Should rape be allowed in video games?
Rape has long been stigmatised in video games and when implemented has seen huge outcries from the general public - should it be allowed or is it a bad move to let it enter the industry?
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First and foremost please know that I do NOT support rape.
My main concern over this is why on Earth has rape been elevated to this level that is seemingly unacceptable in the gaming world? As far as I know, murder is a more heavily punished crime, yet we see murder all the time (large gaming titles have been based off killing others). Surely, since it is a 'lesser crime', rape should be allowed if murder is.
Rape does not always desensitize the users. Any gamer who will play such violent games would know something about all these acts and would be sympathetic to the victims of these crimes. As for kids being messed up, this does not arise because the games in which all these acts are included are usually for mature audience, not children. As for the sexual aspects in rape, it could be pointed out that murder, so as to look real, would have equally disturbing aspects which could mess up anyone just as worse.
It is allowed in the United States because it is protected under the First Amendment.
Teens do worse things in video games (like kill people), so I wouldn't even see the moral issue with rape... it is LESS morally wrong than murdering someone (well, I'm not one to make a moral judgement, so I'll just assume that most people's morals find it this way, but really... crap-shoot).
As well, I actually played one of these games called RapeLay. It's really a lot like those interactive flash-sex games on the internet... except it's rape and one of the girls is most likely underage.
Really... whatever. it's animated and I'm not one to care about these things. People make too big of a deal out of what people do in the fantasy world. Sure, I don't see the THRILL in rape specifically, but I can see how others would (maybe cause of my love for psychology or some bullshit).
I see this argument a lot. And with respect, i think it is an excuse. It is like saying that because the militrary is allowed to kill people in war, that citizens should be allowed to kill as well.
If i created a book on how to rape someone, then it should be allowed in children's elementrary school because they got books as well.
And the reason why i say "children" is important to my actual debate. I say allow rape in videogames that are for adults, not children. And when i mean by children, i mean by 13 years or younger. I believe that children who are young will percieve rape as a good thing. I think i played GTA San Andreas when i was 15 and never thought once of killing someone in real life.
Edit. What did i say? I mean children who are at least 16 or 17 years or younger. 13 is too young. Idiot me.
I don't think you understood my argument or if i understood how you disputed mine. :)
Yes those are different cases but when i meant "kill" i didn't mean self-defense kill or "paid" kill. I meant just "death." That if the army is allowed to kill in general, then im allowed to kill in general. Im allowed to kill anybody and how many i want. Actually, now i understood your argument. This example of mine was weak to none because like you said, those are different cases.
What about the example of children's books? If books are allowed in their school then the topic of sex must be allowed in their school. That is the same thing as saying that because murder is in a videogame, then rape should be there too.
I see how you think im changing the debate but that was part of my argument. I disputed the top voted person. However, hypocritically, i agree that rape should be allowed but not for young children. So age was part of my reasoning for allowing rape in videogames.
Edit. When you compare crime, rape and murder is two of the many branches from the "crime" tree. When you compare books, Imaginative and Sex are two of the many topics of the "book" tree. Now my children's book arguement makes more sense than ever. At times, my arguement made sense and didn't make sense. Now saying what i said above, it makes sense why "allowing rape in videogames because of murder" and "allowing sex topic books in children's school because they have other books" is the same.
Or is it not? please educate me.
I personally don't like rape nor support it. But i can see it as a art form in literature and painting. Dark art. Just saying.
it would make little sense to say that rape shouldn't be.
I agree that in my mind it would.
In an M rated game (AO rated games probably already have rape in them) I vote yes. Like many have said killing, murder, and torture are much worse crimes than rape and yet it is not censored one bit. I have played games where you see dismemberment, decapitation, disembowlment, impalement, pretty much anything you can think of when it comes to ending someones life. Yet, none of these gory actions are "fuzzed" out or censored yet you can't show a pair of breasts or genitals in an M rated game without it at least being black barred or fuzzed out. I'm not promoting rape (I personally know a close family member that has been raped) but I don't see what the big deal is with rape being in games.
The book that Christians love to call the word of their God has tons of rape in it.
20 So they instructed the Benjamites, saying, “Go and hide in the vineyards 21 and watch. When the young women of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, rush from the vineyards and each of you seize one of them to be your wife. Then return to the land of Benjamin. 22 When their fathers or brothers complain to us, we will say to them, ‘Do us the favor of helping them, because we did not get wives for them during the war. You will not be guilty of breaking your oath because you did not give your daughters to them.’”23 So that is what the Benjamites did. While the young women were dancing, each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife. Then they returned to their inheritance and rebuilt the towns and settled in them.
Murder and forced marriage
11 “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin. ” 12 They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.
Murder and Rape
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Murdering people is allowed in video games so I say go ahead and put a disclaimer to people. Like "Warning if you copy all the actions in this game in real life you will be going to jail for life or something like that.
It could be argued that, although rape is a lesser crime, it is much more personal. Also, on a psychological level, putting crimes into video games desensitizes the users - do we really want kids who joke about rape? I would also like to point out that rape would have to include sexual aspects in the game whilst murder does not; perhaps on that front rape should not be allowed as it could be seen as stimulating (and that is just messed up).
Just touching on the desensitizing part, it could be argued that the user may not feel sympathy as they may be in the shoes of the rapist; perhaps the victim could have been made to seem evil in some way or another and have been said to deserve it (a reason why spy games, in which a user has kills a target, are popular and the users don't go 'poor guy' after they kill them). Also, mature people can still become messed up - being older doesn't make them immune
I think most of us here are guys because if we are not, we wouldn't be talking this way. It's a greatly violating act. The victims of rape usually die a living death. Most victims prefer to die than undergo this fate as can be seen from the fact that a lot of rape victims commit suicide.
So it should be banned from video games because it is very different from murder.
Well, the military are paid by our government to go out and kill other members of the military (theoretically).
citizens are allowed to kill in self-defense (theoretically).
However, they are different cases.
Murder is a worse crime than rape (assuming this, of course).
Murder is allowed in video games.
If one believes that murder should be allowed in video games, it would make little sense to say that rape shouldn't be.
You are changing the argument to "should children be allowed to play video games with rape in it?"
I LOLd so hard when you said it doesn't dissensitize the user. Mature audience doesn't mean a sadistic audience. Crimes in games in general should be the aspect to debate in general. How can they possibly be sympathetic if they are associating rape with the thrill of winning aka fun?!
I agree with I don't know. It should be rated A. Adults only. Rape is sick and putting it in a video game rated M is just wrong. Some parents let their 12 year old kid buy M games with anything in it. Rape would just be wrong being shown to a 12 year old kid.
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Rape is against the law and is a felony to minors. By putting rape graphics in video games, people will become sexually aroused and it may lead to increased rape in real life. Besides, rape is inappropriate and harmful. Only pedos and violent people would want something harming in video games. Don't. It's wrong.