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Yes, I think parents should No, I think parents shouldn't
Debate Score:76
Arguments:51
Total Votes:86
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 Yes, I think parents should (26)
 
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Should parents be allowed to hit their child for discipline?

People believe that children should be hit as they have became more spoilt since the parents don't hit their children for true discipline.
But, others believe that hitting for discipline is bad for children as they believe it will put major scars on their life.

Decide which side you are on and debate like mad. Make steam come off your keyboard until you get what you want said, said.

Yes, I think parents should

Side Score: 36
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No, I think parents shouldn't

Side Score: 40
4 points

First of all you are doing what Leftwing morons do all the time on liberal media. They use careful wording to make the discipline sound like brutal corporal punishment.

You used the wording hit a child, instead of spanking a child. If you don't understand the difference, then why are you on a debate site?

The human race has been spanking our children for thousands of years with great results, and all of a sudden along comes no fault anything goes Progressives and guess what?

All of a sudden spanking a child is considered brutality and abuse of a child. Progressives spew complete hogwash of how spanking a child will cause scars.

LOL, give me a break!

This just feeds into my comments of how weak the Left is on crime and even disciplining our children.

We have fool Leftwing pyscologists who actually say it is better for the parent to go into the bathroom so that the child will be lonely and feel bad about behaving badly.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, I MEAN COME ON! These are the intellectuals of the progressive movement.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
camiheall(18) Disputed
2 points

Is it worth arguing semantics over two words that essentially mean the same thing? They have different connotations, but in the specific context of this debate, it isn't difficult to work out what they mean. And besides, it's not as though there's never been parents who've been overly violent for the sake of discipline. The line between punishment and child abuse quickly blurs, and even if we aren't referring to the types of people who cross that line, it still doesn't justify that style of parenting once you consider the affects studies have proven that corporal punishment can have on an adolescent's development.

Just because something has been going on for a long time doesn't automatically make it right, especially when the "great results" you talk about are really anything but. Actually, research has shown that children who grow up in homes where corporal punishment is used are more likely to resolve conflicts through aggression, are more likely to develop anxiety or depression, and are more likely to act out defiantly. So while I'm not claiming that spanking your kid is the equivalent to beating them and that those two things are gonna have the same physical and psychological affects, I genuinely don't see how attempting to explain to your child what they did wrong instead of using straightfoward discipline is somehow a radical and weak idea.

One source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/18/adrian-peterson-corporal-punishment-science n5831962.html

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
FromWithin(7669) Disputed
2 points

Let me repeat what I said. Any person that does not understand the difference between spanking and hitting should not be on a debate site.

Do you have any idea how easily so called "research" can be done cherry picking data to push the results they want?

People with the least amount of intellect should know that to get to the truth, one must see life and see the obvious before them.

I have grown up with a huge extended family, with hundreds of family members that I know have mostly been spanked.

Out of those hundreds of examples, NOT ONE of them ever grew up resolving conflicts with aggression!

No one has ever been arrested. They all have good relationships with their children and parents. They live good moral lives with only one divorce in all the families, far far below national averages.

EXCEPT FOR THE ONE DIVORCE, ALL THE CHILDREN ARE LIVING WITH BOTH MOTHER AND FATHER.

You can sit there and spew so called research which means absolutely NOTHING when cherry picked.

I have lived long enough to have seen the results of what happens to our families when fool Progressives come along and start judging parents who spank their children.

It's been many decades of bleeding heart Liberals pushing their politics and psychology concerning parenting.

Look around at the results. RECORD NUMBERS of broken homes with no fathers. Gang violence from so many children with no fathers at home and no discipline. People like you will try and say these gang members were all beating by their fathers and learned violence as a result. HOGWASH! Most gang members never had a father living with them.

