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30
Yes they should no they shouldnt
Debate Score:78
Arguments:40
Total Votes:95
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 Yes they should (24)
 
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Should the T.S.A. be allowed to look under clothing for dangerous items

Yes they should

Side Score: 48
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no they shouldnt

Side Score: 30
3 points

.According to a Gallup poll released in August, 54% of Americans think TSA is doing either an excellent or a good job of handling airport screening. Among Americans who have flown at least once in the past year, 57% have an excellent or good opinion of the agency. In other words, the more you see them, the better you like them.

Side: Yes they should
3 points

People are being

crossed over the border in luggage, associating the case of illegal immigrants and abuse.

For example few days ago on May 8, 2015 a 8 year old was attempted to be smuggled into the Spanish Border by a 21 year old Morccan lady, but when the police scanned the bag with an x-ray they found the 8year old boy in the suitcase.

Also many bones, and human/animal body parts are being illegaly smuggled into the country and TSA has helped assist us in these illegal practices.

A US man accused of smuggling 70 million year old dinosaur skeletons into the United States, including a toothy relative of the bigger Tyrannosaurus rex, was arrested on Wednesday in Florida, officials said.

Side: Yes they should
2 points

Should TSA be permitted to use advanced technology. yes they should. Every year 2,000 weapons are found with T.S.A screening in an airport. 111,961 kg of drugs found in the USA in 2014. People are being smuggled for example, an eight-year old boy, was being smuggled in a suitcase across the Spanish border. We have to prevent terrorist attacks by using T.S.A. screening since terrorist attacks have increased 61% in the year 2013 to 2014. The world is becoming a dangerous place. We need to take certain safety precautions, even if it might seem inconvenient.

Side: Yes they should
Signe(4) Disputed
2 points

How should the TSA be checking people and their luggage if some of the machines don't even work? Many TSA machines are not even working and can waste people's time at the airport making them miss their flight.

Side: no they shouldnt
llara(29) Disputed
1 point

Everything sometimes has their flaws, your phone, computers sometimes mighgt not be working and its not americas foult.

Side: Yes they should
Atrag(5666) Disputed
1 point

An normal xray scan of luggage would detect this. This occurs in every country I have ever visited. The USA is the only one I know of that does the full body scan.

attacks have increased 61% in the year 2013 to 2014.

How many terrorists attacks were committed on USA soil in 2013 and how many in 2014?

Side: no they shouldnt
2 points

Terrorist groups such as Islamic state, Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and Boko Haram were responsible of ⅔ of all such deaths, and to stop these terrorist groups from continuing to kill lives we need to incorporate new technologies to stop them.

Side: Yes they should
khamwi Disputed
1 point

What you have forgotten is that even with the TSA there are still a lot of drugs passing through countries and terrorist attacks still happening throughout the US. So even with the TSA they are not protecting a lot of people. The TSA are actually doing nothing, maybe they did stop a few people, but a lot of people are still going through the TSA with drugs.

Side: no they shouldnt
suhanad(9) Disputed
1 point

Does a "few people" really mean nothing to you? What if those few people were mafias of terriorists ready to bomb our plane in a blink of an eye. TSA are doing their best to prevent these illegal practices, and science is such that we are able to find our flaws and improve them, and this is what TSA is doing.

And also what proof of this do you have? Its simpily your opinion.

Side: Yes they should
llara(29) Disputed
1 point

The T.S.A machines are lssening the amount of drugs being smuggled and weapons they arent uselles. When stopping these few people is still a pro.

Side: Yes they should
2 points

Terrorist groups such as Islamic state, Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and Boko Haram were responsible of ⅔ of all such deaths, and to stop these terrorist groups from continuing to kill lives we need to incorporate new technologies to stop them. Fulfilling a requirement of the 9/11 Act, 100 percent of all cargo transported on passenger aircraft that depart U.S. airports is now screened commensurate with screening of passenger checked baggage and 100 percent of high risk cargo on international flights bound for the United States is screened.

Side: Yes they should
2 points

-Weapons and drugs are being hidden in various ways to be brought into the country and many are being seized in airports, TSA officers also find inert items that look very real. The problem with these types of items is that we don’t know if they are real, toys or replicas until we call out the explosive experts. Inert items can lead to disruption, closed terminals and checkpoints, which often result in canceled or delayed flights.

Side: Yes they should
yeajinkang(4) Disputed
1 point

The machine can conceal weapons like guns,knives, and explosives however the machine could not detect the drugs.

If drugs are hidden, how come the machines cannot find them? That indicates that the machines cannot find hidden materials in passengers luggage.

