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 Sodahead our beloved Site has sunk my friends .......or has it ??? (60)

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Sodahead our beloved Site has sunk my friends .......or has it ???

Without warning every member was shut out of SH and the Site as we were informed on the grapevine was no more 

 

So why have so many of us witnessed 

 

Our accounts being used *telling us we logged in recently* we are froze out 

New Members joining everyday in large numbers 

Questions being answered and showing up in our answered questions 

Why is there now a feature that asks "ARE YOU A ROBOT" when you wish to make a poll *we have all seen them but not on SH*

Why are our Green dots bouncing *they are still our accounts* We want them scrapped NOW!!! 

 

Basically I want your theories on this because I have never seen anything like it but maybe you have 

 

We had our many friends ripped away from us and we were unhappy , now after what we are witnessing we are angry and want answers 

 

 

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7 points

Sodahead more or less tanked their website for corporate greed and they're finding out the hard way that they screwed up. Their site metrics drop everyday. They're starting to realize that they took the user input out of Sodahead but Sodahead never really was anything more than user input. If any former SodaHeads swing by this site feel free to add me ~Cal

4 points

I agree, although the key issue is not corporate greed. SodaHead started with a big pile of venture capital and burned through it. Additional investors arrived with more cash and they burned through that too. When there was no more cash to be had (because their business model never turned a profit), the company was sold, in distress, to Prodege. SodaHead's assets were essentially the website and the polling engine behind it (Pollware).

Pollware might be a viable commercial product, but the SodaHead site could never pull its own weight. Problem is, by killing the site, they destroyed the best possible platform for demonstrating the scalability of their software. Further, the zero-notice shutdown has destroyed the goodwill that was built up with users over many years. Gotta wonder who buys software from a company that might not be around to support it.

For a long time, SodaHead has been accused of poor management practices. The shutdown removes all doubt. The whole thing will go kaput soon enough. I give it a month or two.

2 points

I think so. I never realized that they were such poor money managers.

I did like to ask questions that nobody would touch. Chickens

It is true I criticized maybe a little too much but there it is out in the public.

Scared cats would not offer a rebuttal.

3 points

Rebel,

You are so spot on about a community sites value being directly tied to the community of its members! The real problem with a community (here, there, or anywhere) is that there will be factions which want to fight with each other. I don't have a solution and while it adds to the traffic, it also adds to the reason why people leave. Any thoughts on how to remedy that would be helpful!

Rebel(7) Clarified
4 points

I administrate a small political forum and I can tell you first that political communties are not very active. It's the same bunch of people with the same usernames. I've literally been on your site for 5 minutes and have already found someone here I know. People come to these sites for the fight. They love to talk the talk about civility and socialble views but in reality...they want to argue and bicker. That's why Sodahead succeeded (of course being owned by a millionaire who designed Myspace and was one of the men at the forefront of the dot com bubble didn't hurt). SodaHead gave some rules, told it's moderators to silently enforce them, and let the factions go to work against each other. It gained very strong following as you can see - there's a lot of us on the web connecting and searching for each other like we're actual real life friends. I debated with many of the folks, even the ones I disagreed with, for over 5 years and had a understanding of many of them. The best advice I can give you is don't shun the drama but embrace it. Let people work things out on their own - but have a good eye against bullying and harrassment. There is a red line and it should be watched out for. You have a nice site otherwise. I think I'll stay and be on it for a while. It's the best alternative other than my forum (which is still young and inactive) since Sodahead died off.

Cuaroc(8338) Clarified
1 point

I wouldn't count one person as a faction.

flewk(1203) Clarified
1 point

Well, this is a debate website. The only people that actively seek out these sites are trolls and people who like to argue (in that order; although there might be no actual difference).

I don't think the fighting is an issue, I think it is the purpose of the site. I don't believe it is possible to have a civil/rational debate without an impartial moderator (probably a myth as well). I don't think that would be a feasible model for a website as it would make it rather slow and dull.

1 point

ying/yang

you can't have the traffic without the user base.

ppl: can't live with 'em... can't kill 'em

whaddyagonnado?

3 points

Sodahead would not exist without the Sodahead community. They show their appreciation by terminating participation of the ones who are responsible for their success. They deserve whatever misfortune results from this ill advised move.

2 points

I was really disappointed with the actions of SH owners. I am certain bad fortunes will befall them.

Now... I have read some of the comments out here. I joined SH after yahoo buzz was also tanked. My only purpose on either site was the political debate. Could not care less about the fluff polls.

One common theme applied to both sites; liberals claimed each site was a haven for conservatives. I laugh! Yahoo was in no way a conservative site. People, it's called the majority. Conservatives dominated because they out number liberals on these sites. Liberals infesting and controlling the media only give the illusion of them being the majority.