The sickest part about Liberals, Progressives, or Democrats is that they never learn. They are like insecure dysfunctional people who spend their lives trying to tell others how to raise our children even though the evidence shows how failed your philosophy is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1895844/Family-breakdown-makes-children-join-gangs.html

Side: Yes, I think parents should
cownbueno(407) Disputed
1 point

I leave for a few months and you're still here just as stupid as you were when I left. With age certainly does not come wisdom, you are living proof.

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
1 point

Down voting me is only an admission of my claim.

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Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
3 points

It depends. My parents beat my ass for any little thing they considered bad. I do not agree with that form of discipline but a smack to the back of the head when they do bad things just so they understand you are the parent not their friend is ideal.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
2 points

Yes, they absolutely should. "Hitting" a child on occasion cannot be compared to actively beating a child. Look at mother animals in the wild. Lionesses, for example, will pinch the scruff of their cub's neck with their teeth if the cub misbehaves. Apes, closer to us, will also pinch or slap their young to correct a behavior. Why? Because sometimes, without realizing it, youngsters- of any species- put themselves in dangerous situations without realizing the potential danger of said situations. A simple word of advice is not always sufficient to explain to the child, especially a very young one, the danger of their behavior and may repeat it in the future, curious about WHY they weren't allowed to do so in the first place. However, if the child associates that behavior with a small amount of pain, they will be less likely to repeat- they will associate the behavior with pain and thus, danger. If, for example, a two-year-old reaches out to touch a hot pan despite his mother's warning, a smack on the bottom can teach that child to associate touching the hot pan with pain and thus danger, without going through the actual process of burning himself to learn so. If, when he reaches for the pan, his mother merely stands around, or simply says no, the trust the child will feel towards his mother will be reduced- because she couldn't, or wouldn't, protect him from the actual danger. If she grabs him away from the pan and scolds him, he will be curious as to why, and does not understand the notion of danger, children needing to touch to discover the world.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
camiheall(18) Disputed
0 points

There's a difference between physically disciplining a child and making a move so that they don't harm themselves, though. I don't think anyone's gonna claim it'd be a super bad thing to slap a kid's hand away from a hot pan when you might not have the time to verbally warn them not to, nor does anyone equate that to beating a child. Besides, even if a parent did just pull the kid away, scolding them isn't the only option available. Even younger children are usually perceptive enough to understand basic explanations as to why they shouldn't do something.

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
1 point

There is a difference between sucker-punching your child out of discipline and spanking them on the booty.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
1 point

Discipline is an important factor of raising a child that many modern couples have failed to incorporate into their roles as parents. The parent is supposed to guide the child into effectively knowing what is right and wrong, and how to develop the child's intellect and moral values to the point where the child can eventually determine these independently of parental aid. As a result of this failure, many children do not cultivate moral values and fail to recognize the heavy weight beheld by consequences and the impacts of their decision in everyday life on other individuals.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
1 point

When it comes to this Id have to say that "hit" no, however every kid needs a good wippin' every now and then, otherwise theyll never learn.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
1 point

Some kids don't learn from just getting yelled at or a phone taken away. Kids nowadays are so disrespectful towards their parents and are spoiled brats. Maybe getting hit a couple times will knock them into place. The parents that say it's cruel either never had a bratty child or tolerate getting yelled at by their kids. I'm not a parent but I know people that are disrespectful towards their parents and it hurts me to think that some kids treat and talk to their parents the way they do. Some kids deserve to be hit a time or two and need to be straightened out.

Side: Yes, I think parents should

I think beating is necessary under certain circumstances. Kids often don't know what mistakes they make, obviously due to their innocence, it's very important for them to know a clear definition of what is right and what is wrong. In other terms, what is good for them and what is bad for them.. parents for sure want the best for their children and would do anything to get them a good life.. (there will be examples of the opposite, humans are flawed, but in most cases, that is what they want) according to me, small mistakes.. ones which will not affect the kid in his/her future need not be treated with beating. But if they do something which may actually harm them in the future, beating should be allowed. I personally, thank my parents for bringing me up, beating me for any reason they saw would affect my future, which if I look upon today, what I feel is "I'm happy I didn't turn out that way".. and after all, they're parents, they wiped your ass at some point of your life, why do you possibly think they'd intend to hurt you just for the heck of it??