Side: no they shouldnt
1 point

America should be doing everything to secure our safety. T.S.A. is making sure that you are getting the safety you deserve.

Side: Yes they should
khamwi Disputed
1 point

If they are trying to protect the US how come terrorist attacks are still happening this shows that the TSA are not protecting the US

Side: no they shouldnt
suhanad(9) Disputed
1 point

Get some proof like this.

We want to share with you examples of the continued vigilance of TSA officers in protecting our nation’s transportation systems, including some of the most unusual items discovered at checkpoints.TSA had a busy year in 2014, screening more than 653 million passengers in 2014 (about 1.8 million per day), which is 14.8 million more passengers than last year.

2,212 firearms were discovered in carry-on bags at checkpoints across the country, averaging more than six firearms per day. Of those, 1,835 (83 percent) were loaded. Firearms were intercepted at a total of 224 airports; 19 more airports than last year.

There was a 22 percent increase in firearm discoveries from last year’s total of 1,813.

Supporting Evidence: TSA (blog.tsa.gov)
Side: Yes they should
1 point

Closing Sentence:

Nearly two-thirds of Americans support the new full-body security-screening machines at the country's airports, as most say they put higher priority on combating terrorism than protecting personal privacy. T.S.A. screening can save you life. . Go pro T.S.A. for a safer community and environment. Better safe than sorry.

Side: Yes they should
1 point

The U.S. Transportation Security.Administration has seized a record 2,000 firearms from carry-on luggage last year in December. These guns were spotted thanks to the screening process. For example A knife concealed within an ink pen was discovered at Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW).

Side: Yes they should
1 point

In the fight against terrorism all security measures, regardless of how intrusive they may be, are absolutely necessary. If you think body searches and scans are a nuisance, try getting blown to pieces 35,000 feet up in the air.

Side: Yes they should
1 point

By employing the extensive security measures, we have allowed many terrorists (such as OBL) to achieve their stated goal: To employ fear for the purpose of causing us to significantly change our society in a way that caused us to sacrifice liberty and expend significant amounts of money.

Considering how, statistically, the odds of being killed by a Islamic Terrorist are incredibly low (and I mean incredibly, seriously, unbelievably low), the measures being used to protect ourselves from them really are unwarranted.

Side: no they shouldnt
3 points

The passengers that are passing through the TSA machines are getting "pet down like a My Little Pony" and the passengers are getting extremely uncomfortable with the extreme pat-downs. The imaging technology are also an invasion of privacy, and the passengers are feeling naked and exposed while getting pat-downs.

Supporting Evidence: Privacy Argument (www.huffingtonpost.com)
Side: no they shouldnt
llara(29) Disputed
2 points

In response to overwhelming complaint from human rights organizations and individual passengers about the exposing images that each scan creates, manufacturers are adding Automated Target Recognition (ATR) software to their scanners. This software allows for greater privacy and efficiency. A generic outline of the human body (same for both males and females) appears on the computer screen. If the scanner detects an irregularity, it will mark the location on the image and the TSA agent can further investigate. If the scanner does not detect an irregularity, then the computer screen flashes a green screen with the word “OK” and the passenger is then free to pass. ATR eliminates the need for a second TSA agent to analyze images in a separate room.

Side: Yes they should
Signe(4) Disputed
2 points

The further investigations and pet-downs can be very uncomfortable for the passengers and they can feel exposed even if they are finding new ways passengers are still getting pet-downs, like before when they didn't have new technology, and they are getting extremely uncomfortable.

Side: no they shouldnt
Kalamazoo(333) Disputed
2 points

Ah shucks, the poor little passengers become all red faced and embarrassed whilst getting a ''pat down'' and a security screening. It would be much better to abandon the procedure and let the terrorists smuggle their explosives on board and blow the plane and all it's poor wee sensitive passengers to smithereens thus putting them out of their misery. Hey, empty head, get your priorities right and recognise the absolute necessity for the security measures which exist as a direct consequence of the Muslim terrorist threat. If you're for real, you need to get a reality check, never mind a security check.

Side: Yes they should
3 points

The TSA (Transportation Security Administration) have spent $14 million on 91 machines that don't even work. The machines showed near naked images of the passengers.The machines are held in a Texas warehouse. Now the Texas Warehouse hold $155 million of unused machines from the TSA. http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2012/11/15/tsa-bodyscanners/1706811/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-WQwyxTfSX4OLWRjCWQIH4g

Side: no they shouldnt
3 points

The 4th amendment states that "the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized". The citizens of the U.S state that the pat downs that the TSA are doing is going against their rights of 4th amendment. Allowing the TSA to use the advanced imaging technology would be taking away the rights of the people.

