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Should we feel sorry for Narcissists?

A narcissist will put their needs ahead of everyone else but it is only because they feel so inadequate . You can always tell when you are around one because they will throw childish temper tantrums when they don’t get their way. They will throw out all kinds of insults in order to make themselves feel better.

The question is can they change this?  Is there something wrong with their makeup that prevents them from having caring and loving relationships?  

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Side Score: 5

Yes, but only in the same way we feel sorry for those with other self-destructive personality disorders. They should be institutionalized in a secure psychiatric clinic and treated for their mental illness with drugs and sessions of therapeutic counseling. Those whose narcissistic psychosis has reached a stage which represents a danger to the public should be incarcerated for the rest of their natural lives, and of course pitied for their incurable madness.

Side: Yes
3 points

Should we feel sorry for terrorists?

Narcissists are basically terrorist.

They'll terrorize you just to try and get what they want.

I've got a lot of experience with narcissists , which could be due to the fact that my temperament gravitates towards the temperaments that are prone to narcissism and I also have a narcissistic sibling.

They are likely to make you feel like you aren't worth shit because they are incapable of seeing and/or respecting the good things about people.

They are likely to resort to drastic measures to get "revenge" on someone, if that someone doesn't do what they ask.

Forget those assclowns.

It further pisses me off that people think that I'm a narcissist , and they don't realize that the prime reason for that is, they aren't really passionate about goal completion or as passionate as I am about it. So whenever I begin to speak, they just have nothing to add to it and pass it off as "bragging".

I think that real narcissists, are self centered and therefore don't care about other people's goals, but I love to see people excel and love to hear about the process which lead them to their achievements.

Real narcissists don't give a fuck about you. So fuck them too.

I have much more to add but I might start ranting too much...

Side: No
2 points

Sorry, this is pretty personal, but I spent 17 years in relationship with a narcissistic woman. We made little progress, never married or started a family. I stayed longer than I should have because I worried for what would happen to her if I left. Then in the end she cheated on me several times and turned really nasty. I got out of that, met a very good woman who would become my wife, and now have two beautiful kids and a life moving forward at good speed.

So, trust me, feeling sorry for narcissists doesn't help either you or them. Frankly I think it just enables them to become even more narcissistic. And at whatever point you withdraw from feeling sorry for them and being part of their life it isn't going to be gratitude or even sorrow at seeing you go, it's going to be anger and fear and the most ugly displays of self centeredness you can imagine.

Side: No
Artemis(7) Clarified
1 point

How much of her behavior do you think was in her control? I am not by any means suggesting you should cause yourself heartache by staying with them. I guess maybe I should have worded it differently. Do you think it is in their control? Do you think it's some type of brain or chemical defect?

Side: Yes
Grenache(6053) Clarified
1 point

The initial damage in her youth - which stunted her for life - was beyond her control. That damage from her parents is what made her insecure and disfunctional and self absorbed. However, she embraced and nurtured that narcissism for the rest of her life. She chose, either actively or passively, to do nothing to help her become a fully functional adult, or to preserve or build our relationship. And her affairs, despite being more about her insecurities and feeling good about strange men wanting her than it was dissatisfaction with me, were a deliberate guilty pleasure which she initially hid and was proud of keeping secret. It's hard to feel sorry for that. It's hard to say she couldn't help herself. In fact, there's a huge difference between "couldn't" help herself verses "wouldn't" help herself.

Side: Yes