CreateDebate


Debate Info

Debate Score:43
Arguments:33
Total Votes:56
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 Socialism gives a better quality of life. (31)

Debate Creator

DeathWolf666(367) pic



Socialism gives a better quality of life.

Add New Argument
2 points

You getting a job would lead to a better life. If someone won't take that step, they deserve shit.

How's it working out in Venezuela?

--------------------------------------

AlofRI(2796) Clarified
1 point

I've worked in Venezuela 4 times. It isn't "socialism" that's hurting Venezuela, it's authoritarianism! You know, Trump's favorite type of politics!? Democracy CAN'T exist under an authoritarian government, socialism (of a sort) CAN. Democratic Socialism , also, can NOT!

outlaw60(15499) Disputed
1 point

Well look here the CRAZY GRANDPAW speaks and it's DUMB ASS does the best it can do to defend a DICKTATOR !!!!!!! Now you FUCKING DUMMY that is amazing !!!!!!!!!!

HighFalutin(2850) Clarified
1 point

Excuses, excuses; how about it just doesn't work.

-------------------------------------------------------

outlaw60(15499) Disputed
1 point

Is the DUMMY saying there was no authoritarianism in Venezuela before Trump became President ???????????????

Did authoritarianism just happen in the last 2 years THERE in Venezuela you CONFUSED LEFTIST ???????????????

Please tell me about a socialist country that has lasted for more than 50 years without relying on the financial assistance of another Capitalist country.

Please tell me about a socialist country that has lasted for more than 50 years without collapsing its economy and falling into a state of war and mayhem while lashing - out - to make war on others to gain more land, money goods, and property.

For example, socialist Italy and Germany raged and waged a massive war in order to build their economy.

Holocaust victims), property and monies were seized and - The Socialist Switzerland assisted the Socialist Nazis in providing the Socialist Nazis with protected banks to retain the balances indefinitely.

Millions of artworks were been stolen and millions of dollars have been stolen by the Nazis and The Socialist Switzerland assisted the Socialist Nazis in keeping these holdings and amounts that exceed in the millions.

The Socialist Switzerland are still riding on the backs of the millions of dollars that they have refused to repay the Jewish people around the world that were robbed. - robbed - by other socialists.

Every time a case is taken to court and a decision is made - The Socialist Switzerland refuses to pay the victims descendants and manages to only to pay a tiny fraction of a percentage of the stolen amount.

"Nazi Germany's banker." - this is the glory of all Socialist economies today.

Many rich Socialist Nazis had passports made for them by the Socialist Vatican and Switzerland AS THE Socialist Nazis took their Socialist money and moved to other Socialist countries and helped to provide a market, business, and capital and business interests and sustainability for them . Stolen money.

Millions in Nazi gold was transfers to Switzerland.

There are still millions of dollars in Switzerland that are "dormant accounts" of dead Jews that are not alive to access their accounts.

How can You call this a socialist success story ?

it is true that Switzerland also took money from Jews who were fleeing Germany and other places and helped them as well obtain passports. Hitler threatened Switzerland and forced Switzerland to stop helping Jews.

But how is all of this wealth that was stolen goods - give a credit to socialism ?

Switzerland's Federal Government granted generous credits to Germany and Italy under the terms of the clearing agreements and offered them financial privileges. - Swiss art-dealers were involved in disreputable trade with stolen objects of art.

And while they still demand that others are to support them - down in South America. They cannot even support their own economy without Capitalist America sending them all millions of dollars a year - ripped out of the bank accounts of millions of hard-working Capitalist Americans.

Countries like Spain and France are neither socialist nor capitalist. They have a mixed economy. ... Today virtually every industrialized successful, productive country is a combination of socialism and capitalism.

What Country has lasted under a strictly Socialist Economy for over 40 to 50 years without relying on the financial aid of others and has not fallen into a state of total war, robbery and thievery. ?

Maybe I am wrong and there is a socialist economy out there that has lasted and is doing great - But have they taken in millions of immigrants and poor and needy people and given trillions of dollars to help other countries ? OR are they holding on to their money, taxes, and interests and only barely able to keep their head above the waters.

Please help me to understand how You have come to this conclusion.

