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Yes the porn age should be 16 NO! the porn age should be 18
Debate Score:76
Arguments:44
Total Votes:97
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 Yes the porn age should be 16 (25)
 
 NO! the porn age should be 18 (19)

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Should the porn age be lowered to 16?

Right now in order for someone to work in porn they must be 18 or older or it is considered "child pornography" & is EXTREMELY illegal. But I think the porn age should at least be lowered to 16 or 17. At the age of 16 you are old enough to drive a car & get a job & its only 2 years away from being 18. In Denmark the porn age is 16. So why can't we have that here?

Also if you don't like to look at 16 year old girls naked then DONT LOOK AT IT! Problem solved.

Yes the porn age should be 16

Side Score: 38
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NO! the porn age should be 18

Side Score: 38
4 points

The legal age for consensual sex in the UK is 16.

Assuming a porn actor consents to having sex - then I see no problem with it. They are acting within the 'laws for consent'.

(I should add that I'm not into that kind of thing - but just adding my view here.)

5 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16

Wow, I didn't know it was that young! So there's no problem with porn stuff at 16 either.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
xander(431) Disputed
1 point

Just because it's legal for a girl to have sex doesn't mean that they'll think through being paid large sums of money to be filmed having sex! It's a really easy way to make sure you have no credibility later in life, and I think it's about a half a step away from prostitution (which, by the way, i think should be legal- just not for underage people). It's a bad idea.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
1 point

The porn age ought to be equivalent to the age of puberty. After all, after that age, that female might be sexually active.

Or perhaps not set to a specific date, but literally after puberty.

Of course, the parent's permission would be required, as they are still a minor, in most countries.

3 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
1 point

well im 16 and its not like were children anymore you know were practically considered adults in the uk

and like its been said if you dont wanna watch it then dont

besides we can have sex legally in the uk and we cant make porn (i dont mean that in the weird way)

4 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16

Did you know in Denmark the porn age is 16?

Well I don't see why that can't be here.

I just noticed that 1 reason child porn is illegal is because you have to be 18 to view porn.

But you have to be 17 to watch R rated movies which have nudity so why can't they at least lower it to 17?

4 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
1 point

I want to qualify this point. There is a fundamental difference between softcore erotica and hardcore pornography. If a daughter of mine wanted to be photographed in a tasteful nude I would have no problem with that. After all, our museums and art galleries are full of naked representations of the human body. An aesthetic nude can raise the self-esteem of a girl. It is a statement of her own sexuality and confidence in her physical attractiveness. But pornography is different. Pornography is not based on any aesthetic. It removes the personality to an animal level and ultimately degrades the individual. True, that a girl of sixteen can marry and have sex, but that is in a consensual relationship based on (we hope) love (albeit romantic love), not an exploitative one (ie. for money). A sixteen year old girl is psychologically fragile and the porn industry is so merciless it would crush the life out of her. Ever wondered why the faces of porn models are so hard? Because it's a hard business and the average person has no idea what it is really like. A pornstar makes a career choice to enter the industry; it is not an idealistic decision. So my argument is that the decision is ultimately an aesthetic one. Softcore erotic photography should be allowed at 16 but hardcore potnography should definitely not.

3 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
jofcompsci(3) Disputed
1 point

What about girls under 18 who photograph themselves. That falls more inline with the aesthetic nude you were talking about. What if it were legal to make and view pornography of under 18 but not to pay the girl. See, what your really worried about is underage prostitution seance porn is just a form of prostitution. I agree under age prostitution should remain illegal but if a girl wants to show herself off over the internet why not?

2 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
casper3912(1553) Disputed
1 point

Most Teens are under the legal authority of someone in till they are 18, and lack means to truly become independent till that same age. A girl might not be paid for her naked body, but a step dad would be under what your proposing.

Also, Many teens are easily caught in the moment; The happenings during one month is literally such a large part of their experience that they seems more important then they are. This disproportionality may lead to pursuits which are harmful in the long or even short run. Teens are manipulable, and give great weight to social forces in their lives. In till societal forces change, so the manipulable quality of teens is practically not existent; it would be best if situations with a high likely hood of being coercive be restricted.

