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Debate Score:88
Arguments:66
Total Votes:94
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Should health care be free in the U.S.A?

Yes

Side Score: 49
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No

Side Score: 39
3 points

Health Care is not a privilege, and it shouldn't be a commodity, it should be a right of all citizens. If we can find money to kill people, nearly a trillion dollars in just the war in Iraq, then the richest nation on earth can certainly find money to heal people. And if that means we have to take a few billion dollars away from our bloated and inefficient military, so be it. The United States if the only western industrialized country without universal health care, and even most third-world countries have it, which puts our country in quite the shameful position.

Side: yes
usps(365) Disputed
1 point

Most third-world countries have free health care because the United States of America pays for it! the only shame is in your heart that your country can never do enough for the rest of the world.

you hate your country.

Side: No
Pineapple(1448) Disputed
3 points

Can you back that statement up, oh pretty please? I'd appreciate it.

Side: No
Saffron(94) Disputed
1 point

Wow, your argument literally made me laugh -- mostly due to your last point.

Care to give me any facts that back up your hypothesis? ;] The United States donates about 13b a year, Japan donates about 10b a year...I don't think that's enough to pay health care for every third-world nation on earth.

Side: yes
freedomrules(33) Disputed
1 point

No the U.S.A does not pay for it where did you go to school?and don't you even say Harvard.Plus it doesn't sound like his ashamed of his country it sounds like YOU hate the U.S.

Side: yes
2 points

HELL YEAH!! "WE" THE TAX PAYERS PAY ENOUGH DAMN MONEY FOR OUR COUNTRY TO HAVE IT! INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT THE FUCKING WOULD LETS WORRY ABOUT OUR OWN PEOPLE!!!!!!!

Side: yes
1 point

The US health system should be identical to that of Australia. Seems to be working.

Side: yes
1 point

Nobody should go bankrupt because they are not healthy. You can say that people need to "own up" and "contribute equally," but the truth is that not everyone can and it shouldn't be the end of someone's existence if they can't.

Too many people in the USA go bankrupt because of health. Given the inflated cost of health care and the lack of justified support from insurance companies (and downright dishonesty), it should not be allowed for them to continue to treat health like a business.

Existence is a right. Hands down.

Side: yes

I'm from England where we have a NHS paid for through taxes.

I get sick of reading in the newspaper about Republicans and some Democrats talking about how it's a poor system and telling horror stories about it.

No one should have to suffer debt or bankruptcy because they cannot afford healthcare.

Obama was compared to Hitler for trying to help 49 million people have a higher standard of living? Clearly some people don't know who Hitler was and if your comparing Obama to Hitler than I'm not going to take your opinion about anything seriously.

Side: yes
1 point

Yes, we are given the right to live as soon as we are born. In many cases health care is essential to life just as water, food, and air are. The right to live should not be able to be taken away by the greed of an other; this amounts to nothing more than murder. I know, it'll be expensive but, what is money? Money is just paper and digits. Why is a society willing to trade paper and digits for the lives of fellow human beings? People need life.

Side: yes
1 point

It should be. But I have long understood that this is just a dream. Health care is a big burden for citizen, and it is also too much a burden for government. But if this is to be real, the numbers of life insurance company

will be shrinking, not good for the industry..

Side: yes
1 point

Yes I think it should we pay thousands in taxes every year I live in California Idk about other states we save money and when u get older u loose everything u made and more in paying doctors and prescriptions u end up worst than you started

Side: Yes

I support Universal Health Care and I wish all health care would be free.

Side: Yes

First, there is no such thing as free health care anywhere.

Two options-

Government Controlled-pay through taxes. Perceived to be free because when you need care, you go to the hospital and it is already paid. Well, it can be free, if you pay no taxes.

Private Controlled-pay through premiums and deductibles.

Side: No
2 points

Then which is your opinion, government run or privatized?

Side: yes

Government interference in the economy can be most harmful; however, government health care is the most equitable form because health care is really a matter of right rather than privileged especially in a rich society. Health care is one of few interventions of government support.

Side: yes
3 points

Nobody is arguing for "free" health care. All the Democrats want to do is make some minor changes to our existing system so that it works better for everybody.