Side: Yes, I think parents should
1 point

There is a HUGE difference between hitting a child and spanking. Spanking is used to correct behaviors while hitting just implies use for abusive purposes. There are some children that do NOT learn through repeated time outs and grounding. Spanking should only be used when and if all other options do not work, especially in instances where the repeated behavior puts the child's life at risk. It's a final effort when all other efforts have not worked, it shouldn't be the first.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
1 point

yes. kill all children. :)

Side: Yes, I think parents should
1 point

Yes, they should. You can raise your child as you like. I was hit as a kid and sometimes it was the only thing that got me to behave.

I think hitting your kid is acceptable IF there is an immediate danger to the child that you don't have time to explain right away, but you should explain to the child why you hit them as soon as the danger has passed. For example, dragging a kid out of traffic and giving them a clip around the ear. The pain will be associated with the danger and they'll understand not to do it again.

The other time it's acceptable is if the child is being persistently naughty AND:

1. All else has failed; you've told them clearly to stop at least once.

2. You give them a chance not to get hit; you tell them clearly "if you don't stop I will smack you."

3. You follow through on the threat.

4. You don't use excessive force. A single smack across the buttocks that isn't too hard, just enough to give a bit of a shock and hopefully stop them acting up.

5. Tell them it will happen again if they continue to misbehave.

Optional steps:

6. Find the kid afterwards, explain what you did and apologise. Encourage them to apologise too.

7. Make sure they know you still love them.

What I don't think is acceptable:

-Hitting your child repeatedly, then it just becomes about the parent's anger / frustration and not punishment.

-Using excessive force or an inappropriate instrument e.g. a belt buckle or a stick.

-Leaving a clear mark.

-Hitting your child in the face.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
1 point

The real question is whether or not you want the government to be that involved in family life.

Side: Yes, I think parents should

Look, discipline to the extent of hitting depends on the depth of one's stupidity.

A child plays around a lit mosquito coil. His dad pulls him back severally but didn't work. He left the 2yrs old kid to touch the red fire tip and when he got burnt on the finger, he cried all night and never went near a flaming mosquito coil again.

How many times will this work?

When it's electricity, a sharp object, a deadly chemical?? etc.....(do you know how many kids die from that?)

Foolishness and curiousity abounds in the heart of every kid. Some cannot shake it off even after age 16, how much more below.(Some even turn out to be Donald trump ;at his current age and level of intelligence).

We train humans beings and we rear animals.

Go to the market and buy yourself some intelligence, and wisdom....

Have a nice shopping day.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
5 points

No, of course not. Violence is universally condemned by just about every reasonable person on Earth. Are you saying the exception -- the one time violence becomes beneficial -- is when you are hurting your own kids? That's literally the most stupid thing I've ever heard. It's like saying rape is bad unless you do it to your own kids.

When you "discipline" your own kids by hitting them, you are teaching them to use violence against smaller people in order to get their own way. If you can't explain to your kids what you mean using words then you are a moron who should never have been permitted to raise kids in the first place.

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
4 points

No, children shouldn't be hit as a form of punishment. Sure, it's important to have boundaries as a parental figure, but disregarding a kid's current and future emotional well-being for the sake of getting them to stop misbehaving in the short term does nothing but build mistrust and resentment.

If someone supports corporal punishment because they think it shows a child they've done something they shouldn't have, doesn't lashing out purely through violence defeat the purpose of wanting to teach them right from wrong in the first place? For example, if a kid were to lie and they admitted it, and in response their parent hit them, how does that explain to them that what they did wasn't ethical? How will that show them why telling the truth is the right thing to do morally? It won't. If anything, in this context it might just make them think that they shouldn't be honest if it keeps them from getting hurt. Or if they are honest in the future, it might only be because they don't wanna suffer the consequences, and not because they comprehend the reason why they shouldn't lie.

