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Debate Score:37
Arguments:27
Total Votes:41
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Should rape be allowed in video games?

Rape has long been stigmatised in video games and when implemented has seen huge outcries from the general public - should it be allowed or is it a bad move to let it enter the industry?

Yes

Side Score: 19
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No

Side Score: 18
4 points

First and foremost please know that I do NOT support rape.

My main concern over this is why on Earth has rape been elevated to this level that is seemingly unacceptable in the gaming world? As far as I know, murder is a more heavily punished crime, yet we see murder all the time (large gaming titles have been based off killing others). Surely, since it is a 'lesser crime', rape should be allowed if murder is.

Side: yes
TheThinker(1697) Disputed
1 point

I see this argument a lot. And with respect, i think it is an excuse. It is like saying that because the militrary is allowed to kill people in war, that citizens should be allowed to kill as well.

If i created a book on how to rape someone, then it should be allowed in children's elementrary school because they got books as well.

And the reason why i say "children" is important to my actual debate. I say allow rape in videogames that are for adults, not children. And when i mean by children, i mean by 13 years or younger. I believe that children who are young will percieve rape as a good thing. I think i played GTA San Andreas when i was 15 and never thought once of killing someone in real life.

Edit. What did i say? I mean children who are at least 16 or 17 years or younger. 13 is too young. Idiot me.

Side: No
ThePyg(6738) Disputed
1 point

Well, the military are paid by our government to go out and kill other members of the military (theoretically).

citizens are allowed to kill in self-defense (theoretically).

However, they are different cases.

Murder is a worse crime than rape (assuming this, of course).

Murder is allowed in video games.

If one believes that murder should be allowed in video games, it would make little sense to say that rape shouldn't be.

You are changing the argument to "should children be allowed to play video games with rape in it?"

Side: No
2 points

If they do allow rape then it would have to be rated AO Adults Onlys

Side: I don't know
2 points

It should be allowed, albeit, only for games for people 19 and older, with strict laws inhibiting children from playing these games and penalties following the parents if they somehow play a game like this.

Side: yes
hhioh(454) Disputed
0 points

Would you then agree that games with killing / murder in them should also be put in that category of games?

Side: No

It already is in games. Granted their pornographic adult rated games but there games none the less.

Side: yes
1 point

It is allowed in the United States because it is protected under the First Amendment.

Teens do worse things in video games (like kill people), so I wouldn't even see the moral issue with rape... it is LESS morally wrong than murdering someone (well, I'm not one to make a moral judgement, so I'll just assume that most people's morals find it this way, but really... crap-shoot).

As well, I actually played one of these games called RapeLay. It's really a lot like those interactive flash-sex games on the internet... except it's rape and one of the girls is most likely underage.

Really... whatever. it's animated and I'm not one to care about these things. People make too big of a deal out of what people do in the fantasy world. Sure, I don't see the THRILL in rape specifically, but I can see how others would (maybe cause of my love for psychology or some bullshit).

Side: yes
1 point

In an M rated game (AO rated games probably already have rape in them) I vote yes. Like many have said killing, murder, and torture are much worse crimes than rape and yet it is not censored one bit. I have played games where you see dismemberment, decapitation, disembowlment, impalement, pretty much anything you can think of when it comes to ending someones life. Yet, none of these gory actions are "fuzzed" out or censored yet you can't show a pair of breasts or genitals in an M rated game without it at least being black barred or fuzzed out. I'm not promoting rape (I personally know a close family member that has been raped) but I don't see what the big deal is with rape being in games.

Side: yes
1 point

The book that Christians love to call the word of their God has tons of rape in it.

Judges 21:20-23

20 So they instructed the Benjamites, saying, “Go and hide in the vineyards 21 and watch. When the young women of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, rush from the vineyards and each of you seize one of them to be your wife. Then return to the land of Benjamin. 22 When their fathers or brothers complain to us, we will say to them, ‘Do us the favor of helping them, because we did not get wives for them during the war. You will not be guilty of breaking your oath because you did not give your daughters to them.’”23 So that is what the Benjamites did. While the young women were dancing, each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife. Then they returned to their inheritance and rebuilt the towns and settled in them.