2 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
1 point

i support this side because if two people were having sex in-front of a 16 year old and they were watching, that is illegal, even though it is legal for 16 year olds to have sex anyway. It just doesnt make sense.

3 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16

Supressing adolescent sexuality is detrimental to their health. We should encourage a healthy view on sexuality and intimacy. Treating porn with such disdain and shame only makes people more prone to develope unhealthy views on sexuality and maybe even inhealthy sexual behavior. The reality is that by the time you are 16 you are a sexual being. If porn wasn't treated like something "forbidden" then sexuality wouldn't be either.

3 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
1 point

Porn is not something everyone can do. One has to be born and bred in such an environment where sex is not something unusual or strange - it is either an accepted way of life or it is an ongoing business. It is easily assumed that prostitutes do not have children, they do have children and they get their kids into this business.

Porn is something they get into to make some extra money. It is generally assumed that completely innocent people are forced into it. Why would anyone want to take such a big risk? Get arrested for kidnapping and rape, when there are brothels who have people who know what they are required to do.

2 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
1 point

in netharland, the legal age to play in a porn movie was 16 years until 2002 (or 1998, I don't know exactly !) and I do not think the Dutch who watched these films were killers or child rapists! To justify a ban or to increase the legal age, we take as an example a psychopath or a drama to scares everyone and cause public emotion !

due to confusion between child, teen and underage in people's minds, the ephebophile becomes a pedophile (thanks to moral order) ....... who can oppose to the moral without being banished from society? ..... If we were Muslims, the mere act of watching a porno would be a crime and could be stoned by his own friends....Moral order always wins !.....For me 16 is the limit but I accept 18 because the laws don't leave me any choice !

2 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
0 points

lol....what year were they born?......Becouse contorling the insanity factor of self pleasuring is a entirely difrent but relevent factor....it whould in my opinion decrease teen pregnacy and be a forfront in lower the legal age of adult hood....Ie more taxes? IE: Better School IE: Free College?...IE: Reality.

4 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
4 points

In many states it's not even legal to have sex at sixteen, much less create porn. Porn is frequently disrrespectful to women with violent overtones; adding even younger girls to this disreputable industry is pretty much disgusting. It's not a job scooping ice cream or bagging groceries; it is a job that involves selling your body. Not prostitution, but close enough. Being involved in the porn industry would also severely damage one's ability to get into college, or get a job- and who needs to destroy their future at sixteen? If anything the age needed to produce porn should be twenty-one, because of it's impact on one's future. At sixteen it's easy to make mistakes, and making porn would be easy money. However, the impact producing porn upon the lives of the "actors", (especially if they are particularly naive or in a particularly violent film) could be vast.

This being said, having a topless picture of your sixteen year old girlfriend shouldn't be punished as child porn- there's a difference between teens being stupid for "love' and teens being stupid very publicly for pay.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
1 point

How is a 16 year old girl taking off her clothes disgusting?

Also if a college refuses to let her in because she worked in porn then that is back ground discrimination.

But I agree with you about the last paragraph.

5 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
xander(431) Disputed
3 points

No, actually, I'm very pro-sex. However, one can be for sex between couples as teens, and accept that it will happen whether you approve of it or not, and not be okay with someone being paid for sex as a youth. No one should be forced into sex by monetary needs, and because most sixteen-year-olds still live with their parents, they might be pressured into porn for reasons that are not their own, or for stupid teenage reasons- like proving a point to friends or caring parents. Note story on teenage prostitution:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/22/eveningnews/main5181151.shtml

Clearly Prostitution and porn aren't exactly the same thing, but they both involve selling ones' body for sexual reasons. (Prostitution should be legalized to control, before anyone says anything about that). And I think that this is a slippery slope- someone shoots a video with a fake ID two weeks before they turn sixteen.. then maybe a month or two... or maybe the industry starts cherrypicking for very young looking girls, the girls who still look like children. What if these girls get put into violent pornography? What if you start seeing a lot of girls with father figures, or siugnificantly older men? Or, conversely, what if you seen a whole bunch of teenagers getting implants so that they appear to be older?