Please keep in mind that many socialist countries are those who have had their economy rebuilt - and have had everything handed to them free. They are successful and they do not have to work very hard and develop or evolve anything to succeed and develop their capital - in a Capitalist type environment - that gave them the economy they were born into. Where will they be in 50 years - without relying on the aid and support of capitalism ?

1 point

Marx·ism

the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis for the theory and practice of communism.

Communism equals Socialism there Commie Troll !!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you that fucking ignorant ???????????

1 point

Is the Communist NOM making reference here to Venezuela ????? What a Dumb Shit you are !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 point

Hey Commie are you making some reference to Cuba here ????????????

1 point

The fact that the Russia’s destructions was much much greater under Stalin than while fighting Hitler, isn’t the least of the prevarications in this video. Perhaps the most important neglected detail is that, according to the researchers, “The study did not include the United States or other high-income capitalist countries in the comparisons because there were no equivalent socialist countries”.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-06-07/local/me-10010 1socialist-countries

The US was the world economic leader by 1900, despite being hounded by Britain (almost tied in 1900) for half a century in its infancy. The narrator only offers poor excuses for economic disadvantage in the country that killed 20 million of its own people just to get the ball rolling.

Dreadnought(99) Disputed
1 point

The fact that the Russia’s destructions was much much greater under Stalin

Were much greater, you semi-educated halfwit. Please keep your insane far right opinions to yourself until you at least learn to write and spell in coherent English.

isn’t the least of the prevarications in this video.

Please try to understand that the online thesaurus is for people who already understand the basics of English.

Perhaps the most important neglected detail is that, according to the researchers, “The study did not include the United States or other high-income capitalist countries in the comparisons because there were no equivalent socialist countries”.

Oh yeah, that's right.

Because the United States fucking destroyed them all.

The US was the world economic leader by 1900

And it wanted to stay that way, hence it attacked all the socialist countries it could find.

In actual fact, your assertion is so purposefully vague that it could be interpreted any one of a hundred different ways. If one person earned four hundred trillion dollars in 1900 (or any stupid figure like that) while the rest of the population ate out of dustbins, then your assertion would still be correct, so it means absolutely nothing. It is just another example of you showing apples while drivelling on about oranges.

It is no secret that there is MASSIVE wealth inequality in the United States, and there has been since at least the 1970s. Hence, what you are really arguing underneath all the deceitful language which accompanies your bullshit, is that capitalism is great because there are a few rich people who preside over hundreds of millions of poor people.

0 points

The narrator only offers poor excuses for economic disadvantage in the country that killed 20 million of its own people just to get the ball rolling.

You don't get it, Russia was a fucking shit hole before the USSR. Comparing them to the US would be bullshit because the US had a steady development. When you look at a third world country that improves under socialism and say it is shit because it's not as good as already developed nations that is bullshit. What you are ignoring is that socialism has taken multiple poor countries from shithole to much better.

outlaw60(15499) Disputed
1 point

Damn your dumb ass just cannot pay attention as to how Fucking Stupid you are !

Marx·ism

the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis for the theory and practice of communism.

You are a Commie you Fucking DipShit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigOats(1326) Disputed
1 point

You don't get it, Russia was a fucking shit hole before the USSR

You're a total retard if you think that has anything to do with reality. Russia was the №5 word economy. Prior to WW1, Russia was also №1 in economic growth. Of course, the war messed things up. But even during it worst years, there were no food shortages and nothing even remotely resembling Stalin's famine. And Russia was winning the war. If it hadn't been for that twerp Lenin and his band of fuckers - the war would have ended in 1917.

Amarel(4987) Disputed
0 points

Socialism can work fine for very very poor countries, so long as there is a sufficiently inclusive and honest government, sufficient market economy within (if limited), and wealthy market economies elsewhere from which to glean useful pricing/supply information.

How was the GDP of major capitalist countries after WWII? Britain would have been left out of your study, and Hitler bombed them to the Stone Age. Same with other wealthy capitalist nations necessarily left out of the study. Russia would have done much better if it hadn’t started out cannibalistic. Same with China, a country that is lifting swiftly out of poverty specifically because of the introduction of markets. Same with India.

1 point

Socialism gives a better quality of life.

