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yes i think it should because, if they put someone in jail for murder and the release then soon after they could just do the same again. that why they should
What if they receive a life sentence instead? This means they would live the rest of their life in jail, not enjoying life. Isn't that punishment enough? This would prevent them from being released to commit the crime again, and still giving them the punishment of life in jail.
yes i agree it should be life in prison they cant get out if killing is what they did why would you kill for killing? if you kill doesn't that make you a murder too?
People that commit severe crimes are normally not allowed to be around other inmates. This means that they can not harm anyone in the jail, or themselves.
While I see your point, many murderers are given life sentences yet somehow got released later on and began killing people again...check this out for reference: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2421724/Revealed-The-murderers-given-life-jail-freed-kill-again.html
News flash. People escape from prison. It's happened before, and it will happen again. Also, the majority of violent crime is the result of repeat offenders. How would feel if someone was released from prison, then killed someone you loved? Bet you'd be singing a different tune then.
the death penalty inherently violates the constitutional ban against cruel and unusual punishment and the guarantees of due process of law and of equal protection under the law.
But these people that committed a crime caused pain. Wouldn't it be fair for them to receive punishment that fits their crime? Otherwise, we are paying millions of dollars every year to pay for people in jail to have food, water, clothing, television, and other things that they do not deserve if they have committed a horrible crime, such as murder.
Exactly, how would the victims' families feel about the murderer of their loved ones walking about alive and being fed with their own money? It is just so unfair! I know people say that two wrongs don't make a right, but still...I believe that they are let off too lightly with just prison time
It wouldn't be ok for someone who is a murder was set free, and has not learn nothing. Yes killing can cause pain and sadness, but stopping it can end your problems
Yes!Like the bombing in Boston was a serious crime and Dzhokar Tsarnaev had to pay the time and was sent to a death penalty,because he bombed the Boston Marathon
no it would make every thing worst for there family if you died for something bad butt could still live don't need to died one killed you for something
the punishment of execution, administered to someone legally convicted of a capital crime.
Every year, 1,000,000 and more people die a year because of crimes, and most people don't get the justice they deserve. only 20 people just last year got death penalty. The things that are wanted for death penalty are espionage, treason, and death resulting from aircraft hijacking. However, they mostly consist of various forms of murder such as murder committed during a drug-related drive-by shooting, murder during a kidnapping, murder for hire, and genocide. I believe the government should not let most criminals get away with these crimes, and instead use the death penalty for them. If the people got out of jail who commits these crimes, they might do it again.
death penalty in the USA is a legal penalty and you pay 1.26 million for the person that is going to get a death penalty and case with out death penalty cost 740,000.maintaining each of death row prisoner taxpayers more than 90,000 per year. so yes if you want to take someone down
yes because they did some thing really bad for them to deserve the death penalty also used for specific crime such as murder/ murder means when you kill another person by another
Yes i think we should have to death penalty cause if one of the criminal gets out of jail they could murder someone again and families have been haunted cause of that
I always get a laugh at the Left wing phonies who have crocodile tears for mass murderers on death row, while they support No Restriction abortions for ALL innocent babies up to birth.
You can not make this stuff up! How can Liberals live in such hypocritical denial of what they support?
I understand that you care for the children but let me dispute you that there's no humane version of death penalty, killing can only be 'less' or 'more' cruel yet it is always cruel. There's nothing humane when we let an imperfect person cries out without having mercy, there's nothing humane with a killer who can't forgive and shout nothing but vengeance. There's nothing humane with that.
I understand that you think victim need justice but do you also think killing gives justice? Repaying a crime using violence won't solve the problem rightly and also killing will never be humane. The intention of death penalty is humane but not the procedure.
If not for any medical conditions and if not as an act of self defense, Any crime that directly or indirectly kills people should be given the punishment of death penalty imo..
Why would you rather choose punishment rather than solving the problem? this two are different. You cannot produce any good result on punishment
It's from a perspective of morality, that I'm talking about. Punishment, as death penalty in this case, is a very certain solution to the problem of "specific crimes" as mentioned.