How will their participation in porn affect their view of their sexuality, and their role in sex? Most people at sixteen don't have a plethora of sexual experience, and the first few partners someone has seriously affects how they look at sex for their whole lives. Do we want a generation of women raised as objects? Ehhh.....

A college is also practicing background discrimination if they don't let you in for a disciplinary or criminal background; they can reject you for character reasons, and they can reject you just for the hell of it. How do you prove that it's only for the porn, and how do you make that wrong? I'm sure a lot of parents don't want their children going to school with porn stars.

When it gets down to it, a sixteen year old girl taking off her clothes in private is one thing; maybe not the best thing, but it's in private, and teens can be taught how to put on condoms and use birth control. However, speaking as a teen, we cannot be cured of stupidity and short-sightedness. With sex in private, one can alway say "Shit! That was a mistake, and it's never happening again. " The worst thing that can happen is your school finding out, or your parents. However, once you've recorded it to be sold, you can't take it back, and it won't go away. it becomes "Damn, that was a mistake, and it's going to follow me around for the rest of my life.". There's the difference- sex in private is a mistake that can be forgotten, or at least left behind, whereas sex that is recorded is alway, always going to follow you around.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
3 points

Considering that most people who watch porn are adults, and sex with a 16 year old for most of them would be gross, no. Even 18 is really young when you start pushing 30. I see no reason for lowering it, as we already have an unhealthy obsession with too young, too skinny girls and this would only exacerbate it.

Also, I don't see any sex appeal in a 16 year old.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
1 point

if you dont want to look at 16 year olds naked then dont look at them!

problem solved.

let the guys who want to look at them look at them.

5 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
1 point

Didn't you say in your description that anything under 18 is considered child pornography? You could, based on this answer to Spooner argue the same for 14 year old girls or boys. It's child pornography and there must be a limit to what we'll put up with as a people. Sure, there are plenty of whack-o's that want to look at young people naked...those are the ones you read about that are getting arrested.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
xander(431) Disputed
0 points

What, and if you don't like rape don't get raped? REALLY? Or, if you don't like coercing children into sexual acts, don't do it? Where does this logic stop? It's irresponsible and kind of disgusting.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
jofcompsci(3) Disputed
1 point

You do realize that most porn is gross. If that were a reason to not make a type of porn there would be no porn. I also don't believe you on not seeing sex appeal in a 16 year old. Read Wikipedia physical attractiveness. Tests have show that is the prime age of physical attractiveness universally among all men including yourself.

2 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
1 point

Well, let's not fool ourselves (kuk specifically, no offense)

the fact of the matter is that a lot of girls are really sexy by age 16, even if one is not in some way demented,

unfortunately human attraction in and of itself has no moral filter.

Which is all the more reason it should be illegal until adulthood.

I am 100% for pornography. I think it's a beautiful thing as long as all parties are consenting and no one is being taken advantage of,

But I don't believe most 16 year old girls have the capacity to be "consenting" when there are other adults, specifically adult males, involved.

It would be too easy to sway them, and take advantage. I think that in many cases even if in the moment it were something the girl felt she wanted, a lot of the time that would only be the result of manipulation,

to be safe, I think 18 is a fair age to say in this regard that a woman should be capable of making her own decisions.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
2 points

16 is 2 years away from being 18!

18 year old girls get taken advantage of too!

5 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
xander(431) Disputed
1 point

Yes, they do.

And while we're talking about it, so could fifteen year olds... or thirteen year olds... or ten year olds...

That's a terrible argument, Anyone can be taken advantage of, and as far as I'm concerned, the porn age should probably be twenty-one. Having sex in private has serious repercussions. Having RECORDED sex has even more detrimental to your future. Having worked in the adult industry makes you extremely unattractive to future employers, and no sixteenyearold should make that decision.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
JPeterson(3) Disputed
2 points

"no one is being taken advantage of,"

You don't think that the girls are being taken advantage of by giving themselves away to a bunch of perverts for some cheap pleasure?