If this site becomes my new home for great debates, I hope I reconnect with my old SH friends

1 point

I remember you from sodahead and it's nice to see you again :)

Grabitz Disputed
1 point

I didn't like fef and his followers anyway so no love loss . Sodahead is a conservative site and they was starting to lose out to the young liberals and independents dominating SH . If you all remember fef was suppose to have sold SH then at the end he basically told us all screw you . The guy always was a dirt bag .

Rebel(7) Disputed
2 points

Sodahead certainly not was a conservative. Never was. It was always a balanced site. The problem is you people consider your oppisition enemies and considered those people to be in control of the site. When a conservative asked who controlled the site it was liberals. When a liberal asked who controlled the site...it was conservatives. When a libertarian asked who controlled the site it was whoever they we're feeling against that paticular week. Sodahead had two set standards and that was a lack of moderation and leadership. Who really controlled SodaHead? Swagbucks LLC and in doing so no one controlled Sodahead. As for young liberals that's kind of a misnomer as my generation is moving away from liberalism...that's what the last 8 yaers have done. It's not Sodahead that's literally a political trend in America right now. So you can hardly blame the site for that.

Either way this site is not the same. Tried it. Didn't like it. I'm still searching for somewhere to go. There's no sites like SodaHead. There's nothing interesting to me out there. I've lookever everywhere including some of the sites set up by people. It's just crappy all around.

Astac(242) Disputed
0 points

SH was dominated by left wingers, and they had their groups that targeted those on the right

5 points

Well, I feel sorry for all the people that were still using SH but screw Fef and the site! They banned me for life and never gave me an explanation as to why? I can only assume it was all to protect their precious little Asstrobutt.

2 points

I got Banned twice both short stints

The first time they sent me a link to the offending comment

The second time ......they didn't and to this day don't know

why I was deactivated for a 2nd time

I asked and asked .......so Bloody ignorant , just ignoring me

and you and so many others who were Banned for Life

Just ignorance , pure and simple

I hope you've caught up with some SH friends you lost Hellno , they're scattered

but they're around

2 points

A few years ago, they banned my account. I made a new one. They banned that one too. And another and another. No reason was given. I finally gave up. I returned a few months ago, and I wasn't banned, but now this. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their pubic hairs.

serenityLove(12) Clarified
4 points

Did you make enemies on there

I did by defending my friends , first they bait you into an argument , then they flag and report you and they keep doing this until you snap!!!

Now they have you off THEIR Site , if you come back

they see you coming , who you friend , who you click with , who you dislike

then they know you're back on Site and they get your ass off again and again and again

They have groups PRIVATE off SH organizing who is for the AXE and they're not very discreet

They are obsessed and quite sick , I COULDN'T BE ASKED TO SEEK REVENGE

I wouldn't waste my energy .......f*cking idiots

hahaha May you be infested by a thousand Camel Fleas and may your arms be too short to scratch ......Love that one

2 points

There was even a petition to bring you back but they ignored that too...

1 point

Wow! I never ever knew about that?

3 points

Interestingly enough, while I was not a SH member, I have recently seen some of what you are describing. I have no idea what they are up to as you would have thought that being turned off means just that the site stopped and done. Only leave the polling product sales info. But hey, who am I to complain. Their loss might be our gain. I welcome all SH members and look for their feedback.

Regards,

Andy

4 points

On the Night SH pulled the plug , that Site was dead

the equivalent of an online Ghost Town

I knew before I had seen the email , that SH was no more , this was no glitch , no maintenance but this was the end

I know People who have signed in using emails from SH Admin and our Personal Messages have been wiped .........mail 0

I have my idea's but it's proving them , they would have to be investigated but they are being paid $$$ by People for these votes but where are these votes being generated from

Why are all these accounts being made , when on the email

THIS SITE IS A VOTING SITE ONLY AND FROM THIS DAY CEASES TO BE AN OPINION SITE

???????????? Why has my friends page got a NEW opinion that wasn't there the night we were chatting and far from his chosen subject tbh

btw Thank you Andy for the warm welcome , I'm telling many of my friends to join this site , not just to come over and support me but I think it's right up their street

Cuaroc(8338) Clarified
1 point

So if a lot of SH members do join this site will that mean you'll then have no reason to keep a a previously banned person around?

addltd(5052) Clarified
1 point

Well, I do not understand why the three of you can't get along.

2 points

As far as I am concerned having used the site for 3 1/2 years and then being told I could not log in they can take it and wipe their behind.

2 points

I guess even websites can get suicidal, sometimes. I just wish they'd had the courtesy to give a few days notice so people could exchange contact information with their friends. But, they didn't, so screw them and the horse they rode in on.

1 point

Consider this a chance to re-evaluate your politics and ethics.

Take a good look around at the political landscape and start doing some critical thinking.

What makes sense, what doesn't... and how long has it not been making sense?

as the old line goes:

when you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!

1 point

It is very strange the way Sodahead came to a close. If you google phrases like "Sodehead closes" or "the end of Sodahead"

Nothing comes up in your search results. Non of the other media outlets have anything to say about it. Im not on facebook so maybe people are flipping out about Sodahead's New direction" over there.