Republicans have dumped millions of dollars into spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt about these proposals. Do a little research. Don't let the bastards fool you into voting against your own best interests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_reform_in_the_United_States

Side: No
usps(365) Disputed
2 points

Minor changes? you should print this bill.

http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

Side: yes
jessald(1915) Disputed
1 point

Why link to the full bill? If a regular Joe asks you how an airplane works you don't send them a full engineering schematic -- you send them a summary. Here is a summary of the House health care bill:

http://edlabor.house.gov/blog/2009/10/affordable-health-care.shtml

As you can see there is no communist plot.

Side: No
2 points

I'm going to play devil advocate, so no one assume I would just let a person die if they cannot pay their bills, I support charity and giving and its sad that the world does not work that way. What I want to know is how "free" health care will improve my life. When I look at a government run business, the words fast and efficient or innovative do not come to my mind. To prevent a counterpoint of NASA or some other program I don't know about, I will say the government does produce technological innovation, but not in a field where its objective is to provide a service. As sad as this is most people do not discover a medicine that cure a condition without a desire for profit, so why will people create new/more cost efficient technologies, when it earns them nothing. I may be wrong here and if someone can prove me wrong, then good, I would rather live knowing that all the people that created a new invention did so out of the goodness of their heart, not for profit, but it seems to me that government businesses do not produce innovation, and in a field where there is still so much to discover, why should we stunt its growth for a small percentage of a population. (My grammar and spelling may be off and I apologize for that)

Side: No
1 point

NO. It is just teaching Americans to be lazy and not work. That is not what USA is or should be.

Side: No
RevKristine(209) Disputed
3 points

Here in Australia we have subsidised health care. It's not free, but we pay a lot less out of pocket than people in the US, and people who have low or no income can sometimes get the government to cover the entire cost of their medical bills, and the major portion of their medications. It doesn't teach people to be lazy. What it does is allow people to get a good standard of health care on a regular basis. This means that people go to their doctor at the start of their illness, rather than waiting until they're so ill that they need emergency care.

We do pay for our health care through our taxes and I don't think health care should be free, however there are some major benefits to subsidised health care. It reduces the amount of down time due to illness for the low income workers, and makes them more able-bodied. It also reduces the chances of people catching communicable diseases. If anything, it means that people work more, not less.

Side: yes
Saffron(94) Disputed
2 points

...Or you die!

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: yes
1 point

Universal Health care is so great the Canadians come to America for service if they can afford it, to bad if you cant.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/19664

Earlier this week it was revealed that Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams was going to the United States for heart surgery. Like most Canadian politicians, Williams is a big proponent of Canada’s socialized health care system.

The premier’s office has been tight lipped about exactly what is wrong with Williams and has only said that whatever treatment that he needs is not available in his home province.

Side: No

No. The United States of America is not a socialist nation.

Side: No
1 point

Lets first ask, "Could health care be free in the U.S.A?" If so. how?

Otherwise, lets debate, "Should the sun shine at night?"

Side: No
1 point

Actually the first aid facility is expensive but.....

if the government start giving the money then.......

the government would be on roads

and the taxes would be too... high and this is a tough time for the US because of economic crisis .........

Side: No
1 point

No for the following reasons:

1. (Quality) There is actually free health care in many countries. Problem is, people of those countries tend to favor privet hospitals over government ones due to quality of service issues. This include poor people because when you really need a hospital, you would rather pay than die.

2. (Knowledge Level) Doctors pay will decrease making the job less attractive for those smart and hard working doctors. Your grandsons will end up with a barber shop kind of doctors like in many developing countries.

3. (economy effect) Medical care is 1/6 of US economy. Government sponcered medical care will kill thousands of insurance companies and private practice clinics and hospitals.

I can think of many more reasons but gotta go to sleep now. So, i will be back if someone is interested.

Side: No
1 point

Free lunch? Where?

There is no such thing as 'Free' health care, ether Mr. safety who never needs any health care pays through tax for

Mr. chainsawjuggler who needs it almost constantly or everyone pays for themselves.

Side: No