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Steel cannot melt.

it cant

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but science

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2 points

Sound like you chaps need to brush up on your science.

Popular Mechanics devoted an entire issue on debunking you wacky insider conspiracy wankers. I suggest you read the issue and educate yourselves. All their claims and proofs were supported by experts in the fields of metallurgy and structural engineering.

Cheers.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

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You guys know, steel can melt. But, tower seven collapsed just like it was rigged to collapse. Firefighters near by even reported hearing booms going down each floor.

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I guess God must preform all steel himself then, because it wouldn't be possible for humans to smelt steel into the shapes we know and use every day.

Which would mean God personally created torture tools and dildos.

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Steel certainly can melt but it doesn't HAVE to to lose its strength. It starts to lose its strength at a much lower temperature and will become soft at about 538C.

https://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint 01.html

"There has been one misrepresentation that has come from that. Many sites refer to the difference in the melting point of steel and the burning temperature of jet fuel as proof that the World Trade Center could not have fallen from the aircraft fires. What those authors fail to note is that while steel melts at around 1,370°C (2500°F) it begins to lose its strength at a much lower temperature. The steel structure of the World Trade Center would not have to melt in order for the buildings to lose their structural integrity. Steel can be soft at 538°C (1,000°F) well below the burning temperature of jet fuel."

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The stupid thing isn't even that jet fuel doesn't reach the temperatures required to melt steel.

The stupid thing is that everybody watched the fuel tanks explode on live TV when the second plane hit. When something explodes it releases its energy instantly. That's what causes the explosion in the first place.

Look, forget about the steel and the jet fuel. None of that matters. It's a question of very basic Newtonian mechanics. The only way those buildings could have gone down as quickly, symmetrically and vertically as they did is if there was no resistance to gravity in them.

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The stupid thing isn't even that jet fuel doesn't reach the temperatures required to melt steel.

So you are assuming that

1)There was a theoretical bomb.

2)The bomb wasn't placed there by the same jihadist group responsible for the hijackings.

3)That if there was a bomb, it wasn't put on the plane by said jihadists.

4)That you cannot melt steel, which would put metal casting facilities out of business...... so you don't always like what science tells you...

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BambiBabbles(43) Disputed
1 point

Candles go down the exact same way. No human help is needed.

Supporting Evidence: Candle melting down time lapse (youtu.be)
Side: it cant
BambiBabbles(43) Disputed
1 point

the stupid thing isn't even that jet fuel doesn't reach the temperatures required to melt steel

But there were chemicals in cabinets all over the building.

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NumberOne(445) Disputed
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But there were chemicals in cabinets all over the building.

And don't forget there were lots of pens around too. When the ink explodes in those bad boys the power is like a gamma radiation burst. Just pulverises everything like a sledgehammer.

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outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

Number 2 if you don't believe steel cannot melt then you are a bigger fool then i thought !

http://www.brookwelding.co.uk/

You better get in touch with this Dreaded corporation in the UK and immediately let them know steel cannot melt.

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