Nah, just like spanking kids, kids won't learn anything from it , they will only fear their parents but learn no morality. you see, even imprisonment won't teach inmates lesson, they will only fear the policemen but will not change from what they've done.
Nah, just like spanking kids, kids won't learn anything from it , they will only fear their parents but learn no morality. you see, even imprisonment won't teach inmates lesson, they will only fear the policemen but will not change from what they've done.
The ones who committed "specific crimes "(I made it clear of what I'm referring to in the first argument, read it, looks like you haven't) as that I've mentioned wouldn't be alive to fear or commit further crimes. Note we are talking about criminals and not potential criminals here. There is no way to teach morality, it's formed by the social environment around you.
dang mate, we don't understand each other. what, teaching is the way to be the environment of the criminals men. and bro, if we can't teach morality, why can we teach lesson to a f*cking stubborn kids.
look man if you did a mistake, would you like to be killed for it? dang men answer this honestly
Look man, you're looking at the issue from an emotional stance. You're putting yourself in the shoes of either the criminal or a victim and then coming to a conclusion of "what you'd probably like/what anyone would probably like." The thing is, it's either fear or compassion driving you to make that statement that if maybe you do end up in a situation like that, what would you like. See beyond emotions.
To answer your question, do I like it? no. Is it fair? yes.
Death penalty for all crimes? hell no.
Death penalty for crimes that have taken lives? yes.
Fair in what terms? In death? I refuse to allow more deaths to occure. Where's that Moral lesson that you learned when you were a kid? Elders told you to value life of human, if you don't do so. You're judged as immoral. If you kill my mother, you become guilty. If I kill you, will that end your guilt? No, you'll just die, nothing happens, no one learns nor is there any wrong corrected. Your delusion of justice is not fair in terms of peace. It's only fair in terms of death.
Fair in what terms? In death? I refuse to allow more deaths to occure. Where's that Moral lesson that you learned when you were a kid? Elders told you to value life of human, if you don't do so. You're judged as immoral. If you kill my mother, you become guilty. If I kill you, will that end your guilt? No, you'll just die, nothing happens, no one learns nor is there any wrong corrected. Your delusion of justice is not fair in terms of peace. It's only fair in terms of death.
What is moral to you need not be for another. Morality depends on what you've been taught as a kid by your parents. More specifically, it depends on the environment you grew up as a kid. The only thing then that would make sense is to have justice which doesn't depend on morality. In which case a quantitative standpoint like that of what I stand for, would be the best solution.
Justice that doesn't depend on morality? Morality is the only basis of what is right. Without morality we cannot provide justice instead it makes what's worse more worser. Also without morality we lose our dignity and respect to ourselves, look at the poor prostitutes who trade themselves for money. They also think it is the best to have sex with foreigners just to give their family something to eat. Same to those executors who kill just to provide safety for the citizen. Tell me , If a person has a benevolent intention but makes a cruel action can it be qualified as good ?
Justice that doesn't depend on morality? Morality is the only basis of what is right. Without morality we cannot provide justice instead it makes what's worse more worser. Also without morality we lose our dignity and respect to ourselves, look at the poor prostitutes who trade themselves for money. They also think it is the best to have sex with foreigners just to give their family something to eat. Same to those executors who kill just to provide safety for the citizen. Tell me , If a person has a benevolent intention but makes a cruel action can it be qualified as good ?
You just seem to support my point.. the question you asked in the end makes it clear why "justice" should be morality free. Morality leads to dilemmas that can't be explained to have a common solution, some people would classify your question to be among good acts, while many would do the opposite. One thing we can all agree upon is logic, hence a quantitative decision is the best fit for the situation.
We dedicate quite a bit of brain space to moral reasoning. .
Well, we wouldn't be debating on this topic if we weren't. But that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the final decision made in a case(like this) where morality among people leads to conflicting opinions.
Yes, the death penalty should be used as a punishment for malicious murderers, as they should be paid back with what they deserve and for the safety of our society. For example, a criminal who has murdered multiple people deserves a death penalty, as he/she has destroyed the person's life and ultimately the people close to them (friends, family, etc.). In many cases, criminals have been released from jail, only to repeat the same crime and cause more damage.
