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Fight isis Backout
Debate Score:30
Arguments:23
Total Votes:35
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Should we fight isis or back out

Should we fight isis or stay back and back out

Fight isis

Side Score: 20
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Backout

Side Score: 10
3 points

In case you didn't know, we don't have any choice but to fight, albeit half-heartedly and ineffectively at the moment. These Muslim murder gangs hold everything in the west with contempt and are committed to destroying our way of life including our Christian religion, our values and culture. They have thrown many offers of negotiation back in our face and have let it be known that they perceive such overtures as signs of weakness and a sign from Allah that they are winning the military and psychological war. They realize that they are in a commanding military position with the west's response being significantly restricted by the growing threat of the ''enemy within'', i. e., the Muslims residing in all the western democracies as recently demonstrated with the Paris and San Beradino atrocities, all courtesy of the dumb politicians, past and present. You will note the influence the Muslim fifth columnists have in affecting a nation's foreign policy when you consider Canada's withdrawal from the U.S, led coalition's bombing campaign against I.S.I.S. Despite the dreadful risk Muslims present to our democracies the western politicians, particularly America's Obama and Germany's Merkell, continue to defy logic and unbelievely swamp their respective countries with Muslims.

Side: Fight isis
2 points

BUT! We should support the Muslim countries and let THEM "take their country back". Enough Americans have died, enough families have suffered. There will be more but, we can at least MINIMIZE! I agree with what Obama is doing. People don't seem to realize that he largely follows the advice of the military, the CIA, the DOS, etc.! What he does is try to coordinate and dampen the inherent instinct of these groups to "blow the hell out of them"! During the first years of the Bush/Cheney administration I couldn't believe the number of Generals and Admirals, etc., that "retired"! Obviously because he wanted to bomb the hell out of anyone who disagreed with him. I believe he wanted to "show his father" what he SHOULD have done in Iraq, which is why we have this problem today! He was the poster boy for radical Muslim induction! We need to fight them, and make friends doing it!

Side: Fight isis
1 point

I agree that the standard American foreign policy of;- ''bomb the bastards'', needed some modification. I also agree that American led coalition troops should not be heavily involved in the biggest open air lunatic asylum in the world, i.e, the Middle East, but as we saw in that awful Vietnam war, once the Yanks leave the fighting up the the local military they're overrun by the crazed zealots.

Side: Fight isis
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

In that "awful Viet Nam war" there weren't a group of ethnically populated countries surrounding it that were worried about being taken over by a radical religious sect. In this case, there are people who MUST fight for their OWN protection, for their OWN views of Islam, which is what THIS President is trying to get them to do. The previous President signed an agreement that America would remove ALL troops by a certain date, was told if he did NOT, those troops could be imprisoned for killing ANY Iraqi! Some people seem to think WE have the rights to do anything we wish to other sovereign countries. We CAN'T

Side: Fight isis
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

One of "the Muslim countries" is Iran. They are against ISIS and they promote Islamic terrorism the same as ISIS does.

It's all about who is going to rule the world. The Muslims want to rule the world, claiming the firstborn rights of Abraham's children as their justification of hatred toward Jews. Obama is playing his own game trying to set himself in a place of power to be one of the rulers or the ruler after World War III which is coming soon....the armies of the world are making their alliances lining up exactly as the Bible foretold thousands of years ago; all of the armies of the world will join in battle against Israel and for domination of the world. The promises of God are through Israel, and the whole world will go against Israel thinking they can have the world their own way and deny God's rule over the world. Jesus Christ Himself will rule the world from Mt. Zion, Israel will not be eliminated, God will defend Israel.

It's not about Bush, it's not about Obama, it's not about the Muslims, it's all about Israel and God's promises through His chosen people; the Jews.

If America would turn back to God and live according to His law, ISLAM would be powerless to do America any harm. America is vulnerable because she is turned away from God and is going in many different directions of confusion. We are not going to win against Islam when we have turned our backs on God. Islam is fueled by demonic forces and God is allowing them to fester because America no longer fears God.

Side: Backout
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

If America would turn back to God and live according to His law, ISLAM would be powerless to do America any harm.

Bombs don't explode around Christians?

America is vulnerable because she is turned away from God and is going in many different directions of confusion.

No, America is vulnerable because it is possible to kill people.

Side: Fight isis
1 point

But let Assad and Putin do most of the work, spend wisely. ;)

Side: Fight isis
1 point

I don't want anyone to be fought. Instead, I think that reality ought to be distributed across the whole planet.

Side: Backout
2 points

I agree. If everyone lived reality then truefulness and tranquility ensues.

Side: Backout
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
2 points

Yes. After the Jihadists kill you, truthfulness and tranquility will increase. What planet do you live on?

Side: Fight isis
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

Well, that seems patently naive.

Side: Backout
daver(1771) Disputed
1 point

Exactly what reality are you planning to distribute. The one I can see is made up mostly of people who just want to live peacefully, interspersed with assholes, here and there. Do you claim that reality is not what I have described?

Side: Fight isis
Mariel33(456) Clarified
1 point

I believe that all life forms should be individually identified in public as "the Universe". And then if life forms aren't the universe, that all life forms should then be individually identified in public as "not the Universe". And then if all life forms can't be determined as either "the Universe" or "not the Universe", that all life forms should then be individually identified in public as "not capable of being determined as either "the Universe" or "not the Universe"".

Transcendence is to distribute reality. Everything I say to you about reality being distributed I can say to seven billion other people (including the actors and actresses of Halloween The Curse of Michael Myers, or Star Wars The Force Awakens) - I'm not meant to repeat myself seven billion times, so who am I therefore meant to address myself to?

Side: Fight isis