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Should we give libs the west coast and New York, and create our own country?


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They'd need our tax dollars

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Should we give libs the west coast and New York, and create our own country?

It would be wise, in my view, to break-up the nation into the states as mostly independent entities which relate to the country as a whole through the union of the flag, military, and generalized economic system, though with few federal oversights. That is, embrace a variation of Anti-Federalism.

Side: Absolutely
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Are you talking about becoming an allied group as seperate nations?

Side: They'd need our tax dollars
xMathFanx(1755) Clarified
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@brontoraptor

Europe is a union of separate nations. However, I am suggesting a union of states, sub-nations if you will, all connected to the parent nation conglomerate. The benefit of this is in increasing the power of the nation as a whole relative to various smaller independent nations, safeguards against the type of balkanization that has occurred in Europe and elsewhere, greatly increases the strength of the Military/defense force from foreign threats (i.e. outside of North America), and maintains a much more robust economic world power. Additionally, of course, it allows the citizenry to choose the general type of lifestyle and legal structure they desire to live in, and have control over what is in their reach and no further (in principle)--rather than smaller groups influencing the governance of 330 million, many of which do not agree with the state of affairs at all; which, of course, is the current predicament.

Side: Absolutely
xMathFanx(1755) Clarified
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Side: Absolutely
AlofRI(2737) Clarified
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Another voice for Putin! Please, move to Russia, you'll LOVE IT THERE!

We "libs", being "actual Patriots" and believing in a democratic government …. even though, currently, it's getting torn apart by false COM-patriots, wouldn't allow it because we really love America. It was tried once. We'll fight to keep it again! Anti-federalism is anti-Americanism. Call it what it IS!

Side: Absolutely
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We "libs", being "actual Patriots"

Patriots protect their country from foreign adversaries. You import them and refuse to vet them.

Side: They'd need our tax dollars

This is why the Democrat Party wants to do away with electoral votes.

The Left understands how many millions of career welfare dependents flock to Liberal welfare friendly California and New York to mooch off tax payers.

These States are very high taxed and will collapse as tax payers leave their States. Where will the money come from as hard working tax payers leave?

Side: They'd need our tax dollars
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Should we give libs the west coast and New York, and create our own country?

Hello b:

Nahhh... Let's fight it out, winner take all.. You bring your AR-15 and I'll bring an M1 Abrams tank..

I can't think of ONE redeeming quality right wingers have.. I don't want 'em on the same continent as me..

Long live the great US of A.

excon

Side: They'd need our tax dollars
FromWithin(7467) Disputed
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You can't think of one redeeming quality Right Wingers have?

I guess protecting the lives of innocent viable babies is worthless to your ilk!

One thing we agree on, I would love it if you inhuman Liberals move to your wonderful Socialist Europe, and leave America to our Constitution that guarantees life liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all innocent human lives.

Side: Absolutely

Upstate New Yorker's have long ago been trying to separate from New York City. The vast majority of New Yorker's are not Liberal, but the many votes form New York City control every election.

If you look at the election map and see with your own eyes how many States are Red, it would show just how many millions of low end voters live in those populated Leftist areas.

Side: They'd need our tax dollars