A man was sentenced to hang for stealing a horse. He told the judge it wasn't fair to be hanged for stealing a horse. The judge told him he wasn't being hanged for stealing a horse. He was being hanged so horses won't be stolen.
The death penalty in the United States is used almost exclusively for the crime of murder. Although state and federal statutes contain various capital crimes other than those involving the death of the victim, only two people were on death row for a non-murder offense (Patrick Kennedy and Richard Davis in Louisiana) when the U.S. Supreme Court addressed this issue in 2008
than what if the innocent was actually the murder, and had just lied to u in ur face just to get out of a situation, we should always be careful on what u guys think
people who take another persons life should face their consequences even if that means sentenced to death 100,000 thousand people tie from other people killing them
Then will make them understand. Do you know why restorative justice is settled at Norway? Because they are a civilized country had know that using violence doesn't make inmate repent and has understood that the person who does felony only had mental issues. You see, even tough they don't use capital punishment they have low crime rate
no because no one should be killed even if they killed someone else its unfair to handle the business of nature no one has the right to take any one other than their self's life it should just be handled appropriately by just sentencing them. the reason i say this is because the judge is punishing him for killing but yet they kill the person who did it and it makes no sense because their's 2 life's taken so they should be sentenced to death if they kill people cause it does no justice
Oh come on bro you could have posted on the other side to add on our total points ,inshort this is a nice argument. The criminal and the government are not different in their ways
Consider the money we use to house and feed inmates every year
Believe it or not, the cost of executing an inmate is often more than the cost of keeping them alive. Most of this cost goes into extensive legal processes, which can and often do drag on for decades.
Consider the crimes committed
Regardless of the crime, regardless of whether or not I personally lose sleep at night because we execute someone who is the lowest of criminals, their previous crimes do not justify our own bloodlust. I do not begrudge an individual to seek revenge; the state should not have that kind of authority.
Consider that tax money is being used from citizens to care for inmates
Covered in the first paragraph.
Consider alternate methods to the death penalty- are there better ways to handle crimes other than the death penalty?
Yes, absolutely. Let them rot in prison until they die of old age, let their years waste away while being stuck in a box. If I were in that situation, and knew I would be for the rest of my life, I'd probably want to die anyway.
How many people are being punished with death penalty?
If the Death Penalty Information Center is to be trusted, most executions are performed by China. The numbers of their executions are considered a state secret, however, it is known to be in the thousands for last year. Trailing China for total number of executions, the list goes: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt, Somalia, and the United States. I dare you to find me a ranking of any kind that places us in league with those countries in a positive light.
How severe does a crime need to be to give someone the death penalty?
It should be obvious by now that I do not think we should be practicing the death penalty, not when we have legal alternative of life in prison.
However, all of this said, If we are to keep the death penalty, it requires reform. Our practice, while reprehensible, is made all the more despicable by the fact that we take great pains to pretend it isn't a problem. We perform executions in intentionally out-of-the-way locations. We do them at one in the morning. We mix up experimental cocktails and pump them intravenously- giving the appearance of going out peacefully, though often, it is clear we are torturing the accused to death. This all must change. We, as a society, need to face the worst side of ourselves. We need to bring back public executions, even televise them. We need to focus on not making an execution look pretty, but make the execution quick- I wholeheartedly recommend taking a hint from North Korea, and lining up the accused in front of 14.7mm antiaircraft machine guns with a rate of fire of 600 rounds per minute. Such a machine will make a human being more vapor than solid in the blink of an eye, but you certainly don't have to worry about them suffering.