I've noticed that the site have been kept in tact since it's. All our profiles are still there and the leader board remains too. With that, it gives me hope that they are not totally committed to doing away with the site entirely.

Maybe public out cry will turn things around. I just hope it wasn't anything like the FCC or someone like George Soros that had anything to do with it. Many Liberal Democrats and Obama loyalist were complaining about the things that were said on that site.

GenericName(3427) Clarified
2 points

Are you actually trying to claim that "George Soros" or the government shut it down because of politics?

If so, based on what evidence, and why has RedState, Drudge, FoxNation, etc not been shut down?

pvox(11) Clarified
1 point

I don't have any evidence. Im just hoping is all

I don't have any evidence. Im just hoping is all

I don't have any evidence. Im just hoping is all

serenityLove(12) Clarified
2 points

There is a burning effigy of Fef flying high over on FB , it's basically chaos , angry People venting , ex members who were deactivated ages ago joining in , many of my friends hate the groups that have been formed by Fef and ex SH members

Fef's group was made for SH's to find their friends but how anyone could be found among thousands of comments UNLESS THEY POST AN AVATAR OF THE ONE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR it's going to be a headache finding anybody

The group should of been just for posts looking for friends

This decision was made when the New Owners took over , they gradually dismantled our Site , they were driving the numbers down because long term members were so fed up

Staff were ignoring complaints

I'm damn!! sure they were sending in trouble makers because before they pulled the plug , there was a spate of the most vicious Minded Trolls and socks for months and SH were NOT deactivating them and were tolerating their behavior

This angered more and more People , they took our Search engine and nothing CORRESPONDED , they took our VIDS

They wanted OPINIONS but SH became a pit of Venom and I think they'd just had enough of the Bitching & whining and endless REPORTS

2 points

I have read that and there are a few things about Sodahead's "new Direction" article that just don't add up. How many times have we seen other sites or media outlets that mention twitter or link to facebook? Can you imagine if facebook did the same because other sites were using if for their benefit?

1 point

Is there any government entity that has rules about who sets up sites and how they have to treat their members? Someone should hold the owners of SH accountable for their behavior, especially the people whose accounts are still being used. I guess I was lucky to be deactivated a couple of days before they shut the rest of you all out.

skyfish(276) Disputed
2 points

i'm kind of grateful that SH has locked us all out while keeping our accounts there for all to see...

i have a rather LONG legacy of taking right wingers to task over their insanity and its nice to know my work will be preserved for prosperity.

you can go and see my handy work for yourself... my handle was lee using the same avatar.

1 point

I was on Sodahead for six years, thus almost from its inception forward. Although I would say that most of their members lean conservative, especially when it came to acknowledging Barack Obama, the format, concept, and tools that SH put at your disposal certainly made a difference and gave me a fun, valuable means to express, entertain, and educate. In fact, a recognize a fellow Sodaheader in this thread "Rebel" who posted a comment to my most recent SH post. I probably may have to agree that there isn't much on the web beyond SH when it comes to writing opinons and enjoying responses and feedback.

1 point

Agree that SH was a fun, and valuable avenue to express , entertain, and expand one's enlightenment of various factions and individuals value systems.

1 point

Survival of the fittest.

1 point

Yep! That's why I came here! :) I look forward to exploring this new site :)

0 points

There was a lot of abuse from the conservatives. .

Hellno(17618) Disputed
6 points

Come on Dana! Both sides do it and after Fef turned over control to a bunch of liberals I got banned with no explanation... something that you may have even had a part in, reporting me over and over for bullshit reasons.

Sitar(3393) Disputed
0 points

It is the conservatives who gave me the most trouble. They called me a terrorist because I am nice to Arabs.

0 points

This is not against you, I just don't like conservatives. I respect you for being a libertarian, even if I do disagree with you on some things. :)

Westsail(40) Disputed
6 points

Let's see, leafing through the liberal lexicon, I find the definition of "abuse" as "indicating disagreement with any part of the liberal ideology". Also in that dictionary I find the definition of "racist" as "One opposed to the policies of the Obama administration".

Sitar(3393) Disputed
2 points

Liberals have more compassion than conservatives. .

1 point

That is very true, the liberals mandate that every agrees with the positions of the left , if you do not agree with the liberal agenda of enslaving the people, you are called a racist

Rebel(7) Disputed
4 points

There was even more abuse by liberals though.....the trolls, sock accounts, repeat violators, most of the bullies, they we're all well accepted members of the left wing on that site.

0 points

What constitutes a "well accepted member" of a political wing?

Sitar(3393) Disputed
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pvox(11) Disputed
1 point

abuse? Just what would you call abuse on Sodahead?

I know that a lot of Liberals and Obama loyalist got very offended by what people were saying.

Astac(242) Disputed
1 point

That is not even close to being true. A bunch of you leftists came over from Newsvine and bought your racism and intolerance with you