Hello D:

If you're taker, socialism is good.. If you're a maker, socialism is bad.

excon

AlofRI(2796) Disputed
1 point

Aw, Jeez, I have to disagree with you this time, excon. We've been living in a mixture of democracy and socialism since Teddy R. (and especially since the OTHER "R"), and it's been GOOD! ESPECIALLY for the "makers". It puts a resistance on the "takers", keeps their hands out of the pockets of the "makers"!

I admit, it's lost a bit of its bite since Reagan supercharged capitalism and especially since the conservatives in the SCOTUS gave U.S. "Citizens United", but, THAT can be turned around …. someday (the sooner, the better)! Europe WAS doing well but those European "takers" don't like it, and, like Trump, they are firing up a "base" with the idea that THEY will make them rich if they "make" thing happen for THEM! NO "free stuff"!

NOTHING is free and WE, the REAL makers KNOW IT! Nearly everything is either free or easily affordable for the real "takers"! The uncontrolled capitalists that pay for the "special rules" that allow them to keep what they "take"! Socialism MUST be democratic, or it is (has been, several times), controlled by the takers, THEN it IS bad.

LevinTV(141) Disputed
1 point

Socialism MUST be democratic, or it is (has been, several times), controlled by the takers, THEN it IS bad.

https://www.brainyquote.com/photos_tr/en/v/vladimirlenin/136421/vladimirlenin1.jpg

outlaw60(15499) Disputed
1 point

Aw, Jeez, I have to disagree with you this time, excon. We've been living in a mixture of democracy and socialism since Teddy R. (and especially since the OTHER "R"), and it's been GOOD! ESPECIALLY for the "makers". It puts a resistance on the "takers", keeps their hands out of the pockets of the "makers"!

I admit, it's lost a bit of its bite since Reagan supercharged capitalism and especially since the conservatives in the SCOTUS gave U.S. "Citizens United", but, THAT can be turned around …. someday (the sooner, the better)! Europe WAS doing well but those European "takers" don't like it, and, like Trump, they are firing up a "base" with the idea that THEY will make them rich if they "make" thing happen for THEM! NO "free stuff"!

NOTHING is free and WE, the REAL makers KNOW IT! Nearly everything is either free or easily affordable for the real "takers"! The uncontrolled capitalists that pay for the "special rules" that allow them to keep what they "take"! Socialism MUST be democratic, or it is (has been, several times), controlled by the takers, THEN it IS bad.

The FUCKIN CONFUSED BABBLING IDIOT said what ???????????

outlaw60(15499) Disputed
1 point

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ 2018/12/04/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-trillion-mistake/?noredirect=on&

Here is bit more to prove Socialist are DUMB ASSES !!!!!!!!!!

But you would not know it you FUCKIN FOOL !!!!!!!!!!

LevinTV(141) Disputed
1 point

If you're taker, socialism is good.. If you're a maker, socialism is bad.

Excellent point. Too bad it was then raped by the village idiot.

Dreadnought(99) Disputed
1 point

If you're taker, socialism is good

A system rooted in equality which aims to smash economic hierarchy is good for takers?

Which planet do you actually fucking live on?

Just prior to President Obama's 2014 State of the Union Address, media reported that the top wealthiest 1% possess 40% of the nation's wealth; the bottom 80% own 7%; similarly, but later, the media reported, the "richest 1 percent in the United States now own more additional income than the bottom 90 percent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WealthinequalityintheUnitedStates

Yeah, we are so lucky and FREE to have this level of inequality which EVIL SOCIALISTS WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM US! Do not let EVIL SOCIALISTS TAKE AWAY OUR WEALTH INEQUALITY!!

You people are legit fucking insane.

0 points

If you're taker, socialism is good.. If you're a maker, socialism is bad.

That's the exact opposite of the truth. If you're an engineer or a worker socialism is good, if you're a businessman who profits from other people's work socialism is bad. You think you are a maker even though you have no technical skills and only profit from what other people produce and that's why you belong in a gulag.

1 point

If I were to choose one characteristic that indicates a good quality of life is life expectancy.

A country with a high life expectancy has great life quality.

Unfortunately, there are socialist counties with low life expectancy (Cuba) and capitalist countries with low life expectancy (US). So the economic system doesn’t seem to solely be an indicator of good quality of life.

Quality of life depends on a country’s social system. For example, good healthcare systems tend increase a country’s life expectancy.

1 point

Do you live in a socialist country? If you dont, then why not? I mean, if it's so great, why aren't you living there?