Maybe, after all of this, we can look at ourselves and honestly ask how civilized we really are.
people this is nothing to play around with its not just a pick a side game this is serious people are dying and know one cares half of you pick a side and have no evidence to back your reasoning up
In my point of view, yes, everyone makes mistakes, but some mistakes like murder should not be forgiven. It seems quite cruel even as I'm typing but I really believe that some people just should not be allowed to live. I can't remember the name of the murderer. but there's this guy who was charged with murder and received a life sentence in 1982 or so. Somehow, he was released in 2010. He then proceed to stab two people just after his releases and was caught by the police. He later explained to the police "I felt an urge to kill". I feel like people like this guy get off too lightly with life sentences. I am not saying the conditions in prisons aren't harsh, but still he was fed and have a place to live in. Prison time should be reserved for those who can be reformed. These people clearly can't be reformed if they kill as they please and should receive death penalty, it is a fitting punishment for them to go through the same things their victims did. I also think that while this won't make it easier for the victims' families, it would at least make them feel that their loved ones' deaths were avenged.
The capital offenses include espionage, treason, and death resulting from aircraft hijacking. However, they mostly consist of various forms of murder such as murder committed during a drug-related drive-by shooting, murder during a kidnapping, murder for hire, and genocide.some people are crazy they should die too.
no even if you did do bad the punishment is not going to be right. your just making your self like them. killing is bad even if they did do something bad your killing because they killed someone
er...so I am taking that you support death penalty? Cause the little button below your comment shows that you are against death penalty, just thought I'd let you know
I truly think that people should be killed for killings that have made,But still to make theses penalty's the government is the people's tax money when there tax money could be used for feeding there family's and taking care of themselves
I see and respect you for your point but we are paying for the criminals' food, water etc with our taxes now so don't you think if we have to pay money anyways it should be for a better cause? Because I really believe that criminals like serial killers should not be let off with only life sentences where they still get their bare necessities
no,way that its good to kill for killing its hurtful to the family of that person espcially the mom she does not want to see her baby die for no reason
you should not kill a person because it is scary to see one of the person that you love goes away just because he did some thing bad they should at least send them to jail but dont kill them cause that is just cruel to do to some one
But don't you think that some criminals deserve death penalties? Serial killers for example, they caused so many to suffer so don't they deserve to suffer too? I mean, from the victims' families point of view, their loved ones were killed yet the murderer still lives and is fed with their money(the tax they paid included paying for the criminals' expenses). Isn't it too unfair to them?
Excuse me for interfering. Yes, maybe they deserve death penalty but no one has the right to be a killer. Can anything be fair if we continue killing one another? It's just right to provide for the citizen-inmate, they also need mental support not violence.
No. We cannot ever be 100�rtain we have the right people on death row. We have and will continue to execute innocents by mistake. Following that logic the state is a murderer and would have to be put to death for its own crimes.
There is no evidence that it is any more of a deterrent to crime than life imprisonment. Which means its unnecessary. Which means its "unusual". Thus putting it under the purview of the 8th amendment protection from cruel and unusual punishment.
Whether you buy the argument that its unconstitutional or not its just not a good policy to have.
their is no reason to kill any one it solves no problem and it just makes someones mom,dad,sister,brother and who ever else cared for him sad and it makes them have to go through bad times
I agree! The person that committed the crime caused harm to other people's family, so it would be the criminals fault for getting the death penalty and making their family sad.
It's not the suspect's fault why they're killed. It's because of the executioner who takes vengeance. We're just too dumb to find another solution besides violence for detterence and justice.
Also the Government is using the people's money to do the Death penalty,So if anyone has a low paying job and they are struggling,How are they gonna eat at night if the Government is taking there money to end's someone life
ts just flat out wrong,wrong that people can bear to know that they are the reason that someones husband,baby brother died because they think that the punishment for killing should be killing what doe4s that fix,nothing
If people know that the death penalty is a punishment, then maybe they shouldnt have committed the crime. If they comit a crime, knowing that it will result in their death, then they might deserve the death penalty- you could say that they chose that ending.
The crimes you do to get death penalty are brutal, and mostly murder. since the government has put the death penalty this way, there will be equal consequences from what the people have done.
Nah, the consequences are not equal, not all killers are being killed (including the government)death penalty rather produce equal brutality. We can't lessen injustice if all of us became the suspect. Death penalty just advances unforgiveness, hatred, unempathic , merciless and violent society. You maybe just thinking that its right because you taste the pleasure of being protected while others are being killed.
