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 State atheism, Secularism with religious freedom, or Church rule? You decide. (24)

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State atheism, Secularism with religious freedom, or Church rule? You decide.

State atheism

Anyone professing a religious belief shall be held to be in treason of the State. All religious symbols will be outlawed and religious instutions dismantled.

 

Secularism with religious freedom

Religion will not be permitted to influence the body politic of the nation and no law shall be passed nor enforced which favors religion. Religious institutions will be free to establish themselves and to actively recruit followers and to conduct rites of worship as they see fit so long as said rites do not undully impact the State.

 

Church rule

This nation shall be rules by the law of the New/Old Testament, the Torah, or the Qur'an. God's law shall prevail and only one religion will serve as the voice for all.

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3 points

I think Secularism with Religious Freedom including the freedom not to be discriminated against for being Atheist/Agnostic or not having a religion etc. I don't think religion has a place in politics it causes far too many problems when it has that kind of power but I do believe people should be allowed to believe and worship or not as the case maybe without judgement or discrimination.

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Amen bro. .

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Secularism with religious freedom (I prefer to say freedom of belief), because everyone has the right to freedom of belief.

Secularism with religious freedom

does not work because religious groups will demand more and more "privileges" for their rituals, rules...

Also they will try to enforce their mythology as a part of general education.

Not possible with Islam at all.

Taqwacore(668) Disputed
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Not possible with Islam at all.

Oh really? Know something about Islam, do you?

TheAshman(2299) Disputed
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From what I have gleaned from conversation he used to live with some Muslims who were unfortunately a "bit dodgy" now he basis all his views on Islam on them. I'm sure he can and will "enlighten" you with his "knowledge" of religion better than I can though!!

Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
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What about needs to isolate them self from from societies they immigrate in. Creating ghettos, refusing legal system, demanding sharia. Forcing others to follow or leave that area.... this is how it works in UK, Ireland, France, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Denmark...

Church rule --in Europe also known as the Dark Age now very common in Middle East and Africa under rule of Islam does not seems to work at all, resp. societies under rule of religions progress backwards.

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I agree, "Church" rule (irrespective of which religion) doesn't work. Human rights seem to go out the window. Scientific progress, however, that's tricky. While European theocracy led to a technological Dark Ages, Middle Eastern and Turkish/Ottoman theocracy lead to a very real technological Golden Age.

Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
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Turkish/Ottoman theocracy lead to a very real technological Golden Age.

I assume that you are talking about the transnational period? didn't that ended about 600 years ago?

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I like what we have currently in the U.S its secularism with religious freedom however if a law is popular enough its implemented so long as it doesn't interfere with our rights (thos listed in the bill of rights) and would never be turned down because it originated from a popular religon or not.

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Church rule! No, not really. Secularism with religious freedom sounds pretty good to me. It has pretty obvious benefits.

I say we go with what we have, seperation of church and state. All religious views and almost "anit-religious" views are kept out of government. Well, as much as we can...

State Atheism. Majority of religions are just cults anyways (such as the Catholic church).

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State atheism:

I think that it's time to say B grade bronze age mythology good bye.

Taqwacore(668) Disputed
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So a "Final Solution" along the lines of Stalinism or Pol Pots executions should be instituted? Nice.

Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
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Religions in Europe are dying off naturally with the societies development.