Raaa(15) Disputed
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because they make cool noises ........ BANG BANG ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3

701 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
deee(29) Disputed
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.your a fuckeddd up smellyy olddd hag, go have sexual intercorse withh a sheep!!!!!!!!!!!!

699 days ago | Side: yes
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guns dont shoot people, people shoot people. it is impossible for a gun to have feelings of atred to shoot someone they dont like whereas it is normal for people to feel hatred. i understand that yes some people have times where the really 'hate' someone but how can it go from hating someone to killing them with a gun?? &yess;guns and cars sometimes are used to kill people but it is more known that a gun is used to kill someone. if guns were banned we wouldnt have any of these arguments i just think that if the law didnt invent guns being legal then no one would really care ?? bann gunssss now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank youu'xx

701 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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guns DO kill people ... with laughterr !!!!! :L =))) ...... !!!!!! wahahahaa

701 days ago | Side: yes

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE? , RAPPERS DOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

699 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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The truth is, if we ban guns, criminals will want them even more and there will be increased crime. Defend gun with gun, not with law.

698 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I think this whole argument is ridiculous! Read the Second Ammendment people! The people who use guns to kill people will not be stopped by a dumb law like this! One should have the right to defend themselves with a gun! Killingis already prohibited by law, there is already a law relating to this.

688 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

This is one I've been wanting to see for a while now. It'd be absolutely ridiculous to ban guns,why would you even want to do that. So what,people are using them for bad reasons. That comes natural with being human,we have to expect some people to misuse and abuse the things that can be of good use to others. It's just like the debate on whether they should ban rated M video games or not,it's just pitiful. If we're going to ban guns,we might as well bans knives,fireworks,and even computers. Anything CAN be used to hurt people,that doesn't mean that it's always used for negative reasons. If they are going to ban guns,then they might as well just ban everything else that's negatively used...ha good luck with that

688 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Statistics actually show that areas where owning guns is allowed has a lower burglary rate than areas that don't allow it.

Besides, banning guns isn't going to make it disappear, just like how illegal drugs are banned, though millions keep on consistently use them.

675 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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If we disarmed all the law abiding citizens, the criminals would have no resistance. Criminals won't obey the law and get rid of their weapons, that is why they are criminals. Besides, I see something huge coming. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I feel I will need my guns to protect me very soon.

672 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Most guns used in murders and homicides are obtained illegally. It's also in our constitution, saying that wear have the right to bear and keep arms. having open carry laws would actually decrease crime. If you see somebody with a gun, you aren't going to be stupid enough to try and rob them are you? it's also a way to defend ourselves, many crimes are preventable if the victim had a way to defend themselves. There are also ways to get people to use and keep guns responsibly. Gun safety classes and marksmanship classes.

664 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Can a gun kill someone? Yes, but it can't fire without someone or something pulling its trigger! If we ban guns we have no defense against the criminals who get their guns illegally. It is easier for them to rob houses and stores if the criminal knows the other person has no good defense.

556 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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If we ban guns we are going against the 2nd amendment (the Constitution)!! Citizens have the right to bear arms!

556 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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You might say that guns kill people but they also protect people. Guns should not be banned because defenseless people need some way to defend them selfs at home from robbers or who ever tries to harm said person. In way guns to hurt people, but the ultimately protect people as well.

531 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

If you're alone at night in a park within the rough part of the inner city, you need a gun. If guns were banned, someone with a knife might come up and rob you easily. Guns can kill people but they also provide a lot of protection. Plus, if someone REALLY wanted to kill someone else, he would, gun or no gun.

525 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

If criminals followed gun laws, gun control would work great.

486 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

yes guns kill people,but it depends who is holding the gun.we need guns for wars,protection, if someone breaks in to your house what weapon would you chose a blunt object, a sharp object,or a gun.I choose GUN!

479 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns should not be banned from America. The people that are using guns for stupid crap should be banned from America. Guns are mostly for self defense and target shooting and things like that. There not for shooting random people that are innocent and had no reason to be shot. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

476 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns don't kill people, Chuck Norris kills people. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

476 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Are You Not Thinking Logically? Guns Purpose Are For Protection. Why Should We Ban Guns Because They Are Bought And Sold By PEOPLE Who Should Take More Effort Into Who THEY SELL These Guns To That Are Inflicted And Abused And Sadly Kill Other People. Why Take Away A Right To Every American To Keep A Fire Arm for The Sole Purpose Of Protecting His/Her Loved Ones, Belongings Or Property, Because Of The Mistakes And Wrong Intentions Of Disgusting, Self-Less And Corrupt Human Beings. It Is Just Like The Bans On Pit Bulls. You Put Down An Animal That's Main Intention Inbedded In It's Nature Is To Be Mans Companion. Yet Let The "Man" Who Raised The Dog From Birth Get A Hefty Fine And Go Unscathed? Ridiculous, Banning A Product/Thing, Only Create Doorways For Illegal Markets, And Bring Ideas Into The Heads Of Thousands (Just Like They Are Finding Ways Now To Abuse The Right To Own A Fire Arm) Ways To STILL Own And Sell Guns. It Isn't Going To Make Anything Better, It's Just Going To Make Matters More Dramatic.

