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Yes, split it up No, keep it united
Debate Score:13
Arguments:54
Total Votes:14
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Split America into 5 sub-countries!

so most people by now know that donald j. trump, aka douchebag von buttface sr., has won the election .many people are upset and jumping off of buildings, ive heard .but many people would be equally upset if hillary, aka crooked lucifer, were to win .what is the solution ?

the problem is that people have very different opinions of what is good, and they dont change .in most cases, there is no real compromise !either abortion is legal ,or not .either weapons are unrestrticted, or not .either trade should be free, or not .either homosexuality should be legal, or not .either we should go to war, or not .either drugs should be allowed, or not . either the rich should pay excess taxes , or not .

what if people didnt have to compromise, and always got what they want ?

here is my proposal .split the united states into 5 sub countries .not like in the civil war - we would all be americans and all 1 country, but give people choice of how to live . (ignore constitutional issues for now - we will fix lator)

sub country 1: the control group, the status quo. america as it would otherwise exist .dems and libs and independants, gridlock, everything .this is in the physical middle of the country .

sub country 2 (and numbers dont mean anything, not like higher or lower number is better): liberals .leaders are elected from people like bernie sanders .

sub country 3: libertarians .leaders are elected from people like darryl perry.

sub country 4: conservatives .leaders are elected from people like ted cruz .

sub country 5: communists .leaders are elected from people like Mimi Soltysik .

sub countries go around the circle so greatly opposing people have no border and do not see each other!

but there is still debate and discussion and we present a unified front to the world !

thank you .

Yes, split it up

Side Score: 5
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No, keep it united

Side Score: 8
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Yes, split the country in five ways, but not as proposed here.......I suggest

1) first split all illegal aliens away from the general population, then escort them to their home country's borders

2) Second, split all "Black Lives Matter" idiots away from the general population and put them in jail where they really matter and are given three hots an a cot.

3)Round up all rioters and put them in jail with the "Black Lives Matter" idiots.

4) Try every single flag burner for treason, and also try for treason anybody in the crowd who cheers them on.

5) Last but not least, put the Clinton's and their Clinton Foundation book keepers in prison on multiple charges including treason, extortion, murder, adultery, obstruction of justice, and so on and so on.......probably several life terms for each of them and they can be happy with all the Black Lives Matter, rioters, flag burners while they become pen pals with their deported illegal alien friends.........and throw all abortion clinics in there with them, and every other foul mouthed pervert

Side: Yes, split it up

1) why do you care about illegal aliens ?

2) why do you think black people should be killed by police for no reason ?

3) if someone is causing damage then they go to jail .if they are protesting peacefully then no .

4) flag burning is 1st amendment right !

5) tldr

Side: Yes, split it up
WhatIsDaAuck(273) Clarified
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we should split up the country to get you out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes, split it up
NowASaint(1388) Clarified
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Flag burning is an act of treason, you're high on dope or way too much coffee or something if you think I said anything like "cops should kill blacks for no reason",

assembling peacefully is a right, not making a ruckus and blocking traffic and causing problems....put the punks all in jail.

Side: Yes, split it up
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Side: Yes, split it up
WhatIsDaAuck(273) Clarified
1 point

what does that mean????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Side: Yes, split it up
NowASaint(1388) Clarified
1 point

It's a post I deleted.....you can't delete posts, you can only edit them. In editing, you can remove all text, then you have to replace it with something......that is the only way to wipe out a post as far as I know.

Side: Yes, split it up
1 point

Split it up so that group 1 can dominate even more than they already do by pitting one against the other over and over.

Side: Yes, split it up
WhatIsDaAuck(273) Clarified
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what is group 1 ?????????????????????????????????????????

Side: Yes, split it up
1 point

The problem is not that "people have a different understanding of what is good and what is bad". Most people have an correct inherent understanding of good and evil. The problem is that most people have been routinely manipulated by the media, which has become efiicient at painting black as white and proving that good is bad. How about you split CNN into 5 different companies instead?

Side: No, keep it united

"The problem is not that "people have a different understanding of what is good and what is bad". Most people have an correct inherent understanding of good and evil."

then please tell me, what is the correct stance on abortion ?

not sure that splitting CNN into 5 companies will help .we already have fox news and msnbc .

Side: No, keep it united
BigOats(1326) Clarified
1 point

Sorry for my choice of words, I thought you were not being serious and just trolling against the elected President. I got it wrong.

Anyway, what I meant was that for the last 15 years or so the MSM has been doing a lot to divide the population and alienate the different groups towards each other. It has been outright lying on many subjects, and pushing the toxic agendas of neo-liberalism (which is not the same as true liberalism). Identity politics promoted by the MSM are divisive in nature. Creation of virtual reality stimulation of world affairs, based on lies and distortion, alienates those who seek the truth from those who believe in the news.

Trump is not a very nice person, but the media has been spreading outright LIES about him, deliberately misquoting his statements. Hillary Clinton is responsible for a lot of death and destruction in the world, but the media has been brushing this off as "Putin's propaganda"(which it is not). So, there are two completely different images of Trump, and two completely different images of HRC, both considered to be "true" by people in two opposing camps: those who have taken time to verify the information, and those just believing the media. Those truths are in conflict, and people are in conflict because of this.

The media's toxic activity needs to be exposed and confronted, if America is to remain united.

Side: Yes, split it up
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@bigoats Stop loosing your shit. The division in this country is pretty much bound to happen, with the black lives matter protests, banning of muslims and president not liking the Mexicans. It will take a very strong and logical mind to stop the people from fighting each other. We have to come back to humanity, otherwise we all go to shit, some of us earlier than others.

Side: No, keep it united
BigOats(1326) Disputed
1 point

Stop loosing your shit. - is that a slogan from Hillary's campaign?LOL

The division in this country is pretty much bound to happen, with the black lives matter protests, banning of muslims and president not liking the Mexicans.

1. Trump has stated that his economic policy will include creating real job opportunities for the black community. If that is achieved, there will no longer be a need for the "black lives mater" movement. Because, once the social situation in these communities improves, crime rates will drop.

2. Trump never said anything about "banning Muslims". He spoke of restricting access to USA for immigrants from dangerous Muslim countries which are currently in state of turmoil.

3. Trump never said anything about "not liking Mexicans". He spoke about ILLEGAL immigrants form Mexico, a lot of whom are directly involved in organised crime.

What you wrote only proves my point that the MSM has been deliberetly distorting the truth, and many of you in the "democratic" camp were eager to swallow it. So, split CNN into 5 different companies, and deport the rest of the corrupt MSM to Saudi Arabia where they belong.

Side: No, keep it united