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Should we give libs the west coast and New York, and create our own country?
It would be wise, in my view, to break-up the nation into the states as mostly independent entities which relate to the country as a whole through the union of the flag, military, and generalized economic system, though with few federal oversights. That is, embrace a variation of Anti-Federalism.
Europe is a union of separate nations. However, I am suggesting a union of states, sub-nations if you will, all connected to the parent nation conglomerate. The benefit of this is in increasing the power of the nation as a whole relative to various smaller independent nations, safeguards against the type of balkanization that has occurred in Europe and elsewhere, greatly increases the strength of the Military/defense force from foreign threats (i.e. outside of North America), and maintains a much more robust economic world power. Additionally, of course, it allows the citizenry to choose the general type of lifestyle and legal structure they desire to live in, and have control over what is in their reach and no further (in principle)--rather than smaller groups influencing the governance of 330 million, many of which do not agree with the state of affairs at all; which, of course, is the current predicament.
I'm good with splitting the land in half and creating a Conservative, right wing nation. If they piss theirs away, we'll build a giant wall and put the military, turrets and drones on the border to keep them out.
The idea of a nation is to get a grouping of people who are on the same page to work and co-operate together in order to support a common vision of life. Now, the US population is strongly divided, not even close to on the same page--it would seem reasonable to consider orderly and respectful dissolution into separate such groups.
I used to reject the notion, but that was back when both sides agreed on the fundamentals. The left used to want a Southern barrier, didn't want illegals taking jobs from Americans, and supported free speech.
But in these times, where the left has moved into tyranny and lawlessness, I'm for splitting the land and putting a resolution into the Constitution that it is treason to even attempt to overturn inalienable rights like free speech and gun rights.
I'm not sure what solutions are even left to consider.
Proper/normal male behavior is now criminalized in daily life, in the USA. There is a huge societal game of "I'm not touching you", like ill-mannered children play, occurring. The decline has been accelerating rapidly, even in my lifetime I have noticed an extreme difference.
The goal is to take out the protective class, i.e. men, so that evil can have its way uncontested. To achieve these ends, the tactic at use has been psychological subversion, rather than the bludgeon, leading to legal subversion, over an extended period of time.
Frankly, action to re-seal Pandora's Box in America, or otherwise separate into what should come after to replace the nation (i.e. smaller nations of the kind previously discussed) must happen relatively soon before memory of the Way is lost to upcoming generations, born & raised in an inverted reality--one of the levels of Earthly Hell. (Much like the reality present in the popular short story Harrison Bergeron, or some other dystopic nightmare of a similar vein).
Actually, this lower post of yours makes the most sense (quote: ==============)!
If every state makes their own rules, unfettered by federal government, you WONT like living here. You'll have people moving to the states that have the "rules" THEY want to live by, and you'll have THOSE states arguing with the next one about what they should do to stop people from running back and forth undermining THEIR rules!
I lived in Maine before they became "civilized". ;-) They had a "Christian Minister" (Rev. Bubar), who hated booze. He would collect old ladies and whoever would agree with him, in busses and take them to the polls to vote every "progressive" bill down. New Hampshire built a Liquor store (several), on the Maine border and started cleaning up! Mainers flocked to them to buy cheaper booze, and especially on SUNDAY! You had to buy it in "State controlled" stores in Maine, at a premium price. Forget it on Sunday! They didn't serve wine or drinks in Maine restaurants, consequently, we had few, if any , good ones. Well, the good Rev had a brother who got into some trouble with the ladies, there was a scandal that cut into the rev's rep, also, and he lost face. Bring on the progressives! Grocery stores started selling wines and beer, Sunday sales came in, restaurants opened up (GOOD ones), and Maine started to grow. (Become civilized ;-)!
We would have situations like that all over the country with out Federal Regulations. We have it NOW in abortion rights, concealed carry, voting rights, etc., and there would be no way to eventually get them resolved. That was a problem in Europe before the EU. It became more "civilized" and cooperative after the "union". WE NEED a Federal Government or, we become a weak bunch of argumentive states! Better a few hash it out in Congress …. if we can ever get our Congress back! THAT would require getting the GOP back …. it's GONE! The party's being led by a "Rev. Bubar"! Time to get civilized, again!
If every state makes their own rules, unfettered by federal government, you WONT like living here. You'll have people moving to the states that have the "rules" THEY want to live by, and you'll have THOSE states arguing with the next one about what they should do to stop people from running back and forth undermining THEIR rules!
It seems you just conceded foreign culture(s) immigrating freely is inherently subversive and will necessarily destabilize the primary culture and group. Do you believe that stays constant across scaling--small to large?
Another voice for Putin! Please, move to Russia, you'll LOVE IT THERE!
We "libs", being "actual Patriots" and believing in a democratic government …. even though, currently, it's getting torn apart by false COM-patriots, wouldn't allow it because we really love America. It was tried once. We'll fight to keep it again! Anti-federalism is anti-Americanism. Call it what it IS!
Oh, so you're saying Trump "vetted" the Russians before he partied with them in the oval office?? He "vetted them" before he … um … "conversed" with them in Trump Tower? He "vetted" Kim, and still "fell in love" with him? He "vetted" MBS, so he KNOWS he didn't ("I don't know why he WOULD." ;-), kill an American citizen?? I agree, "Patriots protect their country from foreign adversaries," they DON'T "collude with them"! A traitor, by any other name, is STILL a traitor! This one is called "POTUS"! :-(
You can't think of one redeeming quality Right Wingers have?
I guess protecting the lives of innocent viable babies is worthless to your ilk!
One thing we agree on, I would love it if you inhuman Liberals move to your wonderful Socialist Europe, and leave America to our Constitution that guarantees life liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all innocent human lives.
Upstate New Yorker's have long ago been trying to separate from New York City. The vast majority of New Yorker's are not Liberal, but the many votes form New York City control every election.
If you look at the election map and see with your own eyes how many States are Red, it would show just how many millions of low end voters live in those populated Leftist areas.