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Of course! No, never!
Debate Score:23
Arguments:20
Total Votes:24
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Should spelling and grammar be considered in judging a rebuttal/opening argument?

Of course!

Side Score: 7
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No, never!

Side Score: 16
1 point

If one cannot argue properly then one is not arguing at all.

Side: Of course!
1 point

I find it annoying when people try to argue intelligently, but their arguments are riddled with errors. First off, we all went through grade school and learned our grammar rules. Second off, a lot of web browsers have built-in spell check devices now! That's how I know if I misspell something, because a little red line goes under the word.

A few mistakes are understandable- we're only human. But if you write at a third grade level, that's how I'll treat you. I mean, if you're not a good writer, then whatever, I just mean if you write like a third grader would grammatically, then yeah... ;)

Side: Of course!
1 point

Usually yes.

Word == Tool

Vocabulary == Set of tools

Grammar == Skill with tool set

An expression on paper (or by mouth) is formed first in the mind and in the language that it will be exporting the structure in. If the mind is using a small vocabulary and isn't skillful in applying words, how can you trust the final structure? The people with no knowledge of tools or skills might also have no knowledge of structures.

Who would buy a house designed and built by a man with only the knowledge of screws and duct tape, but the artistic?

Side: Of course!
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

We do not think in a language. Languages, and the voice inside our heads, are expressions of our thoughts.

Also, a man may not know how to use a hammer or have one available and thus may still have a great building design. The model he built may thus be an inaccurate representation of his idea, and the blueprints you might find unreadable if your not an architect or if its in a different language or format then the blueprints your used to reading.

Side: No, never!
Bradf0rd(1431) Disputed
1 point

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Side: hURR dURR

Spelling and grammar should be considered so that liberals have something to pick at when they can't counter a logical argument. ;)

Side: Of course!
3 points

I'll judge you as a person based on your english skills, but I won't bring it up as part of my argument. People who nitpick the spelling in arguments instead of addressing the points have my permission to fuck entirely off.

Side: No, never!
1 point

If the argument/rebuttal made is a dammed good one, the wording of it shouldn't be the deciding factor in whether or not he/she deserves an upvote.

If the point is gotten across that is all that matters.

Side: No, never!

Seeing as how the majority of people on here - including Ama_Deviant, AndSoccer16, Lawnman, and many others - cannot write without making such errors, and that a great number of people - PungSviti, NVYN, and others - are not native English speakers, I believe that this sentiment of down-voting arguments based solely on a few linguistic errors is inappropriate.

Side: No, never!
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

I'm not aware of people downvoting based solely on grammar or spelling.

Side: No, never!

I think it's often overlooked that English is not everyone's first language.

Side: No, never!
1 point

Grammar and spelling and irrelevant to the debate, unless it's the debate topic. The only other exception is if the grammar or spelling is unintelligible.

Side: No, never!

No, because the responsibility of proper spelling and grammar falls on the shoulders of the debater even though the argument was great.

Side: No, never!
1 point

It is totally unfair to do that. Arguments should be based on how well you rebuttle, on your points, logic and reasoning. Many famous people are dylexic or bad in grammar. Loads of the best arguments I've read have had spelling mistakes! If you are judging an argument, you should judge what they are arguing. Content not grammar or spelling.

(Well, if the spelling and grammar is so bad it is impossible to read, you wouldn't mark it, would you?)

Side: No, never!
1 point

If you say Yes, then you could down mark people for using correct foreign grammar, but it was grammatically incorrect in English. A perfectly good argument would be marked poorly just because the debater is not English.

Side: No, never!
1 point

I do not think that it should be a factor, as it only leads to unproductive arguments about grammar instead of the topic at hand. However, not all people agree, so it is necessary to use proper grammar when arguing with some people.

Side: No but it is anyway
1 point

That happens all to often to me, one time on a tobacco debate the guy went to argue that synonyms weren't interchangeable...

Side: No, never!

Spelling and grammar do not equate to logic. I mean.... I know a lot of liberals that are really good at spelling and grammar ;)

Side: No, never!

It is attacking the messenger instead of attacking the debate. People should practice Internet Etiquette.

Side: No, never!