464 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

people who want to kill, will kill if you ban guns, they will kill with knives, or something else. when you ban guns murders will still happen. And criminals will get guns some other way if they have to. banning guns will leave citizens unprotected from the criminals who get guns illegally. Allowing non-felon, non-drug addicted, non-psychiatric persons to carry guns for personal protection should be perfectly legal.

458 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Clearly gun crime is a problem in some places. And when we look at gun crime we find it is prevalent in places where citizens have been restricted from having guns and the crooks have all the (illegal) guns. Washington DC is an example.

Add to that the fact that gun crime (in an area) is not related to the guns law-abiding citizens have. Its concentrated in high crime areas where gun laws are weakly enforced – at best.

What we really need is more guns on the street.....legal guns

456 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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No because it is our right to be able to defend oneself, and those we love. Remeber it does not mean attack those who are a threat, it means only using them to defend ourselves, as civilians.

I personally do not find a need for one, because I have all the protection I need. Jesus christ.

435 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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NO Absolutely NO ! If that ever occurs , The United States has fallen , it will be goodbye time to Freedom

435 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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It is time all the good guys and COPS be trained to handle and carry guns. Terrorist are waiting to come into our children schools. They are not there for show and tell. They are there to kill and kill. This why we need cops with guns and other good guys to stop the threat before our children our killed. They are out there just waiting for their orders to strike! Did we forget about Russia Beslan School in 2004? 380 deaths and 783 injured! These cops did not have guns and had to wait for the Russian Military to come (and wait and wait, while innocent children was murdered!). Just think what one armed trained cop or good guy could have done! Don’t think for a second it couldn’t happen to your school or your children. It is time that citizen’s stand up for their unarmed cops/security and demand they are armed and trained.

391 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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if the government tries to take my guns they'll have to go through lots of bullets first plus the government would collapse and people would be killing the government for trying to take them. and i would help.........oh question do guns sneak out at night and go kill your neighbors and kill you......

381 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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This question is ridiculous.

No guns not should be banned.

We have the right to own firearms.

Our country was made this way. Keep it that way.

299 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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yes,your right but thats where the the problem is. People are taking advantage of our right to bear arms.

214 days ago | Side: yes

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."

-George Washington

"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men."

-Samuel Adams

249 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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First of all let's set a side the hole guns kill people that's bs. Guns kill people just as much as a pencil miss spells a word. People kill people.

If we didn't have the right to bare arms then there would be no way to stop the goverment from taking us over. And for all of you who think the naming of guns will stop killing. Your an idiot, people will buy and sell guns though the black marget.

Who ever said that guns don't stop a robber or any other criminal, last time a check three rounds of 9mm will stop a guy dead in his tracks. And for those who said 90% of rape, killing… guns don't stop there is one reasion. It's is becousethe victims don't have guns.

Should we allso put a ban on knives to.