5 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16
iamdavidh(4848) Disputed
3 points

Try actually reading the arguement there genius. I realize it was all of like 8 sentences.

"as long as all parties are consenting and no one is being taken advantage of,"

is what I said...

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18

Ok lets just say the age of consent dictated the age you would have to be to be in porn. But to do that you would have to make it so porn was the property of the state or nation that it was made in. So as to keep it from going outside of its borders. Because almost every nation as their own age of consent. For example if you live in Canada then bring a porno with 16 year old girls/boys in it to America where in most states the age of consent can be 18 you could be jailed for being in possession of child pornography. So by law the porn of your nation should remain in your nation or you risk a jail sentence.

But of course then you have to ask yourself if that was to happen would you really be ok with the knowledge that in Japan 13 year old boys and girls would be legally allowed to perform in the porn industry?

2 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
1 point

I am a sixteen year old boy, and for the past year and a half (since I turned 15) I've been determined that when I graduate high school and turn eighteen, I will pack up, move to California, and star in gay porn. I love porn. I love that it's all about instinct and that it's different for everybody. I love beautiful, young, plastic bodies and I love old, dilapidated, worn out bodies. I love kink and I love fluff. I love hardcore, and I love softcore. I love that certain porn can make one person vomit, and get another person off. I love the entire culture of pornography, period.

I am so set on this goal of mine, in fact, that three months ago I got my first job JUST so I could start putting away money for my initial move.

Having said that, I am opposed to lowering the age for appearing in porn to 16. I am around hundreds of sixteen-year-olds each day, and I can tell you point blank that hardly any of them would think twice, or probably even once, before doing porn if they knew what kind of money they could get. They are complete idiots, barely knowing how to use their American-education-scarred brains. They would get taken advantage of in porn to the extreme, and then, because they're so ridiculously hormonal and emotionally charged, would probably kill themselves because of it. It makes me think of that whole 20/20 special with Belladonna and her depression and whatnot.

16-year-olds, for the most part, are not capable of making the decision to be in porn, because to make that decision you have to really understand porn. Most 18-year-olds as well, and for that matter 21-year-olds or even 30-year-olds are not equipped with the knowledge, understanding of, and true desire to be a part of the adult industry.

But restricting the age any higher than 18 would be stupid. When you're 18, you're an adult, and you should legally be allowed to fuck up your life in whatever way you see (or for that matter don't see) fit. You're on your own! Good luck. It's the same reason that prostitution and drugs should be legal, but those are separate issues, and I'm sure there are already plenty of debates for them.

Oh, and by the way, it's more than just girls who get taken advantage of in porn. Young, 18-year-old guys can get coerced into taking two dicks in the exact same way girls can. In porn, we're all vulnerable and on display, whether we have a penis, a vagina, neither, or both. Teenage girls aren't any more stupid than teenage boys, and teenage boys aren't immune to pain and guilt. So, for the record, it's PEOPLE that get taken advantage of in porn, not girls.

2 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18

I do not think that a 16 year old should be allowed to be in a porno. Young minds dont think!! When i was 16 i did shit i regret. Could you imagine doing this when you were 16 and then once you got older became a mom and looked back on it how embarrased you would be!!

2 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18

I'm actually surprised it's 18 and not 21! 16 years old is far too young for a teen to be involved in porn. Who would their audience be? Other 16 year olds or younger? Or perhaps men with a young man fetish? No, I think 18 is young enough for mass appeal or any appeal, for that matter.

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
2 points

Have you seen some of the 16-year-old girls nowadays? Some of them definitely pass off as 18, in fact very attractive 18-year-olds. ;)

5 years ago | Side: NO! the porn age should be 18
2 points

but why should 16 year old porn be ILLEGAL?

whats wrong with the 16 year old girls nowadays?

5 years ago | Side: Yes the porn age should be 16


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