Even if it isn't important to someone that their child knows why they shouldn't do something as long they don't do it, or if they argue that they can still have a discussion with their kid if they hit them, then wanting to be a positive figure in their life rather than a source of anxiety should be enough of a motivating factor to try communicating with them instead of acting out physically. There's a difference between fear and respect, and raising your child using the former won't do anything to garner the trust needed for them to know you have their best interests in mind, or to give them the stable environment most conducive to them building a healthy future.

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
nch1989(1) Disputed
1 point

I am 27 years old and I was spanked as a kid when I did stuff wrong that I knew was wrong and I have turned out fine not fearing my parents in any way other then when I did something I should not have. I agree that you can have a discussion with the kid at first explaining why they can not do something and why it is wrong. And there are different ways you can punish them like taken away toys, tv time, video games, cell phones (witch they should not have till much older) however once you tell them its wrong and have tried all of the forms mentioned to punish and it still does not work then a physical excretion of punishment should be used. Now I am not saying that you pick the kid of by the neck and pound their face in no that is abuse, however smacking the kid on the but not drawing blood but getting the point across is not wrong. You as an adult need to know the limits and difference between punishment hitting and abuse. There is a line and I would say anyone that abuses a child should go to jail because that is wrong.

Side: Yes, I think parents should
MistVillage(62) Disputed
0 points

We're not talking about torturing a child, we're talking about a simple spank or whip from a belt. I was spanked as a kid and whipped if I really screwed up. It teaches discipline and consequences to your actions, something kids nowadays need to learn because they think they can just get away with anything

Side: Yes, I think parents should
1 point

It teaches discipline and consequences to your actions

And yet employers are not permitted to whip their employees when they take action which displeases them. Funny that.

Being whipped is not a lesson. You aren't being taught anything. By your same redneck logic I should periodically punch my wife in the face so she remembers to put my dinner on the table by 4pm, yes?

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
3 points

Hello:

Hitting (spanking, whacking, slapping, beating, paddling) ISN'T a good way to teach children NOT to hit.. By the same token, killing somebody ISN'T a good way to teach anyone NOT to kill somebody..

excon

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
3 points

No, parents shouldn't hit their children under nay circumstance.

-It breaks relationships between them.

-It teaches them it's okay to hit other people, if it seems adequate.

-It makes children afraid of they people that should protect them.

-There are many other ways to discipline kids such as dialogue.

-The psychological trauma of being abused by a parent as small children is immense and it affects the victim's whole life.

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
1 point

It depends on the circumstance...

If the child is in the process right then of doing something that could seriously hurt themselves or others and it takes your direct forceful intervention to swat them away from it then do it.

But if it's just about learning the basic lessons of do this and don't do that then no they shouldn't. And these are the 99% of the time situations. Applying positive reinforcement for good behavior and consistent consequences for bad behavior can and does achieve the behavior corrections needed. I have a 3 and 1 year old and so far we have been extremely successful getting those boys to behave right without ever needing to spank or hit them. Granted, if they reached for the hot stove, or hurled sharp stuff at a little old lady, or were simply determined to run out into street traffic, then we'd do what is necessary to stop it.

The other thing is kids truly are sponges and will do whatever their parents model. If you hit them they're going to start hitting others, too. Just last week I slapped a table just once to make a noise to get their serious attention and I've seen my 1 year old do it twice since then. You have to be careful what you model.

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
1 point

No, I think parents should.

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
1 point

No. Should kids/teenagers/young adults be allowed to hit their parents for discipline when they make mistakes? You can't have it both ways and it shouldn't be allowed to go either way. It is based on bullying the other person into submission and fear. We are not chimpanzees, we can do much better than rule by force.

Side: No, I think parents shouldn't
0 points

No

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Side: No, I think parents shouldn't