184 days ago | Side: Guns don't kill people people kill

Like many have said, if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Law abiding citizens would have to break said law to protect their property and family because the millions of felons out there who have already purchased guns illegally would not turn theirs in. Even if they never had bad intentions with them in the first place, spilling the beans that they even owned one would get them in trouble. I won't be turning mine in if the day comes. I hunt, which most city folk no nothing about with their processed foods and/or vegetarian ways. Most of you on the other end of this debate probably never touched a gun, much less shot one before, and base your opinion on the decision that you simply have no use for them. Deer have to be taken down with an arrow or bullet to be field dressed or taken to a processor. Cows are different; they're stupid and will just walk right into the butcher shop. In a perfect world,(not my perfect world) say every firearm and ammo round was gone, everywhere. Bad people could still kill you with a knife or heavy blunt object, and inside your bedroom where you should feel the safest, you could easily be cornered and stabbed or bludgeoned to death. I think any of you who wouldn't use a gun to protect yourselves won't use much of anything else to either. If you had lived in the country, and were raised up by a father that took you hunting, you wouldn't feel the way you do. I live in an area where people get murdered about as often as a lunar eclipse occurs, but I always keep a pistol close by. It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it! Children brought up around guns have considerably more respect for them. When you hear of kids finding a gun and one shoots the other by mistake, I think of a yankee that never showed it to them, or taught them safe handling and I imagine he never shot it himself. If you are satisfied with the thought of curling up in a ball when an intruder crashes through your front door, by all means do. But, they are going to kill you if they want to. If somebody breaks through my door, I'm going to shoot them, and then ask them why they didn't knock. You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold dead fingers. People are just generally better once you leave the city. Sure, there are still people living off of the system, but mostly people around here have to work to survive. It seems much easier for a criminal living in the city to kill and steal there, and walk around the corner to make a buck off the treasures obtained. God blessed texas! We have more guns than any other state, and by far the nicest people who would go out of their way to help a stranger in need. I've been broken down out of state more than once on a busy road, and helped change tires in Florida and ll the way back across to here, and in every case it was hours before someone came along that gave a shit. Here you'll have 3 pickups pulled in behind you in 10 minutes time, and that's on the road less traveled. If you don't respect our second amendment, you are a yankee, Democrat, and a douche. And you probably use your horn more than 10 times a day. And you're probably a bit of a dick. You probably don't say a kind word to strangers either.

139 days ago | Side: Guns don't kill people people kill
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If guns or firearms were to be banned think of the unemployment rate that would increase greatly. Firearm companies would go out of business because there would be no customers. The ammunition manufactures would go out of business also because of the lack of users. The economy is already unstable as it is. This is one of the many reasons why guns should NOT be banned!

133 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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If we did ban them it could turn into what the Prohibition was: a time where alcohol (and now perhaps guns) is sold on the black market and sought after arguably even more. If we ban guns it'll give more power to organized crime and also take away an economic chunk from the USA (from selling guns, hunting etc.). It should also be noted that by banning guns it could cause social upset and people protesting their right to wield arms, thus causing civil unrest and cracks within society.

133 days ago | Side: No

So Guns take and save lives and for those people who are talking bout kids getting hurt cuase they think its a toy the parents of those kids should put the guns in SAFE'S or somwhere where the children cant get to its called being responsible i mean sure some people are stupid and go buy a gun they know nothing about and either hurt themselves or somone their with. Now the second reason to keep guns if you have a robber that comes into your house and you think oh just let them have it and you hide somwhere and they know your there they will find u and either kill u or rape u now see if u had a gun in a safe under or by ur bed and a robber breaks in thats when u role out of bed open the safe grab ur gun hide somwhere and when he tries to get shoot him in the stomach or chest who cares if he dies or not he was the one who took his chance on it by robbing you. And you should feel the need to get protection especially if you have children what if a rapist/serial killer breaks in do u wanna see ur kid get raped and killed that could have been prevented had you had a gun to protect yourself and ur family cus u better know that if i have a wife and kids or its just me i will grab my gun and shoot the idoit that tried to rob me. or lord help me if i have to stick up for somone who doesnt beleive in guns i would help him even if he could help himself

Just because some people are stupid doesnt mean they have to ruin it for the rest of us it called hunter safty for a reason and it does save lives and oh ya im 16 and i have the brains to know that guns save lives

131 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

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124 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I can't believe anyone would be okay with the second ammendment being broken! I may be very young and not understand as much or have that much experience but if we take away our guns we take away our rights. What if we were invaded? and all of our guns were banned? how the heck are we suppoesed to survive if we can't protect ourselves? how the heck do we cope if the government takes all of our weapons away? what if it's all a trap for the government just to take us down easier to control us easier? Yeah it may sound outragious or stupid... but just think about it .... to stay on safe measures lets keep guns.

117 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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USA may not last forever then what? China is building a big ARMY, why do you think that is, dumby?

Watch the movie DARFUR the slaughtered are also unarmed, you think it cannot happen here with the people in our country taking over by deciept. You folks which support gun control are lead by wolves, or DOGS to the slaughter just like Hitler lead the jews.

Look where their weak jews (not fighting back) attitude got them, slaughtered like you gun grabbers will be, slaughtered or taken to slavery.

Germans would not invade countries with armed citizens, mandated by law to have access to weapons, real weapons not just single shot.

You jokers which are so for disarming our country are traitors, like cockroaches in our great society.

You will NEVER admit any facts, most have another agenda, we may not know the exact agenda, but you can be sure it is not an agenda to create a free society here in our great USA. You want to control, you are control freaks and listen to progressives agenda to control, you can not be changed. There is a study underway which may prove, you folks are the way you are because, you were dropped on your head when you were babies, or your mama got punched while you were in the womb. which caused brain damage. Which is where the negative attitude comes from.