Supporting Evidence: Bill of Rights - 4th Amendment (billofrightsinstitute.org)
Side: no they shouldnt
selenaj(8) Disputed
2 points

Being in states and paying taxes says that we give up some of our rights to be safe, so the security violating the 4th amendment is just another one, you voted for the government and this is what the government has decided.

Side: Yes they should
suhanad(9) Disputed
2 points

With or without knowing it we are tracked down by the FBI and police anytime, and this isn't because the TSA simply like to "stalk" people, they are professionals who are simply doing their job of protecting us. God knows how many terrorists attacks would have occurred if thousands of weapons weren't seized in airports every year.

Side: Yes they should
2 points

People worry about getting cancer from unnecessary scanning machines.According to University of California at San Francisco doctors, the elderly, children, people with HIV or AIDs, and pregnant women could possibly be at a risk from this level of radiation. This is worried that this radiation could cause breast cancer for a fraction of the female population and is highly sensitive.

Supporting Evidence: Is the elevated safey worth the risks? (gleaner.rutgers.edu)
Side: no they shouldnt
llara(29) Disputed
3 points

From the ACR article: "An airline passenger flying cross-country is exposed to more radiation from the flight than from screening by one of these devices. The National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurement (NCRP) has reported that a traveler would need to experience 100 backscatter scans per year to reach what they classify as a Negligible Individual Dose. The American College of Radiology (ACR) agrees with this conclusion. By these measurements, a traveler would require more than 1,000 such scans in a year to reach the effective dose equal to one standard chest x-ray."

Side: Yes they should
llara(29) Disputed
3 points

We also asked the Johns Hopkins University of Applied Physics Laboratory to perform an independent radiation safety engineering assessment of our Advanced Imaging Backscatter Technology and they determined that the radiation dose to scanned individuals from this general use system is within the requirements of ANSI N43.17 2002 and 2009.

Side: Yes they should
suhanad(9) Disputed
2 points

-Also wouldn’t it be worse to die from a terrorist attack than to have a minimal chance to contract cancer from a an airport security scanner? And if passengers do prefer a pat down they can do so, no body is forcing them. Everyone in life has a choice...

Side: Yes they should
2 points

The TSA employees are targeting non-American citizens and African Americans. For example, non-American citizens and African Americans are getting checked more carefully and more intense by the TSA employees. The TSA is even checking the hair of non-American citizens and African Americans.

Supporting Evidence: Hair Pat-Downs (www.theguardian.com)
Side: no they shouldnt
llara(29) Disputed
1 point

According to the Transportation Security Administration, less than 3 percent of travelers receive the pat-downs.

But Napolitano said the TSA would "listen to concerns. Of course we will make adjustments or changes when called upon, but not changes or adjustments that will affect the basic operational capability that we need to have to make sure that air travel remains safe."

One possibility that could generate public support is the use of profiling at airports, where the TSA would single out specific passengers for extra screening based on available information. Overall, 70 percent of Americans back the idea, which has been floated as an alternative.

Side: Yes they should
2 points

It is a discrimination. The TSA letting regular average americans pass by without a pat down but when a african american or an arabs passes by they make sure to pat him down and sometimes takes their fingerprints

Side: no they shouldnt
suhanad(9) Clarified
1 point

Well, what proof do you have of this? And it's their problem they are simply hiring the wrong people.

Side: Yes they should
khamwi Disputed
1 point

Why would they hire people who can't do their job, that is the TSA fault. If they want maximum security they should be hiring the correct people.

Side: Yes they should
1 point

Should the TSA be permitted to use ‘advanced imaging technology’ to peer under passengers’ clothing in search of dangerous items? TSA (Transportation Security Administration) is a system that screens passengers for metallic and nonmetallic threats including weapons, explosives and other objections concealed under layers of clothing without physical contact. We oppose to use the advanced imaging technology for many reasons. First, this goes against the 4th amendment because it states that you cannot search someone without having a reason, and if the TSA searches you without having a reason then it is against the fourth amendment. Secondly, the TSA is wasting money on useless machine. The last argument, it is a invasion of privacy. With this three reasons, we argue that the TSA should not be permitted to use advanced imaging technology.

Side: no they shouldnt
1 point

These arguments show that the TSA are spending money on useless items, that they are going against the 4th amendment, that they are not protecting the passengers or the countries, and that they are very racist. So that's why the TSA should not be allowed to search under passengers clothing for dangerous items.

Side: no they shouldnt