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Yes! It's fair that way! No! They can afford it!
Debate Score:20
Arguments:21
Total Votes:23
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 Yes! It's fair that way! (12)
 
 No! They can afford it! (7)

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Should the elderly receive free bus rides?

Yes- They are people too and they deserve seats in the front and be allowed on for free. Would you say no because you are ederly and you feel offended that people are all willing to give you things for free and that's unfair.

 

No!- They are porbably retired! they can afford it!

 

What do you think?

Yes! It's fair that way!

Side Score: 12
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No! They can afford it!

Side Score: 8
1 point

It makes sense. Buses are usually only at full capacity during rush hour. If you make the senior citizens bus pass for off peak hours the only cost is the production of the bus passes - the bus companies lose nothing. What is the argument against?

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
1 point

I agree. There is a bus system for Manatee County (It's in Florida) And people over 70 get free bus rides with an I.D. The bus fee is only about roughly $2.00 maybe $2.50. And they're only losing so much. Children under 3 can ride for free and veterans and children get a discount. So do the disabled. Children's fee is $1.00-$1.50 And if I'm correct it's the same for veterans and disabled people. It's pretty fair in my opinion.

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
1 point

With the culture in America and an increasing elderly population, supporting the elderly is a difficult task. In America it is not in our culture to care for our parent, grandparents etc, when they reach old age. That is why we have an incredible amount of nursing homes, senior living centers etc. That being said, who's responsibility is it?

The majority of senior citizens are not collecting a retirement, and many that are collecting retirement are not making enough to support a living wage. Is it really that big of a deal if they get a free pass on public transportation? What about those that do not have family support, which is rather common?

For those who are not collecting retirement, they are collecting social security alone. What are they supposed to do with $744/month? Many may still be paying a mortgage and have other bills like the rest of us.

It is our duty to help our elders and not throw them away and treat them like peasants.

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
1 point

Yes, of course, the elderly aren't working anymore and it's hard for them to earn money. Free bus rides should be a thing in the US for the elderly.

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
1 point

I personally support the idea .

Most of the elderly has lost their source of income , and solely dependant on their pensions or personal savings . A meagre amount of bus fares , means alot to them .

Free bus rides , may appear to be another means of gratefulness of the societies towards them , for their thus long contributions .

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
1 point

its fair because you might see an elderly walking and then the next thing you know they fall and they get hurt :(

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!

I don't think the elderly should have free bus rides but a nice alternative would be for a discount.

Side: No! They can afford it!
1 point

I don't believe in automatically giving anything to a whole public group just because someone falls within the parameters of it. There are elderly who could buy and sell the actual bus they're riding so why should they get the same free ride as someone who is poor? And once something is viewed as an entitlement you can't change or cut it back and the users often start taking it for granted and abusing it.

Side: No! They can afford it!
1 point

There are elderly who could buy and sell the actual bus they're riding so why should they get the same free ride as someone who is poor?

There are elderly bus insurers and bus deposit managers who could charge and loan the actual bus they're riding so why should they get the same free ride as someone who is poor?

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
1 point

Would it really be fair to anybody if anybody elderly gets a free ride? No not at all they are no differant than any of us we are all people that can make money, get jobs and be able to pay for a ticket for a bus ride.

Side: No! They can afford it!
1 point

Its like saying they need more attention because they are elderly but we need everything for everybody to be fair.

Side: No! They can afford it!
1 point

You are mistaking "purely equal" with "fair".

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
1 point

Actually they aren't. The elderly are less able to work, rely upon retirement savings, and tend to have higher medical costs.

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
-1 points

No, the families of elderly should pay for their bus rides if the elderly has no money. Its truly sick what the Democrat party has done to take the responsibility of family, to take care of it's own, to yet one more wasteful Government program handing out free stuff on the backs of the middle class.

We are going bankrupt with a corrupt bunch of Politicians redistributing our hard earned money all for purposes of getting their vote. REPREHENSIBLE!

Now please do what every Left wing person does by spewing the laughable excuse of how not all old people have families to help. The laws never make that distinction! They will create many more Government jobs paid for by the tax payers to hand out freebies to all. WAKE UP!

Side: No! They can afford it!
2 points

You know, I agree entirely. I think that if they really do not have the money, then their family should help out. Or, hey, anyone for that matter. If someone needs help, I, for one, am going to step up and help them. Though, I wouldn't be against a discount for the elderly.

Side: No! They can afford it!
Atrag(5211) Clarified
2 points

Riiiiiggghhhht.. And if they don't have family then fuck them? God I'm glad people like you will never ever get into power.

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
Cuaroc(8338) Clarified
1 point

do tell where in this debate mentions anything to do with democrats?

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
FromWithin(5476) Disputed
1 point

What planet do you live on? Everyone with any type of intellect knows that Democrats constantly pander to people for their vote by redistributing money from middle class tax payers.

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
FromWithin(5476) Disputed
1 point

What planet do you live on? Everyone with any type of intellect knows that Democrats constantly pander to people for their vote by redistributing money from middle class tax payers.

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!
1 point

You will make anything pathetically partisan, won't you?

Just anything at all. EVERYTHING is "us vs them".

Side: Yes! It's fair that way!