Murder and forced marriage

Judges 21:11-12

11 “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin. ” 12 They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.

Murder and Rape

Numbers 31:17-18

17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Murdering people is allowed in video games so I say go ahead and put a disclaimer to people. Like "Warning if you copy all the actions in this game in real life you will be going to jail for life or something like that.

Side: Yes
0 points

It already is? And it should be allowed in games that it may help the story line or whatever.

Of course, only high rated games lol

Side: yes
2 points

It could be argued that, although rape is a lesser crime, it is much more personal. Also, on a psychological level, putting crimes into video games desensitizes the users - do we really want kids who joke about rape? I would also like to point out that rape would have to include sexual aspects in the game whilst murder does not; perhaps on that front rape should not be allowed as it could be seen as stimulating (and that is just messed up).

Side: No
JackRex(10) Disputed
1 point

Rape does not always desensitize the users. Any gamer who will play such violent games would know something about all these acts and would be sympathetic to the victims of these crimes. As for kids being messed up, this does not arise because the games in which all these acts are included are usually for mature audience, not children. As for the sexual aspects in rape, it could be pointed out that murder, so as to look real, would have equally disturbing aspects which could mess up anyone just as worse.

Side: yes
hhioh(454) Disputed
3 points

Just touching on the desensitizing part, it could be argued that the user may not feel sympathy as they may be in the shoes of the rapist; perhaps the victim could have been made to seem evil in some way or another and have been said to deserve it (a reason why spy games, in which a user has kills a target, are popular and the users don't go 'poor guy' after they kill them). Also, mature people can still become messed up - being older doesn't make them immune

Side: No
popcorn00(18) Disputed
1 point

I LOLd so hard when you said it doesn't dissensitize the user. Mature audience doesn't mean a sadistic audience. Crimes in games in general should be the aspect to debate in general. How can they possibly be sympathetic if they are associating rape with the thrill of winning aka fun?!

Side: No
1 point

I think most of us here are guys because if we are not, we wouldn't be talking this way. It's a greatly violating act. The victims of rape usually die a living death. Most victims prefer to die than undergo this fate as can be seen from the fact that a lot of rape victims commit suicide.

So it should be banned from video games because it is very different from murder.

Side: No
popcorn00(18) Disputed
1 point

And you dont think murder is bad enough?! As if people weren't already dissensitized they come up with stupider shit like rape. Thats disgusting first of all and evil very evil. Whats next? Cannabalism games? Child abuse? Torture games á la Hostile movie style?

Side: No
1 point

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Side: No
Elvira(3446) Disputed
1 point

Rape isn't a lesser crime. A few years ago a man was falsely accused of rape in the UK and was quoted as saying "I would rather stand accused of murder" (I can't remember enough about the case to get a source.)

Side: No
1 point

Why would normal society benefit from visualized images of people being abused. If we do this pedophilia video games would be very easy to argue for. Stupid argument.

Side: No
1 point

I agree with I don't know. It should be rated A. Adults only. Rape is sick and putting it in a video game rated M is just wrong. Some parents let their 12 year old kid buy M games with anything in it. Rape would just be wrong being shown to a 12 year old kid.

Side: I don't know
1 point

It's totally uneccesary. It would be innapropriate too. I certainly wouldn't want to walk into my boyfriend's room and see him playing a rape video game. That would just be wrong and totally embarrasing to him I would hope.

Side: No
1 point

Rape is against the law and is a felony to minors. By putting rape graphics in video games, people will become sexually aroused and it may lead to increased rape in real life. Besides, rape is inappropriate and harmful. Only pedos and violent people would want something harming in video games. Don't. It's wrong.

Side: No
1 point

That is disgusting. It is a serious issue that should not be seen as funny or amusing.

Side: No