Gun Grabbers throw rocks at the tanks and thugs when they come to rape your woman like happened in our own country just after the huricane.

Gun grabbers deserve what they get in the end, I trained my kids with the movie Defience, as a training ground, somewhat true movie and the revolt started with taking a gun from another, Jews lived because they fought back ... with a GUN dumby.

YOU DONT WANT GUN CRIMES, ARM EVERY CITIZEN which is willing and mentally capable to defend themselves and others.

911 would not have happened if I was on the plane, or if someone like me and we were allowed to carry our firearms on board.

I have 21 years of MILITARY SERVICE

POLICE Service

AND HIGH LEVEL EMERGENCY RESPONDER

Gun Grabbers WHO ARE YOU??????????????

I am a defender of our CONSTITUTION

Who are you defending, CRIMINAL FRIENDS??? Or mayby you are playing footsy with CHINA or THUGS, which you will get guns ANYWAY reguardless of your petty laws.

JOKERS this is a STUPID DEBATE and won't change a thing with gun grabbers, they like the pain and lies they put out.

88 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I agree with everything you just said, and Defiance was a great movie!

77 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns are inanimate objects, guns don't have fingers to pull their own triggers and aren't alive so how do guns "kill" people? I am a gun collector, and I have yet to kill anyone with any of my guns.

77 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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If guns would be made illegal, then only criminals would have them. Comforting thought, that one.

76 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I concede that Guns let people kill others. ultimately, people kill people.

69 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

I agree with the fact that guns weapons doesn't kill people they are just a tool that is being use, such knives, or even are hands. The one who is doing the killing is the on handling the weapon the tool.

33 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

Guns do not kill people, people do. What would be next? Banning knives? Banning cleaning products? Banning water?

26 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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...oops, this is an accidental post, my argument is up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

1144 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns are two sided. They can protect you when someone breaks into your house, but they can hurt if someone pulls one on you.

318 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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guns dont kill people cause someone has to pull the trigger or be dropped people who want to ban guns have never felt the nice chill of fine steel in there hands

299 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.

No!!! We are going to need our guns for when the shooting starts ;)

214 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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First off guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Guns are merely tools to do the job.

Problems will just get worse like they did when alcohol got banned. People would sell alcohol illegally. I have no doubt that the same would happen with guns. The banning of alcohol brought us Al Capone, imagine what the banning of guns would give us.

Robberies are illegal so if guns were illegal nothing would change.

There are three main reasons why someone would break the law. One, to get money. Two they did not know about it. Or three, to get infamy or fame.

23 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Maryland has no guns on the streets or anywhere except your house or a firing range. They also have the highest crime rate of all the united states of America.

23 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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the maker of the website obviously was for banning guns due to their being no No button but in-staid a no, guns don't kill people button.

23 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I love how individuals that don't know a thing about guns are trying to impose their views to infringe on others 2A "Rights". No one is questioning the 1A "Right"?!!? To let everyone know there is no state in the country were gun ownership is illegal....That would be unconstitutional! However there are many states in the country that infringe on the right of certain types of gun ownership. Lets take New Jersey, It is illegal to use hollow point bullets(which are legal just about everywhere else) because so one got a hold of bad information. A hollow point has less chance of doing secondary damage than a FMJ round. I am using this as an example people who know nothing about firearms so not speak until they get the facts. I have never seen a gun jump of the self load itself and walk down the street and start shooting people. If some one has I would like to know??? The actions of a few should not dictate the actions for everyone. People complain about laws not working because the LAWLESS ARE BREAKING THEM. I value human life and the police are not required to protect the individual. (I cant remember the federal case but the SCOTUS said that the police do not have the obligation of protecting the citizen) So who does? Most people don't realize that semi-Auto assault rifles are regulated by the state. However fully automatic assault rifles are regulated by the Federal Government. Every time the new puts something about assault rifle they show FULL AUTO federally regulated rifle which can only be transfered and not but new. (the federal firearms act of 1985). So get the facts before you start disputing because you will find that the info you have is wrongfully skewed! An armed society is a safer society.

20 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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I would like to make my first statement by saying if people got rid of guns people will find other weapons to kill people with. Its going to be a never ending thing no matter what you get rid of. Second is everybody forgetting about the hunters in the world. Hunting is one of Americas favorite sport. People would be absolutely devastated if that was taken away from them. Think about it

7 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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people use guns to kill people, guns dont kill people! i had to add more sorry.

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5 days ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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Guns don't kill people.

WE kill people.

Ban guns the the murders will go to knives or their hands.

will you cut off our hands because those three people choked someone to death?

1 day 14hrs ago | Side: No, guns don't kill people.
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