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46
15
Yes No
Debate Score:61
Arguments:55
Total Votes:65
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Should we be allowed to use force against burglars in our own home?

If a burglar broke into your home, would you grab the nearest weapon and go for them or would you refrain from hitting them? In some places, it is considered as assault if you hit the burglar and you can actually get prosecuted yourself.

Yes

Side Score: 46
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No

Side Score: 15
5 points

If a person is in your home illegally, not knowing what their intentions are, and being unable to establish what they might be in the short amount of time before someone has to make a move, the logical conclusion is that they want to harm you. I claim it as self defense, you're protecting your property, and potentially yourself.

Side: Yes
2 points

The ability should be there. I do get concerned that some people go for the kill shot at the first sign simply to be able to kill legally, however.

Side: Yes
Harvard(666) Clarified
1 point

Why get concerned? X should not even Y an opportunity to succumb to such thinking and/or opportunity.

Side: Yes
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
2 points

True but it's still disappointing that this is the way some people think.

Side: Yes
2 points

If a burglar breaks into my home.... hell yeah I'm going to use the force against him, I'll stick a lightSaber up his ass!

Side: Yes

That would be entering the "dark side" on a whole another level.

Side: Yes
2 points

Absolutely 100% YES! If we were not allowed to defend ourselves on our own property in our own home, then why would our government have the right to protect our country on our land (or elsewhere for that matter). So, I would say you can use whatever force is needed to ensure the safety of yourself and your family.

Side: Yes

Yeah, dumbass should've never had the audacity to break into my home in the first place. He/she is a threat to me and my family. Your from the UK yes? If that's the case then this takes the situation to another level.

Side: Yes
2 points

I am from the UK, yes. There have been cases here where the home-owner has actually been prosecuted themselves for using force against a burglar. Stupid, right?

As for the question at hand, I believe that we SHOULD be allowed to use force against someone who has trespassed onto our property with the intention of stealing things. I am not just going to stand there and let them take my hard-earned possessions. Furthermore, the burglar could be armed themselves which in most cases is true. Therefore, naturally, you would want to defend yourself and your family.

Side: Yes
1 point

I can think of absolutely no legitimate reason why one should not be able to use force against someone who has trespassed on their property with intent of theft.

Side: Yes
ProLogos(2794) Disputed
1 point

Here's some reasons. Assaulting someone is against the law.

Killing someone is against the law.

Side: No
Jace(5222) Disputed
2 points

Many legal systems have self-defense exemptions specifically concerning home invasion which permit the use of force. Even where this not the case, asserting the status quo (what is) is not a legitimate argument in the context of a debate over what should be.

Side: Yes
Harvard(666) Clarified
1 point

Under certain conditions. Self-defense can justify a 'legal' assault, and a "Private Property; Trespassers Will Be Shot" sign within obvious sight of any and every possible--and reasonable--entrance to the property, can be a justifiable killing of one who violates this warning- and would rightfully be so considering that X knows not to do Y or Z can and/or will happen. But X does Y anyway then Z happens. It is justified by X already knowing what would or could happen by doing Y.

Side: Yes

Killing someone isn't against the law. Murder is against the law. There's a huge difference. Murder means the killing is "legally unjustified" and one way it can become fucking justified when a burglar breaks into one's home with a gun and starts stealing.

Side: No
1 point

If someone breaks into my house with the intent of theft and possibly muder since they know I'm in the house I will introduce them to my shotgun regardless of what this argument says .

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, they're trying to threaten us. And they're are tress passing are property.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes! They are threatening us and they are tresspassing across our property. Also they are like trying to take your stuff. They are also breaking the law. This is an obvious yes.

Side: Yes
1 point

Nah, I'd give them a good slap on the hand and then give them a cupcake on the way out.

Side: Yes

If someone is in my home + I have a gun + I see them + they are even a reasonable threat = I kill.

If (person != threat) & (guns==0) & (person==injured || person==dead):

ghostheadx.call(police);

return;

return;

Side: Yes
1 point

Absolutely! Everyone has a right to be safe and secure in their dwelling. Everyone should be allowed to protect that dwelling through the use of force. Their is absolutely zero reason that anyone should enter a house that they do not reside in unless they have been invited in. Your home is a safe place. If someone threatens the safety of it, their safety shall be jeopardized also. If every burglar knew that they would be shot, stabbed, or beaten every time that they entered a home that was not theirs, this would be a very big deterrent. Burglars prefer easy targets. That being said, Be a Hard Target!

Side: Yes

I think in this situation, a person should grab anything he can get his hands on to defend himself.

Side: Yes
1 point

They're still a person. You don't need to harm the burger unless they try to harm you.

Would you hit a dog with a blunt object just because it was passing through looking for food? No, you wouldn't. So why would you hurt the burgular.

Side: No
5 points

Because the dog is unaware that it is doing wrong. The burglar on the other hand does.

Side: Yes
ProLogos(2794) Disputed
1 point

How can you tell what an animal is or isn't aware of?

Side: No
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

Don't bother, trolls like to pick the less favorable side, and defend it with bull shit. You're literally wasting your time, because everything you say, will be brushed aside for another what-if or "you're wrong/an idiot".

Side: Yes
Atrag(5666) Clarified
1 point

ou don't need to harm the burger unless they try to harm you.

Don't panic everyone - he's just USAian. They think about them all the time ;)

Side: Yes
ProLogos(2794) Clarified
1 point

Hehe. I was hoping someone would notice that. <3

Side: Yes
MeiCH(34) Disputed
1 point

Are you kidding me? You just wrote " you don't need to harm the burger". You need to check over your writing. Burgers are going to get harmed in the process called eating. Duh

Side: Yes
ProLogos(2794) Disputed
1 point

NOT ALL BURGERS ARE MEANT FOR THE EATING.

Side: No

What if he is being robbed by the hamburglar?

(would he be prosecuted by Hamilton Burger and defended by Perry Mason?)

Side: Yes

What if a dog comes in and then a person comes in looking for their dog? Hmmm...

Side: No
1 point

If a a burglar enters your house and points a gun at your head, you will have to use force. If laws are passed against these, such crimes will start increasing since then they could be done without any hassle or opposition.

Side: No
Harvard(666) Disputed
1 point

If a burglar points a gun at your head, more than likely, there will not be an opportunity for 'force', which is why it is legal for you to 'stop' them from getting to such point.

Side: Yes

I agree unless the person somehow develops ungodly KM, Systema, JKD, BJJ, Ninjitsu skills its probably impossible.

Side: Yes