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Yes, it should be No, it should stay in place
Debate Score:50
Arguments:45
Total Votes:53
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Should the Death Penalty be completely outlawed in the United States

In The US there are currently 32 states with the death penalty and the average cost a a death penality case is 2.4 Million dollars.  The current number of people on death row is 3261 and there has only been 1226 excutions since 1976. It cost roughly 1 billion dollars per year to hose these inmates. Is all that money worth keeping the death Penality or should it be completly abolished.  

Yes, it should be

Side Score: 26
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No, it should stay in place

Side Score: 24

Yes, death penalty is not a qualified punishment for a crime.

I mean isn't the idea of punishment that you learn a lesson? You did something bad, you get punished and you learn that you will not do that again, right?

What would you rather choose - living in a dirty disgusting prison in Thailand for life, or just being killed.

My choice? Why live a whole life in a prison knowing that I will never get out? I would rather just die. So by killing the criminal you're just doing him a favor. Put him/her in a hard core prison where they can slowly rot to death, and after they die they can enter the real hell.

Side: Yes, it should be

I mean isn't the idea of punishment that you learn a lesson? You did something bad, you get punished and you learn that you will not do that again, right?

I agree with you, whats the point of being punished if you don't learn from it.

My choice? Why live a whole life in a prison knowing that I will never get out? I would rather just die. So by killing the criminal you're just doing him a favor. Put him/her in a hard core prison where they can slowly rot to death, and after they die they can enter the real hell.

I thought you were agnostic anyways that's exactly what I said :D I agree with you 100% :D

Side: Yes, it should be
shoutoutloud(4182) Clarified
2 points

Haha, yeah I am agnostic, but it was a little joke I made ;)

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Side: Yes, it should be
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
1 point

Yes, death penalty is not a qualified punishment for a crime.

I agree with you, but I don't think the Death Penalty is a punishment. I think it's a means of getting rid of criminals that can not be rehabilitated.

Put him/her in a hard core prison where they can slowly rot to death, and after they die they can enter the real hell.

So you choose torture over just ending a life?

Side: No, it should stay in place

So you choose torture over just ending a life?

When it comes to rapists, murderers, people who beat up their spouse or kids .. those kind of people I believe should get what they gave.

Side: No, it should stay in place
1 point

-getting rid or killing It?

-Ending a life is worser than torture yet there's nothing good from both.

Side: No, it should stay in place

I find the death penalty to be quite hypocritical. Not to mention that's a lot of money for it and finally what's the point of the death penalty when we can just send imitates to prison for life. Its a lot worse punishment then the death penalty.

Side: Yes, it should be
1 point

To Europeans this is an absolute no brainer. No one has the right to take away take away a European's right to life including the state (European Convention on Human Rights, Article 2 and Protocol 5). Its just an obviously immoral thing to do. I think the USA needs to civilise itself.

Side: Yes, it should be
Sitara(11101) Clarified
1 point

You people rock. .

Side: Yes, it should be
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
1 point

No one has the right to take away take away a European's right to life including the state (European Convention on Human Rights, Article 2 and Protocol 5). Its just an obviously immoral thing to do. I think the USA needs to civilise itself.

Yet, abortions are completely legal there.

Correct?

Side: Yes, it should be
animedude639(1578) Clarified
3 points

While I don't want to bring the subject of abortions since it has nothing to do with this debate, I sort of agree with you. Abortions are wrong but sometimes there not. It depends on who the mother is and the fetus. Abortions should only be a last resort.

Side: Yes, it should be
Cuaroc(8817) Clarified
2 points

geez Chuzzy take a break and quit bringing abortion into every debate.

Side: Yes, it should be
Atrag(5382) Disputed
1 point

As you are aware all nations make a distinction between the rights of a fetus and that of a born person. No where in the world, that I know of, has the exactly the same right to life for both born and unborn persons. The case law clearly excludes fetuses from the right to life

Side: No, it should stay in place
0 points

looks like Chuzzy the troll isn't one of those Pro-Life hypocrite

Side: Yes, it should be

I agree with you. Our country really needs to make it illegal

Side: Yes, it should be
1 point

Yes.Killing is only okay if life or civil liberties are at stake. .

Side: Yes, it should be
1 point

Yes I am completely against the death penalty. Their are much more cons then pros. In regards to the price thing, here is a little stat for ya. The death penalty cost Florida 15 billion dollars in one year, a few years ago.

Side: Yes, it should be
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
1 point

Here's a little information for you.

○$1.94 billion--Pre-Trial and Trial Costs

○$925 million--Automatic Appeals and State Habeas Corpus Petitions

○$775 million--Federal Habeas Corpus Appeals

○$1 billion--Costs of Incarceration

All of this information is the reason the Death penalty is so costly. Do you know what that tells me? That the process needs to cut out a few steps.

Side: No, it should stay in place
7thDebater(294) Disputed
1 point

you should know that price isn't the only reason that im against the death penalty.

Side: Yes, it should be
NicolasCage(506) Disputed
1 point

You can't just "cut out steps". That's essentially short cutting the law and opens up a whole new can of worms regarding fair trials.

Side: Yes, it should be

The Death Penalty is cruel and unusual punishment and it should be outlawed in the United States.

Side: Yes, it should be
5 points

No, they just need to speed up the process A LOT. They should be bangin out 100+ executions a day. Thus emptying prisons. .

Side: No, it should stay in place
2 points

Yes, and that would also make it a cheaper alternative to imprisonment.

The biggest argument (or maybe strongest) against the Death Penalty is that it's more costly than imprisonment, yet the reason it is at this moment, is because they are adding the cost of the injection, with the cost of the years of imprisonment, and the cost of extra lawyers, and extra investigations when all they really need to do is double check to make sure the person is supposed to be killed, then do it. If they are in prison they most likely did it, and imprisoning them for 50 years only to either kill them or release them won't really make a difference, they basically lost their life in waiting.

Side: No, it should stay in place
3 points

If someone came into a school, killed every man, woman, and child in the building, killed 3 police officers, and then was captured alive, who the FUCK would NOT want that person dead?

Side: No, it should stay in place
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
3 points

I might not want them dead.... but if they needed volunteers to throw the switch in that case? Sign me up!

Side: Yes, it should be
NicolasCage(506) Disputed
1 point

Making them spend the rest of their life in a grotty prison where they'll likely be beaten by other inmates is a much harsher punishment than a quick and relatively painless death.

Side: Yes, it should be