Society should shame irresponsibility for the good of all, rather than being so insecure.
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First, I strongly advocate for free speech, so you or society can say anything you want including shaming whomever you want to shame. Second, society's choices through history are far more shameful than the individuals you want to shame. It is society which institutionalized racism, massacred Native Americans, enslaved Blacks, ignored church molestations, and on and on. Society has its own shame to shoulder. 1
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AGAIN, you felt the need AS ALWAYS, to find fault with anyone who dares speak to moral values and irresponsibility. Why is it Progressives are so insecure and hate hearing anyone speaking to irresponsibility. I would never disagree with shaming those issues you described. Those issues ave been shamed non stop for decades yet here you are bringing up other issues so you can somehow find fault with what I said. Nonsense, I defended your right to say what you say, and then I picked it apart by putting it in perspective. Your absolute right/wrong approach always does more harm than good to society. It is that mindset which lead to many great injustices throughout history and your effort to trumpet for it now is just more of the same. Nonsense, I defended your right to say what you say, and then I picked it apart by putting it in perspective. Your absolute right/wrong approach always does more harm than good to society. It is that mindset which lead to many great injustices throughout history and your effort to trumpet for it now is just more of the same. Lena Dunham (Democrat) is afraid Mitch McConnell will somehow affect her bedroom activities if he becomes the Senate Majority Leader. “I vote because the number of backwards, out-of-touch, downright freaking unbelievably anti-women’s health politicians out there right now makes my blood boil.” “The crazy and depressing truth is that there are people running for office right now who could actually affect your life. PARTICULARLY your sex life. PARTICULARLY if you’re a woman.” According to the Democrat Lena Dunham she is not concerned with unsafe sex. 1
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Walk are you smoking? The Left never shames unsafe sex!!!!!!!!! When is the last time you heard anyone speak out on the shameful act of unsafe sex? They talk about sex ed. and how using birth control will prevent pregnancy. WHO DOESN'T KNOW THIS? PEOPLE DON'T CARE! THEY ARE IRRESPONSIBLE! These irresponsible behaviors should be shamed! THE LEFT NEVER SHAMES THE IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR! The Right gets judged by the Left everytime the Right does speak to irresponsibility. The Left never shames unsafe sex!!!!!!!!! You are out of your mind. This proves you have no idea what you are talking about. When is the last time you heard anyone speak out on the shameful act of unsafe sex? "Don't be a fool, wrap your tool" the left says it all the time. They talk about sex ed. and how using birth control will prevent pregnancy. WHO DOESN'T KNOW THIS? Who doesn't know that deserting your family makes you a bad person? You admit that they discuss the stuff you say they don't discuss. Shame on you. Haha. These irresponsible behaviors should be shamed! THE LEFT NEVER SHAMES THE IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR! You just said they did shame them. You can't even keep your story straight from one sentence to the next. The Right gets judged by the Left everytime the Right does speak to irresponsibility. Because you don't speak to irresponsibility. You just admitted that you don't speak to unsafe sex because you are stupid enough to think people already know everything. The right says that every problem is obvious do they never shame anything. The left says the "obvious" information over and over again even when the right tells them it is stupid to do so. I believe churches are growing up and do not consider many of the frivolous "sins" they used to rant about as actual "sins". Many of them were the sick notions of radical "Christians" trying to keep total control over their "flock". Some radicals continue to press this ridiculousness, and when nobody's looking, engage in the same "sins" (likely, because all they have to do is ask "forgiveness" and they are exonerated, still in the running for "sainthood")! Your rant is from the Brain Dead Democrat you are. Is a history lesson what you need ? 1st Amendment : Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Now do you hold opposition to the 1st Amendment ? 1
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You just clearly showed what my entire debate was about. People such as yourself have been conditioned to believe that speaking to moral values is ridiculous and radical and trying to keep control of something. You could not be more wrong and more brainwashed by the Left. I need to go no further than looking at our culture to know what I am saying is playing out before our very eyes. Progressives are blind to our broken families and swollen wefare roles. Their judgemental bigotry of our Christian heritage has their minds twisted with denial, anger and keep blindly repeating the the failed rhetoric of the Left. What will it take for you to open your eyes? COMPLETE COLLAPSE OF SOCIETY? Should we always shame divorce? Should we always shame those who sometimes drink alcohol? Should we always shame those who have a lot of sex with different people? I actually would seriously like an answer to these question please. I am still not clear about what are your criteria for shaming people... 1
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No, we should not shame those who have done things out of their control such as certain cases of divorce. There is nothing wrong with divorcing an abusive person. We all have a right to protect ourselves from harm. There is something wrong when a spouse chooses to have an affair, tear their family apart, abandon their children, etc. It's not the fault of the spouse being cheated on. There will always be extenuating circumstances whereby not all choices should be shamed. We as a people are smart enough to inderstand the difference. As with drinking alcohol, there will always being responsible drinking and irresponsible drinking. When a person chooses to get drunk (an it obviously is a choice), they can do many irresponsible things such as unsafe sex, drinking and driving, getting in bar room fights, spending too much of the family's money they need to pay bills, etc. etc. Yes, promiscuous lifestyles shoud be shamed because birth control is not 100% safe, and the ramifications of promiscuous sex leads to divorce, unwanted pregnancies, broken families, venerial diseases, etc. It's not rocket science when it comes to things that should be shamed. If it's possibly harmful to others such as pregnancy without love, abandoned chidren from promiscuous sex causing lifetimes on welfare roles, then it should be shamed. We as a society shamed irresponsibility 60 years ago until the Progressive Left came to power and declared an anything goes no fault culture is how things should be. They have been at war with old fashioned Christian values that bothered their consciences. They want to have their cake and eat it too without anyone saying a thing about it. Okay so you are aware that we cannot "generally" shame behaviors. You also understand that some behaviors (like drinking) can be responsible or irresponsible. If you understand that then you must understand my opinion on your "shaming irresponsibility" solution. I believe that it is very very delicate to shame behaviors or choices people make without knowing the circumstances in which they were made. We don't know the whole story. We do not know the reasons behind someone's behavior to be able to qualify it as responsible or irresponsible. For example, we should not ( I mean we can but it would be a misjudgment) say "Divorce leads to broken families and you should not do it" because who knows the state of the family when the parents were together. The only ones who knows best are the people who lived it. How about saying " Shame on you for having AIDS. It is very selfish and irresponsible of you"? Yes, some people who have AIDS git it from sharing needles or having unsafe sex. That is irresponsible and even then, I don't know what the led these people to having unsafe sex. Maybe it wasn't even their choice. Some people have AIDS because they were raped or cheated on by the spouse. Of course we can't shame them. But by saying "Shame on you for having AIDS. It is very selfish and irresponsible of you", it affects those unlucky people. Not only does it affect them, society turns their backs on them and pushes them away. I can see that shaming could discourage others (and not always) but shaming could also be psychologically damaging to people. I again insist that parents should shame misconduct or irresponsible behaviors. Parents actually have a better position to shame because they know their child. Society doesn't know. Shaming is delicate because of the fact that we do not have the whole story behind someone's actions. |
